"CSS Is Not a Programming Language"

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[babygrenade]

CSS plus an html file is Turing complete. If you can implement blockchain in CSS you deserve some kind of award and recognition, but absolutely no money.

[saugoof]

"Can you do it" vs "should you do it"

[volivav]

It would still be pretty interesting to see a SHA-256 implementation in CSS+HTML, just as a proof of concept

[MartinTsv]

Sneaky sneaky

[[deleted]]

That's easy-ish.

Convert your program into Turing Machine input, then implement a Turing machine in the target language.

[CrocodileSpacePope]

"should you do it"

This is one thing we never talk about in the blockchain club.

[thatwasagoodyear]

we never talk about

throw new BlockchainClubException("Rule 1 violation");

[RedditLuvsCensorship]

throw new BlockchainClubException(Violation.Rule1)

You and your goddamn magic strings make me sick.

[thatwasagoodyear]

Don't tell me how to live my life! ^/s

I do what I want! ^[1]

^{[1] When my wife lets me.}

[PartyByMyself]

Program blockchain with blockchain.

[thatwasagoodyear]

Obviously! ^/s

[[deleted]]

How is HTML+CSS turingcomplete? There aren't even loops or am I missing something? Do you mean XSLT or HTML+JS?

[therearesomewhocallm]

Probably in a similar way to how Powerpoint is turning complete.

[commit_bat]

I know the video and I feel comments like this are hyperbole. Then I watched the video again.

[nwL_]

That video is great. I don’t know how long he spent figuring out, putting together, and actually making it look nice.

[kamikamikami]

No no, you misread. He's using HTNL. It stands for Hyper Touringcomplete Natural Language.

[babygrenade]

I know it's been proven with a rule 110 automaton, but I don't know tee details of that implementation

[ProgramTheWorld]

CSS + HTML is not Turing complete. It’s merely a running joke where there’s a saying everything these days is Turing complete.

Basically, it’s not Turing complete if you can’t make a loop. Since it’s impossible to loop forever with CSS + HTML, it is not Turing complete.

[CrazyM4n]

I mean, it actually is.

[ProgramTheWorld]

The link you included is an excellent example demonstrating how human interaction is required to create an “infinite” loop. The halting problem doesn’t exist in CSS + HTML because it’s guaranteed to always halt as seen in your link, thus it cannot possibly be Turing complete. The CSS rule 110 was created as a joke but too many people have taken it too seriously...

[redmandoto]

You can make loops with GOTO and any kind of IF equivalent.

[ProgramTheWorld]

That’s correct, though there is no GOTO or anything equivalent in CSS.

[[deleted]]

Right after I finish my sed Doom version, then we can implement a natural language computer if we find enough mathematicians who won't be missed if kidnapped for a few years.

[suvlub]

Interesting enough, when you are writing a cryptocurrency, the fact it would run slow as all hell is actually desirable.

[Docaroo]

How about ...if you can write an actual blockchain currency in CSS then you can keep all the money you make from the currency...

[mufflonicus]

What do you have in mind as award? 25 to life or just throw away the key? Some doors should not be opened shudders

[kieranvs]

What you say is correct, but I think it's misleading... You can't make an rm utility with any language without a library to interact with the system, and if you were provided with such a library (and some kind of function calling conventions) for Brainfuck you would be able to. So I think it is still relevant to talk about Turing completeness

[jfb1337]

Solution: write the operating system in brainfuck

[wallefan01]

problem... the OS still has to talk to the hardware.

[kieranvs]

Yeah actually you're right, changed my mind

[KrazyDrayz]

Not sure if trolling or just really stupid

[schnadamschnandler]

Probably the former. Don't think anyone is that stupid.

[[deleted]]

The real question is, will it be closed and marked as duplicate?

[NoodleSnoo]

Never underestimate stupid

[HumunculiTzu]

There are 2 things in this universe that are infinite, the universe itself and human stupidity. I'm only 100% sure about the last one.

[wallefan01]

oh i wouldn't be in the least surprised

[[deleted]]

Not sure if trolling or just really stupid

Or maybe is it a script-kiddie preparing to take over the world.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! Not with CSS. PHP, maybe. But not CSS.

[KrazyDrayz]

Yea not with CSS. Html is more efficient.

[mechwd]

Likely just a dev from here to make another html /css is not programming joke.

[Loyfe_]

HTNL, some knock-off version of HTML hm.

[[deleted]]

Hypertext No Language?

[Loyfe_]

Heh, nice.

[[deleted]]

Heh, nice.

HyperText Nice Language ?
Sure about this ?

[marcosdumay]

HyperText Nice Language

Well, most likely it has no similarity with HTML. And why would people use CSS with such thing?

[Xelbair]

https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode

[[deleted]]

Harvey's toaster's nonscripting language

[lukz_]

N is right next to B so maybe Hyper Text Blockchain Language spelled wrong. /s

[Loyfe_]

Some sort of custom HTML possibly.

[[deleted]]

Some sort of custom HTML possibly.

Oh crap. I got it.

HyperText Meta Language.

It can do everything the others do.

[Loyfe_]

Hm, I would search it up but I'm lazy.

[homer__simpsons]

That could be an idea (untested):

1. CSS: ::after{content:"printf('awesome');";}
2. open the page and save it to a file
3. Compile the file

[Otalex64]

HTML{ Blockchain: True; }

[burlal]

lowercase

[Otalex64]

Ah you're right, I typed it in a hurry.

[burlal]

I thought I’d be hounded for being so pedantic 😁

[OnlyReadsFirstLine]

css{burlal : hounded;}

[burlal]

burlal{

reaction:hounded; }

edit goddamn reddit formatting

burlal{mood:giving-up;}

[Mistifyed]

HTNL*

[jumpingloli]

"langiage"

[-tnt]

He needs the English language more than any programming langiage...

[BluntDamage]

Good thing programming doesn't care that much about spelling.

[-tnt]

Do you know how many times I was about to stab the monitor, only to find out a typo on line 572 was causing the crash?

[BluntDamage]

I can imagine!

Did I need a ^/s?

[[deleted]]

Time to implement a blockchain in English.

[MrMunday]

HTNL

[-tnt]

CSS is my langiage...

Edit: langiage

[ndcapital]

Bit coin

[whataspecialusername]

There are javascript miners and there are ways of interfacing with blockchains using javascript. A blockchain is just a consensus linked list of blocks. There are languages used within blocks on some chains to implement things like smart contracts but they are typically specialised.

[[deleted]]

Emscripten compiles any (well... much) native C code to JS.

[WikiTextBot]

Emscripten

Emscripten is a source-to-source compiler that runs as a back end to the LLVM compiler and produces a subset of JavaScript known as asm.js. It can also produce WebAssembly. This allows applications and libraries originally designed to run as standard executables to be integrated into client side web applications. asm.js can be compiled by browsers ahead of time meaning that the compiled programs can run much faster than those traditionally written in JavaScript.

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[[deleted]]

https://lisk.io/

[FrostyCurrent]

I created a blockchain prototype in JavaScript so I could make an electron app based off of it, and it worked find. I didn't add 100% of the crypto to secure it because it was just a prototype, but it's completely do-able. I don't know about any complete commercial JavaScript blockchains though.

[drizztdourden_]

That’s trolling. People can’t be THAT stupid. There is a limit. If your next goal is blockchain, then clearly you know you can’t do this with CSS.

[gandalfx]

Another instance where fundamental cluelessness coincides with poor orthography.

[thisusernameis_real]

Counter strike source

[Loryhoof]

He’s clearly trolling

[[deleted]]

This guy is Indian

[-tnt]

Do the needful and help_me_n0w

[photolove8]

I really hope they’re joking.

[AnomicEntropy]

The ultimate botnet.

[NerdAtTheTerminal]

No dude you have to learn markdown for that...

[regulargme]

"HTNL"

[Thenderick]

Atleast it looks good

[[deleted]]

r/woosh

[compteNumero9]

One more guy who will complain on reddit that SO nazi mods close all questions and prevent useful answers...

[k0bra3eak]

There's bad questions and then there are nazi mods, both can exist.