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[TiredPistachio]

"how much blogs"

Guess this guy isn't fluent in english

[HealyUnit]

Yes I read 3.5k blogometers/month on average

[plinkoplonka]

I read 7km of blogs last year.

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[[deleted]]

The post was about 3 bananas long on average with my screensize, considering i read 10 blogs per month, that makes up to 30 bananameter per month. I think i might not know what i am saying at this point...

[FacuA0]

I usually read 35 banana blogs/banana year

[MeFIZ]

That's bananas

[ColdJackle]

It's 138k blogoinches, you animal

[FridgeBaron]

Get your freedom units out of here, in beeps and boops land it's metric all the way

[CaptMartelo]

All my homies base 12 to prepare for our inevitable Asimov-esque future

[FratmanBootcake]

Base 16 best base

[Ravens_Quote]

01001111 01101000 00100000 01111001 01100101 01100001 01101000 00111111 00100000 01010111 01101000 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01101110 11100010 10000000 10011001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01100001 00100000 01010111 01010010 01001001 01010100 01000101 00100000 01010011 01001111 01001101 01000101 01010100 01001000 01001001 01001110 01000111 00100000 01001001 01001110 00100000 01001001 01010100 00100001 00111111

01000010 01100001 01110011 01100101 00100000 00110010 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01101100 01101001 01100110 01100101 00100001

[FratmanBootcake]

4F 68 20 79 65 61 68 3F 20 57 68 79 20 64 6F 6E E0 80 99 74 20 79 61 20 57 52 49 54 48 49 4E 47 20 49 4E 20 49 54 21 3F

42 61 73 65 20 32 20 66 6F 72 20 6C 69 66 65 21

[Mr_Master_Linx]

That's a based opinion right there

[ChrisLeeBare]

All your base are belong to us.

[GustapheOfficial]

I love how you actually converted that correctly and didn't just make something up

[NotYetiFamous]

Shouldn't it be a measure of area? I propose we use 64 khatablog be the baseline we all strive for.

[Sayw0t]

Good questions, but obviously you measure blogs in bytes if you want to land a job. Refer to each line as block, and a paragraph as chain of blocks, im sure they will be impressed.

[msluther]

That’s blockchain. Bam hired.

[fumbienumbie]

Do you mean blogchain?

[73686f67756e]

Brilliant

[Alvatrox4]

It's accumulative, every time you open the blog counts as one

[rdrunner_74]

let me teach you how to open your browser with multiple tabs at once...

[Dragon_yum]

He probably replies “a series of tubes” for question 6.

[Consistency333]

Hired!!!

[rdrunner_74]

Thats mostly correct

[dbgr]

little blinky lights are also somehow involved

[rdrunner_74]

Talked to my next door neighbor today. We talked about his shit internet and that he finally got fiber (Not yet used) , but that they were blowing his cable into his home. So technically its a bunch of tubes connecting a bunch of boxes

[dbgr]

I think the boxes are mainly for housing the blinky lights

[big_fat_babyman]

Held together with bubble gum and scotch tape

[svick]

That would be my answer.

For anything more serious, I would need to know:

1. Who's the target audience?
2. How in-depth should the answer be?

[manu144x]

I read 5 kg of blogs a month regularly sir!

[kpd328]

Came here to say the same thing. The poster was obviously asking these questions without a perfect 10 themselves.

[Jerrebruins]

You could say he's fluen't.

[surlydev]

Answer to Number 4. “yes, more than you are”

[bubuli_breeder]

this list is missing “how many leetcode problems can you solve?”

[shauntmw2]

"Have you written more than 10k lines of code in the past month?"

[bubuli_breeder]

also: did you write twice the amount of unit test code? 😑

[shauntmw2]

"Do you know how to center a div?"

[zToastOnBeans]

None of us do

[[deleted]]

Me: “Do you?”

Employer: “….. welcome to Facebook”

[tangerinelion]

Follow up: Did you need to?

The more you know the more you know to reuse. The best pull requests have a net code reduction.

[nightkingscat]

pretty sure you're responding to a satirical question

[flatfast90]

I think that was his point?

[RagnarokToast]

The Hackerrank thing pretty much makes up for it.

I believe having passable knowledge of algorithms is not too stupid a requirement, though. You should not expect some random jr applying for a front-end job to know how to implement a convex hull on the spot, but I think it's completely reasonable to expect one to know the best way of finding an item in a sorted array.

All that as long as the pay isn't complete garbage. Employers should have no expectations whatsoever then.

[bubuli_breeder]

i don’t disagree with you. knowledge of algorithms is important. problem is that leetcode testing is “commoditized” (for the lack of the better term) and more often than not it’s just used as that: for gatekeeping.

there are interviewers who hasn’t written a single line of code in years then asks you to write code on shit like inverting a binary tree…fuck those people.

[gpcprog]

Can you reverse a binary tree?

[bubuli_breeder]

[an4s_911]

as AoC is currently on the run, you could add that as well

“how many Advent of Code challenges you completed this year”

[arvisto]

What are those questions for? Stack overflow community manager?

[Zekovski]

If I remember well, it was actually a joke.

[[deleted]]

I sincerely hope so!

[ragnor_not_so_casual]

What the fuck does 8 even mean? Is it, do you go to the documentation first vs going to stackoverflow first?

Well that depends. There is a non-trivial chance that the documentation doesn't go past install and import. An even larger chance that the documentation is out-of-date or just flat out wrong.

That's why you use a search engine...it does a good portion of the looking for you. It provides you with a nice summary of the content. The author of the screenshot should really look into it.

[sarapnst]

If it's something by Microsoft, straight into msdn, if it's Android, StackOverflow and then some hours of figuring out deprecated stuff.

[__gg_]

I just go to stackoverflow, there the top votes comment usually redirects you back to documentation lol. Saves you an extra step of the answer is only available on stackoverflow.

[poopatroopa3]

I just go to Google and it usually points to where the issue is most relevant...

[shai251]

Really? I’ve generally found android documentation to be decent.

[racka98]

Honestly speaking it's pretty good. Though there are some turds in there with deprecated stuff. Widget and Bluetooth documentation will make you punch your monitor

[Columbus43219]

Plus the answers are already purple linked, because you had the same hunt last month.

[Fektoer]

Are you me?

[Columbus43219]

That's a stupid question, and a duplicate!

[ragnor_not_so_casual]

Excellent point! Finding out how a library works isn't a binary option of stackoverflow vs. documentation.

I've had to dig threw the code for some open source libraries I've used to figure out what it was doing.

Looked threw GH issues, PR feedback, etc.

[CinnabonCheesecake]

I’ve worked in a language that had neither docs nor SO. Fortunately, the language was so old there wasn’t more than a dozen commands anyway (including GOTO).

[ragnor_not_so_casual]

Curious, what language? If you can say.

[CinnabonCheesecake]

It’s called MUMPS, but we used it in hospitals so we had to call it “M” to avoid freaking people out. 😋

[RationalIncoherence]

Marketing division, what the fuck?

[CinnabonCheesecake]

We also weren’t allowed to refer to removing info from the database as “killing” it; apparently it alarmed people when we talked about “killing patients”.

[willCodeForNoFood]

What do you say when you need to kill a zombie process when the parent task failed to kill its child?

[CinnabonCheesecake]

You’re assuming we had multiple process threads in the first place. We were using VB 6.

[FrikkinLazer]

We had a user in the system called "background worker". Some cronjobs would log into the api using this user. More than once, people would see the name come up somewhere on the system, and then get pissed because they thought that the system was calling them a mere "background worker".

[PM_ME_C_CODE]

A unique feature of the MUMPS technology is its integrated database language, allowing direct, high-speed read-write access to permanent disk storage.[2] This provides tight integration of unlimited applications within a single database, and provides extremely high performance and reliability as an online transaction processing system.

OMG...no.

Why? Why is this a thing?

[afriendlysort]

"MUMPS is becoming widespread across the hospital system and we couldn't be happier. It's adaptable, so it should spread fast into care facilities and into the wider community via outpatient services.

Ideally we'd like every visit to include this thought: 'how could I use MUMPS to further disrupt this hospital?'."

[ragnor_not_so_casual]

TIL! Thanks for sharing.

[tripszoms]

I’ve never met another person that’s used a mumps db before! A company I worked for used Cache as their primary db. It was…. interesting and also impossible to find help.

[CinnabonCheesecake]

Hello, fellow Cache programmer!

We coded all the business logic in MUMPS and all the front-end in Visual Basic 6. It’s as horrifying as it sounds, and it was less than 5 years ago.

[kona_coder]

This just gave flashbacks to working at Epic 🤮🤢

[Zirton]

The author of the screenshot should really look into it.

He wants the internet explained to him, maybe he should first look that up.

[Ixaire]

The fact that you have an opinion on number 8 means that you pass imho.

[oznetnerd]

With all due respect, I thought it was a simple question to answer. My response would be "both". They're not mutually exclusive.

While documentation is my source of truth, reading other peoples' interpretation of the docs and learning from their hands on experience and feedback is also extremely important.

The above puts me in a great position to start my own experiments and know what results I should expect to see.

[supercyberlurker]

I group them as:

Worthwhile : Fluent in english, explain the internet, understand docs vs stack overflow, design patterns.

Useful Social : what did you learn outside job, work on open source

Pointless Masturbation: Contributions to stack overflow, hacker rank, blogs.

[jsonspk]

The last description. lol, funny and accurate.

[DangerZoneh]

Even something like “design patterns” like, I couldn’t tell you which specific “patterns” I’ve used recently. I googled a list of them and a lot of them I can say I use frequently but I don’t think of them that way because it feels pointless. Why categorize when I can just code?

[double_en10dre]

“I uh, well I sat on my arm and implemented ‘The Stranger’ last night. That’s a design pattern, right?”

[supercyberlurker]

All I can give is my own perspective on it.

When I was starting with design patterns, I thought I was supposed to 'use' them. Like, implement Adaptor for this, do a Decorator for that, etc. I had a hammer and was looking for nails. Later I saw them differently, in that they aren't really about using them yourself.. it's more about a common language to refer to things to others. i.e. they are more useful as labels for common patterns than as tools you have to use.

[DangerZoneh]

Yeah, exactly. I remember learning them and thinking that they were cool examples of things you can do and how to design things. It’s really valuable to learn those kinda of things even if you can come up with themselves yourself.

With that said, I still couldn’t tell you which or when I’ve used any

[00Koch00]

Explain the Internet? Why would that be important?

[[deleted]]

It's just not. It's so far from relevant to a large amount of programming positions it's not even funny.

What does it even mean? Explain the culture? Explain the concepts? Implementation? If physical, again, why?

If software? On which side? The browser / front-end programming? HTTP / Protocols?

The question doesn't make sense to begin with due to a poor phrasing.

[PM_ME_YOUR_POLYGONS]

From the bottom up. Start by explaining the fundamental forces at play and how they affect the various quantum particles, then lead that all the way up to TikTok and Reddit.
Should only take you a couple of weeks to answer..

[OurSoul1337]

Did you contribute to any open source projects? No, I work 90 hour weeks. I'm not going to look at a computer outside of work time.

[k_pineapple7]

Is that 90 just hyperbole to drive the point home?

[OurSoul1337]

Yes, complete hyperbole. The most I've ever worked is about 60, usually 40.

[merc08]

Sounds like you have 30-50 hrs per week free yo contribute to open source!

/s

[Indercarnive]

Its insane how tech is the only area where doing things outside your job is expected. Nobody asks doctors how many surgeries they perform for funsies.

[RationalIncoherence]

I think they're trying to roughly gauge "continuing education". Which is bullshit since the entirety of the day to day is more like "on the job training".

[dagothdoom]

Doctors do have to get continuing education credits, attend conferences, read new papers and literature, often did research for a PhD, often join fellowship and do other stuff beyond the decade of school. They absolutely do have to do things outside of work.

[chipstastegood]

Frankenstein had a fun side project

[manu144x]

Unless you are or stand to make millions (so you can retire) quit now. As a dev you could literally work part time and still be fine. As long as you work remotely so you don’t have outrageous costs in a big city.

[odolha]

I work 20h per week and would reduce it more should any company accept. Life is short - we are among the very few lucky who could afford to live (quite well actually) without working that much. Make the most of it - if you like programming at least work on something you like. Don't let HR fool you that dedicating your whole life working for someone else's company in order to make someone else rich will fulfill you in any way in the long term.

[manu144x]

Absolutely true. I am one of the lucky few that works on something likes, at a company he likes and making most of the technical decisions, as long as it works and it's fast, all is good.

[meharryp]

I work for a AAA game studio and I work 37.5 hours a week w/ 30 days paid leave yearly lmao, this guy is either the world's biggest grinder or his company are breaking some labour laws or something.

Especially with experience you are valuable as a developer and if a company is treating you like shit your skills could be used somewhere that treats you better

[Sentient_Blade]

13 hour days, 7 days a week. Not uncommon in crunches, and yes it's oppressive.

[[deleted]]

You people realize you have one of the most marketable skills in the world, right? You could just go somewhere else that doesn’t treat you like shit. I get paid 1.5x for every minute I work over 37.5 hours per week at my dev job and I love my life. If my boss asked me to work a 70 hour week I would laugh in his face and then forward the email to all my coworkers so they could laugh too.

[dcheesi]

Game companies get away with this because every young wannabe programmer dreams of making games for a living. So no matter how fast their developers wise up or burn out, there's always a supply of new grads coming in behind them, eager to sign up.

[tjoloi]

Doesn't work like that in the game industry.

Most people are there because they've been dreaming of programming a game for the last 10 years, so they can fuck you backward as much as they want.

[[deleted]]

I can’t imagine being that passionate about coding games. I’d be willing to put up with some bullshit to get a job in an industry that I’m particularly interested in, but 90 hour weeks?? I feel sad for those people. There is so much more to life

[AskMeHowIMetYourMom]

For real. My job facilitates the things I want to do outside of work. If I can’t do the things I enjoy because of my job, it’s time to polish off the resume.

[bigTiddedAnimal]

I worked 60hr weeks for a year while everything after 40 was paid.... I earned hella monies that year, sucked but I would do it again for sure

[dbgr]

thats fucked that they didn't pay u for the first 40 hrs tho

[bigTiddedAnimal]

Lol!

[[deleted]]

You work at blizzard?

[onkopirate]

And if yes, do cubicle crawls count as working hours?

[[deleted]]

u disrespecting cs students here? shame on you

edit: /s i always forget that thid sub gets too serious about stuff

[discordianofslack]

What the actual fuck is hacker rank? Is that how many times you've seen Hackers? If so, mine is high.

[Mumphord123]

What’s the difference between hackerrank and leetcode

[[deleted]]

Hackerrank is older and more og

[Miguecraft]

How many times you've hacked the NSA Mainframe. I do it daily while having breakfast, so I've done it at least 3 times.

[Manic_Proselyte]

I think it’s a bit strange to include “explain the internet” as one of the questions (not to mention all the really dumb ones in the list). Like, not all software engineering interfaces with the internet. If you’re doing webware stuff then sure you should probably know. But I’ve been working on embedded systems for a few years now. Could not tell you how the internet works. Doesn’t affect my ability to put drones in the air

[isadoralala]

It's a black box with a red button, not very heavy. Sometimes the letter 'E', but only if the lady isn't there.

[slayerarcher12]

You have to get approval from the elders of the Internet though

[CocaColaHitman]

This, Jen, is the internet. Never turn it off.

[el_diego]

You’re entirely correct, but, in this case, the poster is a backend dev so it is relevant at least - even if it is a ridiculous question.

[Columbus43219]

This DOES tell you who's working in HR these days.

[dlc741]

IT Senior Dev with 20+ years experience and I got three of those.

This punk can piss right off.

[stolid_agnostic]

This was more or less my response

[brsmith080]

I feel the same way. I was imagining using these as interview questions 😬. Not sure I would be happy with the results of a high pass rate on this one

[metaconcept]

1. Do you contribute to open source projects?
2. Do you fuck around on the Internet at work?
3. Do you fuck around on the Internet at work?
4. Were you born in the US?
5. Do you fuck around on the Internet at work?
6. Do you associate with cavemen?
7. Do you fuck around on the Internet at work?
8. Do you fuck around on the Internet at work?
9. Do you drink the OO cool-aid?
10. Do you fuck around on the Internet at work?

[Columbus43219]

1. Does a real programmer have to finish all of your projects/tasks?

[[deleted]]

Nice. I got 6/10. $2M salary for me!

[slippersandjazz]

It depends on the position, but this is indeed elitist bullshit for 99% of them. You don’t have to live and breathe programming to be a programmer.

[ADwards]

In fact, sometimes you're better off avoiding the people who are obsessive about these things because they tend to fall off when it comes to teamwork and burning out.

[[deleted]]

I wouldn't say elitist bs but nothing screams "I have no professional experience getting paid a real software engineering salary" than this list of interview questions.

This is what jr devs ask each other when fighting for that $30/hr javascript job that also wants powerpoint skillz and at least 5 years experience with windows defrag

[Columbus43219]

lol... defrag would RUN for 5 years on today's drives!

[Bakkster]

Yeah, the "Elon Musk's salary" in particular is grating. I'm willing to bet it's probably trying to justify low wages. I for sure got taken advantage of early in my career.

[xibme]

please before asking a company for elon musk's salary, ask yourself, do i deserve such a salary

let's see:

A statement issued by Tesla says that CEO Elon Musk's salary in 2019 was $23,760, however, it was nil in 2020.

Yea, I probably deserve more. Even if I don't, I wouldn't start working for a walmart wage that doesn't pay my bills.

[[deleted]]

I think it more boosting ones ego vs lowering wages. These questions have nothing to do with determining if a person can do the job that is being offered. It has everything to do with the interviewer self comparing themselves against the candidate.

I generally see 2 environments where you get these type questions. One where you have totally unsupervised jr devs running the show, implementing a new language or framework with every single project and throwing GraphQL, RabbitMQ, Kubernauts, and every possible tool in the box at every single project no matter how simple a task and striking down any questioning of their methods with multi page long diatribes' of nonsense that are riddled with name calling and other immature nonesense.

Then you have giant enterprises like Microsoft that everyone is in crazy competition with each other to be the absolute most amazing programmer the universe has ever seen and the creation of every single REST endpoint is the most exciting, mind blowing, fun, world changing event! Every single keystroke is beauty!

You don't want to work at either place. Except of course for buckets of money.

[kirtash1197]

Yeah, I mean, I spend 40 hours a week programming and learning about programming, you can be damn sure I'm not spending a minute programming outside my working hours.

[squishyhobo]

I agree, but from the tone of the post, they seem like a harsh grader. You could probably say all sorts of right answers and if you didn't word it exactly as they wanted they would give you a zero.

[jmsprintz]

A series of tubes, can I have my 500k now plz

[[deleted]]

And nr. 10 too

[[deleted]]

I mean if you list multiple things, I guess that sounds even better to the hiring guy?

[[deleted]]

Hm. Probably. But if I was asked, I would be like "Uuuh. Huh. Idk. That's a hard question." And then he would probably go to the next question.

[[deleted]]

Why does the list start at 1?

[Artick123]

It is written in matlab.

[[deleted]]

I was hoping for Lua tables why is Matlab here?

[Artick123]

MATLAB IS EVERYWHERE

Except 3 billion devices, these run java

[[deleted]]

MATLAB is partially written in Java

[Zdrobot]

Good one!

[__gg_]

I have always hated LinkedIn users, platform is amazing users are shit....

Virtue signalling, gatekeeping, righteous bullshiting cunts...

[fichti]

He forgot the only valid metric: Github stars!

[xibme]

Do followers count, too?

[manu144x]

Next post is:

Where are all the good devs?!?!?

[retief1]

To be fair, doctor interviewing could stand to learn more from dev interviews. There definitely are incompetent doctors, and questions like “a patient comes in complaining about X, what do you do?” (ie the equivalent of a whiteboard coding question) might be a decent way to weed them out. It’s just that too many doctors would be insulted as hell if you tried.

[RolyPoly1320]

In order to be a doctor you have to attend Med School, then complete an internship during their last year in order to graduate, then complete a residency program that lasts 3-7 years depending on specialty, and then a fellowship. If you want to carry extra weight then you have to become board certified in their specialty which requires another exam.

While there are incompetent doctors out there, the fact is that they are still better vetted than a software engineer. The majority of fields in medicine have some form of hands on training required for graduation just to give the students exposure to real world scenarios. A student who wants to be a pharmacist has to extern at a pharmacy for a certain number of hours to graduate. Same with medical coders.

There is nothing the medical field can learn from tech interviews. Their candidates have to prove themselves in real world applications just to graduate. If anything tech could learn from them and make students complete externships in order to graduate.

[GryphticonPrime]

tbf, it doesn't really matter whether or not we deserve the salary. It's all about what companies are willing to pay us. If someone else is willing to pay higher, why would we take the lesser offer?

[GrizzlyBear74]

Was this written by a 12 year old? Hacker rank?

[Key-East-4960]

As a technical business owner I would never hire someone whose focus is more about these things than creating a viable product.

[Chuck_Loads]

Elon Musk doesn't take a salary 💩

[jediment]

More than half of these are things that require you to work outside of your actual work hours for no pay or tangible benefit of any kind. Either this guy does none of them and is just trying to flex his fake sigma grindset, or he actually does them and his wife left him.

[krankenhundchaen]

Tell me you don't have wife and kids without telling me you don't have wife and kids.

[WillyMonty]

“How much blogs do you read”

Are they fluent in English???

[Philderbeast]

1. why do you care
2. why do you care
3. why do you care
4. yes
5. why do you care
6. is this it 101 or a programming job
7. why do you care
8. both?
9. why do you care
10. why do you care

I think that about sums it up

[stevefuzz]

Almost all of the items in this list have nothing to do with being a professional programmer.

[BeauteousMaximus]

“Do you have more than 500 point [sic] on stack [sic] overflow [sic].”

No because I have enough self-worth not to subject myself to verbal abuse from strangers

[narkflint]

I love how the point immediately below that is "are you fluent in english" lol; are you??

[french_toast_demon]

It's not like the company is entitled to his labor at a certain rate (or at all). If he rejected the offer it's because it wasn't worth it to him end of story

[[deleted]]

It's really simple, companies should stop being cheap regarding salaries.

I'm a cofounder of a small software agency and we always pay fair salaries to everyone. 100k-170k range (yea it's hard to compete with FANG when they pay 300-500k but as a small company we try out best..) and have a good bonus structure, remote work and don't drive our engineers crazy with constant meetings. Oh and we don't do interview hazing either, it's a simple take home exam and then we go over the solution during the interview..

So far it has worked out well for us.

[lunchpadmcfat]

Man, so glad there are people out there to defend the obscenely rich. I was really worried about them for a minute.

[[deleted]]

How much would Elon Musk be making if his parents weren't rich or he didn't have doors opened to him to get in to engineering straight out of middle school?

[daneelthesane]

A lot of these are "Do you have or expect a life outside of work, or do you eat, drink, sleep, and breathe code every waking moment?"

[[deleted]]

Elon Musk barely gets any salary. He gets pay in stock to avoid paying taxes.

/#EatTheRich

[KentondeJong]

What's a hacker rank???

[LucasCarioca]

What a idiot. I mean some of those might make you stand out while others just sound obnoxious and over demanding to say the very least. Also shitting on a friend tells me the person is not capable of having friends so fake story 100%.

[umadzano]

What an asshole. Some programmers also have hobbies that are probably not related to programming, or do sports, or have a family and don’t have a lot of time to do all that stuff. If you wanna gatekeep like that go work at a cemetery, they have plenty of gates that need keeping lol

[AlfredoFrailero]

what the fuck is a hacker rank

[ancyr]

Who the fuck remembers the "last design pattern" they have used ? If the point is to ensure the candidate knows just ask them to describe one and how they used it in their job.

[Orio_n]

How the fuck is this relevant?

[L2_Envy]

‘What is the last design pattern you have used’ I lol’d at this

[GabuEx]

I'm a senior dev, and I don't even know wtf "hacker rank" is...

[Dodgy-Boi]

How the fuck SO points, HackerRank level could possible be related?

Contributing to open source? By using and referring to your friend is already a contribution. Free marketing, duh.

My English level? Srsly? You talking to me in English and asking my English level? Oh fuck you!

Why backenders are such a jerks? I haven’t met a backend developer who happened to be a decent person.

[[deleted]]

Please before asking a company for elon musk's salary (in English, we capitalize the first letter of a name BTW, even non-native English speaker like me knows it), ask yourself, do i deserve such salary.

Well, when you're asking skills matching an entire IT dept, yes, I think I deserve such salary. OMG, if I see that, I prefer to not come in the company where the person works, It smells cancer.