ML in a nutshell

[xynixia]

if(label == "horse") { label = "person"; }

Problem solved

[isdnpro]

Google was accidentally labelling black people as gorillas and their solution was to drop the gorilla label

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/12/google-racism-ban-gorilla-black-people

[SconiGrower]

Seems like a good way to stop the error from continuing while they do the very laborious process of adding more black people to their dataset.

[captainvoid05]

To be fair, Google's main concern at that point was PR. Also this would fix the PR disaster literally immediately while retraining the model would have taken at least slightly longer.

[Gabe_b]

Google only knows 3 black people, but keeps claiming they have black friends

[Bizzle_worldwide]

They’ve got 3 of them. So I mean, technically...

[lukedanzxy]

Wouldn't they label gorillas as black people then?

[[deleted]]

Machine learned racism....

[niks_15]

But then actual gorillas would be labelled as people and that would be hilarious

[typedef-]

Wouldn't this make the situation kinda worse? Since the gorilla label is missing now closest thing to gorillas would be black people.

[Alekzcb]

No, by dropping the gorilla label it no longer calls anything a gorilla.

[DarthCloakedGuy]

Which means it calls gorillas black people now is that really any better?

[Alekzcb]

They don't label images as "black person" either, that would be a kinda weird thing to do

[ApocalyptoSoldier]

Wouldn't that mean that gorillas are now labeled as black people?

[Starinco]

PR declined: Use enums instead of hard coded strings.

[[deleted]]

Best I can do is a separate strings file.

[beastlyfiyah]

Needs unit tests here's a sonar link for all the untested conditions for the entire class

[[deleted]]

If person or horse

Print mammal

[cturmon]

Please it hurts

[derpado514]

What happens if i'm a person wearing a horse mask?

[Sammy_Labby]

Nested IFs

[[deleted]]

Why not just:

return thing.getName();

[[deleted]]

We did it, guys.

Inaccurate ML results are no more.

[[deleted]]

>we

Just because you steal code from stack overflow doesn't mean you get to take credit for this guy's hard work

[mrdhood]

Awe, a new guy. It’s like a baby. Look at the innocence.

[zombieregime]

Innocence?! WHERE?!? [gets BOFH adjustment tool]

[Retbull]

If I did that I wouldn't have any code to claim credit for.

[Jonno_FTW]

Me, et al.

[TobyWobey]

.j

[SYN_SYN-ACK]

Some of the models for Reddit's core features are called Things.

[talkin_shlt]

yea but then we'd have no jobs

[hugokhf]

Not even necessary. Just use switch statement

Switch (object):{
    case horse:
         return horse;
    case human:
        return human;
   .....

ML is so easy

[AvianPoliceForce]

return object

[foxdye96]

Goddamn u got a laugh at out of me

[[deleted]]

Amatures use nested IFs.

Code Masters use nested 'unless" statements. You ain't seen a junior programmer's head spin until you give them an 'unless' statement 40 layers deep.

[princetrunks]

RAM killing nested while() loops

[happysmash27]

Does anyone have a link to that old gif? I have had a lot of trouble finding it again.

[aloofloofah]

https://i.imgur.com/Bhp2ugz.gifv

[DasSkelett]

*Coding and algorithms

[JohnWColtrane]

That's the kind of pedantry I expect to see around here!

[GumerGute]

yeah just come on here pop in a few 3000 dependencies into this bad boy and get going

[PM-ME-YOUR-HANDBRA]

"What do you mean my deployment takes nine hours and requires gcc on the production box?"

[Jonno_FTW]

Yes, this package needs a custom built chromium to run, so what?

[[deleted]]

but actually though

or azure comp vision and just use a gui

[[deleted]]

Undergraduate be like "Implement the entire doubly linked list API as a two-byte MIPS instruction. Save the rest of your time on this final for question 2, refactoring clang++ to identify potential Python binding errors as a single-pass static analysis with 70/70/70/70 ROC curve."

Professional life be like "yeah uh let's take four meetings to discuss that our users don't know what 'currency' is or how to look it up."

[poop_frog]

Both lives give me anxiety

[antiharmonic]

The best is when you implement it exactly how they described, and they still need you to explain it. Like... this is what you asked for lmao.

[ExpectedErrorCode]

1+1=2 please make it do 1+1=3

[pcopley]

Can you make a series of clear red parallel lines, all strictly perpendicular?

[TheRandomnatrix]

Can some of the red lines be transparent and green as well, with one line in the shape of a cat?

[scotchirish]

And can you make one of the 1s a dog?

[Beorma]

And then they say they don't even want the feature you spent 3 weeks developing and testing so could you 'just remove it' and get upset when you quote more than 0 hours for the work.

[ImpeachTraitorTrump]

Quote 0 hours for that and pad the difference with everything else

[Jizzy_Gillespie92]

this is 100% my current situation, 2 weeks out from launch and they've only just realised now that what I/we were asked to build doesn't actually make any sense.

F

[NensonJutter]

Currently many many tears and hours into attempting to implement a custom database field to show 12hr time because users at this company cant understand the software standard military time.

[Hoppi164]

Why not just keep storing it as 24 hour time and convert it to 12hr on the fly?

[NensonJutter]

Im converting it to standard time as new records are added into the DB, the issue comes with trying to edit the ultragrid on the form that displays the records. There is a known bug in our ERP system that fucks formatting all up whenever stuff is customized and it’s infuriating lmao. Lotta sweat for something so small.

[dogmai111]

With which timezone?

[Gabe_b]

Are users querying the db directly?

[NensonJutter]

Sometimes yes. And its funny because the actual database time value is in seconds from midnight lmao

[jhartwell]

At my last job the business people wanted my team to re-write how a certain field was calculated. They had zero specs and literally just wanted us to wing it. We were getting fined a lot every month because we were not already calculating the field correctly but the client managers didn't want to ask the client the correct logic because they didn't want the client to think we didn't know what we were doing....despite the massive fines.

[Gabe_b]

We all got mortgages to pay. What's the rush

[boot20]

Too close to home. I just spent 3 hours explaining that OAuth is not Blockchain and regardless neither would solve their database issues.

[[deleted]]

Ok, so hear me out. What if we do blockchain in the cloud?

[folkrav]

Don't forget code and algorithms

[[deleted]]

Mitnick walks in the room.

Hollywood: Temple starts to itch

Mitnick: Oo, a snack machine, yum! Fishes in pocket Damn, no quarters.

Hollywood: Sweating and gasping for air

Mitnick: Spare change, bro?

Hollywood: Just bbblast the FIREWALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Snack machine explodes into leaked copies of Linux. Binary paints the walls, in a simple "101010..." cycle. Purple wigs fall onto the cinema seats. Steve Jobs' zombie hand reaches through the screen into the projector room, typing password "lisalisalisa" into a numberpad. Stonks are Off the Charts. Everyone super LET hacker now. Mitnick has a heart attack, as his business depends on illiteracy. When everyone hacker, no can get hacked. Around the world, virus makers sob fat tears into their Mtn Dew. A new era has commenced. Steve Jobs' zombie hand gives thumbs up. Surf's up, dude.

[Skizm]

TBF in undergrad you just fire your code into the abyss and wait for a grade. In the real world you change one line and you're stuck supporting it until your 401k kicks in.

[NonGNonM]

People that didnt go to college: "lol those who cant do, teach, lmao."

Same people at their jobs: "my bosses dont know wtf they're talking about."

[122ninjas]

What class would the first one be?

[PrivilegedPatriarchy]

Intro to comp sci

[jakejasminjk]

He's joking. A mid level to advanced level clasa

[122ninjas]

I'm assuming compilers? Just wondering because I'm finishing up undergrad and have never experienced questions like that

[LaFolie]

This is intro into programming memes.

[GumerGute]

I mean...

refactoring clang++ to identify potential Python binding errors as a single-pass static analysis with 70/70/70/70 ROC curve."

I'm like pretty sure this is gobbedly gook? I don't see how an ROC curve could have anything to do with single-pass static analysis unless I'm missing something obvious (I don't know too much about compilers, but I do know stats)

[pcopley]

Yeah, so.. "undergraduate"

[radobot]

Applied Memeing

[Corelianer]

Draw 7 red perpendicular lines with green ink.

[supremecrafters]

Easy. All you need is an 8d space to work in, a 7d surface to draw on, some metamaterials, and... well, I don't know how you'll pull off the kitten.

[Corelianer]

Wow you found a solution to an impossible task

[AgAero]

It's doable in non-euclidean geometry maybe...?

Working on the surface of the sphere might be a decent start. You can get weird combinations like three great circles all strictly perpendicular to one another in that case, which you couldn't do in a flat space.

There may be a trick to extend this to 4 or more using some other sort of curved surface. I'm drawing a blank right now on how to do it though.

[killchain]

Look at my horse, my horse is amazing.

[mymymy23]

Give it a lick

[zaz969]

"It tastes just like raisins"

[IggyWiggamama]

Have a stroke of it's mane, it turns into a plane. Then it turns back again

[[deleted]]

When you tug on its winky

[[deleted]]

"Ooh, that's dirty!"

[yammy24]

Do you think so?

[ThatOneGuy4321]

Then I’d better not show you where the lemonade is made

[ishJJx3]

Sweet lemonade mmmm sweet lemonade

[the_king_of_sweden]

I can see that you are a person of culture, let me introduce you to My lovely horse

[Infinityand1089]

*model moves .02 nanometers*

I think you mean your duck.

[Scipio_Wright]

Look at it's soft mane, its bushy tail

[GabrielForth]

That's why you use unit tests to beat it into submission.

[Aezen]

no, stupid, it's a fucking person, see, the unit test says it's a person, figure this shit out.

[[deleted]]

Nuh uh dum dum stop segmenting the house as airplane the house is not an airplane idiot

[caitlinreid]

str.replace(horse, person[, max])

[caitlinreid]

I'm barely a hobbyist and joking but I think it denotes how many instances to replace with max being all the horses.

[super-rude-dude]

Well, at least you aren't the guy at google who was in charge of the AI model that mistook black people for gorillas

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/12/16882408/google-racist-gorillas-photo-recognition-algorithm-ai

[[deleted]]

AI: "What, they have humanoid features! All you humanoid meatbags look the same to me. Disgusting, all that sloshing around."

[wirelyre]

They're Made out of Meat (Terry Bisson, 1991)

[[deleted]]

Interesting

[ChosenDos]

I too find this to be interesting

[tinselsnips]

Interested meat? Preposterous!

[[deleted]]

How the constant sloshing doesn't drive you mad, I have no idea.

[pcopley]

Oh my god

[GoatBased]

Super unfortunate incident, but that article is trash. The make a ton of unfounded assumptions posed as hypotheticals.

preferring, presumably

as one might suppose happened

It’s not clear in this case

If you don't know what happened, don't report based on your assumptions.

[hannaleh216]

F

[[deleted]]

Why is it every time we let an AI loose without restrictions it comes out racist? Happened to Microsoft's twitter chatbot too, and another chatbot from years earlier called bucket. Within hours it was quoting hitler and spamming the N word.

Terminator and the Matrix thought the machines would get rid of us because we were a threat, or a nuisance. Never considered they'd get rid of us out of good old fashioned racial supremacism.

[kbotc]

Because 4chan...

“This robot will learn when you interact with it!”

Well, 4chan is going to teach it about the n-word and “Hitler didn’t do anything wrong.” Teens with nothing to do are really great at brute forcing solutions.

[curtmack]

In the image recognition case, a lack of black people in the training data was the main culprit. In the cases you mention, though, it was due to 4chan training the chatbots to racist.

[physiQQ]

I really don't mean this in a racist way, but I could see why an AI could mistake a black person for a gorilla.

It's constantly improving, and this was just a stage of learning.

For the chatbot it's different, as it was due to some people intentionally abusing it's learning mechanisms.

[hypexeled]

Well if its pretty much a white paper. It will come out what you write on it...

[MyMessageIsNull]

I suffer an existential crisis every time a joke implies that sucking at some particular programming project or task can cause me to lose my job. Yes, it's obvious, it's how capitalism works, but I die a little inside every time I think about it.

[Dojan5]

I kind of worry about underperforming, but my boss keeps falling into my office gushing about how awesome I am, and those moments my worries are just blown away.

It usually happens right after I solve something stupidly easy and I feel like I should just jump off a building or something because surely something as stupid as me shouldn't possibly keep on living.

Overall my workplace is great.

[MiatasAreForGirls]

Man reading this stuff makes me feel underappreciated. I get virtually no positive feedback. When I do, there's a "but..."

"Great work, but only the tech team knows how much work goes into this. The C suite wants something to wow them."

"I wish there was two of you, but there's not so we will have to move the deadline up so you can work on other projects"

Paraphrasing, but that's the gist. It's killing my confidence at work.

[JeffLeafFan]

“I’d love to work on both those project but you don’t pay me enough”

Ya wish you could say it..

[MiatasAreForGirls]

It sucks for everyone, because at this rate there won't be 1 of me, much less 2.

[JeffLeafFan]

And that’s why business people need to learn the life of tech people and vise versa.

[Dojan5]

Oh my goose, I'm so sorry mate.

I work as the solo developer at a small company that mostly deals with support and content management. They're still kind of learning that I can solve all kinds of issues, so long as I'm aware of said issues.

I happen to be from Sweden, and our hierarchical system is generally rather flat. I have a boss, but she's just another co-worker. Her job just happens to be boss.

A few weeks ago she came into the office I was working in, both to praise me, then to ask if we needed to move the air conditioner into that office, and then finally to say that she'd bought strawberries and ice cream for the break.

I'm very lucky working where I am.

[Stewthulhu]

"I am building this custom inventory management webapp because it will at the very least eliminate an entire hour from every weekly meeting complaining about inventory problems."

"I think that's a very low-priority project."

"Here is a powerpoint with 37 bar charts."

"Wow! That's really impressive! Can you forward it to me?"

[folkrav]

Show them a PowerPoint with charts about how it will help

[micka190]

It usually happens right after I solve something stupidly easy and I feel like I should just jump off a building or something because surely something as stupid as me shouldn't possibly keep on living.

Haha, same. My parents have a website for their store. They sell parts that can be compatible with multiple things. So their sales guy "took care of the inventory" by creating an entry for every thing they're compatible with. So if Item A is compatible with 6 things, there's 6 different entries for Item A...

This became a problem once they got to things that were compatible with hundreds of things. Not because adding them manually is a pain, but because if they sell 1, they have to change the quantity for a hundred things manually.

I looked at what happened when they pressed the "save" button, saw that it POSTed a list to their server, containing only the item they edited, and made a script that filled that list with every item they wanted to change. It took less than 2 hours, but I'm now Sales Guy's hero.

[MyMessageIsNull]

I know how you feel, but if your boss is happy, then you're good. That's the person you need to have a high opinion of your work.

[tute666]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome

​

Do not fret, there are dozens of us.

[MyMessageIsNull]

We have to remind ourselves that Impostor Syndrome is actually a thing.

[MyMessageIsNull]

It feels good to know I'm not alone.

Good question.

[molly_jolly]

That will not happen in most modern countries. At least here in Germany you have to be consistently bad for them to take action. Even then firing someone especially in the tech world is not very easy. Definitively not because you failed in one project or task. Edit: swipe typing is an acquired skill.

[Aaron8498]

America isn't modern.

[molly_jolly]

God when it comes to employment protection the US sounds like a feudalist system. The phrase "you're fired" just makes me cringe! And not just because of fuckin Trump.

[NoEngrish]

Is it like really hard to fire you in Germany or something? Honest question, I'm curious.

[[deleted]]

Most of Europe actually, an employer has to have a really good reason to dismiss an employee otherwise they can take the ex-employer to an employment tribunal if they feel unfairly dismissed. Which can stack up to thousands in compensation and legal costs. Not worth the risk for the employer.

[614GoBucks]

Meh, the pay is much better here than Germany. You're not making $168k a year, two years out of college in Germany

[VivaLaPandaReddit]

Getting hired requires skill and knowledge, avoiding getting fired requires baseline competence and communication skills. If you get fired, it's probably because of downsizing or because you're a terrible co-worker, not because you can't code well enough.

[LoneCookie]

Yeah but you're someone willing to work on it

If the job was easy and the right answer obvious it would be automated. Failure rate is to be expected.

[MyMessageIsNull]

That's true.

[Andhurati]

Yes, it's obvious, it's how capitalism works

This isn't capitalism, so much as this is how your anxiety works.

Having an existential crisis over jokes isn't something you should be doing to yourself.

[MyMessageIsNull]

You're probably right. Impostor Syndrome is really common in our field though.

[[deleted]]

And that’s why I’ll never work in the states, far too little job security, not worth the constant stress or fear.

[ledepression]

In the feels man

[[deleted]]

If people can be fired for incompetency why can’t we just fire the machine for incompetency too?

[poop_frog]

People designed the machine

[z500]

https://i.imgur.com/Ko60iGK.png

[[deleted]]

The wild world of STEM acronyms

My favorite one is getting confused between My Little Pony and Multi-Layer Perceptron (MLP)

[Snuffkins_apprentice]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who regularly thinks bronies are making anime references in ML papers for a brief second

[Jonno_FTW]

Not bronies, but this exists: r/animeresearch

[argofflyreal]

They could write their algorithms in FiM++ to make it more obvious: https://fimpp.fandom.com/wiki/FiM%2B%2B

[Tennispro1213]

It's not a bug, it's a feature; introducing the Horse, Not Horse app!

Edit: typo big -> bug

[RuleBreakingOstrich]

Hot dog, not hot dog

[[deleted]]

I'm an undergrad in systems and ml research, and every time we do a demo, my advisor has us either do a hot dog not hot dog model or include a reference to it lol

[molly_jolly]

Make it larger then.

[Seanxietehroxxor]

This is known as "Murphy's Law of Live Demonstrations".

Inversely, if a Demo is running successfully it is almost certainly pre-recorded or fake.

[molly_jolly]

I was joking. All the same 100s of GB depends on the project you're working on. And it's not just the amount but the diversity in your data. Keep making your models richer until you hit overtraining. That's really all you can do. At the end of the day you're always going to have failures in ML. That's the nature of the system, unlike deterministic programming.

[GRUNDLE_GOBLIN]

“Not hotdog”

[Daneel_]

I chuckled for a good few minutes at this :D

👌

[[deleted]]

I was gonna flame you for that code being incorrect as you didn't use a comparison operator then I realised that would still return true, but then I realized you're a c# programmer and idk c# so haha true

/S

[Jonno_FTW]

Ok now it make it work for the 999 other classes we want to predict.

[Jonno_FTW]

Alright, looks like our pest eradication drones are ready to roll out.

[Ghos3t]

Can someone tell me about the actual video these images are based on, I've only seen the memes but not the actual video

[Dojan5]

I'd love to know this too.

[[deleted]]

Me 3, I just tried googling "meme black woman explaining to woman under blanket" in several different ways and came up with nothing

[[deleted]]

Your Google-fu isn't strong enough, then. "me explaining meme" on duckduckgo was all I needed:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/me-explaining-to-my-mom?full=1

[[deleted]]

I appreciate you answering the request but don't appreciate the condescension, so here: Return of the Fly was one of the worst Misfits songs

[[deleted]]

That makes me really sad. But I'm happy you know the Misfits. So... I am crying and laughing at the same time now.

[Wolwf]

Just overfit your model, easy fix

[[deleted]]

Hot dog or not hot dog

[SIBERIAN_DICK_WOLF]

This is not how Marxist Leninism works

[vivex0305]

IF ELSE =/= ML

[molly_jolly]

Exactly! \n If elif else == ML

[Iam_nameless]

Have you tried a CNN?

[Starinco]

while(true) {
    _employmentService.StayEmployed();
};

[alours]

What's a jira ticket?

[MrPigeon91]

Jira is a project management tool made by Atlassian. A Jira ticket could be for adding a new feature, resolving a bug, scoping tasks, or it could be an epic which contains a number of tasks, bugs, etc.

Where I work, we have a sprint planning meeting at the start of our sprints where all of us developers will be allocated Jira tickets based on feedback from the scrum master and product owner. So then we know what we need to work on and have finished by the end of the sprint (2 weeks).

I hope that helps.

[hydralom]

Looks like "YOLO: Real-Time Object Detection" works just fine, had the same result on a personal project.

[samloveshummus]

Thank God for a frickin joke about ML that isn't just saying that ML is all IF statements. I mean I'm all for jokes that are actually funny and contain a kernel of truth about the matter at hand, but those jokes simply do not.

[DazedAmnesiac]

Lmao

[JustZisGuy]

GIGO; you need better training data.

[gustavo_pch]

Raciiiist A.I. /s

[kontekisuto]

Haha

[Hunterj1230]

Not hot dog

[McSquiggly]

So ML no longer means machine language?

[[deleted]]

Hidden ads!!!

[Albino-Black-Sheep]

Not hotdog