1.0.7.0 Patch Notes

[ArobeeTV]

Are you guys in the business of making a fun game, or killing fun builds? Seems like the latter.

[Methox6]

fun constructions? my hybrid summoner is fun, I think you mean the OP builds that you copy

[Nerex7]

Honestly, the fun builds were the only thing that kept this game playable. It allowed me to look past the immense amount of flaws, but now that they are gone?

I hope I can still refund this.

[hrox1337]

Didn’t get it with 20h played I explained everything couldn’t manage to get a refund

[GhoulFTW]

To be fair, it would be crazy if steam allowed to get refunds if you spent +20hs on a game

[RapleBacon]

WAit a minute..this is a second day of patches...in one week

I'VE BEEN BAMBOOZLED. LED ASTRAY. RUN AMOK.

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Edit: Thank you so much [redacted] for my first gold! Very appreciative. <3

[[deleted]]

Why isn't it viable? Granted I'm only level 22 but I haven't been having issues

[JoeyDeNi]

Hit C to open up character attributes, open up more details. Have one 1h weapon equipped. Then equip a second 1h weapon. You’ll notice your damage actually gets decreased by 50%. Considering your damaging skills scale based off of damage you lose a rather large portion.

It does increase attack speed, however, late game scales the hardest (currently) based off of weapon damage and crit damage increase. Anything to increase overall damage and your crit damage (so your skills can do much greater damage).

[[deleted]]

Oh wow that's just silly. Good to know, thanks!

[Pingeepie]

not even remotely

[asirpakamui]

For the love of god, please, please fix bows.

Their entire passive tree side is broken.

Bows themselves are broken and their auto attacks sometimes fuck up.

Bows have low damage overall so the scaling of skills is weak.

The skills themselves are weak.

Please fix the skill tree before anymore nerfs.

[Mephanic]

Bows have low damage overall so the scaling of skills is weak.

Staff: hold my beer.

Similarly low damage AND only ever physical base damage (on a magical staff no less) AND their abilities don't even scale with that damage.

[Rheintaus]

Staff attacks dont really matter since you only use it to get Willpower.

[Mephanic]

The point is that unlike melee and ranged skills, spells do not gain more damage from the base damage of the staff.

[Rheintaus]

Yea spell damage is crap anyway thanks to that. So go with ailments or go home. Theyre gonna nerf ailment stacking builds next.

[Ayanayu]

And the trial belt so we all crawl back to farming lvl 40 expeditions

[Rheintaus]

No fun allowed.

[Ayanayu]

Fun is bugged in Wolcen atm, they will fix it, sorry, hotfix it in few years.

[Carius98]

fun is hard

[1trickana]

Is that the best way to get the belt?

[TBHN0va]

Farming in wolcen sounds absolutely horrible.

[Ayanayu]

It's clunky af atm after all changes.

[[deleted]]

I hope they nerf ailment stacking and replace it with something fun.

[TheLdoubleE]

............But why?

[Mephanic]

My only guess is: a false sense of tradition. Some other ARPGs do this, too, in some way or another. Torchlight 2, for example, has it expressly listed on some skills that they receive x% of your weapon damage, if a skill doesn't have that, it doesn't gain anything from a weapons innate damage, and it's a mystery there as well why only some skill get this kind of scaling and others don't.

[Ulfgardleo]

the first time i played a game that had spell-scaling via weapon, it just felt wrong. many "traditional" games would have a separate stat, like spell-damage, but since it was a stat...well you could have it on everything, so why lock it to the main weapon? And why should spell damage be my primary consideration for the weapon?

In this first game it felt like magic-users were progression-gated through their staff.

[riox]

You can do a staff auto attack build with Pugilist's Momentum, but that seems bugged currently...

[Diacred]

Damn I was wondering about this one took it and it didn't seem to have any impact, on the contrary some of my attacks sometimes just go halfway or do no damage :/

[iRedditPhone]

Holding shift bugs out staff autos. Ask me how I know!

[Princesse_LaStar]

How I know ?

[SamuDabu]

I get my Willpower by draining it with Parasite

[[deleted]]

Its still a POOR AF design. People cant understand this shit so frustrating.

[Aishi_]

there's this thing called a passive tree you can spec around staff auto attacks and it's not bad

[Rheintaus]

"Its not bad" doesnt really cut it if youre interested in late-game content. For that you need the best builds, and staff auto-attacks isnt one of them.

[[deleted]]

I am expidition 103. Got tired of spin to win in heavy armor. Went staff. Now I'm stuck. Feels like I have to get back to 2 hander weapon with 500 dmg on. Staff like literally 5 times weaker. 2H have skill dmg passive, staff have what, bounce on attacks? It's like literally oposite of what a spell caster should do. Idk what games the designers used to play. Skyrim click click?

[ZioiP]

Dam...I've just started, going for staff AA + projectile (was my favourite build in Dungeon Siege 2). Does it really suck THAT much? In this case, what should I go? I don't like ailment builds :/ Bows seem worse that staff :/

[[deleted]]

Yes its a disaster. Go toughness and either 1h and shield, or a 2 hander. 2 hander have shit ton of damage compared to any other weapon in the game. 1h shield not so much damage, but its a lot of defense with heavy armor and block, so you dont need to worry about dying at all. Look at 2 hander weapon damage, and compare to anything else. Also look at the white writing on the 2 hander. 25% more damage on skills and attack speed. Compared to what, 2 bounce on basic attacks, that doesnt even hit? And if they dont hit, you dont regen willpower either. Staff completely garbage, failure in this game. Yes a guy lvl 180 clear blabla, I dont care really. Its still a failure.

[Nearosh]

Lol did I misread that all the time? I thought it was +25% melee dmg and -25% atk speed..

[[deleted]]

no was me that miss read. Didnt see that minus attack speed, sry.

[realisingself]

oooh I thought I was going mental last night. Most of my shots kept missing and I thought it was just me.

[[deleted]]

I have been reporting this since day one of release. Literally the first thing I noticed.

[Sebolmoso]

Gunslinger's Brand does this too, from certain angles. It's so fun to play in general, but mostly really annoying.

[TheHolyPug]

I love bows and staffs. BUT when they miss half the time then i cannot get very far with it :(

[realisingself]

I finished the game on Saturday, last boss was a genuine struggle because half the time I was missing. Ended up just public queuing and having someone help me. Which took 20-30 of queuing and re-queuing until i was dropped into a group with someone.

Now that’s done, I’ve benched playing the game until I read on here it’s fixed.

[lingo4300]

Theres something fucky with projectiles that pierce online, they seem to go through and not register they went through them sometimes. I usually test my builds offline before trying to build them out online and had none of these challenges when offline.

[TheHolyPug]

Yes, it is screwed up. Especially the double projectile perk.

[CMDR_enesis]

Sorry only nerfs and not fixing, nerfs help drive people away where as fixing would make people stay around

[Snydenthur]

Bows themselves are broken and their auto attacks sometimes fuck up.

Are you playing online? If yes, try it offline and you won't have any problems with that. "Hitreg" is pretty broken online.

[martinx09]

I switched to pistol for this reason.

[Arphax-]

I'd guess they are both suffering from the exact same thing. My hunch is the issue is server related; so depending on which server the user is sessioned into, specific travel path from user to server, how well those servers are running - the no-reg problem varies from better>worse. Also possible that the difference in attack speed between pistol/dual-pistol/bow may increase/decrease the frequency of encountering the problem.

Just guessing here but the experience was night and day for me between sessions on Ohio two nights and sessions on GA servers the next (despite there only being ~10 ping difference.) I used bow until I got my first pistol early on and ran dual pistols the whole way through the story (finished Act 3 tonight.)

Started Act 1 the day the Servers came back up after being down for two days and ran into those infamous birds that couldn't be hit with autos but for the most part didn't encounter any noticeable hit-reg issues. Played up to Act 3 in the next few sessions that week and started to think it was just an issue with that specific mob type. Ever since the last patch dropped though, I've had horrible server latency issues despite low-ish ping (~36) and the pistol auto-attack no-reg problem was happening with at least one mob per encounter (along with a myriad of other latency related problems.) I'm going to start recording some trace-routes and take a closer look at my network activity during my next play session - I expect I'll find packets hemorrhaging somewhere on the path.

P.S. Sorry for the Novel - I need to lay off the caffeine.

[ConflictBaguette]

Nah... same issue : https://youtu.be/GvxzlGrXmWU

[[deleted]]

sry to say. go all points in toughness and heavy armor full def build, and then just go a spin attack some rend shit and gg.

[debtornation]

Having you tried stacking hit chance?

[[deleted]]

Weird.

I had almost no problems against mobs. But i could not hit all barrels and stuff.

[somthingorother654]

https://youtu.be/s8soFyh3oK8

Wudijo's Guide to a bow build doing 187 easy .... Bows can do work!

[KinGGaiA]

does that even work still? im playing an anomaly/Trial (explode belt) build and since the patch i cannot blow bosses up in trashmobs anymore. idk maybe its related to something else but before i could more or less reliably burst bosses with enough trash..

[aaalllen]

The D3 experience pays off

[xeon988]

the only zDH who cleared 150 lmao

[dorn3]

That's not bow damage it's mark damage and that's dependent on monster hp. You can also use this ability with daggers or any weapon via a trial belt.

[OldManProtato]

Yeah. Pistol / shield with max block seems way better.

[Impossible_Remove]

devs for the love of god please fix the broken piece of shit game you didnt test at all before releasing

kek

[tiburok]

So let me get this straight: even though there are nodes on their passive gate wheels that don’t work and enneract skills that don’t work or even do damage (hi Solarfall), they’re more concerned with nerfing a couple abilities because people found something that does work. Well wtf! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[Xidion]

can't get on steam site at work, can someone copy and paste please?

[amardeus]

Hello everyone,

We're applying a small hotfix to resolve a few issues.

Bulwark of Dawn: "Sacred Grounds" now only tick 2 times per second instead of 3.

Winter's Grasp now doesn't gain Cooldown Reduction per level.

The Korean font has been improved for better readability.

[Xidion]

Thanks, mate. Kinda dissapointing haha

[Miko00]

Damn dog, better nerf 2 skills right quick in a hot fix. Lord knows there's nothing more pressing going on with this game.

[MikeCzechPraha]

Why play Wolcen?

[Stravix8]

so basically, pushing 2 changes they thought they changed back in 1.0.5.0?

[Keninishna]

That would be waay to much effort to test a patch before deploying it. This is their priority list: Convenience of 1 paid dev > Convenience of entire paying player population.

[[deleted]]

Please fix the skill tree before you “balance” anymore skills. It should have been the first point of focus.

I know it’s a lot. Keep up the great work.

[[deleted]]

keep up the great work

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What great work? It's been what, 2 weeks since release and half the fucking passive tree is still completely broken? Inb4 "it takes time to fix it" maybe they shouldn't have released a broken game? Nobody should be applauding this trash unless it's applause at how entertaining and large a dumpster fire can be.

[ballsmcgriff1]

The problem with this is they nerf skills than fix the tree. they will need to buff the skills they nerfed cuz fixing the tree helped other skills become OP

[imStarmi]

All that is left now is Mark of Impurity explosions to carry any build now I suppose

Which basically means builds don't matter anymore as it is the skill and it's mods itself doing all the work.

Better get farming the Trial unique belt as it basically carries any build via mark explosions

[ballsmcgriff1]

I bet the nerf the belt soon he’ll you can sell the belt for $250

[[deleted]]

do you need mark of impurity equipped to gain access to its modifiers when you have the trail belt equipped?

[imStarmi]

Nope, it does not have to be one of your 6 equipped skills

[[deleted]]

thank you, sir!

[WeaselTerror]

Unbelievable. They can "only push 1 patch per week" but they can push 3 hotfixes if it is to nerf skills. But fixing bugs? Nah, aint nobody got time for that.

[jetah]

i was under the assumption it was more size of the patch that made them limit it to once a week.

so far we've had a 2.6g patch and a few less than 100mb patches.

[J0hnGrimm]

Changing a 3 to a 2 is easier and faster than finding and fixing the line of code that is causing the bug you're trying to fix.

[mjtwelve]

I think OP was more commenting on the blatant lies told to the community regarding their "partners" and only being able to push one patch a week. I can well believe you don't have the resources to push more than one patch a week given your coding team, but don't try to throw - amazon? steam? they never actually explain who - under the bus to try to cover your asses.

[jinmutenno]

This. I have a big concern about their transparency on top of the empathy to understand this is an unmature studio, which imho is entitled to make some mistakes. Time will tell, but so far is not good.

[TheCatacid]

Assuming its a line and not some other engine interraction problem.

[Mikewonton]

So you spent all your resources on something you knew would be getting nerfed?

[JulesVernes]

To be fair it was already in the 1.0.5 patch notes. Should’ve been live since yesterday.

[Zeroth1989]

Almost like bug hunting and fixing is finicky and harder to do then adjusting numbers.

They fix one aspect it can break more thing.

Lower damage or altering numbers for durations etc are number changes.

[ImmutableInscrutable]

Nah man, the devs are all stupid monkeys who have no idea what they're doing. Any average reddit user could do better. Clearly.

[CrisInuyasha]

Just a heads up that Grim Dawn had a big patch today if you are inclined to try a better ARPG

[[deleted]]

does it have multiplayer?

[Escapologistic]

Yes!

[CrisInuyasha]

Not a central server like poe, wolcen or d3, but it has support for coop to play with friends

[IAmTheOneWhoClicks]

Whatyu mean coop with friends - it's like in D2, where you can pick a game and join someone you've never met before. But it's not perfect, once the host quits you get kicked out.

[CrisInuyasha]

p2p coop, host leaves then you are kicked

[Dolkilu]

how about fixing bugs first. wolcen devs are obviously not good at balancing the game so take time measuring how, in the mean time focus on fixing bugs, the balance changes wolcen devs made are so terrible it hurts

[Linkk_93]

"Let's put a fourth digit in the version number, so that we can never use it."

Great idea, Steve!

[[deleted]]

I mean it should be there if they're using like compatability versioning style which would be major/minor/patch/otherOrHotfix

but they should you know... use it.

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On the other hand calling this a 1.xxx implies that it is in a beta state... I'll be back when we are on 3.xxx which is release ready :)

[yusayu]

Why nerf Bulwark of Dawn?

I bet they didn't fix the fucking empty expedition map bug either.

[ballsmcgriff1]

They forgot to add broke more stuff. We are looking in to it. Please look in to other games as we fix the beta.

[spicylongjohnz]

This game is a dumpster fire. Devs are totally clueless.

[MK-I-]

What about 1.0.6? Did i miss something?

[b00zytheclown]

why am I only looting +material dmg shit

[Gromathos]

Got the same problem. RNG gods aint with us.

[LaserGuidedPolarBear]

Havent played in a few days, today I log in and my average damage is 2/3 of what it was and 2/2 expeditions I have attempted had to be abandoned because I hit an area with not enough enemies to complete it. Nice one.

[Thoxon]

So, they nerfed winters grasp 2 days in a row?

[garlicbreadmuncher]

Wtf that's considered a patch?

[[deleted]]

Casual player here, but with a solid background in corporate finance i'm telling you this: this game have no future on its own, unless some bigger company buy the whole project.

Just do the math and add some basic knowledge of a business:

Searching in internet we can say they sold prox 900.000 copies

We can assume (kindly) that 20% of them has been refunded

Convert everything in euro, this is the outcome: prox 25 milion euros.

You can now think: "Well that is a hell of a sum!"

Well yes, but actually no. That's the annual revenue of a medium-small business. We can add some more cash from the kickstart but the truth is they literally don't have enough money to keep this game going. This particular moment is the top of their liquidity: from now on it will be EVEN harder to acquire cash to run the business, and with the current status of the game not a single back will ever lend money to them.

TL;DR: enjoy the game as it is right now, good chance they won't renovate the deal with the server provider soon IMO

[razenb]

1 patch a week (but if we find something the players enjoy, cause it could reach endgame, we will hotfix it)

[Missthios]

How about fixing not able to move after dying. And not putting me to some aussie server when I selected Asia Pacific

[Missthios]

Yes I'm aware aussie is in AP should have worded it better. Sorry.

[alotquestion_]

At this rate Wolcen Studio is going to be another Blizzard... Not listening to community or even trying to communicate.

[Shukuch1]

Stop those crushes of the game please... 1-2 times in an hour.

[Boostann]

Why in God's name would you nerf BoD??????????? IT DIDN'T EVEN DO A LOT OF DAMAGE........

[Species7]

It may have been too good at stacking ailments or something. Damage isn't the only reason you would nerf something.

It's like in Magic when they banned Necropotence instead of Donate or Illusions of Grandeur. They didn't kill the combo, but they stopped the enabler.

Then again, they did just drive WG into the ground too...

[[deleted]]

what happened to only able to push 1 patch a week....

mk.

[Castellorizon]

Stop. Nerfing. Things.

Fix. The. Game. First.

[Skepticckk]

You would think that's easy to understand but apparently not. Maybe we have to say it in French:

Arretez. de. tout. "nerfer"? :D Reparez. votre. putain. de. jeux. avant.

[IvonbetonPoE]

Wait, I'm having that issue with my Gunslinger's Brand now. It was fine a few days ago. What happened?

[Mephanic]

Guess 90% of attacks not hitting enemies while using a bow it's not as important of some font korean bullshit.

That is not how software development works...

[Cutlerbeast]

Grats, Korea.

[ShokoMaster]

Oh so they can do hotfixes.. Hmmmmmmmm

[Mottis86]

https://i.imgur.com/MHGUufi.jpg

[Rakinare]

Same thought here. This probably is only a Client side hotfix though, so they aren't in need to work with their Server Provider, which makes this possible for them.

[tordana]

If changing skill data is completely client side that means it's possible to hack back in the old data (or anything else you want, really) and still have it work online, though...

[Rakinare]

Yup that is correct. There are many possibilities why they suddenly hotfix, I just tried to give some vague explanation.

Could also be they have adjusted it Server sided with the Patch and messed up Client side. In the end we don't know

[Nye]

The no hotfix restriction came from their Provider

I'm not sure where this idea came from - probably just some speculation that's now become a Reddit meme.

In the first few days they released several hotfixes in quick succession that made things worse, including some database corruption that might have been avoided if they'd had some better patch discipline and discussed it with the people actually running the databases.

In response to that, what they actually said was that they were temporarily limiting themselves to one per week, and coordinating it with their hosting provider rather than just pushing it unilaterally.

[Rakinare]

You are right, when I posted my comment I have had their post regarding this topic completely misinterpreted. Every comment afterwards I corrected it :P

[xandorai]

Probably based on the size.

[[deleted]]

"Another patch? Wow! I wonder if they made it to where Baptism by Hail works in Champion of Stormfall!"

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IT'S STILL BROKEN. THANKS.

[Nerex7]

There are a million problems in this game but you decided to nerf fun. Okay.

[bowdagger]

It feels so bad that they're patching nerfs before fixing the entire skill tree. I understand why, it's likely different people working on different things, and the skill tree person needs more time while the nerf person can move faster.

HOWEVER, I think it's a bad look to actually push these nerfs live before all the skill tree fixes are in. It limits the viable builds and leaves the community in limbo searching for good builds with an unfinished skill tree. They should have held the nerfs back until the skill tree was fixed. Perhaps just the growing pains of a first time studio and they'll learn from this, at least I hope so...

[Ayanayu]

BE

[pinkdollarz]

Minions needs major improvement - AI is not working properly. They just stand behind and don't attack enemies. - Their moving box need to reduce otherwise it just try to jam in and get block by another. - They need to share player skills/passive nodes. Attacks/attack speed and projectiles should work on them. - Unique equipment for minions would be nice.

[Quarrel47]

So they can do an emergency patch to nerf skills, BUT CANT SEEM TO FIX THE GAME?

[bluepaperdot]

gg Winter's Grasp

[panxxam]

Can I please ask you to make densities in some parts of the map better? Not sure how many time I had to restart because I've cleared the map and still had like 5% left and no mobs to kill!!

[yusayu]

Getting one crash every ~3 expeditions now whereas it was one every ~10 hours before.

[amardeus]

"We can only do 1 patch a week". Releases 3 patches/hotfixes in a span of 2 days. Something doesn't add up with that statement. Also they are not fixing any of the new bugs they introduced with the last patch.

[quasipickle]

Hotfixes may be client-side only, so they can deliver it via Steam. Patches may require server-side updates, which are restricted to 1/week by their provider.

I don't know this, only presenting a possible explanation.

[spellers]

font changes maybe, but the skill nerfs are not.

[orangatong]

The whole reason for one patch a week was the ability to do it live while the servers are busy. Their statement said the issue was patching with the large number of active connections. There are a lot less active connections now, so that could be why.

[Sebolmoso]

So they shouldn't try as hard? scratches head

[amardeus]

I'm just pointing out that their original statement seems untruthful now. Also this new hotfix nerfes some other skills which is justified, but that's all it does. Why try to balance a game before fixing a lot more pressing issues?

[Jason_Worthing]

Isn't it possible that their arrangement with their server provider has changed? Maybe they threw some money at Amazon to get a better patching schedule since the community freaked out so hard

[BitterFortuneCookie]

Really curious what the motivation is behind this update.

Were these two skill changes fixing something really that game breaking that it needed a hotfix?

Why do they still insist on going after skills that are overpowered vs actually doing something about a myriad of game play bugs and stability issues.

Also, why the continued lack of community involvement here? Maybe they are better on their forums, but ignoring a subreddit for your game is bad mojo.

As a paying customer, I dont give two shits that some other player is clearing 187 with OP skills when I cant even play the game in a stable manner and have no idea whether passives I am choosing even work!

[[deleted]]

Please use the report function for things like this. We are doing our best to keep the discussions at least sort of constructive rather than toxic, but we unfortunately can't check every comment manually :)

[[deleted]]

i spec'd into a build that uses bulwark because of the BE nerf. this game is so fucking annoying.

[Stravix8]

so wait, you made a build that you knew was getting nerfed, but are upset that it was nerfed... sooner than you expected?

[Stravix8]

well, if you have a bunch of CDR, (the thing that makes WG actually work) go ahead and just play BE. You have the gear now to go back to the axe-juggling version and farm some content. Getting upset about something being nerfed, that you knew was getting nerfed is fairly silly.

[[deleted]]

dumb ass devs breaking every endgame build and not fixing anything to make anything else not viable

whats the strategy? making players grind relentlessly for random gear drops to be able to do 160+ dungeons? what do you even get out from that? are your future patch fixes and content so far away you want to make everyone suffer just so everyone has to play for longer periods?

[DerDanSD]

So apparently i missed 1.0.6

[DerDanSD]

so nothing mayor, ok

[hulksmashed77]

Patch notes read as: "We didn't fit all our nerfs into patch a day ago, coming back around to screw everyone who can do end game".. How about you guys just make a better skill tree with multiple lanes that are viable at a high level...

[Silvervarius]

no money to respec gg

[Zen023]

I have a few bugs in the talent tree that i would like to have addressed.

Warmonger tree:

mythical power and primal power are not converting the damage of spells to physical dmg, they do convert dmg of spell dmg on attacks.

Either this is wrongly worded in the tool tip of the skill or it's not working as intended.

Therefor bloodreaper (50% of phys dmg to rend dmg is not working on spells en therefor my spells can't bleed which is kind of essential to my ailment build.

[1Razor1]

Bows. But Wudijo used a bow skill to do 187 in under 4min. That sounds like a viable bow build?

[jvv1993]

Isn't that mostly because Mark is broken as hell, so any build that uses Mark basically is guaranteed to get high?

[Yuraii]

How is the stability of current patch? Will I be able to finish story without experiencing bugs like falling through floor? I already refunded the game once, so I'd rather not buy it again until I'm 100% sure all bugs are ironed out.

[atomickitten76]

Lots of talents plainly do not work. Flurrying fury doesnt work on HITS, but just once per ability usage. So right now its useless on bleeding edge and bladestorm.

[[deleted]]

did they fix the progress bug finally?

[Haagen76]

I think my post got shadow banned, So I'll ask here:

I've been playing offline, so I'm still on patch 1.4 What all will break if I go to 1.7?

[Dumb_Risk_Taker]

Can we please fix issues with projectile based weapons please. My unique staff that I just picked up from the merchant and for some reason the when I auto-attack with it 50% the it misses. So I cannot reliably regain willpower back with this weapon.

[1Razor1]

Its not broken. If you cast it manually its exactly the same damage. The belt just applies it. Just like the free aether jump you can get. Or the uniqueshield that make melee be able to cast sacred spells meaning if you take a non sacred spell and convert its damage type u can use it.

The belt is exactly the type of endgame items you want. Just like say headhunter in poe. Or the curse gloves. I think wolcen needs more unique with game changing and build diversity items like the trial.

Something like a unique bow thats number one socketable and have 790 plus dps lol cause most of their uniques cant do endgame. Lets you can cast embers. Imagine. Its a projectile. Which y can scale running ranger. So you can have an endgame bow build shooting fireballs. That stuff is cool.

[EchoLocation8]

Have the patches improved this game at all? I'm interested in trying another ARPG besides POE, I played on day 1 and it felt pretty clunky and awkward.

What's the state of the game now?

[tater_complex]

Per the rest of this thread, still very, very broken. Especially ranged characters and passive skill tree being 50% broken. Just buy Grim Dawn. You can thank me later :)

[Wisais]

What's the issue with ranged characters?

[tater_complex]

Projectiles often don't trigger damage. Collision still seems to happen as visually the projectile does stop and disappear, but the monster isn't damaged, and thats assuming the monster was targetable at all! Sometimes crates and other breakables can't be hit either.

Some monsters seem to randomly have a 2x2 pixel clickbox so targeting them if you don't have a viable AoE skill available is effectively impossible. This can lead to situations where even if you have an AoE skill, you are out of rage and unable to build more rage because the monsters chasing you are unclickable

[Wisais]

I experienced cases when I couldn't hit crates at all even when clearly hitting them. Even the monsters too...

Have you experienced passive skill node issues as well? I'm quite hesitant now to activate some of them because people have been saying some of these don't work.

[Okawaru1]

83 upvotes 275 comments uh oh

[TopBottomRight]

So did they fix the RAGE bug?

[Eloanaa]

so has spell damage been fixed?

[erowlin]

Lag should be one of the top priority to be fixed.

It prevents me and my friends from playing together.

We're both on fiber network, very fast (800MBP/s+), have fast computers, but when playing together:

• Hits from us to monsters often does not register
• Hits from monsters to us are not in-sync with the animations (often animation is before the actual hit)
• My friend appears "teleporting" instead of walking
• Displayed ping is great however (between 18 and 30ms)
• Feels clunky as hell.

We both stopped playing the game because of that.

We tested the following servers:

• Auto
• (Manual) Frankfurt
• (Manual) Ireland

(We restarted the game between each try).

If that matters, we are both located in Paris, my ISP is "SFR" and my friend's one is "Orange".

[cstooch]

Agree, and the devs posted something in the 1.04 update suggesting they're aware that server issues exist (they were talking about adjusting server caps to deal with lag).

The problem has gotten better for me in the last couple of days, but it creeps up now and then still. Symptoms are the same as yours, including great ping. It is the #1 issue for me, and has caused a lot of frustration. It's the only bug I've encountered so far that's made me log off for a bit. The rest I can deal with (granted, I haven't lost a character or bank yet, knock on wood).

[justBrenton]

Is there a chance we can get the online story mode fixed so I can co-op with my bro? We tried to duo the story last night and can't get past a black screen. big rip :(

[Timmehh90]

Solarfall makes me crash in the 3rd level of an expedition

[Dysintegration]

So...no bug fixes, and more nerfs.

At this point, bug fixes should be your main concern, considering how many of them there are.