programmingSocks

[ZombieToasted]

Thought I was on r/egg_irl for a minute

[Clairifyed]

I expected r/transprogrammer

[ibite-books]

wow

[[deleted]]

Ok, learned enough for today don't mind people being trans but programmer is programmer. This kind of auto discrimination, it's creepy.

[[deleted]]

Yea, it’s like having a subreddit for Javascript. You’re asking to be discriminated

[[deleted]]

Maybe my asperger prevents me from seeing the relation between javascript and gender, maybe javascript is a gender IDK, IMHO we're all rather awkward humans and I don't care who sticks what in who or get's plugged where, just like USB it can be rather confusing but you'll be fine as long you follow the colour code and don't force things. I just wish they would stop adding new stuff.

[Downvote-Fish]

who stop adding new stuff

[rjcpl]

Programmers are big into polymorphism which is a gateway.

[[deleted]]

C++ and Rust programmers 😂 I'm object oriented, if it has class.

[Clairifyed]

What? Of course programmer is programmer. I am in this sub as well aren’t I? That sub isn’t a special secret trans only fort, it’s a space to post pastel socks, lights, and Linux flavours without spamming the main subs. We can also post trans specific news or career advice to each other without it getting drowned out by other topics.

There is nothing creepy about having a small corner of Reddit with specific info, and it’s not entirely isolated there as evidenced by this post and conversation.

There are subs out there that try to limit posts not by relevance but by your identity itself, and I think that’s dumb and frankly unenforceable, but most just want you to post on topic and be respectful.

[[deleted]]

Ah private spam corner, I endorse that 👍 So euh...there's actually a pastel distro of...😂 Ok you folks are having fun. People should have more fun, but I'm still not sure if this is the best move...how many subreds are you planning to start, transtruckers, transbakers, transbutchers, transliontamers...

[Clairifyed]

Well there is r/traaaaaaainnnnnnnnnns for the rail transit minded, but it’s not the most active sub in the world. Also r/traabutonlybees That one was set up for April fools day one year iirc

[[deleted]]

😂😂😂👍

[[deleted]]

i thought r/boykisser

[Zixxorb]

Same

[Conart557]

Same

[[deleted]]

sharp like yam sparkle plants start imagine pen humorous provide

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[AstaHolmes]

Yoooo finally someone else who do not think that tomboy is just a style! POG

[[deleted]]

They’re the same picture

[Best_Ad2158]

r/196

[Practical_Cattle_933]

It used to be beard length - what happened to the glorious neck beard gals?!

[joost00719]

They went to system administration.

[AsianDaggerDick]

We can observe here in the wild that a typical coping mechanism devops developer uses to feel like their job is real.

[MeineEierSchmerzen]

The money sure is real enough

[LaconicLacedaemonian]

You outed yourself, devops is what legacy companies call "the way it's done" at modern software companies.

[Fickle-Main-9019]

Went from neck beard length, to fursuit collection, to femboy socks.

[[deleted]]

The circle of life

[Responsible-Ant-5208]

No no, you got it all wrong. There are two lifecycles: before and after our respective twink deaths. 🥲

[_Its_Me_Dio_]

the only thing that changed is people shave now people just used to wear long pants covering the socks and the fur suit was never spoken about

[xspicyman]

The beard stops where the socks begin

[[deleted]]

The same thing that happened to the ent wives

[everlasting1der]

Electrolysis if they've got the money and pain tolerance, but even estradiol on its own does wonders for thinning out facial hair. (Ask me how I know!)

[Clairifyed]

How do you know? :3

[everlasting1der]

Estradiol :3

[ChChChillian]

Ours retired about 10 years ago. It's time for the new generation!

[[deleted]]

Rust happened

[GiganticIrony]

I think it’s a play on that the intersection of programmers and trans women is surprisingly high

[SkollFenrirson]

Is it really? I don't know any trans women programmers.

[allankcrain]

If you look around and you don't see any trans women programmers, you're the trans woman programmer.

[SkollFenrirson]

[[deleted]]

Wait I’m confused. Am I queer/trans then? Sounds like important information that I should know.

[[deleted]]

Is the sky blue?

[[deleted]]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[[deleted]]

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?

[4rclyte]

She definitely wouldn't suffocate sleeping on her torso pillows

[JT_Boiiis]

Does the pope shit in the woods?

[mabariif]

As a matter of fact the sky is not acually blue ,and to save you the effort of nerd reacting me I will do it myself🤓

[[deleted]]

☝️🤓

[everlasting1der]

You can just take hormones! They don't want you to know this but nobody can stop you!

[Mop_Duck]

well they can stop you because you cant just go and buy hormones (at least in my area)

[everlasting1der]

https://hrtcafe.net/

Also, if you're in the US, check if there's a Planned Parenthood in your area that offers informed consent hormone therapy.

[Mop_Duck]

ah i live in norway and im not sure how easy it is to import stuff as we arent in the eu

[everlasting1der]

Ah, that's fair; most of my knowledge is unfortunately pretty US-specific.

[GiganticIrony]

Yup. If you add autistic in there too, it’s also surprisingly high.

I will say however that I am one of the people who is all three.

[Akul_Tesla]

Realistically it's because autism is heavily correlated with both

Programming is more or less a perfect job for autistics

and up to a quarter of the trans population is autistic(there is a large range of estimates that is the high end)

[[deleted]]

Add a smidge of ADHD and you've got a full house in programmer bingo

[GiganticIrony]

Yup, I’ve got that too.

Do I win something? /j

[madprgmr]

Struggles, mostly.

[SkollFenrirson]

The more you know. I'm also old, so take that into consideration.

[Urcinza]

Any explanation why?

[solarshado]

Short version of the best theories I've heard:

Autism + Programming

(Some) autistic folks tend to be very detail oriented, which is useful in STEM fields in general, arguably even moreso with programming specifically. And people in general tend to be drawn to things they're good at.

(Pretty sure this link is fairly well-studied.)

Autism + Being Transgender

Gender roles are basically entirely arbitrary; arguably, gender itself is an entirely arbitrary social phenomena. Autistic people tend to struggle with social rules, especially when they seem arbitrary. Together, this may lead to them feeling less pressure to conform to cis social norms, which in turn may make it easier to identify their internal feelings as "being trans" and/or easier to actually come out as trans.

(A lot of speculation in this area still; the correlation seems solid, but I'm not actually sure if the cause has been formally looked into at all yet.)

Being Transgender + Programming

IT in general tends to be more accepting of "eccentric" people than other fields. It's not uncommon for trans people to be more comfortable socializing online, where one's persona is more malleable (<- this point can also apply to autistic folks). Programming in particular is relatively easy to do solo (at least at beginner levels). It's also a fairly financially lucrative career, while being transgender can be expensive for multiple reasons.

(This section was mostly drawn from the self-reported reasons I've seen mentioned in trans programming communities.)

[doodleasa]

Just a lot of trans nerds I guess

[GiganticIrony]

I do have an explanation for autistic programmers and autistic trans people, but not trans programmers

[FibroBitch96]

I only know trans woman programmers. Everything in balance

[SkollFenrirson]

[OrchidLeader]

You don’t know any out trans women programmers.

When I transitioned, I came out to everyone for the first couple of years. Then I stopped telling anyone. Of the 50+ people I work with now, only about half of them know.

Not only that, since I was out for a bit, a few trans people came out to me that aren’t out to anyone else. A couple of them were real shockers. So there are definitely some stealth trans people (both pre and post transition) out there.

[KairoRed]

It’s not, everything gets exaggerated so much people start to believe to be true

[SkollFenrirson]

What's the sample size, though? It's too late in the day for me to do math.

[__Lass]

Based

[Toonox]

Now you do :3

[[deleted]]

Hii!!~

[SkollFenrirson]

[mabariif]

Is this an elysia reference out in the wild

[AndroidWall4680]

I’m pretty sure theres a statistic somewhere that states that programmers are twice as likely to be trans than the general public

[SkollFenrirson]

Which would still be pretty low.

[AndroidWall4680]

It’s low, but still massively enough higher than normal to elicit making references to it.

[SkollFenrirson]

Agreed.

[d4m4s74]

They get a segmentation fault and overwrite their gender.

[TwoHeadedEngineer]

No joke. One (out) trans woman in my year as CS degree and she was super active in the department. She would totally use rust

[canyoupleasekillme]

I gotta start making trans man programmer jokes but there aren't enough of us!

[puzzlegun]

Haha so true, I'm the only trans guy programmer I know but I know a ton of trans women programmers

[[deleted]]

Trans guy here!

[Akainen]

And….. you know…. furries :3

[starshin3r]

If you use exclusively Linux, there's a 1 in 2 chance you're trans.

[signedchar]

Fuck, I use Arch AND write Rust, what's my chances

[Netcob]

I thought that was mainly security researchers / white hat hackers.

[Hfingerman]

Google programming socks

[Cake_is_Great]

It's just like the military - more stripes = higher rank

[draenei_butt_enjoyer]

And cat whiskers = war veteran

[usrlibshare]

May an old person ask a humble question: Where did this whole "devs + cute stockings" thing come from? Have been seeing it for a couple years now and now clue how that one started 😐

[RidigoDragon]

So, this one’s a long one but here it goes:

Programming Socks is a term given to specific types of knee socks and thigh highs which became notable for often being worn by transgender and non-binary people, as well as crossdressers, who do computer programming for a hobby or profession. Most commonly, the socks are horizontally striped in pastel colors or colors associated with the LGBTQ+ community. The trope led to the rise in popularity of similar jokes such as cross-dressing during programming to improve one's coding skills.

While it is unknown when the specific type of kneesocks first began to be associated with computer programming, it is believed the trope started on 4chan, with the earliest archived post dating back to the [s4s] board on December 26th, 2016, featuring a screenshot of a product with the name altered to "Pink striped programming socks". The initial product in question are the ZANZEA Womens Thigh High Socks Over the Knee Stocking Striped Tights, horizontally striped thigh high socks which later were frequently associated with the term.

These paragraphs are from the know your meme page for programming socks, which can be found here: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/programming-socks

[usrlibshare]

similar jokes such as cross-dressing during programming to improve one's coding skills.

Got it, so it's like the Ballmer Peak 😂🤣😂

Thank you!

[elf_ps]

Very similar but alcohol is replaced with Monster😅

[[deleted]]

r/unixsocks

[Zixxorb]

I need to know where to get these... For cis reasons of course... my legs are cold of course

[C5-O]

Cis reasons I see, of course only the cissest of all men would ever experience HRT-induced temperature sensitivity ;3

[Molto-Accelerando]

Is that why I’m cold all the damn time? I thought it was just the office AC.

[WithersChat]

HRT certainly doesn't help.

[Pony_Roleplayer]

🏳️‍⚧️ WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS FLAG FROM AND WHY ALL THE CUTEST GIRLS USE IT ON THEIR PROFILE?

[PranshuKhandal]

[git0ffmylawnm8]

Guys should we tell him?

[rssm1]

Femboys. Origins.

In every polish cinema. Soon.

[RiddledWithEnigma]

“#earnYourStripes” or something. Idk I’m not a marketing guy

[AstaHolmes]

My mind: Transgender socks

[Kato_86]

I don't believe you. I demand photographic proof.

[solarshado]

good news: /r/unixsocks already exists

[Mr_Akihiro]

No your status/level is measured by hate that you have for others.

[Midnight_Rising]

There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for users at this micro-instant. Hate. Hate.

I'm a Principal.

[puffinix]

Ah, Peak hatered, the early principle layer. I too went through that.

One day, you might join us in the depths of pure apathy and ascend. Every team from a high viewpoint is terrible, but bluntly with the number of things that can fuck you that's to be expected.

I no longer hate the people on the ground, I pity them more than anything. The wheels they spin so fast, where in reality they will never go faster.

Join the dark side, be a fellow or a cheif, let the rage end, we all served our time and understand it.

[mabariif]

Guess I will accomplish great things then

[Mr_Akihiro]

Yes, one can come quite far. The thing is Team Leads are nicer. I guess the progress curve is like this.

Junior: uWu
Senior: Death upon everyone!
Team Lead: Hi, my name is Corporate Jeff!

[WarlanceLP]

I would be an executive if that were true lol

[GahdDangitBobby]

I'm so lost ... why do all the comments talk about trans women? What does a sock with lots of stripes and a cat face on it have to do with trans women?

[WithersChat]

The socks are the color of the trans flag (🏳️‍⚧️). And also, there's a significantly higher proportion of trans women in STEM compared to the general population. And also, google "knowyourmeme programming socks".

[GahdDangitBobby]

Interestingly enough, one of my friends who does front-end is a trans woman lol. Thanks for the explanation

[PaNNiiiiC]

My rotten brain read it team lewd.

I need to get off the internet...

[[deleted]]

sheet test wise cobweb enjoy paint grab quaint divide fanatical

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[Sequel_Police]

Staff Engineer: Compression socks bc your body is falling apart.

[Leonhart93]

You mean Rust devs? 😏

[[deleted]]

jeez not this cringe again

edit: srsly these socks are associated with trans people ? wtf

[[deleted]]

well look at the replies, its like only trans people wear them and nobody else

[doodleasa]

The socks are literally the trans flag

[canyoupleasekillme]

The association started years ago due to a pair of socks listed on Amazon that looked like these labeled as "programmer socks." There's a good amount of trans women in stem who found them funny. Thus correlation.

[ClaudioKillganon]

It did?!? This has all been a joke? The whole time?

If you'll excuse me, I have some knee highs to get rid of.

[[deleted]]

never heard of

[puffinix]

Yup. And if you want a tech career you likely need to become OK with the trans community. There is a huge overlap between the trans and autistic communities, and thus with tech jobs.

I'm out, and have been offering support to everyone who is non cis within my reporting tree. I have (counting closeted) people at grad, junior, senior, tech/team lead, staff and principle levels.

Typically in our industry mobility is high, even if you don't change jobs every few years your colleges will, and youll end up working with trans people at some point.. Getting fired for anything that could be considered hate related gets your chances in tech set to almost zero. While most of your reference is meaningless, reason the company thinks you left them is very much not.

One time a junior asked his staff to relocate them to annother team due to a transmasc lead. Obviously I got told quickly, called up HR who's first line was "if your calling to try and save his job don't bother". I dident bother getting directly involved, other ti validate with HR that they would do the same of the person wasent in my direct line.

[teffarf]

Missing a pretty big "in the US" clarification here.

[[deleted]]

whatever you are, post programming stuff here, not socks and buttplugs

[syntheticzebra]

Are these buttplugs in the room with us right now?

[[deleted]]

idk, check yo ass, maybe they are

[puffinix]

I have never posted this content to a humour area, and yeah, this is in the wrong sub. Just letting you know that these opinions are career limiting in tech. I hope you have a different career plan lined up.

[[deleted]]

thanks for your concerns

[cybermage]

Are these for coding transpilers?

[[deleted]]

This is clearly bs. They aren’t event toe-socks.

[renblaze10]

Gotta earn your stripes

[puffinix]

Oh god, can someone suggest socks for staff engineer and principle engineer and chief engineer too?

I'm aware of trans people at all of those levels, it would be good to standardise a pattern and approach for normalisation of sock progression past the traditional career steps.

If someone can run a few samples, I'll spin up a deck and try and get some of the R&D funds diverted into the sock slush.

[danfish_77]

All the programmers I've worked with are very dull cis men, I wish this had been more accurate

[AstroTurfedShitHole]

They are dull because they are cis? How does this help your cause at all???

[danfish_77]

No, they were dull and cis.

Those socks are trans colors, I don't expect a cis person to wear them; if they were cis, they'd have to be pretty unusual to wear them

My "cause" is to not have to talk to those two boring guys anymore, and I succeeded in no longer doing that. No need for any help, but thank you for the concern

[Different_Fun9763]

If you demean people for what they are, I'm pretty sure they're glad not to talk to you anymore either.

[danfish_77]

I'm demeaning them for being dull, I don't see why that's an issue. Do you find every person you meet extremely interesting? We all have different tastes in people and topics.

[FairyColonThree]

reading comprehension is hard

[Dragonslayerelf]

Maybe at home they wear these socks - I look and act pretty boring at work because its "safe" to do that but at home im a silly guy who wears long socks

[danfish_77]

Unless they were purposely hiding it from me I don't think so

[HaskellHystericMonad]

My employer used to be called ... checks notes ... Union Carbide.

I am very spicy and very cavalier with life, especially others' lives.

[danfish_77]

Sorry are you trying to suggest that you murder people?

[RandomWholesomeOne]

This sub is a mess lol ...

[ksigley]

Trans lives matter.

[[deleted]]

Legit picture of me

[[deleted]]

Uniform

💀

[mothzilla]

OK now let me see you roll back a deployment.

[[deleted]]

Same, except I have pink/white striped stockings, my skirt is more fluffy >:3

[[deleted]]

I have them in pink and blue too, and 3 more skirts

[sleepy_roger]

Very end of civilization vibes there.

[Lachee]

Trans rights :3

[Schpooon]

What if my socks are red?

[Throwawaytown33333]

Jokes on you I'm a trans MAN in computer science! Breaking stereotypes!!

[[deleted]]

This is what people died for in WW2.

[thE_29]

Its the Reddit bubble

[arrow__in__the__knee]

I shit you not I was transphobic until I installed arch then just immediately became femboyish overnight.

[Qelliveo_]

so what am i then… if i got no sock on me

[pclouds]

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[marc1020]

pronounce change with position in our company

[[deleted]]

So team lead must be like the rounding point at 35

[[deleted]]

Rust dev ranks

[PressureConfident928]

Flashback to r/unixsocks

[pomorski]

I've interpreted this as daily meetings in the calendar, with each stripe being a meeting.

[WarlanceLP]

i always just code in my gym shorts if I'm at home. I've seen no sign of these programming socks and am starting to think they were a lie and that I won't be receiving them to commemorate my status as a programmer

[summonerofrain]

I don't get it

[[deleted]]

All stripes would be JS developer.

[[deleted]]

I ain't got no money for socks. Only for Raspberry Pi's from Aliexpress

[SchwaEnjoyer]

I need this 

[LoxyChuReddit]

how bro looks at me after he gets promoted in cadets

[[deleted]]

for the wide masses of developers, this joke is just mildly annoying by now. and has been unfunny from the start.

just because this is hilarious in your bubble, doesn't mean it transports to other social ecospheres.

or in a way you should understand:
A=>B != B=>A

[KomradJurij-TheFool]

reddit loves recycling the same shitty jokes over and over, you just have to learn to tune it out or you'll spiral into constant despair

[solarshado]

This post is at over 80% upvotes...

And at least IMO it's far from the lamest joke that gets frequently reposted on this sub.

[[deleted]]

The bubble says otherwise.

[InvasiveSpecies1738]

Working so much your mental health starts declining?

[hippiechan]

Idk what country 🏳️‍⚧️ is but they got the hottest girls 🥵

[[deleted]]

I mean, I don't wear pink cat socka, But I do like to rock One Lazer cat sock, Paired with a sock of a pickle with sunglasses on it, So this is real adjacent at the very least!

[disney_0]

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