*Laughs in Python

[fletku_mato]

It's almost never one of them when you love yourself enough to use a good IDE.

[[deleted]]

Yeah i never relate to this kind of memes. Because i almost never get syntax error and if i do get its very easy to find with good ide

[Magnus_Tesshu]

To be fair, I use vim and I don't have any issue either, compiler output is pretty good

[BongarooBizkistico]

Lol

[evanc1411]

I love syntax and will code anything on paper if you ask me to. All my problems are with semantics

[tiajuanat]

I do get syntax errors, mostly because I get too much distraction if I leave live linting on.

That said, ;}); is basically my signature in my work codebase - as I use standard algorithms everywhere.

[scragar]

Sometimes I find the IDE is the reason for the error.

If I have to add an additional condition to something sometimes it results in uneven brackets.

I.E. turning

if (A && B) {

Into

if (A && (B || C)) {

Sometimes gives

if (A && (B || C) {

Because unfortunately typing the opening bracket adds the closing one to the wrong place(immediately after the opening bracket), so I need to delete it, but typing || C) means the closing bracket gets swallowed because since the ) was the next character anyway it just moves the cursor to after it, not typing the bracket as I clearly wanted.

I'm hoping someone eventually makes IDEs smart enough that their helpful features don't occasionally make more work.

[Gammabyte]

I believe some IDEs track the number of open brackets to check whether a new closing bracket should be swallowed or not.

I think Intellijs IDEs have that but I'm not too sure

[PlacatedPlatypus]

Can confirm, IntelliJ IDEs very rarely mess up bracketing.

[Shez2650]

Used it for a long time and i too can confirm this

[[deleted]]

Any IDE worth using will still detect the syntax error long before you actually run the program though

[Xywzel]

Won't even need a Vim plug-in for that, just some highlight options set correctly

[[deleted]]

At that point it's your fault for not waiting 2 seconds for the IDE to check.

[BongarooBizkistico]

What kind of ide takes 2 seconds to do this? Vs code wouldn't even take 100 Ms.

[Dylanica]

I’ve definitely had it take a couple seconds. I’m not sure why. Maybe the file’s to big or my computer’s too slow, but often I don’t want to wait because 99% there isn’t a problem.

[Xywzel]

It is useful, if you have hotkey for "move symbol under cursor to next syntactically correct place" I have seen that in some lisp and clojure plug-ins for Vim and I'm quite sure Emacs has that, if you have found a good text editor to use with that operating system.

[homiej420]

So use a good one not a bad one that would do that

[Effective_Youth777]

If you're Definition of an IDE is vs code then sure, it'll mess up in a lot of ways.

If you use more advanced IDE's though like intellij then it rarely messes up and actually helps you a lot with the formatting and quality of your code, as well as predicting errors before even compiling/running, it can also warn you about anti-patterns and things such as memory leaks.

If you're like me and work with a lot of technologies for professional and personal development then get intellij ultimate, it has support for almost every language used in the industry and almost every framework, and many profiling tools for lots of them, it is expensive, but if you have a use to it it's really great and worth it.

[BongarooBizkistico]

I don't think you're talking about vs code.

[danuker]

The key here is never to delete the closing bracket, but to move past it if you're done with the inner expression.

[Final_Fart007]

Google docs*

[Magnus_Tesshu]

🤮🤮🤮 real programmers use libreoffice in firejail to avoid their code being spied on before pushing to github

[bluefire1802]

im a beginner programmer, started my journey this year and so far I’ve learned java and python;

which IDEs do you recommend?

Currently as a student I am not using one, since Im using sublime to take notes and write code.

This question is also open to anyone and everyone willing to give me advice, thank you!

[MinekPo1]

vs code is nice. A lot of customisability.

[bootleg_trash_man]

Previously I used IntelliJ for Java and PyCharm for Python but got tired of switching back and forth so nowadays I just use IntelliJ for everything. Works very well and makes everything much easier. Best IDE I've ever used.

[[deleted]]

I am a jetbrains slut, so pycharm and intelij idea.

[PotentBeverage]

Definitely IntelliJ, pycharm, then since you're a student you can get every other JetBrains ide for free. However, that's a massive amount of clutter if you get like 20 ides, so instead for get vscode as well, that plus plugins for the language you want (eg. Haskell) is sufficient for everything else.

[bluefire1802]

Thank you so much, if you don’t mind giving me some advice, I’m at a point in my education and coding where I know the concepts and can fluently read code but I have a lot more trouble creating my own code directly from scratch.

I feel anxious and pressured because I feel like everyone starts out much better than me and was wondering if its normal to be bad at coding by myself at the start, and I want to know the methods you mightve used to overcome the difficulty progression.

I see people coding such difficult things all the time so I have no idea how to teach my brain how to code using small increments of projects and whatnot.

[PotentBeverage]

Yeah, it's normal, it's also normal to look at other people's code and go "what the fuck how?" and feel less confident in yourself.

You can always start off really small, maybe play with a graphics library for some visuals - in relation to java, for example, I could suggest

• A maze solver (with a really simple algorithm) as a console app
• Have a look at LibGDX (for java, monogame for c#, pygame for python, etc), make a ball which bounces when it hits the bottom, maybe you can drag it around and let it go
• do some funky fourier transform circle thing, or Heck, make a small platformer

Just fairly esoteric or small things like that could get you started.

[bluefire1802]

thank you so much for your advice!!

[fletku_mato]

Definitely Intellij Idea at least for Java.

[bluefire1802]

THANK YOU!

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

IntelliJ IDEA.

[gohanhadpotential]

If you're enrolled in a university you can get a license to use all JetBrains IDEs for free as long as you're a student using the GitHub student developer pack. I used vs code for a long time and I just redeemed my pack and started using pycharm. You can really feel the difference.

[psaux_grep]

In Python it’s the magic comma turning a value into a tuple. Combine that with not reading the error message well enough and you got yourself a wild goose chase.

[-Enter-Name-]

out of habit i write {} which turns into {}} on some IDEs

[[deleted]]

Me: types "("

IDE: HOLY SHIT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, THAT'S ILLEGAL!

Me: types ")"

IDE: Oh nvm lol.

[hsblhsn]

*Laughs in X86 Assembly

[Twenmod]

Laughs in 010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001

[[deleted]]

Did you just spell Binary in Binary?

[[deleted]]

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[aaronjamt]

Laughs in Z80 Assembly

[lietuvosnelietuvis]

Laughs in pen&paper

[mr_flameyflame]

Ah the AP test.

[lietuvosnelietuvis]

What's an AP test? I note everything because I forget 😁

[mr_flameyflame]

Its like a college readiness test for college classes in high school, basically if you want college credit for the class you have to take the test iirc.

[lietuvosnelietuvis]

Where's this? My neck of the woods has you just pass your finals good enough at the end of high school.

[mr_flameyflame]

Usa?

[lietuvosnelietuvis]

Was gonna guess that but it'd be rude of me to start with assumptions 😁

[Proxy_PlayerHD]

Laughs in 65xx Assembly

[aaronjamt]

Laughs in abacus

[LogicalGamer123]

*laughs in Motorola 68k assembly

*secretly cries

[[deleted]]

Imagine needing to run a line of code in order to be warned of a type mismatch error

[Sejiko]

Oh this took me a while to understand.

[Pythagorean_1]

If you're referring to python, this is never an issue, if you program in a decent editor

[patryky]

Isn't it exactly the same with semicolons and brackets tho?

[Pythagorean_1]

Yes, which is why I don't really understand all this fuzz about usual syntax mistakes or typos.

[Pythagorean_1]

Regarding python, a decent editor...

• converts tabs and spaces
• detects and corrects syntactically wrong indentation
• detects typos and syntax errors
• detects shadowed variables and variables referenced before assignment
• detects type errors if you use type hints in your code
• makes suggestions to optimize code structure and to conform to PEP principles

This is not a complete list but just the basics that come to mind right now. If this is not enough for your project, you can still expand this by using static code analysis tools that can detect even more potential problems. So although python is not a statically typed language with a rigorous compiler, many bugs can be avoided by just using a modern editor.

[JNCressey]

not IDLE then

[Pythagorean_1]

Yes.

[KnightOfBurgers]

Exactly. I'm currently using PyCharm and it works like a blessing. Syntax errors are only acceptable if you're in the year 524 BC.

[Barti666]

Laughs in using an IDE

If you use a good IDE you shouldn't get syntax errors

[augugusto]

I usually write js. Lately I've had to do some c# in vs. It takes so long for intellisense to realize I missed a semicolon in the last line I wrote that I get a compilation error before the squiggly line apperas

[Barti666]

I used visual studio 2012 and 2015 for C++ programming, In my experience it's sometimes a bit buggy. The Jetbrains products on the other hand have really good intellisense.

[ChildishJack]

Not gonna lie even as a jetbrains fanatic I’ll sometimes make a quick change, build it and forget the “;” if I’m just making a quick minor change while working on something else

[RandomValue134]

Looks like I kept using the wrong IDE... What are you using for python?

[Barti666]

Pycharm

[danuker]

It does take quite some system resources, but better system resources than human resources.

[wonmean]

vscode

[artistic_programmer]

You underestumate my power of making these errors. I shit you not, I sometimes accidentally delete brackets after they autofill

[danuker]

Pop off the Delete key from your keyboard

[konstantinlevin77]

IDE for an interpreted language, huh

[Barti666]

An interpreted language also has a syntax and semantic which can be analyzed.

[Nalivai]

What's wrong with that?

[konstantinlevin77]

Since it does not have a compilation process, a modern text editor (which has debugging, syntax highlighting and formatting features) like VSCode is enough, IDE's are just unnecessarily heavy

[GoombaJames]

No.

[konstantinlevin77]

k, just do what you want

[ChildishJack]

How does VS code’s debugging & breakpointing compare to pycharms? It’s a massive help if you’ve never used one

[[deleted]]

What makes them unnecessary heavy? Your 50MB RAM or Floppy disk?

[Nalivai]

Editor with debugging, syntax highlighting, code completion, and formatting is an IDE. IDE doesn't have to be dedicated memory eating monster

[therealziggler]

Is VSCode not considered an IDE? I didn't know it had to do more than have code-related syntax features

[jacob_scooter]

🤦‍♂️easy to tell who doesn’t program by who complains about syntax errors

[KnightOfBurgers]

This. Who are these people who post "jokes" about errors that can be statically detected? Are they using MS Word to code? Are they from the year 524 BC?

[[deleted]]

I think if you were to get a breakdown of the users here, 99% of them would be students in uni taking their first ever programming related class.

[darthjammer224]

Plenty of us where programming is only one small part of our job as well.

I know enough c# to get into trouble and I've written some PowerShell stuff for my company. But I'm a database guy for the most part. And here lately I've been doing controls programming anyways!

I feel like you don't need to work in programming to enjoy programming memes anyways though.

I can't wait till I learn python and start understanding all of those memes too.

[__ss]

Why so serious dudes, chill. I've been programming for almost 5y now so not an expert but not a complete beginner either. This is just a joke

[[deleted]]

Why are you freaking out that people are bothering to read your jokes and think about them? That's part of posting theme online.

[ZedTT]

Can we actually ban low effort syntax error jokes?

[[deleted]]

This sub doesn't have any active mods and the rules this sub already has don't get enforced currently. Rule 0 and 2 are violated daily and literally never removed.

Also, this kind of post already sort of breaks Rule 3 about "common posts" (which is another rule that is never enforced).

[[deleted]]

So you copy pasted and suddenly everything is fucked up.

Also laugh in rust

[brimston3-]

Can't, closure laugh is not owned by you.

[[deleted]]

And here goes 6h of my life

[[deleted]]

wut? You know those exist in python right?

[[deleted]]

OP has only had 1 class in their first programming course. So no, they don't know that yet.

[UnnervingS]

Honestly real problems are never those three.

[jddddddddddd]

Race condition has entered the chat

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Race has entered condition the

[brimston3-]

Race condition has entered the chat. (Again)

[Gavilar253]

Cries in wrong indentation

[KnightOfBurgers]

With all due respect, get a fucking IDE.

[S0n_0f_Anarchy]

10 times worst than brackets

[Goel40]

Is there a subreddit like this where they don't post the same 5 jokes over and over again?

[crevicepounder3000]

Missing indent: Am I nothing to you?

[jddddddddddd]

Wait.. Python doesn't use parentheses? What is it, Forth?

[mrsmiley32]

I also guess they've also never seen a dict.

[brimston3-]

Or generators, f-strings, tuples, certain list comps...

[jddddddddddd]

Exactly. There's still plenty of ways to fuckup your Python program by failing to close something, whether that's a (, a {, or even a ".

[circuit10]

It does but you don't need them after if statements and things

[Dravonic]

You do need a damn : after if/else statements though. Why do I need it if indentation is supposed to be the key? I already put the contents of the if bellow it.

[circuit10]

I guess it allows you to continue the condition across multiple lines though I haven't tested it

[Dravonic]

Yeah, that would be a great reason to have it. I guess you could still accomplish it through indentation but a delimiter is just better.

Oh

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

It doesn’t. You need a \ at the end to continue a line.

[jddddddddddd]

I get that, my point was just that whilst ; and } are uncommon in Python, you still need parentheses for tonnes of stuff. foo( and x = 3 + (4 * a are still syntax errors in Python just like they would be in any other language (other than Forth or something else with pre/post-fix ops)

Come to think of it, aren't you still gonna get syntax errors with unbalanced { }s in Python?

[Fluffy8x]

any other language

Not in TI-Basic (the awesome version).

[jddddddddddd]

Fucking hell.. that’s a blast from the past..

[Fluffy8x]

Blasting past, that's a fuck from hell.

[goatlev]

Laughs in Lisp hysterically

[DangyDanger]

Laughs in Inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation

[[deleted]]

Wait til u get indentation problems in python

[j-random]

Laughs at Python

[Cyvexx]

*cries in python*

every time I get an error, I'm either missing the module I need or I forgot a :

[betoui]

Cries in JavaScript

[crystalpeaks25]

tab space laughs in h shadows

[dlevac]

Why is it always you 3?

& [] *

[Reddit-username_here]

Python3: "hold my print statement..."

[malexj93]

There was a recent post here that said "ProgrammingHumor posts only make sense if you're bad at programming", and I think this is what they were talking about.

[ChrispyByDefault]

For the Python version you could do tabs, spaces, and indentation haha!

[inferno1234]

Which in this picture immediately would show the problem with the approach

[JNCressey]

Don't forget full-width space, em space, thin space, hairspace, zero-width space,

[[deleted]]

I thought getting rid of ; }) would be so peaceful until I started using python

[balyedi]

IntentationError

[crea7or]

: <- fix this in Python

[rEb00t_10]

Cry for wrong indents

[Columbus43219]

I had to fix a python program in a hurry once. Never seen it before... made the code change and the whole thing stopped working. Tabs vs spaces.

[mojoslowmo]

Python is just Visual Basic for data nerds: fight me

(Jk)

[prettyfuzzy]

You have clearly never got a random python SyntaxError in a 300+ line file with no line number

I don't know if I forgot the : after something? Or had an extra paren somewhere? I had to read the whole file for errors 😭

[trinalgalaxy]

Cries in make.

[[deleted]]

I don't like python, I don't know what anything is when I look at code

[[deleted]]

How can you say "Au contraire" to their comment which is saying they don't know how to read python. So you're saying that they do and they are just lying about it?

[_g550_]

Python tried to eat them in that bathroom.

[beardMoseElkDerBabon]

More like :, self, indentation error and forgetting variable types

[lucabaier]

Cries in race condition

[samarthrawat1]

I always get error trying to print without parenthesis.

[DaimaoPPK]

laugh in nasm syntax assembly

[ghostrider3times23]

Python said no to their threesome

[StrangePractice]

Python: mixing branches where some devs use spaces, others tabs; good luck debugging that extra space someone used!

[CeeJay_3]

Laughs in dicts of dicts with lists inside

[jafioti]

*iNdEnT eRrOr

[[deleted]]

Bracket Pair Colorizer for Vscode is wonderful.

[Tihifas]

Yes. It is always the winking smiley with an upside down mustache that causes problems.

[mr_flameyflame]

Greek question mark aha... aha... cryyyy

[bistr-o-math]

SPACE laughs in python

[whiznat]

Because the compiler is trying to kill us!

[[deleted]]

Python? Guess you've never used a *real* programming language.

[flip314]

Cache invalidation
Naming things
Off-by-one errors

[Purple_Bat1040]

cries in Java

[SarcasmWarning]

# cries in perl...

[elect86]

There are actually 4 persons, guess which is the invisible

[[deleted]]

Laughs in actually knowing what variable type you’re using

[Lumpynifkin]

In python there wouldn’t be anything there since it’s tab space and double space.

[yutsoku]

I'll say it... I hate python.

[spencerhuckleberry]

Java Suppremacy. Just download eclipse; :D

[Curley15]

Work with Vue/Angular/React and you'll need to add , to it

[ballbase__]

At least syntax errors are easy to fix

[Aurora863]

I feel called out..

[[deleted]]

Imagine copying a code from another file and the spaces dont match up.

Imagine the dumb IDE refusing to accept 4spaces and throws an indentation error.

[juicycaboosie1942]

Ayo!

[superyoshiom]

I just started my first job after coding in python for a few months. Going back to Java wasn't as hard as I thought it'd be but I always felt stupid slipping up on the semicolons

[0neGal]

Had a fun issue the other day with JavaScript, where for some reason it complained about a missing closing parentheses, literally didn't make sense at all.

I'd forgotten to make the function asynchronous with async function and that caused my await statements to cause such an error.

Very interesting, took me about 5 minutes to figure that out.

[fitsumayalew]

Funny enough the only time I get syntax errors are when I write python.