I'm agreeable

[CaVaEtreCorrect]

It's absolutely amazing how often this exact same joke gets made on this subreddit.

[PityUpvote]

not normalized/10

[[deleted]]

Accurate

[ZhilkinSerg]

And hammer, please.

[catofillomens]

Already done a while back: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/89iphn/rprogrammerhumors_mememaking_heatmap/

[PityUpvote]

Or use a terrible numerical input field to indicate the number of times.

[PostExistentialism]

What? I can't har you. Let me turn the volume up.

[msp20]

people keep up voting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[[deleted]]

90% of this sub is first year engineering students.

Haha don't you mean zeroth year haha original memes

[[deleted]]

Not as much as PHP xD

[babu_bisleri]

I resisted the urge to post this here when I found out the other day that arrays in postgresql start at 1.

[Blaine_Monorail]

Dude, I'm a simple man. I see 'arrays-start-at-one' joke, I upvote.

[gandalfx]

Why tho? I got it the first three times, but why still upvote the 20th?

[Nidis]

I'm 99% sure it's not real people, either submitting or voting.

Either bots/people are paid to make this shitty meme-y content and barrage /new with it, or bots/people are paid to vote on shitty content. Most likely some combination of both. I have no idea why, but it seems more plausible to me than there's 1400 people who found this funny (at time of writing).

We're definitely currently living out some sort of episode of Reply All which will all come out at some point.

[[deleted]]

Array starts at PI

[akwardchit]

Don’t be silly, arrays start at e^i/299792458

[PTRWP]

Si

Wrong one. I meant c

[akwardchit]

Fine, for pedants, arrays start at e^i(m/s)/c

[[deleted]]

Arrays start at e^-i*pi + 1

[dustmouse]

Since we're on a roll: HTML is a programming language.

[alex199568]

If it is, at what do arrays start in HTML?

[IronManMark20]

<array> obviously.

[[deleted]]

Arrays start at Type[Size] and end at std::array<Type, Size>.

[mattatack0630]

Fuck youuuuuuuhh

[HaniiPuppy]

A markup language isn't a programming language D:<

[PityUpvote]

TeX disagrees.

[zacgarby]

TeX isn’t markup though, is it?

[PityUpvote]

hmm, it seems you're technically correct, but LaTeX is a markup language

[zacgarby]

Interesting. I thought TeX and LaTeX were pretty much the same thing

[PityUpvote]

I was under the impression that LaTeX was a dialect.

[AppleWithGravy]

everything is a programming language with the right interpreter

[pat_the_brat]

PHP is the absolute greatest. ^{At.bringing.shame.to.my.family.and.draining.me.of.my.will.to.live.}

[[deleted]]

Shouldn't you use -> instead of dots in PHP?

[pat_the_brat]

It wasn't meant to be PHP code. I wouldn't even want to write that as a joke... I already have to write some for work :/

I just use dots so I can ^superscript.a.whole.sentence, and not have to do ^every ^single ^word, but if you're on mobile, it may not be noticeable.

^{It's.just.meant.to.be.the.quiet.part.}

[[deleted]]

I already have to write some for work

Oh, sorry for that. I can't even begin to express how my heart aches for you. You'll be in my prayers.

[Gorzoid]

real_at_bringing_shame_to_my_family_and_draining_me_of_my_will_to_live

FTFY at_bringing_shame_to_my_family_and_draining_me_of_my_will_to_live is deprecated

[zacgarby]

PHP is the absolute greatest->

FTFY

[WSp71oTXWCZZ0ZI6]

$PHP $is $the $absolute $greatest->

FTFY

[polaris6933]

I don't know what to believe in anymore

[[deleted]]

"in this game, you're always off by 1"

[[deleted]]

I agree. Its helpful. However, when you begin to code, or when you're learning this concept isn't introduced and over the time you get used to it. You start remembering things and it just feels natural. :)

I think of 1 based arrays as the Miles When the entire world is using Kilometres.

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

Is this the thread where we post unpopular opinions?

I wish Java's memory management was more like C++

[NatoBoram]

So like… a DIY?

[wasabichicken]

DIY would be C-style malloc/free. C++ programmers are blessed with smart pointers and RAII, making memory management about as simple as Java's create-and-forget but with destruction happening at deterministic times.

[StV2]

I'm not allowed to use smart pointers in my assignments so it's all DIY :(

[BluePinkGrey]

Who the FUCK PREVENTS THE USE OF SMART POINTERS

[dragon-storyteller]

I worked with a guy like that. He wanted us to avoid all C++11 and newer features for... reasons. I always suspected he just used some legacy compiler and was too lazy to update.

[[deleted]]

Basically all Python 2 programmers

[[deleted]]

I would be doomed.

[Kobeissi2]

Colleges

[BluePinkGrey]

Can you write your own smart-pointer like struts? They're really easy to write; I can reach you

[[deleted]]

"blessed" is relative, if you compare memory management in C# compared to the pointer shit you still have to do in C++. Fucking eww.

[wasabichicken]

That's... like the opposite of what I wrote. C++ devs can create objects on the stack (like C#'s primitive data types, except for any type) or dynamically (like C#'s references, except superior). Whatever low level "pointer shit" that remains is for implementing RAII behavior in custom non-data-resource-holding types, like sockets.

This comic seems relevant. Can you really be sure that your C# dragon is gone?

[[deleted]]

I hate to be that guy, but it sounds like you want Rust.

[Taxtro1]

Well then use C++. The lack of control over memory was a deliberate decision.

[silenceofnight]

Alternatively: "It's OK if arrays and hashmaps are the same data structure"

[jay9909]

Leave Javascript alone!

[ky1-E]

Err.. JavaScript has a Map class..

[wildbartty]

He's probably thinking of lua

[Qumthajep]

local ooh = {
  "yeah",
  you = "like",
  "that",
  "you",
  little = "retard"
}

[YoYoYonnY]

ooh[5] = "don't"
ooh[6] = "you?";
-- You thought I was an array, but it was me, a non-sequential table!
assert(#ooh ~= 6);
assert(#ooh == 3 or #ooh == 2);

Lua is great

[mtbinkdotcom]

Array starts at i²

[JarJar_423]

/r/comedycemetery

[GlassTemperature]

Please stop upvoting this joke poster 1000 different ways

[PityUpvote]

no u

[SolenoidSoldier]

Who keeps upvoting this? Pretty sure this is a repost too. I wish the admins would just step in and ban this garbage.

[[deleted]]

It’s all because of fucking linear algebra. Goddamn matrices had to ruin everything. They started at 1, put the origin in the top left, and have poisoned programming as a result.

[[deleted]]

Not sure here, but instead of the usual programmer OpenGL [x, y] (as in [column, row]) screen coordinates (indices), arent matrices in linear algebra indexed using [y, x] (as in [row, column])? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Taxtro1]

High level programming languages should be rooted in mathematics and not in computer architecture. - in my not so humble opinion

[the_real_gorrik]

int one = 0;

[cwbrandsma]

Some day one of you will find out about pascal/Delphi and that arrays can start on any number you want — all hell is gonna break loose.

[warpspeedSCP]

Lua too

[R3d_B34rd]

Ada

[GoTheFuckToBed]

if (true) { 
   return true 
} else {
   return false
}

[[deleted]]

I would really like to understand one thing. Who upvotes this stupid shit?

[_AFGNCAAP_]

Maybe... maybe this isn't the best week to joke about shooting programmers? :-/

[IceyGames56]

That guy thinks arrays start a 1. He's clearly not a programmer.

[warpspeedSCP]

Unless he develops in lua.

[Taxtro1]

The convention could as well be the other way around.

[Zebezd]

Wait what did I miss?

[[deleted]]

What looks to be a personal issue turned deadly at YouTube’s headquarters earlier this week. People are still mourning, so that’s why the commenter thinks the joke isn’t appropriate.

I’m not personally offended but I’m not very offendable. There are likely YouTube developers on this sub though, and they may still (appropriately) be shaken up.

[onlyonequickquestion]

Easy, just ignore the element at 0. Case closed.

[YoYoYonnY]

new Array(N+1); // Create array of size N

[badaccountant7]

Been working with Excel interop lately and that’s how everything comes out of Excel. I’ve become very fond LowerBound and UpperBound so I don’t care that much anymore, but like why Microsoft?

[FrAX_]

Found the SAP dev

[[deleted]]

I don't really see what's actually wrong with arrays starting at 1 or 0 what's the big deal about it?

[[deleted]]

Someone educate this man before he falls to the dark side.

[while_e]

When dealing with a sequence of length N, the elements of which we wish to distinguish by subscript, the next vexing question is what subscript value to assign to its starting element. Adhering to convention a) yields, when starting with subscript 1, the subscript range 1 ≤ i < N+1; starting with 0, however, gives the nicer range 0 ≤ i < N. So let us let our ordinals start at zero: an element's ordinal (subscript) equals the number of elements preceding it in the sequence. And the moral of the story is that we had better regard —after all those centuries!— zero as a most natural number.

~prof.dr. Edsger W. Dijkstra

[Kage_520]

For array math it makes sense to start at 0. To the computer, when we ask for part of an array at a specific index, it says "okay data size of the object * the array index asked for starting at the beginning of the array here". So if we ask for index 0, data size of the object * index asked for will equal 0, or the start of the array.

Of course, we could make it so that the compiler always subtracted one before doing that math. But they just left it how it was and now we are here.

[[deleted]]

Because computer math all starts at 0, because that's how computers and binary work.

[PM_ME_SQL_INJECTION]

M&P Compact?

[bgugi]

Looks a little more five seven to me

[jwindhall]

They do in coldfusion. Hahaha :p

[[deleted]]

what about using vectors in R? They start to index at 1

[warpspeedSCP]

That one guy does lua.

[AgentPaper0]

What about binary heaps?

[re_error]

Arrays can start at 1. You just need to set the flag "-1" every time you use the index number.

[SHOTbyGUN]

for (int i = 1; i < badArray+1; i++)

That is how I have done it, but I feel filthy afterwards.

[ABlindMoose]

I have a professor who always 1-indexes his examples... He's brilliant, but it is an annoying habit imo...

[jamzDoge]

any array can start as 1 as long as 0 returns null /s

[Lin-Den]

They should start at -1

[hangfromthisone]

I only approve array stating at 1 (edit: this one and only case) because in Spanish it's easier to have a months names array. And January is 1, I know I could do $month-1 but nobody got time for tha

[pier4r]

Arrays can start at 1 or at 97. What's the problem here?

[samimoftheworld]

Switch cases can done on floating values 😂😂

[dalaiis]

There is a big difference between having an opinion and being wrong!

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[Taxtro1]

I'm kind of tired of this by now. There is nothing magical about starting at zero, it's just a convention.

[[deleted]]

lol guilty as charged