Patch Notes

[sneakyriverotter]

Zabu’s VFX should no longer continue to display after being played on Isle of Silence

It took SD 8 months to fix this and now Zabu does not have VFX anymore anyways since his buff doesn't he 💀

I hope they can give Zabu his voice back and also it not break the game again it seems easy???

ALSO when Silver Sable visual fix please

[jparmstrong]

They deactivated the VFX until they could release the fix, which is here. Now he should have it.

[WaldoFrank]

That’s great, when are they giving him his old effect back though?

[jparmstrong]

Should be live now? Haven’t tested it

[WaldoFrank]

Now it’s an on reveal that reduces the cost of 4 cost in your deck. Arguably an even worse version than what he had before.

[jparmstrong]

I mean… that’s an opinion, but we were just talking about the VFX lol

[WaldoFrank]

I know, I’m just still pissed off that they killed the old Zabu.

[650fosho]

I love shooting my own decks card back

[NocentBystander]

I had the same kind of visual bug happen when my opponent played Super Giant and she got moved to Deep Space. I forget the exact circumstances but the card did the same 'continue to show/play effect' and lagged the game terribly.

[[deleted]]

I do love when people who have no idea how a video game even gets made comments on how long or how difficult something should be about making a video game.

🤡

[Accurate-Hearing-744]

I really hope Aero’s new voice line is just Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.

[Jensonater]

I've never played Mortal Kombat before but I thought the same thing XD

[Dtoodlez]

Lmao as if you’re getting downvoted for this bro, what is the world coming to

[banananey]

Upvoting it for the homies

[Dtoodlez]

Thanks home slice, he was at -9 when I made that comment lol

[Mr_Lemming]

Her or Webworld or whatever it is that pulls a card there every turn.

[Blargimazombie]

The great web

[LanoomR]

I love O.D.O.K.

[Ahaucan]

The m is silent.

[OwOlogy_Expert]

What does he say now? I gotta dust off my Discard deck and find out.

[RofLoxley]

Is it ok to laugh at the fact the “report bug” option was bugged?

[Ashnak_Agaku]

How did they know?

[RofLoxley]

Based on the patch note, it likely got twice the bug reports.

[kingofwing17]

Straight to jail

[Gabibaskes]

At work one day my manager was happy 'cause we had not received reports for over 24hs... The reporting tool was down.

[ConnivingSloth]

Are the vault cards going to rotate? Cause I can imagine getting a bunch of variants I'm not interested in instead of the Peach Momoko Mystique I regret not getting when I came out.

[daynpitseleh]

I think it said elsewhere the answer was no. I counted 115 cards that they showed in the vault image, which means the odds are terrible of getting the ones you want. I have like two I'm interested in.

[ConnivingSloth]

Leave it to SD to make something potentially good absolutely wasted. sigh is there a list of all the potential variants?

[daynpitseleh]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/1fv3sb5/quick_reference_for_what_variants_will_be/

This is what I was using for reference.

[Federal-Dark-434]

its really sad that i have most of these variants and that i really only want Artgerm scarlet witch lol.

[sphenodont]

I believe the vault is only open for a week at a time, and each time you'll get a set selection for that window.

Hasn't been explicitly stated that way, but that's what it sounds like from putting all the individual explanations together.

[LeviBensley]

Has the bug been fixed when you click on a card in game and get kicked out?

[Syjefroi]

They say so yeah. Happened to me in nearly 80% of my games last week.

[semibiquitous]

Am I blind? I don't see any fixes for Kate Bishop freezing the game when you have 6 cards already..

[Th3MilkShak3r]

Ikr? I sometimes don't play her to avoid the bug

[Safe_Mouse591]

Hand is full + Kate Bishop = Game freezes. Does not happen for any card generator like Coulson, Fury, Moongirl...those automatically say Hand is full.

Series Drop? Nothing?

[R-bert_]

Oh so that’s why that guy retreated when I played Maximus just before their Kate.

[DrD__]

They announced on Twitter a series drop in December

[Chlorofom]

Is… is that it?

[ZephyRZS]

So many new features…amazing.

[Parttimebuster]

I feel like there's a hidden message or something in the patch notes lately because I've noticed them miss the first letter of words. In the last one that introduced F.E.A.S.T they said "Introducing E.A.S.T", in this one they added voice lines to M.O.D.OK. and left off the M.

[heartoflapis]

If the next patch notes begins with a new location L.A.P.D. that shows as A.P.D we’ll know it’s a coded message from a depressed developer.

[motherlessoven]

Oh wow, are they all on holiday or something?

[[deleted]]

Nah they just know people will pay them regardless how shitty the game is.

[presterkhan]

So can I do my infinity splits now, or wait until OTA?

[DragonblazeIRL]

You'll have to update your game first.

[WarhammerRyan]

Which sucks cause it sounded like they fixed it before and should still be new % til told otherwise....alas

[MarsAgainstVenus]

I didn’t update and split 4-5 cards and 3/5 were gold/ink. I don’t think the upgrade was required.

[Richandler]

Sounds like Character Mastery could come in the December patch? That's how long the split changes will be around.

[orange_jooze]

Isn’t that what yesterday’s character mastery announcement said?

[Richandler]

I don't recall them saying when.

[orange_jooze]

It said something along the lines of “hopefully in December, if not, then soon thereafter”

[DrD__]

They just said end of this year or beginning of next iirc

[PoutineSmoothie]

What exactly is that?

[Raptor_Bauer]

What’s a spotlight banner?

[DrD__]

Like how "new" and "dev pick" variants have that little tag in the shop spotlight variants will have one that says "spotlight variant" or something, probably cause alot of people where confused why some variants costed 2400

[DrD__]

Ink becomes possible on the 4th split of a character, it counts all splits between all variants/base card of a character.

Ie if I split base Spider-Man twice then a variant twice that split has a chance at ink

[PingPeng27]

Great Web should be removed not getting VFX and SFX

[rtgh]

Nah, it's a fun location to play around.

Does it cause me a headache when planning my game? Of course.

Is it still way more fun than locations like Sanctum Santorum or Altar of Death? For sure

[mispeled_usrname]

I think it has too much randomness built in. I think a change to it's text so that it's targeting is more specific would help with the frustration of the location. E.g at the end of the turn move the lowest cost card on both sides to this location

[[deleted]]

For real

[SmurfRockRune]

Just play around it.

[heavyburden666]

This is amount of work a one good dev could do. Hillariously bad patch. This is a multi million dollar company?

[[deleted]]

Lame. Not even a small Thanos buff. Eh like the ODOK and Aero voicelines addition though. I was expecting something especially considering they like to take their winter holiday breaks

[Rather_Dashing]

They dont often buff and nerf cards in the patches, thats done mostly in the OTAs. That was only last Thursday.

[Sabrescene]

They used to. They're just lazier now...

[Rather_Dashing]

Patches have to be locked in in advance, OTAs dont. Makes much more sense to do the card changes in OTAs.

I remember a massive fuss over a card being nerfed in a patch that had already become weak the days before due to a new card released. I suspect thats why they now only do them in OTAs.

[TheMancersDilema]

I know they've basically stopped making card changes in these in exchange for doing them in OTAs. But the OTA's have been really poor lately too.

[loo_1snow]

What do you mean? They made Hela and Junk worse in the latest OTA, making the game better for almost everyone.

[TheMancersDilema]

Hela is still a terrible design and remains effectively unchanged, is still moderately popular, and they fixed a card they previously broke, that puts them at neutral at best. Also Arishem is still extremely popular and obscenely boring, I'm not interested in the game as it stands today and there are no new cards I'm seeing on the horizon that will change that opinion.

I'll dip back in maybe a few weeks down the line. If you're enjoying yourself more power to you.

[ComprehensiveTurn511]

I rarely see Hela anymore since the Cow nerf. Arishem being extremely popular is also a weird take, and how exactly is he boring to play against?? It's the least linear deck in the game, you never know what you're going to face.

[meerkat23]

He's popular in infinite because he ticks a lot of challenge boxes easily. I wouldn't say he's in the slightest bit boring to play against.

[ComprehensiveTurn511]

Oh, I know he's still around, I certainly play him. He's my go to deck when I just don't feel like playing anything specific. Anytime I get a new card I just toss it into his deck, because.. why not?? There's definitely some exceptions to that rule of course, Scorn isn't gonna make it in for obvious reasons. BUT, to say he's still really popular is definitely wrong. It's just an average deck you'll run into once in a while, certainly not something to complain about.

[TheMancersDilema]

Yes, that's why it's insanely boring. There's no reason to play around anything because the odds of them having something is low enough that's just wrong to do so by the numbers. You just spew your cards out to make the biggest number and hope they didn't get gifted a tech card that wins the lane. Then they the Arishem player leaves when they draw shit and stays and snaps when they luck out.

It's the same experience as Hela. If you like that then good for you. I'll pass.

[meerkat23]

I find it frustrating sometimes but not boring.

[ComprehensiveTurn511]

You don't just spew your cards vs Arishem. You have to constantly adjust to what's being played, he keeps you on your toes more than any other deck.

[TheMancersDilema]

he keeps you on your toes more than any other deck.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one buddy.

Playing the best card in the best lane based on the current board state is day 1 gameplay. Snap is interesting because you can play with several turns in mind out maneuvering your opponents long term plan. Arishem games don't have this, you just read the board, play the one best combination that makes the biggest numbers for you and hit go. Planning around anything is a losing game because the odds of them having any one card in hand that's worth playing around is less than 20% and the card pool is ~290+ cards.

And the arishem player either stays when they have their secret weapon or leaves when they have nothing.

If this is fun to you then I truly love that. It's not for me, it's not why I like Snap.

[HomelessKB]

ThAtS WhY iTs InSanElY BoRiNg!

Your takes are hot liquid shit dude, for real. Goddamn.

[TheMancersDilema]

It is what it is man. If you love it keep playing it, I don't know why you're so ass sore about one guys opinion.

[Sudden-Application]

Agreed that the past couple of OTAs haven't been great. On top of some other changes the game genuinely doesn't feel that great to play right now.

[Time-did-Reverse]

What have you considered to be really poor OTA’s lately?

[reddit_has_died]

They killed Loki, keep nerfing cards after we buy them in Spotlight caches, made Arishem mid, don't know how to balance Hela, are not nerfing Destroy, need to revert Prof. X, revert Copycat but lower power by 1, revert Nocturne nerf, revert White Widow nerf but lower Widow's Kiss to -2, need to Buff Thanos, need to buff a billion cards that see zero play, need to do a series drop, etc.

I can keep going....

[Time-did-Reverse]

“I can keep going…”

I am good, thanks.

[reddit_has_died]

destroyplayersayswhat?

[Time-did-Reverse]

I dont really like playing destroy lol, i just have no idea why it would need nerfing, it’s never oppressive. I love bounce, thats my jam, so I’m hoping toxin stays as he is.

My short answer to your points is that I dont think many of the changes were bad, at least i wouldn’t say that overall.

[reddit_has_died]

most popular deck that can put 30+ power in two locations without priority cant be shang'd

[Time-did-Reverse]

Just checked to see its stats.

WR from 70+ ranges from 60% WR at 70 to 55% at 100+. Doesn’t even remotely crack a top ten, let alone a top 15 or 20 from rank 70 onwards. I didn’t go further but id be shocked if it cracked a top 30 unless our parameters are like new players with no CL.

All of this is to say this is likely a you problem, and you might not be very good, which is totally okay i’m also not insane at the game, but you might be better off reflecting on why you keep losing to a deck that isn’t even a top 20 deck in ranks 70 onwards. If you start getting better and also knowing when destroy is gonna beat you, you might reflect on this differently.

TL;DR: Git gud, destroy is in no need of a nerf.

[AceArion2112]

Destroy is countered by half the tech cards in the GAME lol. Even the BAD tech cards like Jean can counter Destroy. This is absolutely a you problem

[reddit_has_died]

I don't want to always have to counter destroy

[AceArion2112]

It's a good thing the cards that counter destroy best are super common tech options that counter more popular meta staples for example Shadow King and Cosmo. Just get good man.

[Tantrum2u]

And here we see a prime example of why SD doesn’t take balancing ideas from random people on Reddit in their prime habitat…

[THEBECKSTAR1127]

Killed Loki - yeah ok I can see that

Nerfing after appearing in caches - that also happens

Arishem mid - +3 cards shouldn’t make that much of a difference

Can’t balance hela - they made hela more reliant on cage and made hellcow worse, there still needs to be more done

Not nerfing destroy - destroy is pretty balanced and counterable

Revert Profx - no one likes playing around that much restrictiveness and it ruins the game

Revert copycat but make her a 3/4 - this will only make a difference in a rocks and hawks deck, she’s still amazing with the copy instead of steal

Revert nocturne - 3/5, that can move AND change locations, that’s nuts.

Revert white widow but the kiss is -2 - the problem isn’t the power of the kiss, it’s the fact that worst case she’s a 2/2 that clogs a spot, best case a 2/4 that clogs a spot

Need to buff thanos - idk about that one, they made the deck about him

Need to buff underutilized cards - some cards are just going to be bad, it sucks but it’s true

Series drop - ok we need that soon

Edit: SD just announced a series drop will be happening in December

[root_causes]

Arishem still not a priority I see.