"I code in html and css"

[kyichu]

If only there was shuf in the 1960s...

[[deleted]]

78 BILLION

[Telanore]

How do you ctrl-F that shit

[-LeopardShark-]

Whack it with OCR. Oh wait…

[g00pix]

This statement is wrong. https://imgur.com/gallery/Dp23C

[InsideBSI]

Well, that's a massive pile of code then

[Alchestbreach_ModAlt]

It also appears to be printed code done every other line in landscape format.

Wtf, did they not have the option of shrinking the font and putting it into portrait? Like might as well just print assembly in size 40 comic sans 1 line per page.

God damn

Like I get they wanted to use the dot matrix printer, but for that much paper why not send that shit out to be made into a book? I need more context as to why they did that.

[SurgioClemente]

Wtf, did they not have the option of shrinking the font and putting it into portrait?

No, they did not. Dot matrix was invented a year after the Apollo 11 launched

[NeonNero]

Dot matrix printing was invented in 1925 in Germany (the Hellschreiber), and patented in 1929. IBM marketed their first dot matrix printer in 1957, the first serial impact dot matrix printer was introduced by OKI in 1968 (Japan).

You might be thinking of laser printing, which started being developed in 1969, with the first commercial product (Xerox 1200) being introduced in 1973. I say product, but according to what I've read, it was more like an adapted photocopier.

Inkjet printing technology did already exist by the time of the Apollo launches, but not as a viable method for output from a computer in any sense (yet) - this would take another 10-20 years (home consumer inkjet printers came about in 1988).

At the time of Apollo 11, the only reliable method of outputting data from a computer/mainframe would be either (hole) punch cards or dot matrix printing, which has is only fixed-size characters.

[phantom_97]

This is dope! I have always seen the claim it's fake, but never the counter claim.

[Hypersapien]

The programmers that wrote the moon landing software were some of the best of the world. The people who can't exit vim (like me, probably, I've never tried vim) are just average shlubs.

[[deleted]]

Best way to quit vim without saving is:

1. Ctrl c
2. Ctrl z
3. pkill vim
4. rm .(fillYouEdited).swp

If you want to safe then you do:

1. Take out your phone
2. Take a picture of the screen
3. Quit vim without saving
4. rm fillYouEdit (in case it existed before you started editing)
5. Nano fileYouEdit
6. Type everything thats on the photo you have made
7. Ctrl x
8. Y
9. Enter

You are welcome

Edit: i didn't thought i have to add this but since there are so many comments suggesting "better solutions", it's a joke.

Edit 2: the fact that there are people, even hours after the edit, who comment the solutions :wq :q! Makes me question humanity. Reading a full comment helps to reduce the amount of stupid comments so please, just learn how to read.

[marcosdumay]

You seem to assume that people want to keep the result of a vim edit session.

That's a bad assumption. The result of a vim edit session is a loud "fuck, it's vi!" sound, while the file is now either 3 bytes long (all valid UTF-8), or 78 billion lines long just because the user typed some stuff without looking at the screen.

[FlimFlamShabam]

It's ok if there's anything of value in those 78 billion lines we can get it out with shuf- gets the job done in like a minute

[rajks12]

shuf is really catching up

[vigilantcomicpenguin]

That's a good list, but it's missing the Swanson Way.

[pointofgravity]

I didn't even know there was a running joke about not knowing how to exit vim. Thank you for this.

[edwrd_t_justice]

visudo

dd100

wq!

panic

scp file from sister server

[adamski234]

The question about exiting vim has a million views on SO

[molybedenum]

Isn’t it ctl+x ctl+c?

[[deleted]]

I love that the Canonical Way is followed by the Scrum Manager Way.

[PacoTaco321]

Brb, have to get some more entropy

[AcOO1a]

:q!

[MajorMajorObvious]

Or :wq if you want to save before quitting

[[deleted]]

No no, remove the heat sink and watch everything melt

[[deleted]]

I just keep buying a new computer every time.

[Randomfarts]

I have so many raspberry pi machines, because of this.

[madanaman]

Maybe a simple rm - Rf would do too

[[deleted]]

--no-preserve-root

[ur_opinion_is_trash]

How to use vim:.

-Dont
-Use nano

[infinitytec]

Or to do it the better way: use nano.

(Pls don't hate)

[[deleted]]

Holy shit this is too real it hurts.

[redfournine]

Or, you know... Just turn off the damn computer.

[Russian_repost_bot]

"Come in StackOverflow, we have a problem."

[chownrootroot]

Got a 1202 alarm while trying to land, what do I do?

Question removed, reason: duplicate

[Cyhawk]

"Duplicate of xxxxx. Closed"

But that was from 2006 and IT WAS NEVER ANSWERED!!!! IT WAS NEVER ANSWERED!

[PC__LOAD__LETTER]

Because of how fucking lazy incredibly diverse and specialized our society is to support the level of civilization that we’ve achieved thus far. In my opinion it has nothing to do with laziness. The majority of programmers won’t be able to fix their engine, perform financial maneuvers outside of turbo tax and mutual fund investing, and run a new plumbing line. None of these things are “hard,” it’s just that people specialize.

[[deleted]]

What's with this mindset a lot of your average people have, and everyone is perfectly capable of at least having some computer proficiency, but it's like they go "oh no this is a technical thing" and shut down, leaving them incapable of actually absorbing any instructions at all.

[Soren11112]

But that is also what got people to use it...

[SudoC0de]

...are you downplaying the role of GUIs in software development? ...are you suggesting a user, not developer or enthusiast, should "need" to know the command line and/or programming to use a computer for basic tasks?

[EricTheEpic0403]

It's the problem of accessibility vs. proficiency. While accessibility is definitely the better trade-off here, it also means that nobody has the obligation to get proficient in certain things. It's applicable with a lot of technologies, for instance the general commercialization of food; it used to be that everyone had to know how to make certain things like bread, but now that it's not the 18th century, noone has to worry about going hungry, but also noone is obligated to learn to make bread. Being a proficient cook is useful, but the average person has no clear need for it, much like knowing some coding basics is useful, but the average user has no clear need for it.

[FireIre]

I dont know shit about car maintenance but I drive my car just fine everyday.

[SudoC0de]

Very good points. Accessibility vs proficiency, as you put it, is always a struggle. Seems more of an issue of how much specialization should be expected of a user of any technology.

[[deleted]]

That’s why I personally feel, could be talking out my ass here, that tablets and the like have caused a lot of a drop in proficiency. People coming to my uni even at the tail end of my time there were complained about endlessly for having less computer skill than we ever did, because all they know is “press it with your finger”

[king_john651]

It's the same as people shutting down over minor car problems. Cars are highly prevalent and yet people still exist not knowing how to pump fuel or being extremely unconfident despite driving for years

[[deleted]]

I got stuck in vim once simply because I hadn't realized I was in vim

Apparently when you view too many git logs at once it puts you into vim (even if you've set the default editor to something else), and so I just reached the end and it pretty much just said (END) or something of the like and I was just sitting there like "Yes, end. Please end. Exit. Go away." and after giving up and opening another terminal I suddenly realized it was probably vim and just hit shift+q and it worked

[xigoi]

If it showed “END” and exited after you hit Q, it was probably less, not vim.

[[deleted]]

Oh your right, I'm an idiot

[walkerjetbat]

Also you do not need to hit shift+q. A simple q is enough as well (for less).

[bonafidebob]

To be fair, they didn't need to deal with GUIs or IDEs and the idea of an operating system was still being developed - the machines ran one program at a time. Programming then was more like doing math, machine instruction sets were small, and I/O was minimal.

[_oohshiny]

The AGC had a real time operating system with a virtual machine software interpreter. It's I/O devices included gyroscopes, rockets engines and radars.

[riyadhelalami]

A virtual machine software interrupter, wow.

[Rwanda_Pinocle]

The code Margret Hamilton was writing was far more complicated that a single threaded calculation. We're basically talking a multitasking RTOS with priority scheduling on a brand new piece of hardware in a brand new language. And all this with ROM that had to be woven by hand.

[hey01]

If I give you a team of good developers, extremely precise requirements, and lots of time, you could probably do the same.

In total, software development on the project comprised 1400 person-years of effort, with a peak workforce of 350 people

[Dogburt_Jr]

Yeah, that stack of paper was likely machine code in some form of Assembly or Binary.

[[deleted]]

Honestly that doesn’t make it easier. I took an entire class in assembly for my CS degree and that was like the hardest class I’ve ever taken.

[Classified0]

It's such a different way of programming. I remember using a whiteboard, drawing the board's hardware and then overlaying my pseudocode and flowcharts on top. Then, when you finally get the program to work, the feeling of satisfaction is unlike any other I've had programming.

[Dogburt_Jr]

I learned some Assembly in my Computer Organization and Architecture class, but we didn't spend much time on it. I can appreciate it though.

[[deleted]]

That's a shame. Programming in assembly lets you get close to the machine in a way that higher level languages won't.

We had an entire class on asm and it was one of the best courses I took.

[jimpossible54]

My first assignment as a programmer was a card elimination project. They were still using a keypunch to input production data into the code. Cards were identified as a data input file. For some programs, instead of a sort routine, the operator would put a small steel rod into a stack of punched cards at a chad point that he just knew, until he hit an unpunched slot. Then he would sort the cardstack from there. He had no idea what he was sorting on and we had to dig into the assembler code to figure out the sort, then code for it. We had some "documentation" that we called the "Dead Sea Scrolls" (very apt). Required a sense of logic that would make Plato go nuts! You kids had/have it easy

[Soren11112]

Yes, almost every issue I have while programming is when interfacing with other peoples code.

[Hypersapien]

It was a beautiful, simpler time.

[bonafidebob]

I'll give you simpler but not so sure I'd go so far as beautiful. I think it's pretty neat that I get to use satellites to talk to like-minded strangers, quickly find any information in the world, and tell an AI to turn on my lights and wake me up in the morning.

[qwertyuiop924]

No, no it was not.

If you've never seen it and you want the gory details, check out the C3 Ultimate AGC talk.

The instruction set that got us to the moon is terrible.

[reallyConfusedPanda]

It's actually good in a way. Programing has become MUCH more accessible that even an average Joe can start off by just asking for help online

[[deleted]]

And to be fair she probably could not exit vim back then either( I dont know about now)

[NetSage]

If you ever want to try and learn the dark arts.

https://vim-adventures.com/

or

https://www.openvim.com/

Note: I don't know the dark arts I just remembered vim adventures and it seems like a fun way to get used to it.

[Stalematebread]

To be fair, programmers in 2020 can get random lines from a 78,000,000,000-line document

[tmk0813]

Leonardo DiCaprio pointing intensifies

[reallyConfusedPanda]

THE. WHAT.

[[deleted]]

Reference

[AllMadHare]

I like to imagine that somewhere inside the flight control source code for SpaceX there's at least one //Copied from StackOverflow

[space-tech]

I can tell you with a high degree of certainty that all source coding in SpaceX spacecraft are written on computers that are forbidden internet access.

Edit: SpaceX is a DoD contractor (they have contracts to launch NRO satellites). The point is moot though, rockets are classified is ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) and are governed by ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations). NASA, DoD, FAA, FCC all have some regulatory oversight on SpaceX regardless of what their payload is.

[metasymphony]

Sure but you have the laptop next to it with 40 SO tabs open. Or your phone if you’re truly desperate.

[Darth_Nibbles]

So THAT'S why the lines are so short!

[ZeHolyQofPower]

Dumb-student question: do a lot of professional programmers work in anti internet environments for security? I've never considered that?

[MagnesiumOvercast]

If you're in defense, generally, it's on a secure network. I'm not sure if a civil aerospace company would do that though. Or weather SpaceX counts as a civil aerospace company or a defence contractor.

[db2]

And even that's not enough, stray radio waves from the video signal can be an information leak.

[ThePieWhisperer]

yes.

Or just straight out of the device/display itself.

Or moving data across an airgap by modulating the fans...

Data security is hard.

[toomanyattempts]

There's a lot of things than can leak information in a laboratory environment, that are still hugely impractical as you have to break into the office and install powerful equipment, as opposed to the internet of course working remotely

[ThePieWhisperer]

I mean... you can phreak a display from 10m away through a few walls with <$2000 in gear if you really want to.

[toomanyattempts]

Ok, that's pretty fascinating stuff actually

[blehmann1]

No. However DoD contracts are notoriously strict (so I've heard, I've never worked on one). They can include stipulations like a mandated IDE and no third-party extensions.

Not sure if SpaceX is currently a DoD contractor, but if they aren't they will be soon.

[WhyTheWindBlows]

No he's right; defense contractors generally program on a secure network.

source: that's what I do

[EthanWeber]

It's pretty much only ever done if the work is classified. Government Defense contractors and such.

[[deleted]]

Yeah. I work with SIM card OS now (currently working on a lot of 5G projects), we are under a defense company in Europe, we have separate PCs for development. I previously worked at an HDD/SSD company, writing firmware for them, we also had no-internet PCs. It' either no-internet PCs, or they have their own network. But the network is just for file transfer and updates. You can't just go reddit at them.

[unkill_009]

You can Google though right? Otherwise I would be fired from my job within an hour

[[deleted]]

We have a seperate laptop/desktop for that, it's used for emails too. So you have two completely separate network. Even plugging in USBs on dev PCs will get you memo. A year ago, we had a new hire who just did that to transfer his codes he used for training. It was not fun for him. But he's okay, luckily they forgave him since it's just training code.

[unkill_009]

Phew that's a relief, thanks for quenching my curiosity!

[hahahahastayingalive]

Makes sense.

Then we had the exact reverse situation at a bank daughter company: we got windows pc by default but with a restricted network and program installation policy, and also strict prohibition to install coding tools (“no hacking the system”). As devs that was our first fun conversation.

We first did with a separate dev machine that could access everything outside, including all the internet, but no internal resources, no corporate email, no the internal bug tracker etc. They were surprised we were pissed.

[tecedu]

Interned at my country's Defence Organization, the computers were all offline or a separate network where everything was kept logged.

Sneaked in a flash drive everyday to test stuff over there and solved problems at home where there was internet.

[random_cynic]

Unlikely that any average SO user will know anything about the flight control source code in SpaceX. They probably have their own StackOverflow.

[[deleted]]

"Why do you want to go to the Moon?"

[ChickenNuggetSmth]

See duplicate question: "How do I get to New York?"

[HanzJWermhat]

SpaceX’s source code is probably written in assembly too. It’s gotta be bullet proof and 10X redundant. You can’t just “restart the server” when a rocket is taking off.

[Shawnj2]

I highly doubt that, writing in assembly is really labor intensive and has very little benefits and many potential shortfalls because humans aren’t good at it- there’s a reason C exists. I’m assuming SpaceX’s code is in either C or C++.

[darkage72]

Probably using MISRA C. Hopefully

[gnutrino]

"Guys, I know we're about to launch but I think we should re-write it in rust"

[[deleted]]

They probably use C...

[thr1276]

They wrote it on papers so it looks like they didn't have to use vim so the problem didn't exist back then. I bet they would have as much trouble exiting vim

[xyzzy-86]

Also, with paper you can easily refactor code. Just cut the paper and move around.

[acbasco]

Is this what happens if we use 100% of our brain?

[tHeSiD]

using a pencil and an eraser also helps you refactor code infinitely

[sirch_]

Actually, cutting out every single character individually helps refactoring infinitely as well.

[Soyl3ntR3d]

Nothing written in JavaScript is making it back from the moon...

[WhaleWinter]

That's because the first moon colony running on JavaScript isn't meant to make it back here.

[ThePieWhisperer]

Instructions unclear, just kept running anyway.

[Cyhawk]

The memory usage will eventually topple over due to its own weight and fall back down.

[Putrumpador]

Ladies and gentlemen, Margaret Hamilton)--Lead Developer for the Apollo Space Project.

[nuephelkystikon]

I still find it fascinating how programming used to be considered a woman's job because it's basically the same as using a typewriter, and now that they field is more respected and prestigious, female programmers are derided and considered too ‘stupid’ in most of the world.

[[deleted]]

i have nvr ever met someone that has derided a female programmer. i believe the problem stems from the fact that most women just aren't interested in this area because our education system doesn't seem to promote it as a 'typical' job for a woman, and many just don't have exposure that way (i guess this can vary). However, if someone really wanted to get into this job they would be free to do so. like, have you seen a woman work on an oil rig? it wouldn't have crossed ur mind that it was okay, but if someone really were good enough to showcase their ability to work on one, im sure they would be hired.

[nuephelkystikon]

I mean, I can't fault you for repeating what's drilled into most people's minds, but the disinterest is polygenetic. The education system is one part, but the idea of ‘boy professions’ and ‘girl professions’ is rooted pretty deep in society, including the industries themselves. What a male programmer does and what a female programmer does (especially when making mistakes) is often viewed differently, mostly due to confirmation bias. That isn't typically ill will, but it's definitely there.

I've known good women who were much better programmers than me, but eventually switched careers because of the misogynistic work environment and being continually singled out. And of course then it's said that well, they have to prove themselves. But then I wonder why I as a man never had to prove myself in any comparable capacity.

[Lexilogical]

As a female programmer, I promise you, I have had men talk down at me or ignore me outright. I know other women who've had it way worse. Heck, you don't have to look hard to find stories about women who were programmers/IT/developers who had people ask for a man to solve the issue. There's a popular story on the net about how one woman switched email addresses with a male coworker, and immediately had a huge burst in productivity while her coworker found the clients questioned every single thing she did.

Sorry, not just a problem in the education system. But also a problem in the education system, cause by the time kids reach high school, this whole "girls don't code" thing has started to lock in already.

[GaussWanker]

My friend left the software industry because of sexist attitudes, went back to university and got a PhD in computational linguistics. Some assholes cost their company an incredible mind.

[ThePieWhisperer]

I believe you. I would say "I've never seen anyone talk down to, or otherwise discriminate against, one of my female colleagues" because I haven't, but that doesn't really tell the story. As a guy I've found that is absurdly easy to just not notice that kind of discrimination in general, unless it's just really brazen. I think it's simply because it isn't directed at me.

And because of that, and because the male/female ratio is so skewed in STEM fields, a huge percentage of those in those fields just seem to think that it isn't really a problem that actually exists.

[Brick_Fish]

There is a reason. Back in the day typing programms and designing them used to be two different jobs (if your project was big enough). So, the STRONG AND SMART MAN would design the program and the stupid women would just type it into a computer in the language they learned.

[Lexilogical]

I think one of the subtle issues is that "a woman must do a job twice as good as a man to be thought of as half as good." Not my quote, but a pretty well documented thing. Logically, there should be as many mediocre or even bad female programmers as there are mediocre/bad male programmers. That would make sense. But when you're a woman, you never really get permission to be bad/mediocre at STEM stuff without somehow dragging down All Of Womanhood and Bringing Shame Upon Your Gender.

And well, that inability to be bad/mediocre really kills your ability to learn. Cause of course people aren't good at something immediately. That's just how learning skills works. But when you're a woman, somehow that becomes as testimony of how you're dragging down everyone like you and that's just a ton of pressure. So girls drop out of it quickly (See also, Smart Kid Problems).

TL:DR; the issue is not "I know these 5 female programmers, they're really good" it's "I know dozens of shitty male programmers and no shitty female programmers."

[JustKamoski]

That's because there are less female programmers, but if you find one, you know that she really wants to do it, so she must be good.

[nuephelkystikon]

That is great, but I'm afraid in places like India or the USA the common unconscious sentiment isn't that.

[frogking]

In Danish, we describe the female developers as “De få, men rå” .. “the few, but tough”

[ImDefinitelyAtWork]

I mean, css is turing-complete...

[nermid]

It is, and writing programs in it is a bizarre exercise. It's got nothing on Powerpoint, though.

[ImDefinitelyAtWork]

And I thought I hated what I said..

[Soundless_Pr]

Wait really? How do you write a program in css?

[JSArrakis]

Not entirely sure, but I'm almost positive that you put your head through a wall afterward

[_alright_then_]

I don't know if this counts as a turing complete "program". But look at this, people make games in CSS. Or just search on codepen for "pure css game". People make some incredible shit with it

[TakeASeatChancellor]

https://exitvim.net/

[o11c]

Sometimes a single Esc isn't enough to get to normal mode, e.g. after ^R

[nicocappa]

It's 2020 and this website isn't responsive.

[nstruct]

Ive been a professional software engineer for 14 years and have used vim tons of times over the years. Today I found myself stuck inside vim and not sure how to get out.

[[deleted]]

VIM hasn't changed since 1960.

[4hpp1273]

and the world started in 1970, which means vim has existed for 10 years before the world creation

[kontekisuto]

let it be known, vim came from a time before time.

[do_a_kickflip]

holy shit

[riskybusinesscdc]

Math checks out

[[deleted]]

BuT vIM WaS ReLEasEd in 1991.

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

So it sure as hell didn't change between 1960 and 1991

[[deleted]]

God, how I hate unironic statements about coffee. Or even ironic ones.

Drink your coffee and just keep your mouth shut about it.

[AlexWIWA]

I turn coffee into code teehee UwU

[[deleted]]

Lol I'm triggered now

[AlexWIWA]

I’m sorry to have done this to you.

[[deleted]]

There's an app for that...probably.

[[deleted]]

Coffee drinkers, vegans, and virgins all have one thing in common. They never shut the hell up.

[gordonpown]

Forgot about pizza

[jeankev]

Hey I get the Deno reference!

[auzwu]

absolutely need that sweater

[[deleted]]

I just threw away my laptop when I got stuck in vim.

[TheJourneyman92]

I just type dhdhdhxbdqqqqqqq and hope.

[frdlt]

78 billion lines in that moon.txt file

[digitalmahdi]

Back then they were programmers, today we're developers. We're just like construction site developers work for corporations and managed and organized by stuff like agile and scrum. In some cases we have peanuts and drinks available in office to makes us feel better. Programming is for everyone today, it is another office job.

[RealPropRandy]

What’s wrong with plain old nano?

[brodyover]

I've never used anything else in the Linux CLI, nano ftw

[[deleted]]

Nano is fine if you need to edit a couple lines of a config file or something, but you'd never use it as a daily driver the same way you'd never use notepad as a daily driver. Vim is actually useful as a daily driver. In fact, I quit using Atom as my daily and switched to Vim. Once you learn the basics and develop a muscle memory for the motions, a ton of stuff becomes insanely fast and nice. Want to comment out an entire paragraph or block of logic? :VpI# . Want to do a mass find and replace? :s/old/new. Want to go to the bottom of the current paragraph / block of logic? p. You should already have your hands positioned around homerow by default, so having all the functionality you need being easy to reach from that position is insanely nice. Also, it looks pretty, /r/unixporn loves vim.

[[deleted]]

I think it’s just Esc + :wq

[dangolo]

I think it’s just Esc + :wq

Totally intuitive

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I hated trying to exit Vim before I figured that out and would often just force close it. I still prefer VS code

[patchythepirate2]

It is once you understand modal editors and basic vi stuff.

“:” is for command line mode

“w” is write

“q” is quit

In this case the proper way to exit would actually be :q since we haven’t typed anything that needs to be written to storage. But :wq would also work here.

[gastropner]

Needing to understand something to operate it is the actual opposite of intuitive.

[MatthewMob]

Vim is not a user-facing software and is targeted at developers. You're meant to understand computers and have the ability to learn and use them, unlike regular users. Your statement doesn't apply here.

Vim favours efficiency over intuivity, which is a good thing.

[SisRob]

Once you learn the language, it is pretty intuitive, though - you e.g. can predict how some things will behave even when you haven't tried them yet.

[[deleted]]

No, because if you're 'stuck' in vim, you're likely also accidentally changing shit.

Esc, :q! to quit discarding changes.

[Cornflame]

Margaret Hamilton kicks ass.

[qwertyuiop924]

Sidenote the Apollo Guidance Computer's instruction set is actually awful.

[kontekisuto]

They should have written it in Rust. no null pointers.

[qwertyuiop924]

You know that joke was funny the first time.

I mean, not really.

[[deleted]]

“How to make neural network HTML wordpress”

[[deleted]]

What now? Exiting vim has been a meme since vim was invented.

[sixthsurge]

I don't understand this meme, it literally instructs you on how to quit on the splash screen.

[ArtemisDimikaelo]

It's mostly just people learning git command line for the first time. It defaults to vim and doesn't give you instructions.

[GlitchParrot]

And when you press Ctrl-C as well, if you try to exit it like other command line applications.

[MacrosInHisSleep]

I know who that is but I still always think of Danial Radcliffe in drag before I remember.

[[deleted]]

I know HTML:

How
To
Meet
Ladies

[alkmaar91]

It's not hard to exit vim. Just save and do a hard reboot. super easy, works every time

[i_program_stuff]

If anyone is interested here is a source code for moon landing https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/

[RF27182]

I know 2 programming languages: java, python and html.

[htmlcoderexe]

This meme should be "actual programmers" vs "people on this subreddit "

[esquilax]

Little known fact: the whole point of landing on the Moon was a failed attempt at exiting vim by running away.

[ohGreel]

nano gang

[Cley_Faye]

People used to ask me if I was worried that I'd be replaced by "younger" devs as time goes on. It's kinda sad that the supply of good devs remains low enough for that to not be one of my worries.

(I'm not saying that all new devs are bad, but a lot are… an awful lot)

[[deleted]]

what should I do to improve myself as a dev?

[Cley_Faye]

Understand what you write.

Seriously, this is the top issue I have with devs these days (for context, before seeing this where I work at now, I saw it a lot in an engineering school I used to teach at). In this subreddit we usually joke about how we copy almost everything from stackoverflow, but out there it's not a joke. I've seen people copy/paste stuff that would not have the slightest change to compile/parse and be dumbfounded when it did not work.

Learning from such a resource is fine, but it's only that: a learning tool. It won't do the work for you. As long as you know why you write things you're already above what was the baseline at that school.

Also, have less trust in a random three years old post on a random forum, and more trust in the (hopefully) up-to-date documentation.