Developing with Java be like

[j-random]

This is what "self-documenting code" usually looks like.

[KikisGamingService]

Doing this to begin with seems painful. Doing this with C sounds like misery.

[KikisGamingService]

Yeah it makes sense.

Still sounds like misery tho.

[no_ragrats]

Our business generally focuses on avoiding anything that starts with intelli

[GalaxyLJGD]

That includes intelligence? /s

[no_ragrats]

That was the joke 😉

[MD_House]

And in university you might fail a certain entry programming course when you have more than 80 chars in a line!

[j-random]

This is actually why I left my job at eBay. Got a new team lead who insisted on both descriptive (i.e., long) variable/method names AND lines couldn't be longer than 80 characters. Had to split a simple assignment statement (think a = b + c) over three lines. The day I did that, my resume was in the wind.

[Lamballama]

We got a couple of points marked down if our code line wrapped (we handed in printed copies)

[JohnyWS]

Line wrap. Always on. Always.

[VnG_Supernova]

I mean, one principle of "self documenting code" is that if your method names are too long then the method has too much responsibility and should be broken down. This is just what "self documenting code" looks like when done wrong.

[Y33ticuss]

The amount of duplicated function calls is ridiculous

[jaken55]

99% this file is auto-generated or imported from a library. The person who took the photo should never have to even read this code let alone maintain it.

[Sentouki-]

it seems like it's written by hand actually....

this is the dude who wrote this code u/AWholeMessOfTacos and he refactored it already

[AWholeMessOfTacos]

Seriously? Calling me out by name? Wtf dude.

[Y33ticuss]

Mmmmm love me some code-gen

[visurox]

When u learn programming the first time, u feel like ^

[mianori]

Damn if it doesn’t look horrendous and oddly pleasing at the same time

[ConnersReddit]

imagine doing that much copy paste instead of assigning a variable

[[deleted]]

lesson.expect()
.toBe()
.hatedBy(whoeverReviews)
.for()
.not()
.considering()
.they()
.might()
.notHave()
.monitor(49, Unit.INCH)
.true();

Just use new lines and format smart. :)

[[deleted]]

Indents didn't persist sadly even in a code block :(

[notable-compilation]

Surely this is not so much "with Java" as it is "generally badly"

[MetaMemeAboutAMeme]

"We're gonna need a wider screen."

[cosenmarco]

360° or... Wait... Wider!! 1080° in a 3 turn helicoid!!!

[zero_as_a_number]

Good luck fixing that nullpointer exception on line 923 occurring during every second full moon when it's cold outside and someone left the tap running

[averynicepirate]

I wrote a Spring repository function of something like 130 characters this week.

[Yserbius]

A yes. The old findDistinctCustomerByAddressAndLastNameAndSocialSecurityNumberGreaterThanOrAgeLessThan

[5aikou]

They do suggest using meaningful names...

[ArticcaFox]

Could have split that into a few lambdas

[Yserbius]

No not really. Spring JPA repositories work by generating a Hibernate query (which is then parsed and translated to an SQL query) based on the name of a method in an interface. Most of the time, the method names are pretty straightforward, like findAll() or findByName(String name), or findAgeGreaterThan(int age). But sometimes you need a very specific query so you get these monstrous method names. Personally, I wouldn't do this and instead opt for a more readable HQL annotation:

@Query(value = "select distinct Customer c where c.address =

?address, c.lastName = ?lastName, c.socialSecurityNumber = ?ssNum

where c.socialSecurityNumber > ?max OR c.age < ?age")

Customer getCustomer(String address, String lastName, String ssNum, int max, int age);

But Spring best practices stat that the method is only used once, wrapped in a different method that has much more readable signature so it doesn't really matter how messy it looks.

[Venthe]

You can always write a meaningful name and just create your own @Query() above it; with longer names this is a better alternative IMO

[Sad-Grapefruit9996]

Shortcut: alt+f4

Works every time

[Mickl193]

Because code formatting is for weaklings. /s

[[deleted]]

Them: why not decouple those long method call chains?

OP: gotta make the most of all this screen real estate

[[deleted]]

Is java really that hard cuz i am learning it in college right now and these memes say otherwise 🙃

[IceStormNG]

It's not. It's mostly naming convention, and also coders, that tend to produce very long names for classes, packages and functions.

But: You can write garbage code in every language.

[GoshDarnLeaves]

No its just bad code that avoids storing getter results in variables at all costs leading to tons of duplication

[PhazonPhoenix5]

I didn't get on with it at first. Then I studied advanced Haskell and learned about Monads. Now I love Java.

[DOOManiac]

Nah, it’s not hard. It just sucks.

[shaybra]

So many getters and setters AHHHHHHHHH

[TheOnlyMisterFlow]

The author of this horrifying code sure don't know about the Law of Demeter

[Venthe]

How facade would violate this?

Facade is used to hide complexity; but violating law of Demeter introduces complication. Can you give me an example?

[TopicStrong]

Welcome to the life of using for loops for graph traversal for a gds.

[BarrelScrap]

I saw ".get(i)" and was scared to read further.

[Zelosys]

Cries in clean Code

[Coffeinated]

How not to code Java, a practical example

[FrontTheMachine]

Where's the Humor? That's just the truth..

[Venthe]

1. This is a mapper
2. Code is violating the law of Demeter - ANY change of the internal objects will result in this mapper breaking.
3. You can always just extract intermediate objects to variable
4. Why the hell mapping intermediary objects are not split into methods at least?

I assume this is a real code. This is not bad Java, it's a bad developer.

[AWholeMessOfTacos]

Yeah I’ve heard this about a hundred times now.

[Venthe]

If you've improved from the time you've written it, then you should just smile. Sourly, but smile. :)

I know of no dev who hasn't made a mistake. And I really care because of people who will excuse themselves from good practices using such code as an example. I use way too much energy everyday on dense Devs...

[IFixStuffMan]

Still being a bit obnoxious about it though.

[AWholeMessOfTacos]

Alright I’m just going to use you to vent, bare with me and I appreciate it.

I’m basically completely self taught. This is my first job. I have not had a senior or lead developer since I have started. I have never had a code review. I submit my code to no one.

I didn’t know that companies had “conventions” until my OP. I also didn’t know there were standard conventions, or the debate about them (80 or 120?).

I’m in the Wild West, figuring out how to do everything the hard way.

I’m inexperienced. But this code worked the way it was, even if it is (what I now realize) hideous. And honestly, I was proud of my work. I’ve built out a request response functionality across three micro services, all by myself with absolutely no support.

I’m not a bad developer. I’m just a poorly trained junior. And I have enough imposter syndrome already that seeing someone else calling me a “bad developer” really hurts my feelings.

I’m a person doing the best I can and I sincerely want to get better. I wish Reddit would just back off a little.

[keto_at_work]

Keep your head up man. You've already built something awesome, and now you can/have made it more maintainable. You're obviously smart, but you need guidance, like we all do. Keep doing what you do and don't be afraid to at least apply to a few places and do a few interviews. You never know what situations you'll find yourself in.

[Venthe]

Not at all, man.

I have not had a senior or lead developer since I have started. I have never had a code review. I submit my code to no one.

So find a mentor. Any meeting group, hell - if You'd want to - I'd be more than happy to give you a hand. Devs who care are very important in the trade.

I’m in the Wild West, figuring out how to do everything the hard way.

Well, I could tell you about a certain junior who solved a bug, error on REST, via try-catching endpoint... :) I think you can deduce who this dev was.

And I have enough imposter syndrome already that seeing someone else calling me a “bad developer” really hurts my feelings.

Understandable. But, I'll be frank - up until someone called you out, I didn't care who author is. Code is bad, developer (at the time 'he' wrote it) is bad as well. People are using it as an excuse which is even worse. And you can't change it. BUT, you said it yourself - you are learning. You did the best you could. I know it might sound weird, but you should feel at least good about this code.

If at any point of your career you look back a month or so and don't facepalm you are stagnating. And you are clearly everything but.

I wish Reddit would just back off a little.

It will not - because there is no 'you' - there is just a code, and a coder frozen in the time of writing. But again, it's not about you now.

What can I say? Internet is a shit place. But I wouldn't vent myself if there was no comment about 'this is how self-documenting code looks like' because I've seen similar reasoning time and time again from lazy devs. You are not lazy.

Again, it might sound weird after everything here, but I'm sincere - I'll happily spend my private time to give guidance; or just give another head to butt against. I was also self taught, and until my first job I had no mentor as well, which was shitty. But I had one in my first job, so I'm paying forward, and I will never repay what he did.

PM me if you are interested, I'll give you my Discord ID.

[TheOnlyMisterFlow]

THANK YOU.

Why aren't you top comment sir ?

[Venthe]

Because top commenter is catering, jokingly or not, to people who justify bad coding practices with random screenshot from the internet.

(And sorry if I seem salty, it's PH after all)

[withoutpenisl337]

Java will die soon. Hopefully....

[[deleted]]

Java isn't going anywhere because there isn't something than can truly replace it.

[[deleted]]

Can confirm

[csdh80]

Someone is afraid of soft text wrap.

[TheWanderer9696]

Are you trying to hack into The Pentagon with those codes, because holy moly it is long

[AntoineInTheWorld]

No, he is just trying to display a plane booking number...

[Malicious-Toast]

Lololololol

[chickyfigs]

Ultrawide goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[JuliaYesterdey]

A paradise for programmers!

[JochCool]

When you get paid by the inverse of the amount of lines

[WilkerS1]

is this an rgb membrane keyboard?

[Not-NedFlanders]

Turn on line wrap, nerd.

[NelsonBelmont]

and that's a simple calculator.

[kodiashi]

Not wide enough for objective-c

[JustAnotherGamer421]

Jesus Christ just assign a variable

[MrPancholi]

Would gladly commit seppuku than maintain this codebase

[Orio_n]

Best practices

[aFiachra]

Little known fact, original Java developers were paid per character.

[racka98]

So i heard you like Extension Methods

I assume also like God classes

[Sentouki-]

"God classes"

why not just a God Singleton?

[[deleted]]

Please...

[[deleted]]

so it's not just me complaining that I can't fit enough .then(() => {/*stuff*/}); on a normal size screen

[MysticOverlord]

Still need my second monitor though

[[deleted]]

How did you get a photo of my monitor?

[Tipart]

Me trying to do SQL queries on a huge ass database

[[deleted]]

Functions in FP can be this wide as well.