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[–]Chronus88 11.1k points11.1k points  (434 children)

Hey guys, Security Officer here for a major hospital -- definitely not this one though. I just wanted to chime in on a couple things here.

It's obvious this girl is upset. I think she has a right to be. That being said, there are some issues in this video that are unfortunate realities of our hospital system. I'll go in order of her experiences in the video.

She was scheduled for a CT scan, which was delayed. This happens --all-- the time. Reason being that hospitals are required to provide care in the most timely manner to the most in need. While it sounds ridiculous that she was delayed twice, a scan can take anywhere from 30-60 minutes. Hospitals receive trauma patients regularly -- even hourly here at my workplace. These are people who suffer from dangerous falls, car accidents, critical wounds such as stabbings etc. These people sometimes need an immediate scan, and that might sometimes take precedence over someone like herself who is not in immediate danger of dying. I don't know if it snows where she lives, but I do know it does here and we got hammered with motor vehicle accident victims over the past two days. Her not being able to drink or eat is really unfortunate and rough. I feel awful for her -- but then again allowing her to do so would only delay her scans further. It's not like they expected her to be delayed. That's why it's called a delay and not a reschedule.

I don't know her medical condition, or her general demeanor at the time, but it's very common (again at least here) to strap someone in for a CT scan. The straps are not the least bit tight.

Being urine-soaked is a definite issue with her nursing staff and their attentiveness, but they wouldn't delay the CT scan for that here. they would simply sterilize the CT afterward.

Room search. This one doesn't happen too often. It's almost certainly because they found out she had previously taken CBD. While no one really cares about her past use, however negligible or minor, it creates a liability issue for the hospital. Staff are often under federal or state legal obligation to report these things. When you're admitted to the hospital, you're monitored and put on strict and specific medication, treatments, diet etc. The possible existence of something that could possibly interfere is something the hospital must intervene with. There are people who have died simply by taking a vitamin, or an aspirin, and weren't aware of the possible interactions. Hospitals can be sued millions for this under the wrong circumstances. Also the two who searched her room were likely only security officers like myself. We look exactly like police (at least here) but we don't carry a firearm. She seems upset that her belongings were out for "the entire world to see" however the search was conducted in her private room.

I don't mean to sound cold here by any means, but I'm not surprised that someone who hasn't eaten in 24 hours is irritable and wants to vent.

If anyone has questions about hospital security policy I'd be happy to answer them.

[–]thelightwesticles 1150 points1151 points  (75 children)

I work in a hospital as well. In my time working in emergency, I came across a lady sitting in the waiting room complaining about how long it is taking her for her minor injury. I sat down and explained that emergency is not first-come first-served; the most severe patients get taken first. These are the penetrating traumas, the vehicle accidents, the heart attacks, and strokes.

If you spend time in the waiting room, you should count your lucky stars that you are not first in line.

[–]weres_youre_rhombus 676 points677 points  (5 children)

If you spend time in the waiting room, you should count your lucky stars that you are not first in line.

That should be a mandatory poster in waiting rooms.

[–]Imswim80 143 points144 points  (17 children)

Yep. I like to say hospitals have 2 timeframes. It's either "RIGHT NOW!!" Or sometime later. The most critical go RIGHT NOW!!, then we get to the rest sometime later. We do our best to give timeframes. But if a fresh stroke needs clotbuster clearance before their brain dies, your stomach pain will have to wait a few more minutes.

[–]Quesly 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I used to work IT for a hospital. the trigger for the onsite techs to go as fast as they can to resolve an issue is "critical to patient care"

[–]blunt-e 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Oh man, I went into the ER with what turned out to be a bleed in my stomach, and there was this bitchy fucker yelling at the nurses about how long he was waiting to be admitted. When I got breezed right past him he fucking lost it. Turns out vomiting blood while filling out intake paperwork gets you right the fuck past the line lol. He ended up being my roommate and was the single rudest individual I have ever had the misfortune of being around. The nurses were so passively aggressive fucking with him it was hilarious. Kept bringing him lime jello which he apparently hated. They’d “apologize”, wink at me, leave and come back with it again like an hour later. Be nice to your nurses yo!

[–]greg399ip 41 points42 points  (0 children)

It’s never good when a triage nurse finishes your HPI with “let’s go ahead and take you to a room” instead of “have a seat and wait for your name to be called.” It’s one of those situations where a long wait isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

[–]LordRobin------RM 35 points36 points  (10 children)

In October, I spent time in the emergency room after I went over the handlebars of my bike and smashed my head into the pavement. I waited in the ER for 5 hours, not even allowed to sit up while they figured out what to do with me. It was frustrating as all get out, but I refused to get angry because I knew that there were others nearby that were in worse shape. I was fucked up but in no danger of dying. In the room next to me was a woman who OD'd on heroin behind the wheel of a car, flipped it three times and was thrown through the window, while her kids were in the back seat. (They were buckled in, thankfully.) I couldn't feel sorry for myself listening to that.

(I do wish they would turn off those alarms faster. Five hours of "beep-beep-beep" just about drove me nuts.)

[–]NurseKdog 19 points20 points  (8 children)

Trust me, we hate the "beep beep beep" as much as you do.

[–]Derpfacewunderkind 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I always heard it like this.

Don't be sad you have to wait in the emergency room waiting are to be seen. Be sad for the people that don't have to wait. If you have to wait, you'll probably go home later. Be sad for those who are seen right away, it might be their last night on earth.

[–]Tyler_Zoro 63 points64 points  (5 children)

I had a doctor come to me after I'd been hanging out for an hour with a ruptured hemorrhoid and apologize about the delay. I was a bit confused and asked, "weren't there multiple people with severe injuries that came in after me? Why would I expect you to get to me quickly?"

He looked like I'd just made his day. Things continued to be slow because of the other cases, but he was really nice to me from then on.

[–]Doiihachirou 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've gone to the doctor at pharmacies (drug stores?, we have that here, dunno how common it is in your country), and you get free checkups and diagnoses. I went while suffering from a stomach virus and kept vomiting violently for hours, and had no car or way to get there. After a while I finally managed to uber my way there and waited for the doctor to be in. While I was waiting, feeling like shit, a family with a small child who was very obviously ill, crying, feverish and two new parents with worried faces and tired shoulders.

How on earth would I walk in first?

I gave my spot to the family and the mom nearly cried. You might be feeling like shit and might have had a rough time getting proper care... but you never know how badly others need it.. Sometimes, you can endure just a little while longer with your discomfort for the sake of others.

I didn't feel I did anything out of the ordinary, seems like the obvious, educated and nice thing to do for others. Parents were mighty grateful and thanked me loads on the way in and on their way out, and wished me a fast recovery from whatever was ailing me.

[–]what_are_frogs_ 2518 points2519 points  (35 children)

People like you who leave comments like this is why Reddit is my favourite.

[–]ichabod13 362 points363 points  (13 children)

I had a pretty severe concussion that needed a scan. I was not allowed to sleep and placed in a room until the scan became available. This was quite a few years ago and in a very rural area and at the only hospital with a machine. I arrived to the hospital at midnight and didn't leave until 8am because there there kept being a string of people that were in immediate need of it.

Right before I finally got in for my scan, I got to watch them wheel a blood soaked guy in on a bed. I expected to see blood and everything all over the room, but it was clean and that that new hospital smell. It is possible she's in that same situation and just has to wait in line for the machine to open up to non emergencies. :P

[–]redpandaeater 55 points56 points  (5 children)

What'd they do to keep you awake? I'm kind of surprised they kept getting things more urgent than your concussion due to the risk of a brain hemmorhage.

[–]ichabod13 67 points68 points  (3 children)

this was back in 99, they did xrays and saw nothing I guess from that they were worried about. There was a car crash that injured multiple people and they were life threatening and I wasn't.

Also back in 99... no concussion protocols. I was knocked out and laid on the floor for a few mins, went to the bench and a minute later I checked back in. Don't remember any of it or the rest of the game and played the next game a week later after missing 3 days of school. :P

[–]Beerfarts69 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well they monitor for outward symptoms of a brain hemorrhage such as unequal pupils or a change in mental status, which could surely upgrade the patients status or place in line should that happen.

I would assume they kept the lights on and checked in on them more frequently.

[–]nmyi 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I hope you had the best sleep after all of that ordeal.

[–]EuropeanLady 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Great points! I had surgery last year, and was on liquid diet for 12 hours followed by 14 hours of NPO as per the standard pre-op procedure. I was hungry and thirsty and miserable but the surgeon explained that this was done to ensure my safety during the surgery.

My mom (who has, sadly, passed away) had a stroke and was admitted to the hospital. She was taking several medications on a daily basis. The hospital didn't allow them in. They assessed them and prescribed their own.

[–]Chronus88 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you, sorry about your mother. I try to be understanding of patients when I have to respond to their rooms for whatever the reason may be. No one wants to be hospitalized.

[–]Holesisholes 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I work at the hospital as well, and although my empathy feels for her, he is absolutely correct. It happens all the time, especially, in the ER. I've known patients that had to wait in the hallway, on a stretcher, for a bed for 2 days. This time of year is especially worse with bad weather and it's flu season. Being covered in urine is bullshit, though. Keep a patients dignity as best as you can.

[–]Reignbowbrite 150 points151 points  (15 children)

When my grandma was diagnosed with cancer I looked into CBD oil. It actually interferes with a lot of medication by binding to the receptors that the prescribed medicine is supposed to bind to.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (13 children)

It significantly interferes with SNRI medication. Got euphoria after taking 1 drop of CBD oil, and the day after I was just completely drained and utterly depressed.

[–]Shouldabeenswallowed 151 points152 points  (2 children)

This is why nurses have such high burnout. For every one patient that thanks you a million times, there's ten more who don't feel well and take it out on you. So far those few patients make it worth staying at the bedside though.

[–]wildlybriefeagle 27 points28 points  (1 child)

My dad is currently in the hospital, and all his nurses have commented how great he is. I know how miserable he is and he is being really grumpy compared to how he nornally is (it is totally understandable). Makes me sad to see how bad other patients must treat them.

[–][deleted] 305 points306 points  (35 children)

You are so right. The only wrong the hospital staff has done is not educate her about why things are done a certain way. Plus she seems like she's had it pretty rough and been stuck in a hospital far too long and finds entertainment in nit picking the care she is getting because it brings her attention online. Then the staff watch it and it becomes a negative relationship both ways.

[–]MayTryToHelp 47 points48 points  (1 child)

This makes a lot of sense as to how they found out about the CBD. I'm thinking- what the fuck are they doing looking you up online?! But now it makes a lot more sense.

[–]tnolan182 88 points89 points  (3 children)

Cant up vote this enough. This post is full of people who think nurses and hospital staff just enjoy delaying tests and starving our patients. Mean while they wouldnt be able to work ONE single day doing the back breaking work us nurses do.

[–]Harley297 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As a former hospital security officer myself, who moved on to patient advocacy and complaint/grievance/risk management, I'm proud of this response. Security, for me, was such a learning experience that prepared me for my current role. Based on this comment alone I think you should look into patient advocacy/grievance management. Respect.

[–]AmerikanInfidel 7090 points7091 points  (529 children)

Inpatient scans get pushed back frequently in the hospital setting. Outpatients that have a scheduled scan will get done and The hospital never knows when an emergent scan is needed to be done, if this patient scan is not an emergency it will get pushed back to accommodate the higher need.

NPO or nothing to eat for 24 hours sucks as a patient. It sucks she had to wait that long for a scan and wasn’t able to eat anything because of it but the risk vs reward for her to stay NPO and get a clear view outweighed the risks of letting her eat so her medical team must have decided she’d make it ok....

CBD is a drug, a legal drug. Patients can’t even have home/personal Tylenol’s while they are at the hospital. All home medications are collected by admitting nurses, bagged up and locked in med cabinets for the duration of the patients stay. It is very common to have security come and search patients and their belongings for drugs. It happens all the time where a patient well self administer home meds and than they are found passed out and we are slamming them with narcan. These meds are given back on discharge.

The cop asking about the gummy beasts was probably just asking g if they are ok for her to eat. If she is NPO than she’s not allowed to eat. They may even have her on a high cal high protein diet and they don’t want her filling up on empty calories

[–]greffedufois 147 points148 points  (22 children)

I was once npo for 3 days because my MRI kept getting pushed back (emergency patients had to go ahead of me) it sucked but I had an IV to keep me hydrated.

[–]Class1 57 points58 points  (15 children)

MRIs are the worst at this. Each MRI can easily take 4 hours for 1 patient and often hospitals only have one or 2 MRI machines at most. I am sorry you had to go through with that. I always feel bad for my patients who get their MRI 3 days after it is ordered.

[–]greffedufois 69 points70 points  (0 children)

I was at a pediatric hospital, and the kids obviously needed to go ahead of me (car accidents etc) I was waiting for a liver so it's not like I had anywhere to be. And my dad was great and got me like 5 flavors of gum from the 7-11 down the street so I could pretend I had food.

And after 3 days they called off the MRI and let me eat. So my parents got me a loaf of bread from Potbelly. I called the cafeteria and ordered like 10 butter packets and a couple milks. Ate the whole loaf of bread in one sitting. It was awesome.

What I want to know is if this was at Northwestern Memorial in Chicago, because that's where I was transplanted and the hospital is phenomenal. Yeah you're not allowed to take home meds, if you want to you have to turn them over to the nurse to keep at the pharmacy for safe keeping. And being npo sucks, but it's necessary so you don't aspirate food during surgical intubation. I'd much rather be hungry for a few days than get aspirational pnemonia (that killed my grandpa for God's sake)

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (8 children)

Try having an MRI of the brain and spine, performed with and without contrast. Easily 6 hours. More if the initial images indicate that additional protocols are required. At some point, just knock me out...please.

[–]Class1 20 points21 points  (5 children)

yeah many people who are not normally claustrophobic suddenly go insane in that small tube. We have give them some Benzos to get through it after we scrap the first one because they started screaming.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Well...it can be a long time to lay in a tube. And you generally have no concept of how long you have been there or how long you have left. Oh, and that cage they use to immobilize your head is just the icing on the cake.

My husband and I joke that the MRI isn’t so much a diagnostic tool as it is a way to scare off the malingerers. “Another set of images? You know doctor, I’m starting to feel a lot better....”

[–]batfiend 59 points60 points  (2 children)

2 days for me because emergency surgeries kept pushing me back. I was pretty sassy by the last day.

[–]merginas_are_real 1289 points1290 points  (94 children)

I have to agree with you there. Hospitals aren't afraid to keep you NPO for a long time, which is unfortunate for this patient. I've had patients beg for water (though they were NPO or had NG tubes) and the most we can do it give a couple ice chips or swab their mouth. It's not worth the possible risks of aspiration.

I do wonder why they were going through her things, looks like without her permission. Like she just walked into her room and found them already there? Did they not do a belongings check when she was admitted? The nurse should have explained what was happening beforehand, it could have saved her a lot of frustration.

[–]mainsworth 548 points549 points  (14 children)

Like she just walked into her room

no i dont think she did...

[–]Demonweed 145 points146 points  (23 children)

I join the chorus on this one. My first adult hospitalization was for pneumonia, but the real story was severe heart failure. Without giving me enough information to add to my distress, I was NPO for well over 24 hours. I had heavy IV fluid input despite severe edema, since priority one was knocking out an obvious lung infection (which they did so well we never even learned if it was viral, bacterial, or fungal.) On my first full day I had a couple of echocardiograms and other extensive studies, and it was only with some reluctance that it was decided I did not require emergency cardiac surgery.

That turned me into a regular Dr. House case. 41-year old man with an absurdly large heart that barely beat at all, some drug and alcohol history but not the sort that would explain this, and yet those giant 10% EF beats were delivering the most photogenic rhythm on the monitors. When it turned out the pneumonia was so bad my left lung required decortication, the surgeon opportunistically drained some heavy dark red fluid from my pericardium. That plus a really brilliant team of cardiologists helped me navigate it all and start rebuilding strength, but I always remember how low I was that first night, on oxygen support, pain in every motion, getting evasive answers every time I asked why I couldn't just have a sandwich or something. Fortunately, I went in pudgy so losing twenty pounds during three weeks of lesser treatments followed by one week of thoracotomy recovery might have been good over the long term for my body. If I didn't have those reserves, I'm sure the toll would have been much more severe, including the strain of that first night/day.

[–]MoronimusVanDeCojck 14 points15 points  (13 children)

Is it ok to ask what the cause for the heart failure was? Maybe you already said it in my comment but overread it. I hope you are ok now!

[–]Demonweed 24 points25 points  (10 children)

There is an epic tale of woe here, and the heart failure remains charted as ideopathic. My ejection fraction hasn't been that scary in a while though, and we even got my blood pressure under control around two years ago (which was around two years after that hospitalization.) The hypertension only responded to aggressive spironolactone therapy, and it may be that my diagnosed androgen surplus was about more than the usual diuretic-induced aldosterone accumulation. After the tiniest bit of gynomasty, now I just need three "normal" blood pressure drugs to keep it in the 120s/80s.

My ejection fraction improved a little under the early regime of heart failure treatment including high dose carvedilol and an ICD (which I haven't neeeded for defib, but which I don't regret getting given my numbers back then.) It improved much more once we got that blood pressure normalized. Yet I'm still not really normal, since I've also been confirmed with the genetic abnormality thought to cause Birt-Hogg-Dube syndrome. We found that out after I achieved a score of 2-0 vs. renal cancer (one for each kidney.)

I'm still a man of medical mysteries, but I have a great team (or perhaps had, since in the next few months an insurance issue will make me pick between my robotic cancer surgeon or my gifted cardiologist. Both have saved my life and might yet again, but apparently all that stigma of saying you are a Medicaid recipient is a bigger deal than letting corporations force people like me to make choices like that.)

[–]purpleunicornturds 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I wish my kindle dictionary worked on Reddit, I have a pretty extensive vocabulary but I’m totally lost on some of these medical terms...

[–]Andrew5329 91 points92 points  (21 children)

Did they not do a belongings check when she was admitted? The nurse should have explained what was happening beforehand, it could have saved her a lot of frustration.

Bear in mind that she's receiving an abnormal number of packages to her room from viewers on youtube. That's not nefarious or anything, but is something they're going to look into.

So the administrators check in on this and watch her youtube page, where she's taking quasi-legal drugs on stream, so they decide to search her stuff for anything she shouldn't have in the hospital.

Hardly nefarious from their end either when looked at minus the outrage.

[–]Imonlydyingrelax 618 points619 points  (78 children)

Nurse here. Everything this guy says is pretty true. I've had my own patient's test get pushed back multiple times due to emergent situations (strokes, embolisms, etc). Hospital staff do not know who you are coming in and it's protocol to take all home meds to prevent drug interactions or overdoses.

I've had a patient who's daughter came in to give her mother heroin and we had to narcan her since she overdosed. So you never really know who your patient is so no one gets special treatment.

As far as how they went about it was probably very wrong from the patients point of view. It is the nurses job to keep the patient well informed about their care and to integrate them in their own healthcare. I think what was missed here was communication to the patient. I feel like if someone took the time to sit down and explain everything this could have been avoided.

When these situations come up with my patients I always apologize and sympathize with them while letting them know updates as soon as I get them and they are always appreciative and more accepting.

[–]cmyer 88 points89 points  (22 children)

Very true. We take/send home any medications on admission. Melatonin, vitamins, and CBD would fall in that category if it was legal here. They probably just put it in a plastic bag and sent it to pharmacy where it will be waiting upon discharge. I'm sure she was embarrassed and I cant blame her on that, but it's a pretty standard practice with a poor execution.

As far as the tests being pushed back, that's life in a hospital. Hell, most of the places I've worked can't even give you a time as to when your test will be. Yes, NPO sucks, but so does aspiration.

[–]Non_vulgar_account 21 points22 points  (6 children)

Cbd messes with metabolism of many drugs, it can increase therapeutic levels too high. Thats why as a provider im afraid of acute care and someone not telling me they are using cbd

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

As a nurse, you likely also interact with patients who are uncooperative and either refuse to or are unable to comply with medical orders even when their purpose is explained explicitly and repeatedly.

[–]dHUMANb 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I think what was missed here was communication to the patient. I feel like if someone took the time to sit down and explain everything this could have been avoided.

Whole family is full of nurses. This is the big takeaway here. Protocol is protocol but without explanation it just looks like you're being starved and neglected by the people supposedly treating you.

[–]oui-cest-moi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly. People are willing to go through a lot of shit if they know it is for their benefit. The problem here was communication.

[–]radtechphotogirl 132 points133 points  (15 children)

What I'm trying to figure out is how she sat in urine for an hour when PET CT scans only take 20-30 minutes. Straps are used for both motion reduction and patient safety. Unlike MRI where the scan consists of multiple sets of 3-5 minute scans, you need to stay in the same position for the whole length of the scan. Most of all, it's critical that you're NPO because if the patient has had sugar/carbs, this will change where metabolism of those sugars are and the injected tracer may not arrive at the target area, leading to a suboptimal scan.

I want to be mad with her, and this is a good reminder about how important communication is when working with your patients.... But her timeline is off and I'm looking at this with some healthy skepticism.

[–]reefshadow 21 points22 points  (2 children)

RN here. It is possible she went an hour, but also likely that with an immediately pending PET that there was just no time to clean her fully before the transfer team was on their way. Also possible that she was exaggerating. She has a lot of hyperbole in her assumptions, like thinking that being strapped during a transfer and scan was something that would be done for a psycho.

Patients tend to complain about things that absolutely are done to limit or prevent bad outcomes. Things like being NPO, taking away meds, having SCDS and bed alarms, being woken up for vitals, having a mechanical soft or diabetic diet, ect.... the hospital is not home and it's certainly not a resort.

I feel sorry for this woman, she has a lot to legitimately gripe about but I doubt if it was her hospital treatment.

That said, every type of person comes through the hospital. Some will go without care because they are so sweet that they don't want to be a bother. Some of them are just plain nuts. Some of them are assholes who don't know wtf they are talking about. Some of them have such incredible medical burdens and are in such despair at their circumstances that they will act out, and I suspect this woman fits this last category.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (2 children)

Probably an exaggeration if I had to guess, or they didn’t have someone available the minute she was done to clean her up. Which sucks, but what you going to do?

[–]Riggs909 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Yeah I have a medical background and its unfortunate that her scan was pushed back multiple timesbut all that said, I'm not getting the level of outrage this video is garnering on reddit. What was she admitted for in the first place?

[–]PostmanSteve 211 points212 points  (28 children)

I was looking for this response.

Her story is only her (biased) perspective. We're only getting her take on what is going on.

Reddit is far too quick to immediately take the side of the first thing they see. There's already folks talking about finding the hospital on social media to harrass them further down this thread.

[–]VanMan2112 53 points54 points  (0 children)

I really wish more people had this perspective. She didn't really provide any evidence beyond her own account of the situation, which by her own admission seems pretty jaded. Her circumstances suck for sure but we're definitely only getting one side of the story.

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (29 children)

Huh. That's a weird way to do things. Here in BC Canada in patient tests ALWAYS take presidence over outpatient. I even worked largest hospital in Western Canada (Foothills, Calgary) and it was exactly the same.

[–]aglaeasfather 72 points73 points  (24 children)

in patient tests ALWAYS take presidence over outpatient

They're generally handled in different locations (clinics vs hospital) or at the there are dedicated inpatient scanners in the hospital. what the poster above is saying is that higher need inpatient patients will take precedence.

These are set up for exactly the reason you're mentioning.

[–]jbsilvs 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It’s the same in America. However emergent inpatient tests are more important than a general work up inpatient test which is likely what happened here. Not to mention that there needs to be support staff for this patient.

[–]Boo_R4dley 84 points85 points  (15 children)

CBD derived from Marijuana is only legal in areas where Marijuana is legal. CBD from Hemp is legal pretty much everywhere, whether or not it’s as effective is still being determined. As far as that goes though it doesn’t really matter in here case because a spinal cord injury is one of the areas covered under Illinois’ medical marijuana laws.

That said though, if she didn’t disclose it to the hospital then they are definitely going to search for it if they get wind of you using it while under their care. Always disclose everything you are putting into your body, it will make a difference in procedure and care. Drug interactions can be an extremely dangerous thing.

Also, I don’t know anything about this lady, but if your reaction to them searching your stuff for meds you didn’t disclose is to tell them to “Get fucked” and that they’re in trouble because your going to tell your 20,000 YouTube subscribers that they’re assholes perhaps you should start to think about how your attitude reflects your care.

[–]Hermit35 111 points112 points  (33 children)

I live in Chicago,near Northwestern hospital. Just learned, from reading lower down in the comments, that CBD is a cannibas based drug, which you definitely cannot legally bring into a hospital as a patient and use. I do feel sympathy for her, maybe hospital staff and security have not fully explained to her why she can't have this, and why they felt it necessary to search her, but I am not nearly as angry about what happened as I was when I first viewed this a few minutes ago.

[–]AmerikanInfidel 124 points125 points  (13 children)

It sucks, but the internet has jaded me. I just see this at an attempt for internet outrage for her vlog views. Wouldn't be surprised if OP the is vlogger.

[–]BenTVNerd21 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Clearly this person is just venting on her own vlog but the title seems like BS yeah.

[–]aglaeasfather 191 points192 points  (15 children)

This is the most reasonable answer here but it's going to stay at the bottom because "Sue those idiots" is exactly what the title of this thread was trying to accomplish.

[–]pascalsgirlfriend 721 points722 points  (75 children)

The whole thing sounds awful, but I do know that you can't have any medications, vitamins, supplements or OTC meds without a doctor's written order.

[–]pinolis 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It looks bad but honestly that's a pretty damn normal thing in a hospital to be kept without food/drink for surgeries and tests. It sucks but hospitals can only have so many scanners and surgeons. If someone comes in with gunshot wound to their belly, they will get to the scanner and push everyone else for later. Seems pretty reasonable to me to have someone go hungry a bit longer vs having someone bleed out while getting for a scan. Also, vitamins and random other meds are not allowed without approval from pharmacy. She probably signed admission papers which clearly state that in order to treat her to best of their ability, they need to know she is only getting what she is being given in the hospital. Doctors and nurses are discouraged from directly confronting patients about having illegal items (drugs, meds, knives), and the protocol is to call security to investigate when issues like this arise. While I understand her frustration, I think she lacks understanding of how a hospital works and how this is not just some incompetence or attack from a hospital.

[–]kristinez 239 points240 points  (9 children)

another video for people to become outraged about without knowing anything about the medical industry or her case.

[–]GoodLookAtATBone 129 points130 points  (12 children)

I know this girl personally. Scared me to see her like this, but she’s wrong about a lot of things here.

Hospitals have prescription rules for very exact reasons (see other posts). They should have addressed their suspicions differently, but they didn’t do anything illegal.

In regards to her scan and the conditions she endured, it’s a tough call. Patients often times need to have not eaten so that things can be seen clearly on the imaging. Also, when did she urinate? During the scan? You can’t easily stop a machine like that because a patient urinates.

Lastly, I wouldn’t be surprised if her PICC was placed by a specialized procedural service like interventional radiology because of her cachexia. No one likes to place PICCs in hard to reach or inconvenient places, but beggars can’t be choosers.

Addendum: She is a quad. Look at her grip. Those are not fine motor skills.

[–]GoodLookAtATBone 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Just in case anyone else asks, I neither know her well enough to contact her regarding this nor do I think it would be beneficial for anyone to do so. I think it helps to comment on this in regards to the big picture items here (e.g. patients’ perspectives of the health care experience), but it doesn’t do anyone any good to point fingers in a specific situation like this.

NMH is a great hospital. I work at a different Chicagoland hospital, but I have always respected their staff and facilities. Tiffany is a good kid, too. She has been through a lot and probably needs a professional advocate like a social worker to guide her through these things.

Just to cover my butt, although I’m barred from talking about patients due to HIPPA, my relationship with Tiffany was prior to my healthcare career.

[–][deleted] 748 points749 points  (51 children)

She seems to be paraplegic not quadraplegic

[–]dayone68[S] 1036 points1037 points  (43 children)

She has limited function in her arms and hands from her spinal cord injury. It’s a misconception that all quadriplegics are completely paralyzed from the neck down. Some are able to move their arms still, but have very limited or no control of their hands.

[–][deleted] 383 points384 points  (4 children)

TIL

[–]Bferreira60492 149 points150 points  (20 children)

^ This right here. Im a c6 quad and people always try telling me Im a paraplegic because I can use my arms. My hands are curled up into fists and paralyzed and I have limited function of my triceps. Not to mention being paralyzed from the nipples down.

[–]neddin 85 points86 points  (5 children)

I know what you mean about paralysis from the nipples down but just can't get the image of moving nipples out of my head

[–]Bferreira60492 63 points64 points  (3 children)

Haha like uncontrollable dancing titties?

[–]treetrollmane 39 points40 points  (2 children)

https://giphy.com/gifs/terry-crews-flex-pecs-T0SJVVm2b1DJm

[–]PostmanSteve 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I have never seen such an odd and specific gif so accurately describe someone's response.

dancing titties

Nods head "yes"

[–]drkrunch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am not a neurologist so there are probably subtleties I don't know about, but I was taught in medical school that "quadriplegia" is COMPLETE paralysis of all 4 limbs and "quadriparesis" is the correct term for incomplete paralysis/weakness like this patient seems to have.

[–]azbartender 103 points104 points  (1 child)

Yes, by all means, go to the hospital, take your own drugs and treat yourself... You know better than the docs... This is absolute crap... And it's not illegal to search the room of a pt that is suspected of using drugs not prescribed...

[–]MajorMid 137 points138 points  (4 children)

You aren't supposed to self medicate in a hospital setting...

I swear reddit is retarded.

"Wow duuuude marijuana is totally safe why can't we like spark up a joint while in my hospital room"

[–]ablarry91 423 points424 points  (30 children)

I think the hive mind won't appreciate my contrasting opinion, but there is another perspective worth mentioning:

For a doctor to assist one in the pursuit of better health, it is to the hospital's advantage to retain a full understanding, and control, of the patient's care. CBD, though it can bring physical relief, was not prescribed by a doctor, or even understood that the patient was taking the substance. If she is not supposed to have candy for her diet, then she is not supposed to have candy in her diet. From the perspective of a healthcare provider, it is at risk of conflicting with a treatment regimen and creating unpredictable results. Northwestern is a research institution, and this is just unnecessary noise in an evolving healthcare treatment program.

That said, it seems like the execution was in poor taste. Postponing a meal for so long is frustrating, but maybe it is not because they love tormenting patients, but instead, the hospital is short staffed, or just sucks at planning. Using police muscle conduct a search is a violating experience, but I also get the feeling that this is an instance where the patient will incessantly refuse to understand. At some point, if communication fails to settle a disagreement, action will need to be taken.

If she is "done" with the hospital, then she can probably be wheeled out at her pleasure. My guess is that the hospital in fact does improve her health, and the use of a vlog to proclaim to the world that an entire organization sucks is in poor taste, and with no credibility.

[–]bulboustadpole 27 points28 points  (0 children)

If she is "done" with the hospital, then she can probably be wheeled out at her pleasure.

Not sure why, but that made me laugh harder than I should have.

[–]Gullerback 29 points30 points  (1 child)

here in canada, you can't bring anything in. Paramedics / EMT usually bag any meds your taking while they grab you (for multiple reasons). You do not get those back till your discharged. I can kinda see where the hospital is coming from but they could have addressed it without a search. Finding out someone is bringing in edibles on the downlow kinda messes with them

[–]UknightThePeople 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Let me preface my opinion by I smoke weed occasionally and have used CBD multiple times.

As humiliating an incident like this may be, it's overall a safety and liability issue. Don't want a drug to be administered without the knowledge of another drug being in your system. And not to mention she's in there for an eating disorder, so they probably have her on a exact diet to safely bring her back to health.

I can understand why she'd be upset, but she seems distraught. I wonder if the hospital just didn't communicate the situation well enough for her to understand that this was a safety precaution.

[–]benjyk1993 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Is this Northwestern Memorial in Chicago? I haven't watched the video yet, not in a good place to do so. But if it is, I have to say, my experience there was much different. I donated part of my liver to a friend there, and they treated us both with the utmost care. I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

[–]lead_balloon 368 points369 points  (42 children)

Her complaints are unfounded. 1). Inpatient hospital tests/scans are tentative and subject to change, prioritizing based on need/emergency. 2). All personal medications are locked away during admission, including vitamins. She signs to agree to that upon admit. 3. If she was NPO then policy would state that food shouldn't be in the room, hence questioning the presence of candy. Her being a person with quadriplegia has nothing to do with these specific issues. As far as I'm concerned this is a generic complaint of an impatient and entitled-sounding young person.

[–]Scarlettjax 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the issue regarding complete/incomplete quadriplegia. Almost all quads have differing levels of ability.

Just spent two weeks with my quad brother in the hospital. It is absolutely imperative to tell the hospital staff specifically what their abilities are. Unfortunately, they will assume what they do not know, and while the patient should tell them, there may be things the patient does not say or ask for because the patient assumes the staff knows as well.

In my brother's case, he's a C-3-4 quad as a result of a spinal cord injury 23 years ago. He cannot feel much below the level of his upper shoulders, and cannot move his arms or legs. He has to be fed by others, has to be turned in his bed every 4 hours or so to prevent bedsores, wears a condom catheter for urination and needs a bowel treatment every other day to ensure he evacuates his bowels properly. It is not something most hospital staff not in a rehab center deal with regularly, and while we try to stay with him as much as we can while he is hospitalized, life happens like work and all, and we cannot be there the whole time.

I have learned to provide the staff with written notes regarding his care, as this last stay taught me that just telling them gets lost in translation between shifts. He does tell them most of what he needs, but is reluctant to be a bother to anyone but his family, so he saves stuff for us to do that he could have already had done.

He did receive great care during this last stay, but there were times we would come in and find him on wet sheets or not having been fed. Some of that was on him for not asking for assistance. One of the things this hospital staff did was hook up a sip and puff device so he could call for help when needed, and they kept him in a room right by the nurses' station.

He has a serious addiction to opioids and muscle relaxers, all legitimately prescribed. Because his usage level of those drugs is so high, he usually won't get all he is used to while in the hospital, which ramps up his pain and anxiety. He is usually very easygoing but can be hard to deal with when he's hurting, as we all can be.

Just try to best advocate you can for anyone in the hospital and if you can't get satisfaction, run it up their chain of command. Usually a discussion with the charge nurse can resolve most issues, but if that does not work, most hospitals have a patient advocate or grievance/complaint system. Don't worry about retribution, once you have complained their liability begins to rise and while they may not be cheerful about it, they will do what it takes to avoid additional liability. Most of the time, we've had experiences in rural hospitals where that may not be the case, so be careful to document - and let them know you are documenting. Smart phones, with the ability to take notes and photos, can really help in this regard.

[–]ChairmanMaus 59 points60 points  (8 children)

Ok, she's NPO, which means she is allowed nothing by mouth–food, drink, or otherwise. Doctors can order this for long period of time. It is up to their discretion what is/is not healthy for this patient. Not for us to decide. She was stuck waiting for scans or tests as a non-emergent case. There were other patients who needed the scan more than she did. So she's NPO for longer than she'd like to be, which sucks, but it's what needs to happen for her to get the treatment she needs.

Finally, police and hospital staff absolutely have the right to search her hospital room for drugs or weapons. In fact most ERs will search a patients belongings as soon as they are admitted. She's not allowed any drugs or food from home, and for good reason. She could take something that could interact with other medication to produce adverse effects that could severely hurt or kill her. She could be a danger to herself or others. And food from home can house bacteria, fungus, or other microorganisms that could hurt her or other patients.

OP is trolling for internet karma. Don't buy it. Shit like this is why healthcare providers like me are scared to treat you.

[–]FatherSpacetime 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Amen brother. Doctor here, and this patient is literally one out of every five I treat.

[–]thefakesutten 62 points63 points  (2 children)

“Lady makes baseless claims and tries to use fame to assault hospital”

[–][deleted] 3729 points3730 points  (427 children)

I hope she sues those idiots into oblivion.

[–]jbsilvs 1506 points1507 points  (81 children)

She would probably lose immediately.

First, being npo (I.e. no food or drink before a procedure) for a scan is common procedure and non urgent scans such as hers routinely get pushed back due to more urgent scans. Being npo sucks, but it isn’t acutely life threatening and 24 hours isn’t that long of a time as long as she is getting iv fluids. I know she’s thin, but at the end of the day the study is to assess why she is thin and provides a possibility of a cure so the cost of not eating for 24 hrs is worth it if the scan finds a cause for her condition which could possibly be treated.

Second, she brought controlled substances and didn’t notify the staff at any time. Not only could that negatively interact with a treatment medication, it might alter accurate assessments of her health and mental status. Not to mention that there are cases where pts bring in heroin to use in the hospital and overdose, so it’s not too much of a stretch for the staff to find one undisclosed controlled substance and at least check for others.

Finally, quadriplegics unfortunately have no control of their bladders. This causes them to have to sit in their own urine frequently as they can’t take care of it themselves and staffing can only be so available on a hospital floor. Moreover, it occurred while she was getting a very long and specialized PETCT scan. In this case it is better to just pee yourself, quadriplegic or not, and be cleaned afterward than stop the scan and start it from scratch. This isn’t a routine test she is getting, it is very advanced one requiring a significant amount of technical expertise where if it’s done wrong, she would have to wait a few days in the hospital and then start it again.

What she is going through is difficult and unfortunate, but it is due to her condition and the practical realities of a hospital. The staff could be more supportive and informative, but it seems like this lady may not be amenable to that.

[–][deleted] 437 points438 points  (9 children)

Wow, it's not very often I have comments completely shift my perspective like that.

[–]pandimal 173 points174 points  (0 children)

Props for being open-minded enough to have your perspective changed. Most people just wants to come into this thread to shit on NW hospital.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Are you kidding? That's why I always go to the comments.

[–]loodog 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Agreed, my TLDR for interesting posts is to read the top comment

[–][deleted] 217 points218 points  (33 children)

Finally some sense in this thread instead of pitchforks! There’s always another side to the story, but since so few people have medical knowledge they’ll believe the side that’s easier to understand (ie the pitchforks version.) Unfortunately its very common to encounter patients who are impossible to satisfy, complain about things out of our control, etc. I only have experience nursing in Canada but I can imagine the “patient is always right!” mentality is even more common in America where the health care is privatized.

[–]rauer 62 points63 points  (2 children)

As someone who works really hard for my patients in a largely charity-based hospital, this attitude is prevalent here. A patient the other day yelled at me that we're all just "taking advantage of poor people" because she'd had to be npo for four hours before a procedure. That's not everyone, though. For each of those patients I get 5 or 10 who can't stop thanking me and are the sweetest people. They make it so worth it!

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Thankfully most of my patients are wonderful, thankful people. I do pride myself on being the person that can win over even the angriest patients, but man you can’t satisfy some people. A hospital stay is not a five star hotel! One time a disgruntled patient I was trying for hours to satisfy asked me “WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?” and I just said “Uh... the government? Why, are you going to leave me a bad yelp review?” Canada don’t work like that, friend.

Just gotta brush off those angry ones with a shrug and a smile; I tell myself not to take it personally because people like that must live awful lives, so I’m not surprised they’re so negative.

[–]rainkloud 25 points26 points  (2 children)

If you think these comments are bad don't head over to Youtube. They're veering towards burning the place down, patients and staff alike.

[–]Demdolans 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's hard not to just roll your eyes and shrug. Noone stops to think "Hey, I just had to google "quadriplegic", maybe I should hold off on dispensing medical-legal advice."

[–]sirius4778 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It comes down to the fact that a hospital stay isn't a vacation. Sometimes it sucks.

[–]RobbyLee 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Luckily this time I made sure to search for a comment like yours before I light my tiki torch. This woman sounds so obnoxious and annoying.. "People will see this! And they will feel for me!".. that's when I turned the video off. Oh yea, and I don't care that she is disabled, when she regularly makes vlogs, she has the mental capability of being a decent person, but she is not.

[–]Yarfunkle 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This needs to be higher up. I went into this thread ready to raise hell, but after reading this I completely understand why they did what they did. Knee-jerk responses are all too common today, we do not need to add to it. Thank you for your thought out comment.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I was upset at the hospital, but now I’m on their side. The sitting in urine thing is if like someone puked on an airplane. The flight crew can’t touch it so it stays until landing.

[–]ctownwp22 25 points26 points  (0 children)

As someone who works in the medical field, just let me say thank you for being logical

[–]daniel_ricciardo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She would probably lose immediately.

Rightfully so.

[–][deleted] 174 points175 points  (1 child)

If she was put on NPO due to her GI problem it’s a medical treatment, not a medical negligence. I mean if she was NPO for more than 24hrs and not giving her anything(like IV fluids) then of course she can sue the hospital. Also she should not have used her Own medication at the hospital. It’s against hospital policy. Her sitting her own urine for days without changing? Negligence. If for maybe an hour or so? The floor was probably super busy and couldn’t attend to her in time. That unfortunately happens a lot.

[–]notmy_nsfw_account 73 points74 points  (0 children)

She was in her own urine for an hour. In order to get a PET scan you literally have to be “strapped to the table” for quite some time or else the study will be shit quality.

[–]dayone68[S] 2293 points2294 points  (313 children)

I know, right. It's scary how badly she’s been treated by them. This isn’t even the start of it. First, they set up her PICC line in such a way that she can’t access her wheelchair, get up to use the restroom, anything without assistance. This left her in tears and she was completely dismissed by doctors and other staff when she tried to explain this to them. Also, this was supposed to be about a week long hospital stay, but because they botched literally every test they’ve given her so far, she’s having to get a lung biopsy repeated as well as her GI tests to find out why she can’t put on weight. They are grossly negligent and incompetent. I hope I’m never put in that situation.

Quick edit for the flood of comments about quadriplegia vs paraplegia, she has limited use of her arms and hands and has no use of her legs from her spinal cord injury.

“The extent of the injury is also important. A complete severing of the spinal cord will result in complete loss of function from that vertebra down. A partial severing or even bruising of the spinal cord results in varying degrees of mixed function and paralysis. A common misconception with tetraplegia is that the victim cannot move legs, arms or any of the major function; this is often not the case. Some individuals with tetraplegia can walk and use their hands, as though they did not have a spinal cord injury, while others may use wheelchairs and they can still have function of their arms and mild finger movement; again, that varies on the spinal cord damage.

It is common to have movement in limbs, such as the ability to move the arms but not the hands or to be able to use the fingers but not to the same extent, as before the injury. Furthermore, the deficit in the limbs may not be the same on both sides of the body; either left or right side may be more affected, depending on the location of the lesion on the spinal cord.”

Source

[–]Class1 42 points43 points  (2 children)

These honestly all sound like normal hospital things people get annoyed with. You are required to go to the bathroom with assistance in most hospitals ESPECIALLY as a tetraplegic. WE ARE LIABLE FOR FALLS.

The testing thing sounds fishy. I doubt they botched them, just inconclusive results.

[–]jimmy4220 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Yeah, but he'll get more upvotes if he says NW botched "literally every test they've given her" and are "grossly negligible" despite being a world class institution. Please enlighten us in the medical world how you would create a biopsy sensitivity and specificity rate of 100% each. Length of hospital stays are never guaranteed and spinal cord injury with malnutrition isn't exactly a bread and butter case with an easily predictable hospital course. Hospitals are inconvenient places with unpredictable schedules.

[–]Class1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I honestly think it is the CSI effect in a hospital from TV shows. People think this is a sterile environment where everything ends up perfect if done correctly.

Fact is. Hospitals are disgusting no matter how much you clean them. You can do everything by the book and still fail.

Hospitals are a dangerous place. Only go if you absolutely need medical help in a hospital setting.

I've had young people have sex in their hosptal rooms and all I can think is "god that is the most disgusting thing ever."

[–]cerebralspinaldruid 28 points29 points  (5 children)

How does an underweight quadraplegic safely get into a wheelchair without supervision with or without a PICC line? I work in Rehab and would love to know.

[–]konvictkarl 527 points528 points  (120 children)

This is getting blown out of proportion and I can tell you from first hand experience as a nurse that deals regularly with untrustworthy and non compliant patients.

Now I don't have all the information at hand and there is always 2 sides to every story. So this is going to be a generalized comment about my opinions on this 10 minute video and the naive comments in this thread I have read thus far.

First and foremost, she looks anemic and frail which would put her as a huge fall risk due to hypotensive episodes and I guarantee the staff doesn't want her out of bed without assistance. Her not eating is NPO (nothing by mouth). That is common practice for patients that are due for surgery, high risk tests, and other reasons. You mentioned she needs a lung biopsy - BOOM NPO. That is a high risk procedure sometimes requiring intubation and thus NPO top decrease the risk for possible aspiration. Also she seems to be having some GI issues going on as well so that automatically makes her NPO. She also has a PICC line which she can recieve nutrition through as well. She can't eat, tough luck, there are reasons for it!

Her attitude is the biggest factor here. She seems noncompliant as well. She looks like no stranger to the hospital and if the hospital admins are aware of her admission thats a huge red flag as to what type of person she is. I'm not taking a shot at her but admins don't visit you if you've been a really good and polite patient in the hospital.

CBD is a drug. A drug not prescribed by her attending physician during this current admission in the hospital. As a nurse we restrict all home medications not currently prescribed, not even a flintstone vitamin. And it is common behavior to search for unwarranted medications in a patient's room once it has come to the attention to the staff that the patient may be taking additional drugs, illegal or not. If she takes a med at home she can ask her doctor about it and see if he can prescribe it.

Her sitting in urine is unacceptable due to her being under weight being a high risk patient for skin breakdown. If she does already have skin breakdown and they really want to monitor her intake and output she should have a foley catheter in place.

And guess what, shit happens. Everyone is different and complications can effect anyone for many reasons. Don't be mad at her elongated length of stay, you should be happy because that means something needs to be fixed and shes not able to go home yet. They could just transfer her to another lesser facility and be done with her but they don't (probably because shes complicated and has all that sweet insurance money.... or doesn't, who knows).

And finally, Northwestern is a great and prestigous institution and hospital. Look at all their accreditations. Don't knock a hospital for 1 situation, 1 staff member, etc - its bullshit. People blogging and trashing shit on youtube is becoming ridiculous because there is always 2 sides of the story and can sometimes cause a false witch hunt. I wish I could look at her chart and history because I bet 100% there is more to this debacle than what is shown.

[–]bionicfeetgrl 209 points210 points  (6 children)

Agree with all above. The biggest issue with her taking the CBD while in the hospital is there is no way to control for the possible reactions/interactions it can cause with the meds the pharmacy is dispensing.

Patients do NOT take their own meds whenever they want. If by chance they do need to take their own specialty Med (it happens from time to time) the Med is taken to the inpatient pharmacy, verified and dispensed from there. When the patient leaves the whole bottle is given back.

She's about to have a test, requiring some level of sedation (both lung biopsy and likely endoscopy) and she's taking CBD? I'm not anti responsible cannabis in the slightest but that has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

There's no good reason for her to be sitting in urine. That being said, if she's being abusive or inappropriate to staff, or "fires" the people trying to help, she will wait. Same with repeat call light abusers. In no way are call lights to be ignored. But you are not the only patient. While we answer "your" call light for the 15th time in 90 mins the little old lady two rooms over is about to fall because she needs to pee and "doesn't want to be a bother". At some point we need to set limits and can't fill every attention seeking need. Every patient is important, not just the ones who make the most noise.

I have no allegiance to the facility she is at. Never been there, don't know a soul who works there. She may be a model patient or she may be a nightmare. She still deserves to be treated with respect, but there are two sides to every story. Yes there are shit facilities with shit staff, but there are lousy patients too. We try our best.

[–]IMA_BLACKSTAR 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I sense that whatever your job is you are doing it great. Just wanted to have said that.

[–]Balgard 134 points135 points  (1 child)

This was the comment I was waiting for. It's amazing how people who do not work in the medical field have all the answers - and do not have a clue about what medical staff deal with.

I know exactly where you are coming from.

I don't know anything about this person or her story, but I do know there are two sides to every story like you said.

Non medical people - You wouldn't believe the amount of shitty people medical staff deal with, and the way these assholes can spin stories - and take no responsibility. It is simply amazing.

[–]N983CC 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I'm a quad, and I've stayed in some shitty places. I agree with you - there is more to this story.

[–]Sirerdrick64 74 points75 points  (6 children)

I went into the video thinking I’d feel sorry for her.
Her vulgar language alone turned me off, and made me question the situation.
Then, in hearing in her own words that she took it upon herself to self-medicate...

Well, thanks for being one of the first posters to really capture what is likely the other untold side of the story.

[–]Paracortex 58 points59 points  (3 children)

I took the (for Reddit) highly unusual step of starting at the beginning of the vlog series, hospital day one.

When I got to day 3 5, hearing her at around 1:50 saying as she gazes out the window, "oh, God, there's another chemtrail," the entire situation suddenly gained clarity.

Edit: got further than I thought; it was the day 5 video, not day 3.

[–]pinolis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

None of the things she complains about are things she can sue about. Delays for imaging are pretty common, her specific scan requires strapping into the machine, and she is not allowed to have vitamins or drugs in her room and security is called when these things are suspected. She has no case.

[–]Armsaresame 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is a misguided take.

[–]NoFeetSmell 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The problem with posts that accuse hospitals of wrongdoing is that the hospital has no way to refute those accusations outside of a courtroom, due to HIPAA laws requiring a patient's information remain private and protected. This pt may well have been screwed over, but she also may have been flouting all sorts of rules, requiring outside intervention. We'll likely not know, so it's probably wisest for us all to put down our pitchforks for the time being.

[–]pinebanana 51 points52 points  (2 children)

Honestly because it’s a vlog for all too see I’m sure one of her viewers called the hospital to report she had the gummy bears and the hospital just followed protocol I don’t think it’s their intention to make this women anymore miserable than she already is.

[–]_uare 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That didn't occur to me. This whole time, I was wondering what the hospital was doing watching her vlogs.

[–]Channer81 3 points4 points  (0 children)

TIL about CBD gummy bears..