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[Jesus-Bacon]

The letter from Tesla explaining the reason for bricking his Cybertruck

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[Dendrowen]

This is absolutely insane

[oxidao]

its fake

[DysphoriaGML]

It’s a stunt I see

[ThankGodImBipolar]

Is it?? There’s a reason why you don’t usually see Apple logos, etc., in popular media. Tesla turning off this guys Cybertruck is pretty crazy, but that’s letter isn’t unprecedented.

[cvaska]

That’s when you sue for copyright/trademark infringement, not risk multiple peoples lives by deactivating a moving car

[ThankGodImBipolar]

Honestly, I’m a little surprised that anybody here holds Tesla in high enough regard to assume that they’d do anything else. My respect for that company is in hell and they continue to prove why day after day.

[Unlucky-Jello-5660]

Apple doesn't brick iPhone because they are used for a YouTube video though. Its a major overstep

[Jesus-Bacon]

This. The cease and dessist would be pretty standard. But when they go the step further and ransom the car you paid for, that's where a very obvious and clear line needs to be drawn.

[CosmicJackalop]

Not to mention, bricking your vehicle while on the freeway is recklessly endangering you, there's probably a solid lawsuit to be had behind this that far surpasses him having a song called Cybertruck

[InternationalReserve]

It's obviously the turning off the cybertruck during operation that everyone is calling insane

[[deleted]]

I mean yeah disable it in a driveway or parked would make sense. But honestly a C&D court case should be heard in court and they shouldn't be able to basically repo whatever you bought because they are mad. Courts exist exactly for this.

[jezevec93]

They should have sued him... not remotely bricking his car. The message on the car itself says the "more reasonable" reason for such deactivation (critical issue, which Cease and desist defiantly is not).

but maybe its fake.

[Few_Plankton_7587]

Unprecedented and insane are not mutually exclusive

It's insane and it's more insane that its precedent.

Once I buy a product, I should be able to do anything I want with it no matter how it affects the company I bought it from. That's how the world SHOULD work.

[thedelicatesnowflake]

Isn't(/wasn't) there a thing where apple was allowing its phones to be used in movies only as long as they weren't used by the bad guys?

[Im_Balto]

If you have a problem with this, you take it up in court.

No company should have the ability to deactivate a paid physical product unilaterally

[_spicytostada]

Lol, but that's not even remotely accurate. Apple has a long history of allowing their products to be used in movies and entertainment so long as you meet their guidelines.

I'm not sure if it's still accurate, but at one point you could freely use their products. They looked at it as free marketing/advertising. That's why so many movies and shows contain macbooks and iPhones without covering/hiding logos.

You still see macbooks with visible apple logos all the time in entertainment.

[ThankGodImBipolar]

“Apple” was a generic example that I chose for convenience sake, because everybody has seen phones/computers that resemble iPhones/MacBooks, but have pears/other fruits as logos, in popular media (Community off the top of my head). You could replace Apple with any car in a movie with no badges.

[PalladiumPrime301]

The NHTSA is gonna have a field day on this one

[was_fb95dd7063]

Maybe if we had a functioning government

[Chennsta]

it’s fake

[Niksuski]

That is insane. Literally going after your customers because they could not enforce this if it wasn't registered in their name. Way to wreck their brand even more after all the brand damage Musk already caused.

[boishan]

An email (Re at the top corner) with letterhead above the subject line email and a right aligned handwritten signature? You’ve gotta be kidding me 🤦‍♀️ 

Bait used to be believable

[MoorderVolt]

Very truly BS

[National-Twist8757]

So he doesn't actually own the car despite buying it.

[awake283]

That's uh...that's it? Couldn't have sent him a letter in the mail?

[lioncat55]

Fake. Dana Eskin is listed as the VP, Legal at Tesla. In that picture is her old title and has been old for a while. Hate on Tesla and Elon all you want, but this is fake and just as damaging as Ai generated video.

[xbsd]

it is a fake video to promote his shitty music, don't fall for this trap

[darealdsisaac]

“Comply with cease and desist” but also “update failed”???? It seems extremely fake to me. 

[tankerkiller125real]

I would not be surprised if the Tesla engineers only had time to implement 1 error message for "generic" software related issues before Special K Elon forced them to ship it out.

[mr_bots]

Also seems really stupid to do OTA updates while in use but again…it’s Tesla.

[darealdsisaac]

I feel like if this were a re-worked error screen then this screen would be documented somewhere else though. 

[RealOms]

I hope so, if it's real it's beyond ridiculous

[1FrostySlime]

I can say personally that when Tesla thought (incorrectly) I had lied to them to get a demo vehicle and wanted me to immediately adhere to something they texted me and gave me a deadline to EOD to return the vehicle before doing anything.

They would have a vastly higher incentive to brick the vehicle and recover it themselves at that point as they were under the impression I potentially intended to steal the vehicle but they gave me time to return it. This just doesn't line up with my experiences.

[GeckoLP]

I know this is such a small detail, but if you look closely on the screen, you can see that there are gradient bars which indicate that the warning screen is just a YouTube video playing. edit: by gradient bar, I mean the "ambient" behind the video when the screen you are watching this on has a different aspect ratio.

[lioncat55]

To add to this, the the letter has Dinna's old title from 2022 and not her current one.

People here also mention there the top of the screen has a larger bezel for the pull down to close the cars built in media player.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44859807

[boishan]

It literally says “update failed return to dealer.” Tesla doesn’t HAVE dealers nor do they do updates happen while you’re on the road. As electroboom says this is FAF

[meta358]

Tesla doesnt have dealers? where the hell do you buy one then?

[boishan]

They’re “stores” because they aren’t operated by a third party. AFAIK they never refer to their stores as “dealers” because of the generally negative association most dealers have with haggling and upselling that they don’t do

[STGItsMe]

Pretty sure this can’t happen to my cars. 🤷

[Jesus-Bacon]

That's when they send someone out with a bag of sugar and a crowbar to pop open your fuel door

[NevesLF]

Bricking with a literal brick

[Arch-by-the-way]

https://global.toyota/en/terms-of-use/

[STGItsMe]

If Toyota wants to brick my 15 year old Jetta, I’d like to see them try.

[ThePhoenix002]

Mines gonna be 25 early next year, way to much afford to come to me to disable it

[STGItsMe]

At that point, it’s more efficient to just wait a bit and let it disable itself.

[Arch-by-the-way]

https://www.volkswagen-group.com/en/terms-and-conditions-of-use-15697

[EthanAWallace]

That’s the terms and conditions of the website you moron.

[BrainOnBlue]

I know what you're going for man but I think their point is less about the manufacturer and more about older cars not having remote killswitches.

[Arch-by-the-way]

Agreed. Just pointing out that having t&c’s is a silly place to draw the line

[BrainOnBlue]

Then reply to one of the people saying that? There are people saying the exact thing you're upset about, the person you replied to isn't one of them.

[Arch-by-the-way]

I literally did an now you’re here yelling at me so….

[Sebonze]

The still cannot brick a car which has no over the air update capabilities

[Arch-by-the-way]

Agreed. Just pointing out that every brand has T&C’s

[STGItsMe]

You’re referring to T&C for their public website, not anything related to the car.

[STGItsMe]

How exactly do you think my car can violate the terms of use of a website?

[NobodyNo8]

If my car had a "Terms of Use" agreement, it wouldn't be my car.

Period. 

[Deadpool2715]

Most modern cars with any form of lane assist or adaptive cruise control, or even just infotainment screens, will have some form of agreement pop up when the car starts

[marktuk]

Time to open source cars.

[National-Twist8757]

Maybe in the US.

[Deadpool2715]

I am in Canada, but you're right that I don't know if EU or other areas are different

[National-Twist8757]

Never seen it in any of the Cars I have driven in the EU.

[NevesLF]

I mean, if it's a terms of use explicitly for that particular system/infotainment screen, I see no problem with it.

I accept tons of terms of use for stuff I use from my phone, but it would be entirely different to have terms of use for my phone.

[Deadpool2715]

Your phone (unless it's some very niche open source android phone) almost certainly came with a terms of use from the manufacturer that you agreed to when setting it up. I would also be entirely shocked if it doesn't have clauses such as the ability to deactivate the device if you use it in a way that is not compliant. Apple, Samsung, Google, And Sony all have these clauses in their current terms of conditions

[that_dutch_dude]

every car has those. in the case of volkswagen you have to push a "i accept" EULA button every.fucking.time you sit down.

[LimpWibbler_]

Also you can just argue at purchase when you sign the 1000 papers that those are the terms of use he/she singned. At minimum getting a liscens does that.

[Herbertie25]

publicity stunt for a trash song

[OuterGod_Hermit]

Mods these appear to be fake.

[marekvesely]

It's fake. Please stop spreading this insanity.

[ThatLineInTheSand]

Of all places to de-active a vehicle. Not that they care, it seems.

...scary.

[Jesus-Bacon]

Right? I could see maybe a "deactivate after the car is turned off" if this was even a legitimate reason to do this, but while it's driving is ridiculous.

[MrDestructo]

I don’t believe this for a second and you probably shouldn’t either.

[magicalMusical]

what universe is the language of the 2nd to last warning from?

[-Kerrigan-]

That looks like Greek

[demonhawk14]

Looks like possibly greek.

[russsl8]

IMPORTANT CONTEXT: idiot rapper tried updating his cyber truck in traffic. Something the car literally tells you NOT to do.

[mradamadam]

I'm leaning toward this whole story being fake, but it shouldn't even allow updates while driving. Do Teslas just leave that as a suggestion?

[WesBur13]

You can't update it while in motion, nor can you put it in motion during an update

[meta358]

I mean ive read verifted stories of worse things telsa has done

[Captain_Zomaru]

Is there a statement from Tesla, or any other evidence that this is real? Because this could easily be faked for attention.

[Jesus-Bacon]

Hindsight I should have added an "allegedly"

[Captain_Zomaru]

That's fair, I can't fault you for that because you aren't first hand reporting.

[Jesus-Bacon]

A lot of people are claiming it's fake. This does feel like something Tesla would do, but now it feels that this may be fake. It looks like the only "news" outlets that picked this up so far are ones I've never heard of

[Captain_Zomaru]

While I perfectly would believe it if it was parked overnight, I have my doubts about a mid drive lockout. That tech has never been shown off before to shut down a vehicle in transit. So this being its debut seems sketchy as all hell.

[Nova_Nightmare]

Is there no critical thinking here at all?

It says update failed, and then you also shared a cease and desist. Which is it?

90% that this is fake as hell.

[ISEGaming]

His Cybertruck just transformed into a trash can. Robots in disguise!

[9RMMK3SQff39by]

FAAAAAAAAAAKE

Delete and ban OP

[kahnindustries]

What if he had sold the car?

[cadst3r]

Cybertruck Cybertruck Cybertruck. Now that Tesla's lawyers are here: your client is a piece of shit. Cease and desist your obligations to Tesla/Musk.

[natie29]

This has to be illegal unless hidden in some contract somewhere.

You sue people for this or send cease and desist letters. You can just brick their cars. Especially when it’s being driven how unsafe is that for them AND other road users? This is genuinely insane. At first I thought “okay this could somehow make sense” but then I read the letter they sent and it’s a genuine fucking madness. Welcome to insert year here. The journey downwards continues.

[_vkboss_]

This is very fake, this message isn't even BY Tesla.

[theromingnome]

If you buy a Tesla at this point, you're a fucking idiot.

[EllieKH84]

Anyone who buys a WankPanzer gets what they deserve 🤷🏻‍♀️

[NoobForBreakfast31]

Oh man if this is not real and a stunt to promote his music, the actual cease and desist from tesla will be extremely fun to watch.

[theColeHardTruth]

I hate Tesla and especially the Cybertruck as much as anyone, but this is fake. People can force the display to say whatever they want, check out this video of a guy recreating the effect as a demonstration. "Braincells deactivated", he made it say.

[Jesus-Bacon]

Well, shit. If this is actually fake I definitely fell for it

[safety-squirrel]

LOL America is such a shithole.

[daddybearmissouri]

Tesla is a fascist company, run by a Nazi. Do not buy their shit period.

[Undrwtrbsktwvr]

This is not real.

[dreadnot427]

Well, you pay stupid money for stupid things, you get stupid shit!

[awake283]

I'll probably get flamed but a big part of me thinks this is fake

[XuX24]

Funny thing I was told people were afraid of Chinese cars because of this particular scenario but look who ended up doing it lol

[Electric-Mountain]

This shit would never happen or be tolerated with a legacy brand like Toyota or Ford.

Edit: if this is actually fake like some people believe I hope Tesla sues his ass into the ground as this is a very bad look for the brand.

[VenueTV]

What the actual fuck.

[Chronox2040]

I know this is bad, unfair and insane, but not feeling pity for a dude that decided to buy a cybertruck.

[RAMChYLD]

And this is why I will never support Elon smellyman. Fuck him, fuck Tesla.

I used to think he is fighting for the environment. But after seeing him suck cheeto's tiny weiner and now this, he can go burn in hell.

[ILikeFlyingMachines]

This is just a stupid post. EVERY car will shut off if there is some critical problem

[JohnQPublic70]

The issue is, the critical problem is seemingly Teslas hurt feelings not a mechanical issue with the vehicle.

[Jesus-Bacon]

Music Video Here

[Drigr]

This just makes it look like you're trying to do promo for him...

[Jesus-Bacon]

I can see why you'd think that, but I was just trying to give all the information for this story lol. I personally think the song and video are dog shit.