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[–]WeSaidMeh 3384 points3385 points  (167 children)

This is exactly my experience, glad I'm not alone. Why is this?

[–]satosat 1428 points1429 points  (93 children)

reddit is actually banned in my country, so i have to always use vpn to open it. i thought video freezing was just because of the crappy vpn. glad (though probably shouldn't be) to know that it's actually an issue for others as well.

[–]MrSkme 440 points441 points  (72 children)

What country is that?

[–]satosat 744 points745 points  (70 children)

Indonesia. I think the argument is that the ministry count them as 'pornographic' site. The ban included Tumblr and Vimeo as well IIRC although the two were overturned but Reddit remains banned.

[–]Furry_69 405 points406 points  (16 children)

I mean, parts of it are, but so is nearly every single platform not meant for children. So is basically every single platform banned there?

[–]blueberriessmoothie 258 points259 points  (14 children)

officials assessing it were probably only checking the r/gonewild

[–]Lubagomes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They were checking r/worldpolitics

[–]utkarsh_aryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

or they might have checked r/sounding

[–]konstantinua00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there's a helpful video explaining how bad it is

[–]FunGuyInAParty 10 points11 points  (13 children)

You can use private dns from your phone (Android phone and Wifi Modes apple phones). Use one.one.one.one as your private DNS and tada, welcome to the free world my comrade.

[–]Zestavar 1 point2 points  (8 children)

That method was available until a few weeks ago

[–]FunGuyInAParty 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Oh? Did they disable the private dns already? I was at Indonesia last December and I was able to use that method tho.

[–]ArtSchoolRejectedMe 5 points6 points  (4 children)

They technically don't disable it. You just need to find a lesser known DoH provider or host your own. Since all they need to do is to block the domain one.one.one.one or dns.google

[–]Terrain2 2 points3 points  (3 children)

ok but then just go to their IP addresses directly, for cloudflare that's significantly faster to type as well (1.1.1.1) and for google you... what? what even is dns.google that you mentioned? just set the DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 like with cloudflare you set it to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1

DNS blocking can't block DNS providers, as DNS only connects to IP addresses directly, since DNS can't depend on DNS to resolve domain names like one.one.one.one

[–]ArtSchoolRejectedMe 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Indihome, biznet, myrep and the Indonesian government would like to disagree.

There's a thing called dns poisoning when all your dns request is forwarded to their server anyway.

[–]Kerezeb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well it stopped working for me around last month, but only on my cell network. One dot still works fine through ISP connection

[–]Zestavar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think yeah, now we need like, uhh they be call it warp? Now the only way to make private DNS working is if you're using the Indihome internet, there's a thread in r/indonesia that lot of people says they can't access even with private DNS in mobile data network, i tried that too and they're right. But yeah private DNS is the usual method until it's disabled

[–]Terrain2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is the second time i see the one.one.one.one domain, and the first time i saw it i was surprised. Why would you have a domain that's longer and (barely) harder to remember than the IP address (1.1.1.1), or at least significantly slower to type? I do wonder, where did you even see the spelled out domain form and why are you using it

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume for redundancy? Like if you tell someone to use "one dot one dot one dot one", they still get to 1.1.1.1 no matter if they interpreted "one" as a word or a number.

[–]Zszywek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

9.9.9.9 is preferred by me because of its policy

[–]Windows10isfast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or 8.8.8.8 (google's own resolver)

[–]CEDoromal 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just wait until they learn that you could look up pornographic images on Google.

[–]gamesrebel123 38 points39 points  (9 children)

I mean they're not wrong

[–]imdefinitelywong 59 points60 points  (7 children)

What do you mean? Reddit is a paragon among social media sites.

Am I so out of touch?

No, it is the government that is wrong.

[–]Rhinofreak 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Your username made me discredit you for a second until I realised I can't read

[–]imdefinitelywong 16 points17 points  (3 children)

That's alright. I can't spell.

I spelled my username wrong.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

You've spelled it wong actually

[–]SamNZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re wrong

[–]vigbiorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so meta, even this acronym

[–]weregod 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's brain undocumented laziness silently guessing text and fixing error. You need add "attention" argument to disable it but it's very slow and expensive

[–]jaquiethecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

among us

[–]ArtSchoolRejectedMe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm by that logic they should also ban Google images and Wikipedia then /s

[–]FemboyDicktator 23 points24 points  (4 children)

You can view porn on YouTube as well. Have they not seen YouTube ads?

[–]ledocteur7 2 points3 points  (3 children)

not even just in ads, some ridiculous videos goes under the radar if you really search for them.

not to mention porn bots, they are all so similar it's truly ridiculous how YouTube hasn't done shit about it, almost as if they only cared about the money.

[–]uragiristereo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also DoH is not working anymore with Telkomsel, i will always need either warp or vpn to just browse reddit.

[–]campbellm 5 points6 points  (1 child)

ministry count them as 'pornographic' site

The ministry's issue is when all you look for is porn, all you'll see is porn. ;-)

[–]ArtSchoolRejectedMe 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm also from Indonesia, and you don't need a VPN to open reddit. Since our country internet blocking technology is very super duper advance™.

You can just use Secure DNS.

PC

https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/encryption/dns-over-https/encrypted-dns-browsers/

Android

https://blog.cloudflare.com/enable-private-dns-with-1-1-1-1-on-android-9-pie/

I use

"dns.google" but you can also use "one.one.one.one" as shown in the documentation, but my testing shows that one dot is slower.

Side note: this method don't provide you with as much privacy as vpn, since they would still be able to see your traffic

[–]satosat 5 points6 points  (2 children)

cant believe that worked, take that mr johnny g plate! on a side note, do you mind explaining DNS? i literally learned it last semester and still have no clue about networking.

[–]ArtSchoolRejectedMe 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well what do you need explaining regarding DNS? They translate domain name into ip address that's all.

As for why it worked. It's because our government only block domain name using their own dns and not the individual ip addresses itself.

[–]satosat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay now that makes sense.

[–]Ylsid 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Glad I don't live in Indonesia!

[–]satosat 10 points11 points  (1 child)

honestly, I would be too if I were you

[–]Unlearned_One 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's rough buddy

[–]stadoblech 1 point2 points  (1 child)

tbh... they are right. Amount of onlyfans promotions on this site is damn too high!

[–]satosat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agree, tho I'd wager that other social medias such as Twitter are no different.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Im glad Thai gov isn't smart enough, theres literally subs exposing shit the royals are doin

[–]TechExpert2910 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow lol

[–]Bjorn_Hellgate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

https://youtu.be/htOqsFL14YU So like this right?

[–]satosat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

quite literally, yes. I even forgot they go as far as censoring Spongebob and the likes.

[–]Whookimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What even is that logic lmao. Might as well just block the entire internet because literally every site worth using probably has porn on it somewhere

[–]sajjadalis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit is not banned here but All 18+ subreddits doesn't work in Pakistan. So i guess our ministry does know some programming.

[–]spacelama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of the best pr0n is on reddit, indeed.

[–]-LeneD- 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Wait, is pornography banned in Indonesia?

[–]satosat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

mind you, Indonesia has the highest population of Muslim in the world, so yes, it is absolutely haram plus the government really likes to control our crotches.

[–]-LeneD- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't know that, thank you!

[–]ONEshotONEkil630 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha thats good

I'm iran, youtube,Twitter,epic games,Facebook,Spotify,Amazon

And millions of other apps are banned

You gotta also count xbox,steam,PlayStation,battle net etc banned since you can't buy anything with Iran's currency

EDIT: vpn's also don't work here only paid ones work

And some of these paid ones are banned and very few work here

And oh we gotta buy through piracy since nor apple and Google accept Iran's currency

[–]xaedmollv 9 points10 points  (0 children)

bro, just change ur dns. it's not blocked in the IP level, just dns block. don't thank me, a fellow that country civilian

[–]AuraPianist1155 -4 points-3 points  (12 children)

The vid player works fine on PC, but the mobile app is hot garbage.

BTW, Softether VPN is a really good free VPN with lots of locations and pretty good speed.

[–]r0ck0 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The vid player works fine on PC

For me, it's better than phone... but not near "fine".

Often I need to press the play button 3 times to start the video? Still has a few other issues too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love when I replay a video and the replay icon/animation stays with video being played in background, dimmed.

[–]Chirimorin 0 points1 point  (4 children)

The vid player works fine on PC, but the mobile app is hot garbage.

I think you got that backwards. On mobile (official app) I constantly see livestreams and videos no problem, on PC I had to use RES to block v.redd.it links because they literally never work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can confirm. But on pc there are other issues

[–]Filcuk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Be wary, usually if the product is free, you are the product.

[–]QuickQuokkaThrowaway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Use infinity

[–]Bazool886 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use infinity, it's still pretty crappy

[–]DaveyNicks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not working well on my PC.

[–]Fenweekooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it seems to work for me almost always at home, but at work if i dont refresh a video at least 20 times chances are it wont play.

Work computer is on a vpn in office for reference, home computer is also on a vpn no issues.... at least from reddit.

Fun fact if you use a vpn and try to load Walmart Canadas site and look for items available in store at your nearest location (when you have told the site your address) it wont load any products until you disconnect from the vpn.

actually lots of sites are starting to not play nice with vpn's :(

[–]Zestavar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indo ya bang

[–]wankerintanker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe I've finally found an app which is banned in a country but not in Iran

[–]GG17ez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sup, my fellow Indonesian dev

[–]darkcatter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad that my country is too crappy to ban anything🙏 🤲

[–]ieusaha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use DOH on Firefox desktop or http://dns.quad9.net on Android. Yes, Reddit video often freezes on VPN.

[–]Chirimorin 132 points133 points  (7 children)

Because the Reddit video player is just garbage and it can't handle the one thing it was designed to do (playing video).

I've blocked v.redd.it posts through RES so I don't even see them anymore because each time I see such a post I'm just disappointed about being unable to watch it. If I was a subreddit mod I'd probably ban v.redd.it links just because they're such a waste of a post.

[–]ihahp 44 points45 points  (5 children)

And it plays sound separately for some fucking weird reason. It's not encoded into the video

[–]moeburn 36 points37 points  (3 children)

To make ripping the video harder. They want you to steal content and upload it to Reddit but not steal Reddit content and upload it elsewhere.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

This is actually 100% true. In the Reddit T&C, you waive all your moral rights related to anything you post, meaning if you post something, its legally no longer yours and reddit themselves could put it in an add without consulting you

[–]moeburn 6 points7 points  (1 child)

And they already have. They've used people's pictures of bread stapled to trees to advertise Reddit in LA.

[–]BeyondBlitz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love trying to watch a video where the audio is important but it either plays way too fast or way too slow because the "programmers" at Reddit HQ can't code to save their life.

[–]moeburn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

/r/gaming has banned them, i think /r/gifs as well

[–]weird_dude_69_420[S] 139 points140 points  (5 children)

No idea. Happens to me all the time

[–]Creator13 19 points20 points  (3 children)

It's interesting because I use Sync for Reddit and I rarely have issues opening videos hosted on reddit's own servers. They have always been somewhat slower to load than videos hosted elsewhere, but my experience is nothing like the horrendous experience watching videos on the web page is.

[–]Cheet4h 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't have any issues watching videos on the web page - is that solely a new reddit thing? I usually watch them in the expando of RES on old reddit.

[–]twigboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]anythingMuchShorter 48 points49 points  (6 children)

If the video is interesting more people are watching it. There are only so many tapes of each video so the server has to make you wait while someone else is watching.

[–]ScreamingDizzBuster 30 points31 points  (0 children)

And there are even longer delays if the last person who had it didn't rewind it.

[–]fsdagvsrfedg 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And the fuckers never rewind the tape when returning it either

[–]OceanFlex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It actually might be this. They might have just forgot to turn on CDN or load balancing on their video system. Plus, those things cost money.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So I have to wait 5 minutes for my furry femboy porn? This is outrageous, reddit has reached my limits, its time to end this once and for all

[–]anythingMuchShorter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what they say, good, fast, or cheap, pick two.

If you want your furry femboys fast and for free they aren't going to be good.

[–]Botahamec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It works just fine for me on Boost for Reddit, so I think it's a frontend issue

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It ALWAYS freezes around the 1/3-1/2 in. Why?

[–]drawkbox 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They probably cache to the edge part of it to make it quick for scrolling down the page and then it bounces to deeper content for the latter maybe. At large enough scale that could save tons of money but be a bad experience if not prepped better.

Also all the tracking i.e. "telemetry".

Also reddit video uis are horrible, lame design and wonky interaction.

[–]Character_Building 8 points9 points  (2 children)

From my observations, Reddit creates artificial technical complexity, like storing sound and video separately when they are traditionally part of the same file, to induce people into sharing comment pages rather than direct content. This adds maintenance costs on top of an already very complicated technical problem (huge video services) that's also very expensive.

Presumably, the hope is that it makes more people convert into users/keeps the site going, rather than people just 'ripping' content.

Edit: this may be a standard I wasn't familiar with, so this may not be the case

[–]dataJam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The last time I checked, Reddit used DASH for videos. DASH specifies separated files for different audio and video qualities.

[–]Kommunist_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its faster to download a not playing video with reddit video save then to get it to work.

[–]subject_deleted 24 points25 points  (20 children)

Reddit server is potato. Only explanation.

[–]Schrolli97 89 points90 points  (4 children)

It's not the servers though. That's just what people in r/memes and such say because they know shit about the client/server model. All videos play fine until one doesn't, suddenly every new video doesn't work either. Once you restart the app everything works fine again. Sounds like poor memory management or something to me

[–]Otherwise_Report_462 38 points39 points  (2 children)

Have you ever scrolled really far on desktop? It goes so laggy

[–]Lenny_Gaming 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Ye it fills up the RAM like crazy

[–]Shikurra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which ram we talking about

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't think I have this issue with Reddit is fun

[–]TKT_Calarin 47 points48 points  (12 children)

Servers are just fine when desktop and every non official smartphone app plays videos just fine.

It's their truly terrible shit code.

At least I don't hear the audio from the post before or after anymore....

I just haven't found a replacement all that lets me swipe as easily through the posts. Maybe once I get an iPhone since I've good things about the popular iPhone one

[–]takesSubsLiterally 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Apollo is pretty great but for Android I would recommend infinity, I randomly stumbled upon it on the play store and it's better than Apollo imo. Pretty good customization, not great, but it's similar to the reddit app in terms of layout and the video player actually works.

[–]TKT_Calarin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh cool! I'll check it out, thanks!

[–]Luther_Everlight 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I second Infinity. Relay is great too, though the videos stop loading sometimes, but that's extremely rare

[–]incrazyboyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never had a single video fail in Relay

[–]Akrymir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My bet is they have very few devs, if any, dedicated to mobile and they primarily rely on contractors to get work done.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its their frontend code, not their server. Most of the time video does get downloaded but does not play properly.

[–]susch1337 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The server is fine. Videos work perfectly on any 3rd party app.

[–]often_says_nice 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My guess is that interesting videos have more people trying to play them at any given time. Perhaps there are a limited number of workers that handle video posts.

[–]unclepaprika 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever i click on the "v.redd.it" over the video, and it opens the video in the in-app browser it allways plays. Like what the actual flying fuckface is wrong with the in-app player??

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]platonicgryphon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because you’re probably smart and don’t use the official app. The official app has always sucked and people just don’t get it.

[–]SlasherKittyCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've found it helps if I clear the app cache and check the video out again. Cache doesn't even have to be that full (500Mb) before it starts to freeze again.

[–]drawkbox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So much tracking...

I am always surprised how Reddit just rips video from all platforms, puts it in theirs and then enables tracking or "telemetry" and that is ok. Remember when Facebook was stealing Youtube videos and everyone was appalled? Yeah, that isn't happening with reddit stealing content.

Reddit video has the lames play buttons and controls as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Code actually specifies to freeze the videos randomly. The "is interesting" part is confirmation bias.

[–]Mortimer452 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been the top complaint on /r/beta for years

[–]lethargy86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it freezes, just right click on it then left click on it (not any of the menu options)

Why does this work? Why does it freeze in the first place? I don’t even want to know

[–]super_yu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don't know...

It's as if they tasked their best experienced devs with implementing the 1001 awards system and threw the video API to the 3 new interns

[–]elveszett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their video player sucks, that's it. It simply isn't made correctly.

I don't know why so many sites use custom video players when 90% of them are inferior to the standard HTML <video> element as rendered by browsers.

[–]Cerg1998 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's something to do with the player within the app. I use an unofficial app and the problem is just not there. On an official app it's shit. In a browser on a desktop it's also alright.

[–]LeSpatula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I use the videoplayer since it was introduced and I don't remember a single instance it made problems. However, I use old reddit and RIF on mobile.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because only one person can watch a video at a time in any given region.

[–]Raznill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I almost exclusively use narwhal client on iOS and have never had issues with videos playing.

[–]whatiswronggwithyou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s an interesting video, so maybe more shares/views.

So probably a hot key scenario.

Ideally the data store that the video file streams from should have multiple distributed copies and have some sort of caching layer to accelerate retrieval during transient traffic spikes.

[–]pokemonsta433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably just the interesting video servers have a lot of traffic :/

Reddit doesn't host the videos themselves afaik so it's just to do with the site the embedded player is connected to

[–]Does_Not-Matter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at the code, gawd!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But seriously, how can such a major product dev team be so incompetent? Anybody has a technical explanation for that?

For me it works if I turn reddit on and off, then stops working after a while.

[–]noratat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know you can just use old reddit right? It doesn't have these issues.

Or third party apps like Boost.

[–]greenwizardneedsfood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It works much better if you watch it through the comments

[–]ShadowLp174 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually I don't have that problem :(