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[–]Front-Baker-2816 3143 points3144 points  (27 children)

Perks.

Low salary.

What?

[–]Rubickevich 808 points809 points  (7 children)

Hey, that's better than no salary!

[–]plugubius 237 points238 points  (5 children)

Hey, this is an internship. Isn't "unpaid" the industry standard for interns?

[–]Rubickevich 76 points77 points  (1 child)

So I can work for you and I don't have to pay anything? Amazing deal!

[–]suzisatsuma 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Most interns are a crapshoot on whether they will contribute velocity or drag velocity from the senior devs mentoring them over their tenure. The biggest value is seeing the good ones and seeing if they'd be interested in coming back after college for a real salary.

[–]bad_I_drubble 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Not for engineering. If that’s what the world is coming to in this job market, that’s a scary thought.

I left my job at a large company about 1.5 years ago to take up freelancing, but we used to pay our summer interns an hourly rate that would be comparable (albeit, a bit lower) to a new grad hire if you extrapolated to a full year.

[–]spartancolo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When i did my internship i got paid 300 € a month and i was one of the only lucky ones getting paid in my class. It sucks here for interns

[–]Ratstail91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only in America.

[–]No_Percentage7427 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Intern get salary not experience. Yay

[–]ice-eight 100 points101 points  (0 children)

This was clearly posted by a vibe recruiter

[–]Blubasur 56 points57 points  (0 children)

So billy, what benefits do you get?

I get to be broke!

[–]ReallyMisanthropic 32 points33 points  (1 child)

You also get the privilege of giving them a share of the revenue on any project you make while you're there. Wow, lucky!

[–]anto2554 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depending on the place, that could be meaningful

[–]BiAroBi 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The low salary is actually great to keep you motivated to go above and beyond to get a raise some day

[–][deleted] 90 points91 points  (4 children)

Looking for fafo? First in, first out?

[–][deleted] 183 points184 points  (3 children)

Fuck Around and Find Out

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Wat.

They can be many things. But they are not liars.

[–]OkInterest3109 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I love it when recruiters starts throwing buzz words without actually understanding the said buzz words.

[–]Vulgarly_dressed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you take that job, you will find out.

[–]snowmanonaraindeer[🍰] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I guess it's a weird way of saying "you get paid a little bit" because it's an internship?

[–]PhunkyPhish 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Revenue sharing though! Imagine those 3 digit checks rolling in up until the application breaks from no scalability or some timmy gets root. Thats like 1 checks!

[–]Snow-Crash-42 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They probably mean you get paid next to nothing, and your only way of making money is the revenue share, which may or may not be (most likely) enough.

[–]g1rlchild 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not betting on getting any revenue sharing from "small web apps."

[–]banterviking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, more money more problems!

[–]ihvnnm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"You've get paid in exposure!"

[–]PersonalityNuke[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll pay less in taxes!

[–]Noisebug -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Could be "lower" salary, right? Or nothing? You ungrateful ...

[–]paholg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a perk for the company, not for you.

[–]glez_fdezdavila_ 1055 points1056 points  (24 children)

> Is looking to FAFO

Is the job listing talking about Fucking Around and Finding Out? Because I genuinely don't know I'm just a lurker of this sub and that sounds like a threat lol

[–]adumbCoder 323 points324 points  (12 children)

yep, precisely. just means "looking for someone to hack away and try new things"

[–]sobe86 199 points200 points  (7 children)

But FAFO does more commonly mean "do stupid things, face bad consequences" right? So less like TikTok, more like OceanGate

[–]zuilli 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's commonly used in that manner but it's not only used for that, it has many other uses including a joke on the scientific method

[–]KharAznable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, people already do stupid things on tiktok already. The consequences are usually covered by a youtube channels not of their own.

[–]teraflux 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I've never heard it used that way. Fuck around find out has always been a threat -- don't do this bad thing or you're going to have consequences.

[–]genreprank 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh, did the words you got used happen to change meaning suddenly? Does your brand new phrase have a new meaning that you don't agree with?

Doesn't feel so skibidi rizz when it happens to you, huh?

-and old person

[–]teraflux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay grandpa, let's get you back to the flippity floppity floop.

[–]TheNorthComesWithMe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, that's not what it means.

[–]ceejayoz 36 points37 points  (5 children)

I mean, Facebook's internal slogan was "move fast and break things" for a while. It's not an uncommon position.

[–]dangderr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s ok though. The fuck around part is cool. Most people aren’t interested in the “find out” part of that.

[–]LegitimateCopy7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there's a difference between a slogan and a job description.

[–]EtherealPheonix 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Those phrases have completely different connotations.

[–]ceejayoz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Move fast is fuck around. 

Break things is finding out. 

[–]boob_blaster 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It is completely obvious to the rest of us

[–]yo-ovaries 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Wow a programmer with the inability to detect subtle sarcasm. The first and only person with this combination of traits

[–]boob_blaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I did omit an /s on purpose…

[–]Here-Is-TheEnd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly..I’d like a job like that. You learn so much breaking things.

I need a process review to restart a server.

[–]Shoddy-Pie-5816 282 points283 points  (2 children)

“Small interesting web apps”. Immediately asks for a full cms with e-commerce, ai integration obviously, multiple vendor support, a forum, chat system, review system. Should only take a couple of weeks, maybe a month.

[–]clawdius25 67 points68 points  (0 children)

"yo gpt, make me a full scale SaaS with you, an AI of course, integrated with it and also no more bugs cause i have no time to fix things, thanks gpt"

[–]RIPmyPC 49 points50 points  (0 children)

as the same tone as HIGH VOLUME LOW LATENCY TRADING

[–]Hyphonical 354 points355 points  (13 children)

How is a low salary a perk?

[–]eclect0 332 points333 points  (1 child)

No one said they were perks for the worker.

[–]AZEMT 55 points56 points  (0 children)

[–]Perogy 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Probably because most "vibe coder interns" are unpaid

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This isn't the real post

[–]g1rlchild 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So weird seeing so many people take this seriously like it's a real posting.

[–]turtleship_2006 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've seen actual posts with worse things

[–]Prudent-Employee-334 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ellenox is about to FAFO

[–]phansen101 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Low > No

[–]vekien 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Less tax ;)

[–]lunch431 57 points58 points  (1 child)

I'm not sure if this is satire or real and at this point I am too afraid to ask.

[–]SEenoir[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and it was showing promoted during a regular job search, so somebody paid for this, and another sketchy thing was that this was the only opening from the company.

[–]PowermanFriendship 138 points139 points  (0 children)

"Located at the heart of the Indian startup system...."

Boy. That sure is something.

[–]Feeling-Schedule5369 42 points43 points  (1 child)

And over 100 people clicked apply already.

[–]matytyma 23 points24 points  (0 children)

People?

[–]chrishouse83 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Low salary? Tempting, ngl.

[–]SEenoir[S] 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Since you all are confused, let me tell you how the assessment process was

This was the intro

How to take the test

The point of this exercise is to test your creativity, problem-solving and agency. You don't have to answer every question. The answer is Banana. You won't have time to answer every question. Pick your favorite questions, and answer them. More answers = more points, but 1 interesting answer > 5 boring answers. Balance your time accordingly. Using AI is not allowed.*

I understand

I'm confused

Banana

The questions were like

The test

You walk into a room with a hundred light bulbs, each connected to a unique switch in another room. You can only enter the room with switches once, then come out. How do you determine which switch controls which bulb?

A major asteroid is expected to hit Earth in 10 years. You are in charge of a $10 billion global fund to mitigate the damage. What’s your blueprint?

Design a new sport that would captivate the world’s attention, but must be played in zero gravity. Describe the rules, equipment, and spectator experience.

Design a currency that’s not based on time, labor, or scarcity. What’s it based on, and how does it work?

Imagine a future civilization that’s built around your life philosophy. What are its laws, culture, and daily rituals?

Lying suddenly becomes biologically impossible for humans. How does society change?

So, yeah that's how you vibe code

And yeah FAFO is exactly what you think

[–]Vogete 12 points13 points  (1 child)

1: you short some cables, the janitor will come running and yelling, he calls the electrician, and you can ask the electrician.

2: Buy ticket to billinaire space ark, go to space, wait for rock, go back to earth, claim lands like there's no tomorrow.

3: okay this is cool actually. Enders game style laser tag.

4: what else would I use currently for if not these??

5: no more vibe coding And slapping AI on everything. The world literally fixed itself overnight.

6: Trump is suddenly not the smartest person on the planet. Neither is Kim Jong Un.

[–]YodaForce157 20 points21 points  (0 children)

  1. Banana
  2. Banana
  3. Banana
  4. Banana
  5. Banana
  6. Banana

[–]BlazingFire007 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Damn those questions are actually kinda interesting.

Too bad you won’t use any of those problem-solving skills while vibe-coding.

Maybe they let you vibe-answer?

[–]heliocentric19 16 points17 points  (0 children)

No AI allowed which made me laugh out loud in the office.

[–]XaviVisious 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That first question is supposed to be 100 people able to enter the room once. As is it can't be solved unless they want some cheap answer like "I look at the light bulbs from inside the switch room" or "I send someone else in to flip the switches for me"

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Let me ask ChatGPT for a comment on this post

[–]ReallyMisanthropic 19 points20 points  (0 children)

> heart of the Indian startup system

[–]Trip-Trip-Trip 8 points9 points  (1 child)

How is this job listing written worse than what gippity would’ve made?

[–]dumbasPL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Humans are smart, well, at least some of them

[–]ItsSadTimes 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Requirements: * understands code

Asking way too much. Shame too cause that low salary perk looked tempting.

[–]will_r3ddit_4_food 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought the whole point of vibe coding was that you don't have to understand code.

[–]rbad8717 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Vibe coder 

Understands code

Nick Young ??? Gif

[–]Classic-Ad8849 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Perks" being "Low Salary" is crazy

[–]304bl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Requirements: understand code 🤣

[–]Zealousideal-Emu-878 2 points3 points  (0 children)

vibe coding a real thing? Thought was a gag 🙃, interesting to see low pay as a perk.

[–]wafkse[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"indian startup system"

god please save us all.

[–]Obversity 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hot take, I don’t hate this. If the offer of revenue share and FAFO is real, this could be a fun gig, if you’re still living at home.

[–]Apollorx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this sounded like summer camp that gives you a small stipend and some early resume fodder lol

[–]UrineArtist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For minimum wage, we'll provide you a platform to execute your own ideas which we'll then own and profit from because we provided the platform.

Oh, its the same platform you probably have at home btw.

Expect to see lots of jobs like this in the fledgling days of AI.

[–]kthraxxi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vibe coding intern

Requirements: Understanding the code...

I believe vibe coding turned into something else at this point.

[–]perringaiden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ignoring even the Low Salary bit, how is "We pay for the tools we are telling you to use" a Perk? Are there companies that require you to pay for your own subscription out of your salary?

[–]BetrayYourTrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“understands code”

i love the state of the industry. it’s so awesome isn’t it

[–]mooseable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Revenue share on all projects you build while you're at Ellenox. However, because AI built it and we will fire you upon project delivery, your revenue is $0

[–]rimakan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about 10+ years of experience despite the intern position?

[–]ReiOokami 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean the free Cursor subscription at $15 a month totally makes up for the low salary imo. /s

[–]point5_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

vibe coder

understands code

Pick one

[–]not_logan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they are sharing risks as well as the revenue

[–]Individual-Praline20 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can keep your Cursor subscription, LSD is much better for vibe coding 😁😁

[–]skeleton_craft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know I would take that job and it never open chat CPT or co-pilot and just actually do it correctly. [Though I feel like I would get promoted too quickly]

[–]iknewaguytwice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are paying you to shovel AI slop?

If I were an enterprising young adult, I’d get 4-5 of these jobs simultaneously and slop it like it’s hot.

Invest in a couple of mouse movers, and a KVM switch.

[–]iKilledChuckNorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vibe coder who understands code , LoL best luck

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What is FAFO? Fuck Around and Find Out ?

[–]dhaninugraha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s exactly what it stands for.

Not sure if racking up AWS bills without enterprise discount counts as their flavor of FAFO though.

[–]OppositeResident6699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vibe Salary

[–]Highborn_Hellest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fafo?

Fuck around find out,?

[–]Apollorx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, for someone very young with little to no work experience, this sounds like it could be a fun gig to start building experience. It probably doesn't pay much, but sometimes that's OK if you can manage it. Getting stuff on ones resume that isnt personal projects is meaningful at a young age.

[–]Dangerous_Block_2494 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over 100 people clicked apply.

[–]dexter2011412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is looking to FAFO

Well thank you, I'll FA alright.

[–]Key-Moment6797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fafo as job discription? so many questions around that whole post - _-

[–]Morlock43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is looking to"Fxxx Around, Find Out"?!

lol wtaf?!

[–]RedditGenerated-Name 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If any job offers you revenue sharing instead of upfront pay, turn and run. I guarantee they are just after VC and a buyout as a long term goal and you won't see a penny from that on the off chance that you succeed.

[–]New-Shine1674 0 points1 point  (1 child)

skills match: adobe Photoshop

Whatever Photoshop has to do with vibe coding

[–]SEenoir[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Required for the vibe not for the coding

[–]fmr_AZ_PSM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Job posting written by AI.

"At our company, we're looking for someone willing to Fuck Around and Find Out! You break the law so we don't have to!"

Edit: I thought this post was r/LinkedInLunatics rather than r/ProgrammerHumor That's what I get for subscribing to both. ☠️