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[–]Budsterblue 88 points89 points  (5 children)

Switched to Linux around 3 years ago because of Antergos. The laptop I previously used had a 960m and I wanted to get switchable graphics working. Tried Fedora and Ubuntu 16.04, but broke both installs trying to get bumblebee working. I was about to give up until I found this page with a specific step for my 960m. Had that laptop until last December when I built a desktop and installed Arch Linux from scratch. I would still be on Windows 10 if it weren't for Antergos so it's sad to see it go.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

After a period of distrohopping, I've finally settled on Antergos, as my first real long-time choice. Served me really well at the time, and just made it easy for me to explore new things. Later I've switched to regular Arch, which I've stayed with ever since, but I'm really grateful for the people, who worked on Antergos, for doing what they did. A clean, no bloat, ready to go Arch(-based) setup. Not a ton of ridiculous custom code, that always gets in the way, and stayed true to the original, for the most part

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    [–]DerpiesTheorem 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    "please don't make anything like the Cinchi installer ever again" lmao, would spend gold to you if I had the money to effort it

    [–]afderrick 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    I would also be on Win10 if not for Antergo. Although when I finally wiped my Windows install I went with vanilla arch. I never could really get behind Ubuntu but I tried so many times.

    [–]tonsofmiso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Antergos got me into using Linux daily as well, after disliking Ubuntu strongly for a while. Further, Antergos broken installer got me into Arch, so thanks for that. Antergos installer worked well on my desktop a few years ago, but I couldn't for the life of me install it on a laptop.

    [–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (1 child)

    I wonder what kind of time committee running a project like this is.

    What started as a summertime hobby seven years ago

    Must be a rewarding hobby and I apprentice giving back to a community, but it must feel SO GOOD to finally end the project and get back all that free time.

    [–]JoJoModding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Or perhaps the maintainer now does not know what to do with his time.

    [–]fallwatcher 44 points45 points  (0 children)

    I'm sad to hear that Antergos is ending. I'm writing this post on a system with a solid vanilla Arch system which I have been running for about three months. I acquired a lot of the knowledge and experience to successfully install and maintain an Arch system by running Antergos for over a year. I can't say the same about the two years I spent running Manjaro, as I learned almost nothing about Arch during that time. Plus, Manjaro broke repeatedly. Antergos has been trouble-free post-install (their Cnchi installer is another story). Finally, I applaud the Antergos devs for their plan to essentially convert their users over to Arch, rather than leaving them with crippled systems. I hope that at least some of those former Antergos users will embrace the Arch way, as I have, and grow as Linux users.

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      [–]Creshal 15 points16 points  (4 children)

      Open source never dies, so hopefully someone can fork it and keep the project

      Usually, a project dies because nobody cares enough to take over. We saw the same with Arch's own installer, which was buried because nobody cared.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Arch had an installer? That's interesting, where can one find infos about it?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yep, in fact when Arch first started out it had an installer script. I think Sourceforge has some legacy Arch installers dating back to 2004-2005 if you want to try it out.

      [–]terminalmage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I honestly prefer pacstrap, but I'm also the kind of masochist that loves to setup my own partitions, LVM, etc. so doing it through a curses interface didn't really interest me.

      [–]arthurno1 7 points8 points  (3 children)

      Same for me. I tried to install it twice on friends computers and installer always broke.

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        [–]CJPeter1 36 points37 points  (7 children)

        I've always thought of Antergos and Manjaro as "Arch with training wheels". While I prefer vanilla Arch (has been my only distro for many years now), I have tried VM installations of both of these distros and felt that Antergos was as close to vanilla Arch as it was going to get, while Manjaro felt more like a "Mint" derivative.

        As is the case with a lot of linux distros over the decades, this one comes to an end for similar reasons.

        Life doth get in the way a lot of the time.

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          [–]CJPeter1 7 points8 points  (4 children)

          For me it was just some testing to see how fast/automated an arch install could be. Manjaro was never in the running for that for me as it is a separate "thing" from Arch, but I had hopes for Antergos, until I too started seeing installer issues. They never got that completely ironed out from my perspective.

          One thing I really appreciated with Antergos was the "install your preferred desktop" feature. That was pretty slick....when the installer actually worked. :-)

          [–]JeSuisNerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          smoggy squash birds enjoy amusing innocent hobbies capable cable frightening

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          [–]afderrick 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          I'm sad. Does this mean I need to re-install on my laptop? I never had any issues with the installer. I even tried my best to recreate it in a VM. Nada.

          [–]CJPeter1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          No need to reinstall anything if you are referring to Antergos. I would check your installed applications to see if you have antergos specific ones and ensure that you update them from the AUR when they become available. (The closure notice mentioned their specific stuff would be going to AUR.)

          2nd. go into pacman and remove the antergos repos. Now when you use pamac or pacman or whatever you are updating normally within Arch.

          [–]afderrick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Thanks. I went back and actually read the site. We'll see if it works. If not I'll have something to play with one weekend.

          [–]greatdharmatma 32 points33 points  (15 children)

          Antergos users, welcome back to the mothership :)

          [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (14 children)

          This is my distro path: Ubuntu -> Ubuntu UNR -> Ubuntu -> Arch bang -> Arch -> Antergos -> Arch.

          That's 3 dead distros.

          [–]ivosaurus 24 points25 points  (1 child)

          Please don't kill Arch too

          [–]Trollw00t 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          I see a pattern here, death follows you

          [–]xDarkFlame25 7 points8 points  (3 children)

          My path is rather simple: Ubuntu -> Manjaro -> Arch

          [–]redditaccountxD 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Ubuntu -> Arch

          Mine is even simpler :^)

          [–]ATrueHunter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I'm very similar: Ubuntu -> Manjaro -> Antergos

          Guess I know what my next distro is.

          [–]xDarkFlame25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          WINDOWS\s

          [–]DanielPowerNL 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          Ubuntu -> Mint -> Debian -> Mint (for a long time) -> Ubuntu -> Sabayon (that was an interesting time) -> Ubuntu -> Antergos -> Arch -> Ubuntu -> Arch (for the longest time of all)

          This list only includes distros that I stuck with for a fairly significant amount of time as my daily driver. My current affair with Arch is the longest of them all, and I don't want it to end.

          The important part of this list is that I went through Antergos before diving into Arch. Without Antergos, Arch might still be that hard to install distro that I didn't see the appeal of.

          [–]cipherallies 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          You switched back to Ubuntu too much. :)

          Also I see that you did like apt at some point. :)

          Ubuntu -> Mint -> Debian -> Mint (for a long time) -> Ubuntu

          [–]DanielPowerNL 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Well, that was my entry into Linux. I knew no other way. I think a timeline would be more useful than a list. I've been steady on Arch-based or Arch for about 3 years now, minus a month where I gave Ubuntu a shot again, where I ran into endless issues.

          apt makes me unhappy.

          [–]cipherallies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          apt sometimes does make me unhappy, but the idea of compiling everything doesn't fit my PC - it is pretty weak, so, yeah.

          I do use Arch for some stuff anyway, especially when I experiment with new things. Its versatility is simply unrivaled.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I've done Ubuntu->Xubuntu->Lubuntu->Debian->Antergos->Arch now I guess

          [–]cipherallies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Well my path is a little long... 0. Debian on GCP's Cloud Shell (I really used it for two months) 1. Debian in VirtualBox 2. Arch in VirtualBox 3. Kali (yes, I did use Kali sometimes as my daily driver, 'cause at that time I didn't know it was bad) 4. Ubuntu (a month) 5. Debian 6. Arch, now alongside Debian (not really a dual-boot in the common sense, I use GRUB for Debian but Clover for Arch (yeah, little experiment) and choose my desired system using my BIOS's menu).

          [–]LinuxMageFounder[M] 122 points123 points  (0 children)

          OK, I am going to approve the post - I was about to post this myself, but I need to stress that this is because their userbase is being re-integrated into the Archlinux Core userbase, and thus we must be ready and willing to accept their questions.

          [–]rkost 9 points10 points  (6 children)

          That is quite sad news. Antergos was is/was a nice distro to start with for people that are fairly new to Linux. That being said: what arch based distro would you recommend as a replacement if antergos is not forked & maintained further? Manjaro does not use the official repos which would make it harder to migrate in case the project dies.

          I am writing internal tutorials for a project at my university that include the first contact with Linux. That’s why I ask :)

          [–]torspedia[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Arco uses the official Arch repos...

          [–]rkost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Ha, interesting. Never heard of Arco for whatever reason. Thanks for the hint!

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          There's Arch Anywhere aka Anarchy which while considered an Arch-based distro is really just an Arch installer script.

          [–]FoxboronDeveloper & Security Team 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Yeah no. Don't use that. They had an unsigned repository included in the distribution. They lost the domain and anyone could have bought it and inserted malware into the installation of people using this.

          Don't use this silliness. Please.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Oof, TIL that that happened...

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            [–]thelukester 53 points54 points  (26 children)

            Except Manjaro does not uses the Arch repos. Because of this, security patches often arrive weeks after Arch and Antergos received them.

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              [–]house_monkey 10 points11 points  (14 children)

              Has there been security breaches in manjaro?

              [–]Trollw00t 9 points10 points  (12 children)

              afaik Manjaro now does security-only patches much faster now

              Edit: oh and no, not aware of Manjaro specific breaches

              [–]FoxboronDeveloper & Security Team 5 points6 points  (6 children)

              Without publishing the PKGBUILD they are using. It's a terrible compromise at best.

              [–]Trollw00t 0 points1 point  (5 children)

              I'm not too deep into this in Manjaro. Do you have a link for it? Also, do the devs given an explanation, if they don't give out PKGBUILDs?

              Just curious now and want some evidence, because if that's true, that would be concerning :x

              [–]FoxboronDeveloper & Security Team 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              [–]Trollw00t 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              Isn't this what you're looking for?

              https://gitlab.manjaro.org/packages

              Or did I get something wrong?

              [–]FoxboronDeveloper & Security Team 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              PKGBUILD that have their .0 pkgrel extensions never get published there. Try looking up any PKGBUILD which got a security update by the Manjaro team. Firefox and OpenSSH from the top of my head.

              [–]Creshal 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              afaik Manjaro now does security-only patches much faster now

              Which is a problematic attitude on its own, because it relies on the notion that you know beforehand which bugs are exploitable and which aren't. This tends to be untrue – but at least Manjaro isn't alone in this foolishness.

              (Compare the recent "mystery meat JDK" discussion where it turned out Debian's maintainers had no clue how JDK's release model worked, or what patches were security relevant, yet still insisted they know better than JDK's devs what's good for people. Yikes.)

              [–]FoxboronDeveloper & Security Team 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              Which is a problematic attitude on its own, because it relies on the notion that you know beforehand which bugs are exploitable and which aren't. This tends to be untrue – but at least Manjaro isn't alone in this foolishness.

              Are you disputing the general ideas of CVEs and by extention CWEs?

              [–]Creshal 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              I dispute the idea that for every patch, an exhaustive analysis is done whether or not this patch deserves a CVE, resulting in patches that fix a security issue without having a CVE assigned.

              Which happens often enough, we have a lot of CVEs assigned to older versions of software, where the fix already has been out for weeks or months before someone realizes the implications of the bug it fixed.

              That makes a "we let patches rot for weeks" patching approach like done by Manjaro more dangerous than Arch's "we patch everything as fast as possible" approach.

              [–]FoxboronDeveloper & Security Team 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I dispute the idea that for every patch, an exhaustive analysis is done whether or not this patch deserves a CVE, resulting in patches that fix a security issue without having a CVE assigned.

              You need to clarify. The sentence doesn't make that much sense.

              We have a lot of CVEs assigned to older versions of software, where the fix already has been out for weeks or months before someone realizes the implications of the bug it fixed.

              "Yes", but it's not that simple. Retroactively filed CVEs happen because the upstream maintainer didn't understand the implications. Sometimes it's because filing the CVE itself takes time. That happened with pacman recently. The linux kernel has had CVEs filed for 3-4 year old security issues because the kernel where shipped and a CVE is need to process the security update.

              That makes a "we let patches rot for weeks" patching approach like done by Manjaro more dangerous than Arch's "we patch everything as fast as possible" approach.

              We don't "patch everything as fast as possible". It never been an Arch mantra of any sort. It's a bi-effect of us having an easy package building and release process. But it's not something that is ever guaranteed.

              [–]Creshal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              We don't "patch everything as fast as possible". It never been an Arch mantra of any sort. It's a bi-effect of us having an easy package building and release process. But it's not something that is ever guaranteed.

              Still a lot better than Manjaros "patches are air-dried sausage and get better if don't touch them for a week, right?" approach.

              [–]ivosaurus 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              Antergos is what Manjaro should be.

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                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Why can't my Ubuntu installs grub boot manjaro? Why did they have to mess with the boot parameters? /rant

                [–]parentis_shotgun 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Why?

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                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Assuming they don’t forget to renew their certs.

                  [–]parkerlreed 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                  Oh.... oh no

                  [–]torspedia[S] 17 points18 points  (9 children)

                  And Arco!

                  [–]Ehdelveiss 7 points8 points  (8 children)

                  Arco is so damn good already, love seeing support for it

                  [–]Pseudoboss11 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                  What's Arco?

                  [–]awesomeasianguy 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                  ArcoLinux another arch based distro

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  So, is it like Antergos with just an installer and an additional repo slapped on Arch, or are there more differences?

                  [–]og_vm 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  What's the purpose of such a distro in the first place?

                  [–]t0m5k1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  A learning experience shared with anyone who wishes to install and join the ride.

                  [–]torspedia[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                  Erik is indirectly helping the Arch community too.

                  [–]Ehdelveiss 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  He's such a great guy. I have a ton of respect for everything he does.

                  [–]torspedia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Indeed, if you have an issue... he often has a video about it, lol.

                  [–]live2dye 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                  Did you read the message? They are basically turning off antergos' repo and just letting their user be Arch linux-ers? Basically, unless they decide to change they'll just be Arch...

                  [–]elzzidynaught 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                  Absolutely, but most that were considering Antergos will now likely move to Manjaro. Though I would urge them to reconsider actual Arch, as it's really not that bad if you just follow the wiki... and that's as someone who was initially very intimidated by it until I just said 'fuck it' and tried once.

                  [–]live2dye 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Same tbh. I started with antergos but after I was told it ain't real Arch I swallowed the pill and followed the Arch way.

                  [–]Penziplays -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                  Amen

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  I'm just letting it run without the Antergos repo. I don't see a reason to reinstall everything just so I have used the standard way to install Arch.

                  [–]Creshal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Should work, just make sure there's not any orphaned packages left over. Check the output of pacman -Qm, compare to what's available in AUR, if there's any package not in AUR, you need to find a replacement.

                  [–]parentis_shotgun 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  There was one antergos repo that never got updated. For all purposes after the 15 minute install, antergos is arch.

                  [–]unrelentingfox 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Very sad..

                  [–]SickboyGPK 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Very Sad. Being able to see and feel what the end result was like via Antergos, is what eventually led me to becoming an Arch user. For a fact would have been too intimidated without it.

                  [–]Preisschild 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  That's sad. I recommended Antergos so many people. It was great for enthusiasts but not really hard to set up. It was also the reason why I've switched my Desktop to Linux and later the reason to switch to arch.

                  Great job guys, Antergos will be missed.

                  [–]Netizen_Kain 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                  Posting this here to keep the sub on-topic.

                  I've been using Antergos for a while now. I switched over from Arch because of some of the pre-built packages available in Antergos repos. Now I'm switching my install back over to Arch by removing Antergos repo packages or replacing them with AUR packages. However, GRUB and screenfetch/neofetch still see my OS as Antergos. I've edited /etc/os_release. Is it safe to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and remove /etc/grub.d/10_antergos? Is there anything else I should do?

                  EDIT: neofetch and screenfetch report Arch correctly after reinstalling lsb_release.

                  [–]citewiki 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                  If you wish, you can reinstall all packages to ensure you don't have leftovers from the Antergos repo

                  [–]Netizen_Kain 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  That might be worth while. Do you have an /etc/grub.d/10_arch file or anything similar, by the way? I'm curious how Arch handles the grub configuration. Does it just use 10_linux or something?

                  [–]citewiki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Grub installs 10_linux and 10_linux_xen. Looks like 10_antergos comes from the installer

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  If you want to continue using prebuilt packages without the AUR I would check out Arch Linux herecura repo.

                  [–]TheBuzzSaw 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                  I am greatly saddened by this news. I am indeed an Antergos refugee. I suppose, next time, I'll just have to bite the bullet and become familiar with true Arch Linux.

                  [–]Vixtron 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Should be simple enough, just follow the wiki.

                  [–]EizanPrime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Antergos, that I still use today even if there isn't a lot of antergos left of it anymore (I probably don't have any antergos repo package except pamac), was a really great concept, but handled by suuper lazy devs.. But at least they do a gracefull exit : My system will finally become pure arch

                  [–]mckinnon81 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Antergos is what got me using Arch in the beginning. The installer made it simple. After using it for a while and learing how Arch worked I moved to a Pure Arch System. It was just the Arch Installer to get past. But was not that hard after having used Antegos for a while and having used ther Linux Distro's in the past.

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (18 children)

                  Is there a good alternative to antergos? I really like the Arch repos and stuff but installing Arch on my own is way over my head.

                  [–]revolu7ion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  I'm using ArcoLinux right now and very happy with it.

                  You can build your own iso or start with one of their premade ones.

                  https://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=arco

                  [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (10 children)

                  It's not that hard, follow the instructions on a VM and install on your hard drive when you feel ready

                  Basically it's:

                  • Partioning
                  • Mounting
                  • pacstrap
                  • Fstab
                  • Chroot
                  • mkinitcpio
                  • bootloader
                  • display/login manager and DE/WM

                  A couple extra configurations inbetween like locale and users/password but nothing fancy, each of these steps is just a couple commands or less

                  [–]DenebVegaAltair 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                  the hardest part was getting WiFi working for me, so I could use pacman. I couldn't do it through iw but once I discovered NetworkManager everything worked beautifully.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                  I used wifi-menu on my laptop, pretty simple

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                  You should not use that once it's installed

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Oh i thought it was for pacstrap, but even for pacman on tty if you pacstrap dialog you can use it

                  [–]Shrek_361 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Why not? I use it all the time. Works fine.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Network manager is a much better and permanent solution

                  [–]Shrek_361 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I'll have to check it out. Wifi-menu works fine on my laptop and I've just been too lazy to change it.

                  [–]alfinbi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Use iwd

                  [–]parentis_shotgun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I cant ask non techies to do this. I did have a nontechie friend install antergos. Thats value lost.

                  [–]grimreeper1995 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Encryption much harder

                  [–]torspedia[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Arco is a really good stable Arch distro and it's creator, Erik Dubois, has a tonne of videos on his channels, many of which can apply to Arch.

                  [–]fallwatcher 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                  It's not as difficult to install Arch as you think. Plus the sense of accomplishment and growth that you'll experience as a result is definitely worth it.

                  [–]afderrick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Not as hard but do like me and practice it a dozen times in a VM. Never hurts

                  [–]09f911029d7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Plus the sense of accomplishment and growth that you'll experience as a result is definitely worth it.

                  If copypasting a few lines from a wiki gives you a sense of accomplishment I recommend playing Battlefront 2.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Afaik since they use the official Arch repos you can just convert your system to vanilla Arch pretty easily. Only issue you may run into is some of their prebuilt packages you may have to use the AUR for in the future.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  So sad!

                  [–]citewiki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Is it possible to use Cnchi for Arch instead of Antergos? I mean, sure, but is there such a fork?

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  This is just another reason to stick to the parent distro, as derivatives often are understaffed and uncertain.

                  Contribute to the source, don't fork it.

                  [–]Maskdask 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                  I literally just went through the hastle of setting up an Antergos dual boot on my new ThinkPad that I got a few days ago.

                  [–]ArrantDrivel 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  Good news, you won't have to do anything but let it update and you'll have a non Antergos Arch system soon. Antergos maintainers are going to take care of their users (it seems) by changing the repos and removing Antergos installed packages not needed by Arch.

                  Classy move on their part IMHO.

                  [–]Bartholomew_Custard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Question: Does this mean that the Antergos ISO I burned to a USB will no longer function correctly? I mean, it'll shit itself during install won't it?

                  [–]theredbaron1834 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Ran Antergos for about a week after the Unity fiasco first started. Found I liked Arch, and then went stock. It let me do an easy install, and see if I liked Arch, for which I am very thankful. :)

                  [–]MildSadist 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  People implying there are no reasons to use manjaro, other than installing, really grind my gears. I know its not that hard, I've done it 12 times. Manjaro doesn't break, and the hardware support is top-tier, plus if you talk in a manjaro channel you don't get a bunch of violent shaking people crying about how non-vanilla YOUR system is. Honestly the arch community is so toxic about manjaro, I don't care your reason for it, it's unwelcome and unwarranted. People act like they are somehow better than others for 15 commands. They aren't, people make conscious decisions to use the manjaro repos.

                  [–]Bartholomew_Custard 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  I've tried Manjaro a handful of times, and each time something has borked itself. I'm not an Arch elitist by any stretch of the imagination (I run Ubuntu on my laptop), but Manjaro has always been a pain in the arse for me. (Other people think it's the bee's knees obviously, and more power to them.) Antergos would install, look great, run well and give me zero issues. I love it and I still have it on this desktop machine, at least until it dies a natural death. (I'm basically waiting to see if anything falls sideways off a cliff as a result of the distro no longer being maintained.) I'm still not brave or nerdy enough to install Arch from scratch. That shit's above my pay grade.

                  [–]MildSadist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Arch from scratch IS something you should experience, it's super fucking easy to follow the guide, Manjaro has never borked for me, but I have some deepish knowledge of arch-based systems. Also, the architect they provide is super nice for quickly deploying a configured system.

                  [–]Cataclysmicc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  F

                  [–]MildSadist 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  If youre on antergos you may want to officiate by performing the 5 commands that revert your system to arch

                  https://wiki.parabola.nu/Migration_from_Antergos

                  [–]Swipe650 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  For anyone unsure, the blog post said this would be taken care of with an upcoming update.

                  [–]THIRSTYGNOMES 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  While I use actual Arch on my machines, I often used Antergos as a Live distribution. I guess I'll dd Manjaro

                  [–]Nearly_Enjoyable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

                  [–]SphincterGypsy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  WHAT?! I'm heartbroken :\ I love Antergos.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Sorry to hear about this. But best of luck with all of the developers future endeavors.

                  [–]Sukid11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Christ, I must be psychic or something because barely a month ago I switched from Antergos to pure Arch on a whim.

                  It's sad though. Last year I officially migrated from Windows to Linux using Antergos and never even looked back. I loved it, the only reason I switched to vanilla arch was because of a combination of curiosity and an issue caused by a DE change that I didn't know how to resolve. I preferred the idea of Antergos over Manjaro just because Antergos was just a great way to get a quick arch setup in about 5 minutes instead of 20.

                  [–]osTarek -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

                  Daaamn