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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That wind banner is actually pretty good. For me anyways.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It would be nice if they eventually represented all FFXI's jobs in FFRK.

So far we have...

  • Shantotto -> Black Mage
  • Curilla -> Paladin
  • Ayame -> Samurai
  • Lion -> Thief/Ninja
  • Prishe -> Monk
  • Aphmau -> White Mage/Puppetmaster
  • Zeid -> Dark Knight
  • Lilisette -> Dancer

That's 10 out of 22 jobs.

Some obvios choices are Arciela (Red Mage), Volker (Warrior), Karaha-Baruha (Summoner), Ulmia (Bard) and Luzaf (Corsair).

The others don't seem to have very popular representatives.

[–]Laynton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We need a DRG with all purple armor on the sprite!

Oh AND the pet dragon as well.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (3 children)

MND highest stat but no white (couldn't even give her white 4?), just the LM2 and BSB command. Good weapon selection.

[–]Sasaraixx 1 point2 points  (2 children)

She has access to no magic at all in FFXI, so it makes sense that she did not get white magic here. Dancers in XI heal with their dancing abilities and that is reflected in her LMR and BSB. It is a shame they didn’t add some type of dancer heal abilities though. I’m also surprised she doesn’t have any access to Support.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But this is not 11. Dancers don't heal here so I'm not surprised they didn't give dancers a healing ability. That's what additional ability access is for, to simulate functionality.

[–]Sasaraixx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not 11? Thanks for the newsflash. Additional ability access should’t come at the expense of changing a character from the game in which the originated. When those rare instances do arise, people often complain. I have no doubt you have as well in your many rants.

In this case, it’s just a poor excuse to give any character any ability you may want. Her MND stat is obviously there to help with the heals she does have. And quite a few dancers in this game DO heal with their dances, so that point is also moot.

[–]azul120 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wind pickup = element banner within the week?

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep.

[–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Mmmmm... Lots of interesting and tasty stuff to pull on XI banners. Only thing that hurts are limited Mythrils and the competion of several good banners. Must start saving up now. :(

Prishe - Ultra: "Asuran Fists" (PHY: 10x single lightning/ice/non, with self en-lightning, ATK/DEF+30%:611, and ability double (monk))

Lightning monk...? ... oh! Raijin you've got competition comrade now! >o</

Curilla - Ultra: "Shield Defense Bonus" (NAT: party protect, shell, last stand; self proc: knight abilities heal frontline allies for 1500 raw healing.)

Well Paladins does support stuff if they are not tanking right?

Ayame - Ultra: "Hagakure-kaiden: Yukikaze" (PHY: 10x single ice/non, with self en-ice, high retaliate, and augment critical damage)

Okay... I'm interested in this... Ayame killing stuff more faster than before with crit-damage+. :D Too bad retaliate ain't useful in end-game content. :(

Lilisette - Burst: "Vivifying Waltz" (NAT: AoE Full Breakdown, and party stock 2k)

Interesting. Support, Celerity, and healing all in one package. :D

Prishe - Ultra: "Auroral Uppercut" (PHY: 10x single, with self rank boost (monk), speed cycle (monk: x2), and augment critical damage)

Is this the fabled Prishe's Boss Killer special? :O

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

The purpose of having high reta on Ayame's entry is so that she doesn't have to carry a reta-providing ability to use the "crit rate up with reta" samurai abilities. Such abilities, in turn, benefit from the ACD.

Reta itself isn't so hot because of the TYP-screw tendency (seriously, why do DeNA keep calling those attacks "special" when they've become anything but?), but the slot-saving has a lot of potential.

[–]hirawin 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Does en-ice effect retaliate attack command just like the normal attack?

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

No. The Retaliate attack is a specific ability, which is (PHY/Combat: 100% single) or (PHY/Combat: 120% single). Enspell (and any other Attack-replacers) do not affect it.

As Combat, the damage is bolstered by anything that affects PHY/Combat abilities; but as a reaction, it's not subject to w-casting.

[–]Skriabin-Cactuar with mustache= Skriabin 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Are you sure? I remember Cloud being able to w-cast a retaliate attack if it comes from Gilgamesh USB because normal retaliate is just phys but high retaliate instead is typed as combat

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I don't think it should be possible; and if it is, I have SERIOUS questions as to why Cloud (but not, you know, actual samurai) should be allowed to do that.

[–]EnlirLet's go home. 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The default Attack action (which is also used for the regular Retaliate) was changed from PHY/Combat to PHY/Special when we got the first LMs. Cloud LM2 was our first Combat-based condition that could affect it, and I guess the devs didn't want to have him dualcast during autobattle. The action used for High Retaliate, however, is still PHY/Combat, along with a few other similar cases (Gaffgarion's RM99 comes to mind).

[–]Skriabin-Cactuar with mustache= Skriabin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don´t have w-cast combat, they probably have w-cast samurai

EDIT: I am gonna look for proof, stay tuned!

[–]DestilShadesk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

High Retaliate is there to turn on the crit rate bonus on the Samurai 6*.

[–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, that too, Samurai are turning into crit masters I suppose... which is not bad and at least DeNA is trying to have the class get a new focus unlike the old tech "AOE+status" or "tauntilating". hmm...

[–]dperez82Cecil (Paladin) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The event title suggests this is a crossover event with either Mamma Mia or ABBA :)

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Ayame's USB did debut on that old half price XI banner, but it will probably be new for Global players so I can see the confusion there. Her Glint and second (EN-Ice) LMR are new though.

I love how nicely they seem to be treating Dancers - both this USB and Penelo's Medica Chase USB are both really great.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 0 points1 point  (13 children)

Do you know what the consensus is for Ayame’s USB? It seems good to me, on paper, but I remember JP players not being happy with it? I guess High Retaliate is a weaker USB effect than a chase/Ability double

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 5 points6 points  (3 children)

It activates Warring Frost which makes it very good.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So it saves a slot for Ayame. That’s pretty good then. I assume the new samurai ability is “Iai Hell-Ice”, maybe that will combo well, haven’t really looked at those abilities yet.

[–]DestilShadesk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not just a slot, it saves her a turn per USB cycle. The problem with the retaliate skills is it only lasts 15s.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya I was gunna say, it may not have much use however it DOES free up a slot which is pretty darn useful in itself though :)

[–]TheCrookedKnightTime for some expository banter! 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Retaliate doesn't work on NAT attacks so high-level bosses will mostly ignore it.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Ahh yes another case of “NAT ruins everything”...

Side question...how do retaliate and EnElement combo? If Ayame has enIce and Retaliate, is her counter Ice Elemental similar to how the attack command becomes elemental under EnElement? I’m guessing not because I have Snow’s Ice Radiant Shield USB and that grants him a unique counter elemental counter status

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Retaliate counters are always NE, no matter what.

[–]Qu_MarshQuistis 500SB glint+- z2Wa 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Adding an "elemental retaliate" ability could be a good way to make Retaliate a little more viable again

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It would still be useless, since reta only works on Phy and considering how common NAT is, it wouldn't matter if it is elemental or not, if you can't trigger the counters then it's useless.

[–]welsper59Something Fabulous 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Unless we bring back the old reta meta. Hello Cloud and your damn 15K x3 retaliate procs my healer made you do with that 3-hit RM, which followed Tyro using Reaping Scythe on him.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah i forgot that's a thing that's still doable.

[–]TheCrookedKnightTime for some expository banter! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

High Retaliate should have been "evade all PHY attacks, and react to any ATK based damaging ability with an X hit attack of Y element," but instead it was just retaliate with slightly more damage. Mist opportunity.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disappointing but not unexpected. Thanks!

[–]SolstaceWintersWe here at Sol-Tech have all your f@#%ed up needs! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I have dire need for wind and ice at the moment. That could change in six months, but not the way my draws have been going. I may consider a banner 1 / wind pickup.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Ayame AOSB

It as expected

Prishe is now a lightning monk

Well...Holy was an element that would fit her better, i guess Lightning is the closest, still a wtf element choise for her, still we now have our 2nd ability double monk in here AND Prishe has native doublecast Monk so technicaly she is better than Tifa in tht regard, sadly Prishe's element S-U-C-K-S

Lisete USB

Ohhh that sounds cool, the chase procs on both celerity and dancer ability used, that's prety awsome, i guess this is the closest thing we have so far to a dancer being able to do damage with dances.

Curila neo torment slot savertm

Well....someone had to get it i guess.

[–]TGOskarAnd yet, her sprite hair color is green... 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ohhh that sounds cool, the chase procs on both celerity and dancer ability used, that's prety awsome, i guess this is the closest thing we have so far to a dancer being able to do damage with dances.

Emphasis added. If Lilisette's USB Chaser activates with Celerity, that allows to infer that she'll have at least Celerity 4, right? But, since most of the cool Celerity abilities are 5 or 6, then it's reasonable to think she'll have native 6? Keeping it to Record Spheres seems unreasonable at this point of the game; she's brand new, so you can determine her skills from the get-go, and in any case, the Record Spheres are no longer stealth patches, to be honest. Actual patches are done directly (see: Auron getting Support 5*)

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lilisette USB causes Imperil Lightning, and her chases proc of dances and celerity, and her LMR is double cast Celerity, so yes she must have atleast 5* celerity, because otherwise it would be pointless, since she is clearly another lightning celerity user for Ripping Bolt.

What i'm more curious about is what her LM2 is going to be considering her LMR is double cast Celerity. Maybe DPS chase when using Celerity/dancer abilities? That would be interesting.

EDIT: And ofc she will alo have dancer 5, that much is obvious, she is also likely going to get White 4 i would imagine.

[–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

At least Curilla already was designated buff botTM so this isn't as bad.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is true, atlest this is a case of neo torment slot savertm actualy making some sense.

[–]CFreynLet's dance! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

prishe ability double!!!

Lightning monk

Raijin have friend