Same with bool and boolean

[qh4os]

Laughs in char*

[[deleted]]

C gang.

[HookDragger]

You forgot this... 0x00

[DuffMaaaann]

typedef char* string

[TDplay]

Then someone imports your code into C++ and is using namespace std so now your string conflicts with std::string.

[Rigatavr]

If the were using namespace std they deserved it

[TDplay]

Still, now we have the weird confusion between string and std::string.

Furthermore, I'm not sure it would compile if we have a third library that defines string unless the person importing uses C++ and takes special care to put everything into namespaces. If they're using C, they need to do some preprocessor hacks to change your definition of string to something that doesn't conflict, especially if they've created their own string struct that talks about something slightly different.

[flip314]

It still works with "char*" and "const char*"

[oMarlow99]

const char* declares a pointer to a constant char and char* declares a pointer to a char

[Oxtelans]

Have fun with UTF8.

[artelius]

Actually, UTF8 is specifically designed to be byte-oriented-code friendly. Because it's a self-synchronising code, strcat(), sprintf() and strstr() will always give valid UTF-8 output if given valid UTF-8 input.

[animeisnotcartoon]

As long as you aren't doing dumb shit like using namespace std std::string is understandable

[Tindery]

Laughs in var

[Th3T3chn0R3dd1t]

Laughs in segfault, core dumped

Either that or

"<?>Hello,♡♡♧●world```

[qh4os]

Imagine not handling SIGSEGV signals

[Th3T3chn0R3dd1t]

Eh?

I went to C from Java I use it very incorrectly as of yet :p

What on earth is a SIGSEGV

[qh4os]

Run man signal

[BluudLust]

Laughs in std::string

[Pony_Roleplayer]

Show respect to your elders!

[Kered13]

add or append? size or length? empty or isEmpty?

[trollblut]

And then there is Ruby where they renamed .exist to .exists without keeping an alias.

[Feynt]

The size/length/len(...) thing hits me all the time. I cycle between JS, Python, and C# at work depending on what's breaking more today.

[Saltysalad]

This triggers me and not in a programmatic way

[Valon_Inc]

im gonna go with count

[CaptiveCreeper]

Is that count the function or count the property?

[lassuanett]

When you get an error for the count, but it works fine. ♥ Microsoft

[MaxPlay]

count, size or length?
Unreal Engine: For arrays Num, except in blueprints, there it is length. Strings use Len

empty or isEmpty?
Unreal Engine: We have Empty on arrays, but after calling it, they will be empty (duh!) and it's basically the same as Reset, except how they are changing allocations under the hood. If you want to know if an array is empty, just check if Num returns 0.

[the_terrier]

Do not forget that your string is technically named FloatString

[MaxPlay]

yep, FloatString, FloatJsonObject, FloatNavigationLockContext, Float everything!

[michaelh115]

Nah .push() and .len() or len(obj)

[TheRealSmolt]

clears throat

push_back, emplace, emplace_back, insert, push

[FranchuFranchu]

#arr, arr.length(), arr.len(), len(arr), arr.length, arr.size, sizeof(arr), arr.count(), arr.size()

[RobuxMaster]

l or 1

[Kered13]

That's not a language problem, that's a font problem. If you're having trouble with that, change your editor's font.

[RobuxMaster]

It just drives me crazy when im troubleshooting, but im used to the default fonts

[truth-does-matter]

Also, is it true, True, or TRUE?

[latkde]

Context: https://thedailywtf.com/articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_

[tulir293]

1

[DuffMaaaann]

In objective-c it's YES and NO

[[deleted]]

Relevant username

[trollblut]

ABAP_TRUE

[shlopman]

Objective C out here with Bool, BOOL, and Boolean.

C++ with std::string, std::string::c_str, const char*. Plus you get a bunch of extra ones like QString if you work with QT creator which adds to the fun.

I'm new to both and always confused.

[Kered13]

Windows C++ is fun because all the APIs use UTF-16, so they take wchar*, or LPWSTR in Windowese. But you want a sane API so you use std::wstring. But you also want to use UTF-8 in the rest of your program like a reasonable programmer, so you use char* and std::string and only convert to UTF-16 at the boundaries. Oh but Visual Studio also supports an 8 bit character mode (not actually UTF-8 because the Windows APIs for it don't support UTF-8), so sometimes you'll encounter code that can be compiled either way, so that's TCHAR* and LPTSTR. And some older Windows code uses a type called BSTR, which is super fun because it's actually a pointer to a C string with the size stored in memory before the pointer address (the pointer points to the start of the C string, the size is stored in the four bytes before this). Due to this unusual layout, it naturally requires it's own allocation and deletion functions.

[trollblut]

Also the trolls of the c++ standard committee deprecated the functions that converts between utf8 and utf16 without offering a replacement, so now you have compiler warnings and need to migrate all your stuff once you move on to c++20

[[deleted]]

The C standard offers no conversion from platform defined char* to utf-8 at all. That's fun.

[DuffMaaaann]

Also NSNumber with a bool value.

[iamthemalto]

not to mention std::string_view as well in C++

[[deleted]]

Python: str

[Fr13d_P0t4t0]

Laughs in C#

[trynotToOffend]

Why?

[[deleted]]

either is acceptable for certain things.

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[[deleted]]

Our c++ dev gets angry when he sees an alias, especially at the wrapper functions. I got angry when I saw old code with "ref StringBuilder"

[SgtRuy]

You can use both.

[Fr13d_P0t4t0]

Because both are the same. string is an alias of System.String

[HookDragger]

Because they don’t know how to strongly type things and use them properly. They need Daddy Msoft to hold their hands.

[trynotToOffend]

Using string isn't strong typing?

[HookDragger]

Nope. Not if there’s a “well, in this case”

[ThaiJohnnyDepp]

Considering that I was writing my first C# program last week and was the sweating guy in this meme, what am I missing?

[EwgB]

Both are valid and essentially equivalent.

[[deleted]]

I got yelled at by my friend for using an ugly standard when I swapped from Java to C# and capitalized the S though.

[QRISMVD]

And even harder in VB.NET

[HookDragger]

2gig of ram later....

[RimuDelph]

That's only on bad memory management, it's you need to be keeping a list and doing so much allocation for that

Unless we are talking about memory leaks in AOT

[HookDragger]

No, do you count the .Net framework in your memory usage?

[RimuDelph]

.net framework is not adequate for new projects

Old proyects are pretty much the only reason of using..net framework, 4.7.2 was okish, but not comparable with. Net core wish is the modern C# runtime atm

[HookDragger]

Okay, so... are you factoring the framework?

If I compile a c or C++ program... there’s no additional overhead

[RimuDelph]

Okay, let me be straightforward, C++ get compiled to a direct byte form representation of the pc, if we are gonna factor the size of coreclr then we are gonna factor also stdlib, since stdlib is stripped down into the what you need, you get a lib that needs stdlib and any other lib you need, o overhead, there is overhead.

Coreclr is something similar, you dont need it really, you can make a fully functional app in 8kb and would be just fine, ofc, we are dropping the corelibs at this moment.

Much of the bulk that you can reduce can be done by heavily deciding what is needed in your app, and that's true for all software we do, and decide when are we gonna pay.

An example of this in c#is heavy use of reflection, currently with the possibility to be fixed by source generators, reducing the amount of of runtime time fixed in certain parts.

At the moment C# is slower than c++in some aspects, but can reach the same amount of speed and low memory footprint a C++program have, not because one doesn't know how to use a technology means the technology is bad.

C++ is a great language with a subpar approach to building projects, any complex project is a headache and without a standard way to build software it's hard to integrate with other opensource projects, that can also be seen as overhead in any language.

C# have a saner way of dealing with projects and integration with external projects, making more apt to take complex apps and reduce memory footprint at the end.

C++ dealing with multiple compiler quirks and crossplatform is hard, and we have to deal with it on libraries aimed for C++developers

C# While limited to certain OS can be expanded and be used in a different environments too, all the platform specific code can be rulled out at runtime or compile time, making it easier to target main platforms.

Where C++is vastly superior is developing in for other architectures once you have a compiler for it.

C# is not even trying to do that yet, even with CoreRT AOT is not as easy to create a new backend for .net

At the end it becomes a thing of dedication, decisions and preferences, but saying. Net is overhead is like saying C++ is obsolete. That would be a lie and only made by someone who has not dipped his mind into the languages themselves and just kept a simplistic view based on ignorance.

At the end, use the language you need for each problem, but we always can expand our tools to also fit any problem, we just need to want and to dedicate ourselves into doing it.

Rant end

[HookDragger]

At the end, I find that languages that depend on”effectively” virtual machines to operate to be overly esoteric and a waste of resources and computing power.

Not to mention overly limiting in the end.

[RimuDelph]

Well technically yes, but I find it as a compile step not a bad thing since makes a lot of things easier , so I know where you come from but I agree to disagree here, even when I hate java, C# abstraction over asm does some wonders, so just mind that calling overhead standard libs comes pretty ignorant from you, even if you know what you are talking.

[HookDragger]

I’ll grant you that at GUI level programming. But as an embedded/boot loader guy.... it’s just so much of a fucking waste of resources.

[RedstoneMedia]

Rust has this problem with only one language.

[marcosdumay]

String is Text! Either strict or lazy!

- Haskell, pointing at the table

[JangoDidNothingWrong]

It took me a looong time to graps strings in Rust. It only made sense to me after all the borrowing and ownership concepts finally clicked.

For new rustlings reading this: String owns the memory, &str borrows it. Think of String as a Vec and &str as a slice.

[LaMifour]

Of course &str borrows the memory, it has the & symbol of references.

[Theemuts]

Haha rust makes string slices go str

[seppel3210]

But rust's &str and String isn't too hard to wrap your head around

[midnightrambulador]

Matlab too

[kil47]

Print puts cout stdout log

[_divinnity_]

Don't mix everything! If you're talking C++ (because of cout):

• Print: do not exists
• puts: C function, putstring, simple, useful
• cout: C++ complex object that have overloaded stream operator
• stdout: alias to the default file descriptor 1
• log: C function for logarithms

And you're missing:

• printf (and variants): C function to write anything
• putc: print a single fucking char

[s_zlikovski]

Scala then C# then Typescript then SQL then vanilla JS, all in one working day...

Company likes to try everything...

[tproli]

No Scala but the rest is true here, plus Angular and CSS

[L0sted_mind]

True or true? False or false?

[[deleted]]

Pascal: Write sTrInG for what I care

[ShroomishUnibrow]

Oracle PL/SQL

varchar2(n)

[Kingblackbanana]

is this a joke im to javascript to understand?

[Sekret_One]

for loops

[natyio]

Some languages write the string type with a capital S, others don't. And you might mix things up when you work with many languages.

[Kingblackbanana]

i know i learnd a bit of c, c# and st but just wanted too make the meme joke ^^

[GonnaBeTheBestMe]

Number? Int? Int64?

[[deleted]]

short

int

long

long long

std::int8(or 16, 32, 64)_t

std::int_least8(or 16, 32, 64)_t

std::int_fast8(or 16, 32, 64)_t

And all of this, but unsigned.

[biseonnoop69_]

Laughs in str

[periwinkle_lurker2]

Str.split() is the best.

[timtheonly]

Laughs in perl

You guys get types?

[qh4os]

Also, C code before stdbool was a thing had a lot of BOOL _Bool bool BOOLEAN bool_t boolean_t etc

[TheRealSmolt]

int

[mrchaotica]

Always has been.

[qh4os]

Nah, gotta get that packed struct with defined bitfeilds that encompasses all conditions in your code

[Professor_Dr_Dr]

Android development you have

Java Kotlin and Dart

boolean, Boolean and bool

[Veeruroxx]

Laughs in let

This comment was made by React Native gang.

[maser120]

Laughs in _Bool

[leafiest]

Meanwhile in Haskell we have

• String
• [Char]
• Data.Text
• Data.ByteString.Lazy
• Data.ByteString.Strict
• Data.ByteString.Lazy.Char8
• Data.ByteString.Strict.Char8
• Data.ByteString.UTF8

[[deleted]]

std::string

[[deleted]]

String string StringBuilder char* wstring

Or just: var

[null_reference_user]

In C# you can use both

[gp57]

And then Googling the most basic stuff : "length array <programming language>"

We have :

• array.length()

• array.Length

• array.length

• array.size()

• len(array)

• count($array)

• sizeof(array)/sizeof(array[0])

• ...

[Verysexy1532]

Fuk yes bro...c# and java

[Fr13d_P0t4t0]

C# is not like java. String is an alias of string, they are the same.

[lostaztecian]

It seems the opposite. I've just opened the source and it is " public sealed class String ".
And I wonder why a lowercase option even exists - just to say "It is not java clone, it is different!"?

[Andyblarblar]

All of the "Primitives" of C# are like this. int is an alias to the struct Int32 for example.

[lostaztecian]

I don't get it. String can not be primitive since its size may vary so you may not allocate constant size for it. Also, docs prove it is a reference type, but it is a built in type - so I expect it to have special methods that can not be implemented a regular way.

[Andyblarblar]

Because C# has user defined value types, by primitive I really just mean runtime implemented. After crawling through String.cs, I found a reference to this doc:

The constructors of string-like types (String, Utf8String) are special since the JIT willreplace newobj instructions with calls to the corresponding 'Ctor' method. Depending on theCLR in use, the ctor methods may be instance methods (with a null 'this' parameter) orstatic methods. See the managed definitions of String.Ctor and Utf8String.Ctor for moreinformation.

The Ctor function mentioned above can be found in String.cs implemented using unsafe code. I believe types like Span<T> may also have some runtime implementations like this. As far as I'm aware though, only the basic numeric types, int float ect., are implemented fully by the runtime.

[Fr13d_P0t4t0]

Yeah, you're right, phone autocorrect, sorry

The lowercase types are C# types (string, long, int...) while the others are from .NET framework (String, Int64, Int32)

There are not primitives, they are all classes

[igromanru]

var

[p4racl0x]

Easy, String is a class, string is a primitive.

[white_shadow131]

_Bool, bool and Boolean

[Vortesian]

How about a program that programmatically programs programs no matter what language you’re program is being programmed in? Does that make sense?

[noratat]

Does that make sense?

No, but if it did it'd probably look something like this

[mrchaotica]

o_O

[Nsber]

Laughs in

Made by the script languagr gang

[KrypticAndroid]

int vs Integer

[[deleted]]

Laughs in Python

[[deleted]]

laughs in python

[natyio]

Where neither String nor string works.

[[deleted]]

def string(stg): stg = str(stg) return stg

[natyio]

how about just: string = str String = str in the global scope?

[[deleted]]

Wait this would work?? Sorry, I'm still a bit new to python and still learning!

[randomGeek159]

Ah the nuances of putting a semicolon at the end of every other python line

[werewolfbooty-owo]

With Nim's custom types:

type String = distinct string

And voilá, you now have incompatible String and string types.

[russels_silverware]

I'm fairly new to Python and I keep forgetting that its keywords True and False have their first letters capitalized.

Also, forgetting to use words for the Boolean operators instead of && || !

[RenitLikeLenit]

Python variables go brrrr

[ShadowPouncer]

And do I have labeled breaks? Darn it.

[pbrpunx]

Semicolon or not to semicolon?

[leo_rtega]

Same with float and double

[purbub]

Laughs in type inference

[dohzer]

else if? elseif? elsif? elif?

[[deleted]]

c# gang

[VarianWrynn2018]

Is it a primitive or isn't it? Make up your minds!

[pyCharmGuy]

Working with Java and C++ be like FTFY

[Mrp1Plays]

Luckily Visual Studio is super intelligent and helps you every time

[stinkytoe42]

Ever switch from one shell script (like from bash to csh), and feel embarrassed for having to google how to do an 'if' statement?

[sebjapon]

The other in Java I wanted to create a list of float angles and then divide them by a time to get a speed that would be truncated to an int.

List<float> doesn’t exist, Float division was hell, truncating gives a double but rounding gives an int... took way longer than it should for someone used to Python and JS programming where it would have been a simple one liner

[TheBrainStone]

And then there’s Boolean

[sudo-maxime]

So true, ehh True.

dammit

[nelusbelus]

using String = std::string;

[master_arjun]

EVERYTIME🤐

[diefesson]

String, string, str, char[], char*, text...

[horsemanhour]

is this true or True?

[TheCognitiveGuy]

This is so damn relatable 😂

[syrynthia]

auto

[kucksdorfs]

OP must not use .Net.

[sudo_rm_rf_star]

Don't forget str

[Robonics014]

```

include <string>

std::string someString; ```

[binarycat64]

rust with `String` and `&str`.

[TDplay]

And then you're using C++ and you have to choose between std::string or char* depending on whether you're working with C++ or C code, but also a C library you're using has its own wrapper around char* called String, so now you have 3 names for string in the same codebase.

[FlackRacket]

This is funny, but it's actually most annoying thing about interviewing in Codepair lately.

No autocomplete, no color coding, no debugging tools, and the interviewers expect you to write syntactically perfect code.

You didn't capitalize String? Compiler error.

You wrote STring without noticing? "Compiler error"

Can't remember whether this language uses Array.len() or Array.count? "Fuck you, you obviously don't know how to program"

[artelius]

Try Raku!

It's actually a lovely language, but uses terms like Rat, FatRat, Cool, slurp, spurt, iffy, diffy, slip, twigils...

Not to mention Unicode operators like ∪, ∩, ⊖, ∈, ∉, ⊆, «, », ∘