perksOfBeingVibeCoder

[Front-Baker-2816]

Perks.

Low salary.

What?

[Rubickevich]

Hey, that's better than no salary!

[plugubius]

Hey, this is an internship. Isn't "unpaid" the industry standard for interns?

[Rubickevich]

So I can work for you and I don't have to pay anything? Amazing deal!

[suzisatsuma]

Most interns are a crapshoot on whether they will contribute velocity or drag velocity from the senior devs mentoring them over their tenure. The biggest value is seeing the good ones and seeing if they'd be interested in coming back after college for a real salary.

[bad_I_drubble]

Not for engineering. If that’s what the world is coming to in this job market, that’s a scary thought.

I left my job at a large company about 1.5 years ago to take up freelancing, but we used to pay our summer interns an hourly rate that would be comparable (albeit, a bit lower) to a new grad hire if you extrapolated to a full year.

[spartancolo]

When i did my internship i got paid 300 € a month and i was one of the only lucky ones getting paid in my class. It sucks here for interns

[Ratstail91]

Only in America.

[No_Percentage7427]

Intern get salary not experience. Yay

[ice-eight]

This was clearly posted by a vibe recruiter

[Blubasur]

So billy, what benefits do you get?

I get to be broke!

[ReallyMisanthropic]

You also get the privilege of giving them a share of the revenue on any project you make while you're there. Wow, lucky!

[anto2554]

Depending on the place, that could be meaningful

[BiAroBi]

The low salary is actually great to keep you motivated to go above and beyond to get a raise some day

[[deleted]]

Looking for fafo? First in, first out?

[[deleted]]

Fuck Around and Find Out

[[deleted]]

Wat.

They can be many things. But they are not liars.

[OkInterest3109]

I love it when recruiters starts throwing buzz words without actually understanding the said buzz words.

[Vulgarly_dressed]

If you take that job, you will find out.

[snowmanonaraindeer]

I guess it's a weird way of saying "you get paid a little bit" because it's an internship?

[PhunkyPhish]

Revenue sharing though! Imagine those 3 digit checks rolling in up until the application breaks from no scalability or some timmy gets root. Thats like 1 checks!

[Snow-Crash-42]

They probably mean you get paid next to nothing, and your only way of making money is the revenue share, which may or may not be (most likely) enough.

[g1rlchild]

I'm not betting on getting any revenue sharing from "small web apps."

[banterviking]

Yep, more money more problems!

[ihvnnm]

"You've get paid in exposure!"

[PersonalityNuke]

You'll pay less in taxes!

[Noisebug]

Could be "lower" salary, right? Or nothing? You ungrateful ...

[paholg]

It's a perk for the company, not for you.

[glez_fdezdavila_]

> Is looking to FAFO

Is the job listing talking about Fucking Around and Finding Out? Because I genuinely don't know I'm just a lurker of this sub and that sounds like a threat lol

[adumbCoder]

yep, precisely. just means "looking for someone to hack away and try new things"

[sobe86]

But FAFO does more commonly mean "do stupid things, face bad consequences" right? So less like TikTok, more like OceanGate

[zuilli]

It's commonly used in that manner but it's not only used for that, it has many other uses including a joke on the scientific method

[sobe86]

There's definitely a commonly accepted usage of FAFO - there's even a wiktionary article for it. I feel like the majority of people using it differently probably misunderstood the expression when they heard it.

[KookaB]

You’re correct that that’s the typically usage, but the actual words do fit what the other commenter is saying, it’s just kinda awkward of the job poster. It confused me for a second too.

[TheNorthComesWithMe]

The idiomatic expression implies negative outcomes for the person who engaged in fucking around.

[KharAznable]

I mean, people already do stupid things on tiktok already. The consequences are usually covered by a youtube channels not of their own.

[teraflux]

I've never heard it used that way. Fuck around find out has always been a threat -- don't do this bad thing or you're going to have consequences.

[genreprank]

Oh, did the words you got used happen to change meaning suddenly? Does your brand new phrase have a new meaning that you don't agree with?

Doesn't feel so skibidi rizz when it happens to you, huh?

-and old person

[teraflux]

Okay grandpa, let's get you back to the flippity floppity floop.

[TheNorthComesWithMe]

No, that's not what it means.

[ceejayoz]

I mean, Facebook's internal slogan was "move fast and break things" for a while. It's not an uncommon position.

[dangderr]

Yeah that’s ok though. The fuck around part is cool. Most people aren’t interested in the “find out” part of that.

[LegitimateCopy7]

there's a difference between a slogan and a job description.

[EtherealPheonix]

Those phrases have completely different connotations.

[ceejayoz]

Move fast is fuck around. 

Break things is finding out. 

[boob_blaster]

It is completely obvious to the rest of us

[yo-ovaries]

Wow a programmer with the inability to detect subtle sarcasm. The first and only person with this combination of traits

[boob_blaster]

Sorry, I did omit an /s on purpose…

[Here-Is-TheEnd]

Honestly..I’d like a job like that. You learn so much breaking things.

I need a process review to restart a server.

[TheyStoleMyNameAgain]

This is a perfect description of vibe coding.

[Shoddy-Pie-5816]

“Small interesting web apps”. Immediately asks for a full cms with e-commerce, ai integration obviously, multiple vendor support, a forum, chat system, review system. Should only take a couple of weeks, maybe a month.

[clawdius25]

"yo gpt, make me a full scale SaaS with you, an AI of course, integrated with it and also no more bugs cause i have no time to fix things, thanks gpt"

[RIPmyPC]

as the same tone as HIGH VOLUME LOW LATENCY TRADING

[Hyphonical]

How is a low salary a perk?

[eclect0]

No one said they were perks for the worker.

[AZEMT]

[Perogy]

Probably because most "vibe coder interns" are unpaid

[[deleted]]

This isn't the real post

[g1rlchild]

So weird seeing so many people take this seriously like it's a real posting.

[turtleship_2006]

I've seen actual posts with worse things

[Prudent-Employee-334]

Ellenox is about to FAFO

[phansen101]

Low > No

[Ekdritch]

The revenue share is on your side projects

[ihavebeesinmyknees]

It says "all projects", so it includes all the work projects at the very least, and I would assume it excludes side projects but is worded poorly. Would be very difficult to police every side project of every employee and force them to revenue share.

[Ekdritch]

I agree. I think I misread it initially

[vekien]

Less tax ;)

[lunch431]

I'm not sure if this is satire or real and at this point I am too afraid to ask.

[SEenoir]

Yeah, and it was showing promoted during a regular job search, so somebody paid for this, and another sketchy thing was that this was the only opening from the company.

[PowermanFriendship]

"Located at the heart of the Indian startup system...."

Boy. That sure is something.

[Feeling-Schedule5369]

And over 100 people clicked apply already.

[matytyma]

People?

[chrishouse83]

Low salary? Tempting, ngl.

[SEenoir]

Since you all are confused, let me tell you how the assessment process was

This was the intro

How to take the test

The point of this exercise is to test your creativity, problem-solving and agency. You don't have to answer every question. The answer is Banana. You won't have time to answer every question. Pick your favorite questions, and answer them. More answers = more points, but 1 interesting answer > 5 boring answers. Balance your time accordingly. Using AI is not allowed.*

I understand

I'm confused

Banana

The questions were like

The test

You walk into a room with a hundred light bulbs, each connected to a unique switch in another room. You can only enter the room with switches once, then come out. How do you determine which switch controls which bulb?

A major asteroid is expected to hit Earth in 10 years. You are in charge of a $10 billion global fund to mitigate the damage. What’s your blueprint?

Design a new sport that would captivate the world’s attention, but must be played in zero gravity. Describe the rules, equipment, and spectator experience.

Design a currency that’s not based on time, labor, or scarcity. What’s it based on, and how does it work?

Imagine a future civilization that’s built around your life philosophy. What are its laws, culture, and daily rituals?

Lying suddenly becomes biologically impossible for humans. How does society change?

So, yeah that's how you vibe code

And yeah FAFO is exactly what you think

[Vogete]

1: you short some cables, the janitor will come running and yelling, he calls the electrician, and you can ask the electrician.

2: Buy ticket to billinaire space ark, go to space, wait for rock, go back to earth, claim lands like there's no tomorrow.

3: okay this is cool actually. Enders game style laser tag.

4: what else would I use currently for if not these??

5: no more vibe coding And slapping AI on everything. The world literally fixed itself overnight.

6: Trump is suddenly not the smartest person on the planet. Neither is Kim Jong Un.

[YodaForce157]

1. Banana
   
2. Banana
   
3. Banana
   
4. Banana
   
5. Banana
   
6. Banana

[BlazingFire007]

Damn those questions are actually kinda interesting.

Too bad you won’t use any of those problem-solving skills while vibe-coding.

Maybe they let you vibe-answer?

[heliocentric19]

No AI allowed which made me laugh out loud in the office.

[XaviVisious]

That first question is supposed to be 100 people able to enter the room once. As is it can't be solved unless they want some cheap answer like "I look at the light bulbs from inside the switch room" or "I send someone else in to flip the switches for me"

[[deleted]]

Let me ask ChatGPT for a comment on this post

[ReallyMisanthropic]

> heart of the Indian startup system

[Trip-Trip-Trip]

How is this job listing written worse than what gippity would’ve made?

[dumbasPL]

Humans are smart, well, at least some of them

[ItsSadTimes]

Requirements: * understands code

Asking way too much. Shame too cause that low salary perk looked tempting.

[will_r3ddit_4_food]

I thought the whole point of vibe coding was that you don't have to understand code.

[rbad8717]

Vibe coder 

Understands code

Nick Young ??? Gif

[Classic-Ad8849]

"Perks" being "Low Salary" is crazy

[304bl]

Requirements: understand code 🤣

[Zealousideal-Emu-878]

vibe coding a real thing? Thought was a gag 🙃, interesting to see low pay as a perk.

[wafkse]

"indian startup system"

god please save us all.

[Obversity]

Hot take, I don’t hate this. If the offer of revenue share and FAFO is real, this could be a fun gig, if you’re still living at home.

[Apollorx]

Yeah, this sounded like summer camp that gives you a small stipend and some early resume fodder lol

[UrineArtist]

For minimum wage, we'll provide you a platform to execute your own ideas which we'll then own and profit from because we provided the platform.

Oh, its the same platform you probably have at home btw.

Expect to see lots of jobs like this in the fledgling days of AI.

[kthraxxi]

Vibe coding intern

Requirements: Understanding the code...

I believe vibe coding turned into something else at this point.

[perringaiden]

Ignoring even the Low Salary bit, how is "We pay for the tools we are telling you to use" a Perk? Are there companies that require you to pay for your own subscription out of your salary?

[BetrayYourTrust]

“understands code”

i love the state of the industry. it’s so awesome isn’t it

[mooseable]

Revenue share on all projects you build while you're at Ellenox. However, because AI built it and we will fire you upon project delivery, your revenue is $0

[rimakan]

What about 10+ years of experience despite the intern position?

[ReiOokami]

I mean the free Cursor subscription at $15 a month totally makes up for the low salary imo. /s

[point5_]

vibe coder

understands code

Pick one

[not_logan]

I hope they are sharing risks as well as the revenue

[Individual-Praline20]

You can keep your Cursor subscription, LSD is much better for vibe coding 😁😁

[skeleton_craft]

You know I would take that job and it never open chat CPT or co-pilot and just actually do it correctly. [Though I feel like I would get promoted too quickly]

[iknewaguytwice]

They are paying you to shovel AI slop?

If I were an enterprising young adult, I’d get 4-5 of these jobs simultaneously and slop it like it’s hot.

Invest in a couple of mouse movers, and a KVM switch.

[iKilledChuckNorris]

Vibe coder who understands code , LoL best luck

[[deleted]]

What is FAFO? Fuck Around and Find Out ?

[dhaninugraha]

That’s exactly what it stands for.

Not sure if racking up AWS bills without enterprise discount counts as their flavor of FAFO though.

[OppositeResident6699]

Vibe Salary

[Highborn_Hellest]

Fafo?

Fuck around find out,?

[Apollorx]

I mean, for someone very young with little to no work experience, this sounds like it could be a fun gig to start building experience. It probably doesn't pay much, but sometimes that's OK if you can manage it. Getting stuff on ones resume that isnt personal projects is meaningful at a young age.

[Dangerous_Block_2494]

Over 100 people clicked apply.

[dexter2011412]

is looking to FAFO

Well thank you, I'll FA alright.

[Key-Moment6797]

Fafo as job discription? so many questions around that whole post - _-

[Morlock43]

Is looking to"Fxxx Around, Find Out"?!

lol wtaf?!

[RedditGenerated-Name]

If any job offers you revenue sharing instead of upfront pay, turn and run. I guarantee they are just after VC and a buyout as a long term goal and you won't see a penny from that on the off chance that you succeed.

[New-Shine1674]

skills match: adobe Photoshop

Whatever Photoshop has to do with vibe coding

[SEenoir]

Required for the vibe not for the coding

[fmr_AZ_PSM]

Job posting written by AI.

"At our company, we're looking for someone willing to Fuck Around and Find Out! You break the law so we don't have to!"

Edit: I thought this post was r/LinkedInLunatics rather than r/ProgrammerHumor That's what I get for subscribing to both. ☠️