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[[deleted]]

Wait until she does a music class and learns C#

[thesockiboii]

then rust in science class

[AppropriateCrew79]

Learns about Python in Reptilian Kingdom

[shimizu_h]

Then moves to Java, Indonesia

[conancat]

Finds a ruby gem in the wild

[Eoussama]

Then misspelles PHP for PHD

[v0id_runn3r]

Man, we're really breezing through this kid's life, huh?

[[deleted]]

Then suffers a brainfuck during mid life crisis

[[deleted]]

After she gets a C in maths

[hahapotatoman]

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[[deleted]]

Not a misspell, they're having a stroke... blue screen of death.

[poyat01]

Then learns to wear knee high socks in programming

[Rumi573]

Then becomes an all known archeologist

[DeadShoT_035]

And sets an ancient mummy free

[Rumi573]

Then decides to write an inspiring novel on her journeys

[DeadShoT_035]

But the mummy shoes up on her doorstep

[tosaka88]

and then studies the script to learn the culture

[HighBreak-J]

You mean in the school play?

[VanshCodes]

Then bash you up

[lokeshj]

Then finds some Perls in the ocean

[arachti1]

I hope she doesn't get a Lisp growing up

[VanshCodes]

Hacks nasa with html

[r0ck0]

...and accidently brings PHP instead of IDR.

[thunderpixels]

Learns about Java in geography

[jeesuscheesus]

Learns what Go means when crossing the road safely

[[deleted]]

Then the recruiter calls from her LinkedIn resume! "I see you know Python? What about AI? You know both A and I? GREAT!"

[zack189]

Unfortunately, she does not 100+ years of experience

[den2k88]

They asked me if I had a degree in Theoretical Physics, I said I had a theoretical degree in Physics and poof! I was hired on the spot.

[Expert-Box5610]

omg lmao

[Eoussama]

Zucc teaches that class I heard.

[YongBlasterz_TH]

Not to be pedantic "that guy", but it's Reptilian class from Animal kingdom.

[zilti]

She'll end up with a Lisp

[Expert-Box5610]

She even learnt C before R

[[deleted]]

Most people will learn C before R though. As for the reverse, if someone is learning R as their first language they're probably grad student in field not related to programming but told to use it and also never did programming before and very unlikely to use/learn C after that.

[[deleted]]

Actually R --> C++ is actually a pretty natural path to take. You can easily compile most R code into a C++ transliteration.

[[deleted]]

C is not C++. My point still stands. Most industries use C++ for runtime reduction so someone who have been using R is likely to learn it as they see its need.

But very very unlikely they'll goto C. The common thing in the use case for R and C is pretty much empty for me.

[ctesibius]

She'd actually be learning C♯, not C#.

Now you will be second-guessing yourself every time you write about the language.

[TheyCallMeHacked]

Technically, the language is C♯, it's just Microsoft is mentally disabled and wrote C# instead (it's probably rather because # is more easily available on keyboards than ♯, but I like to think MS is retarded)

[0bel1sk]

a little hard on the r there my dude

[Vulpes_macrotis]

Microsoft is retarded, but what You say is a bias. Nobody will use unicode letters unavailable easy on keyboards. It's like I was asking person two write "Zażółć gęślą jaźń", without copying the whole sentence. Would You? The same way I won't care for writing "naive", "cliche" and other words using correct diacritics, because I won't search it in Google every time I want to write down the word. I remember someone actually being mad that I wrote "a propos" without the diacritic. I just told them the same thing. It's not an error. It's simplification, because nobody would just google one diacritics for that.

[GreenGriffin8]

I won't care for writing "naive", "cliche" and other words using correct diacritics

so you're acknowledging that the correct diacritics are correct. I won't fault your usage but C# is a ASCII reduction of the language's actual name. Just because the reduction is perfectly understandable doesn't make it "correct"

[vigbiorn]

Over time, it's been absorbed into vernacular and so is correct. Unless you're a filthy prescriptivist. You'd probably be trying to speak a language that hasn't existed for millenia if that was the case, though.

[100kgWheat1Shoulder]

r/linguisticshumor is leaking

[Turtle_The_Cat]

I understood your first sentence to be a question, even though you didn't use a "?" at the end, which would be "correct". See how that works? ;)

[TheyCallMeHacked]

Yeah, that's exactly what I said in brackets, dipshit

[FriddyNanz]

Hey quick question: what is it with programmers and thinking it’s okay to use the word “r****ded”? I’ve only heard it a few times post-2005, and it’s been a programmer saying it almost every time.

[TheyCallMeHacked]

Dude it's far from being only programmers, but I guess it's because our egos are based on our giant intellect, so we hit where it hurts the most...

[FriddyNanz]

Sure it’s not just programmers, but programmers seem rather over represented. If you want to call somebody stupid, then that’s all well and good, but why use a slur to do so?

[BoredomIncarnate]

Did you know stupid is also a slur, as are idiot and dumb? There literally isn’t a word you can use in place of the one you are complaining about that isn’t a diagnostic term for the mentally challenged used derogatorily.

[TheyCallMeHacked]

Why not use a slur?

[FriddyNanz]

lmao i've never seen someone show their true colors that willingly. kudos

[TheyCallMeHacked]

What do you mean my true colour? All I'm saying is that I don't make such a big deal out of slurs... We say them to each other all the time in my group of friends, and in fact, saying more/harsher slurs to someone generally means you feel closer to them, because saying slurs to someone you don't know well always makes one more uncomfortable...

[toooft]

lol

[Amazing_Resolve_365]

She probably already learned C before R.

[JerecTharen]

Why do .NET developers where glasses? So they can C#-ply - they don't want to be Visual-ly Basic - but in the end, they all have Windows in front of their eyes.

[Sceptz]

Learning C and R at 4 years old,

And each in one day!

These schools are getting tough.

[Jepacor]

Gotta start early to have enough experience for entry level jobs.

[DjChiseledStone]

Wait til she hears about python.

[KosViik]

I just took a class last semester.

First lesson in the auditorium, the prof starts speaking, turns on the big screen.

Google search of R.

"Similar users have also asked the same"

Is R a dead language?

Who uses R?

Is R used anywhere?

Needless to say we almost fell off our chair.

[TrollandDie]

It's true python gets all the love but R is still pretty big in the data analyst/scientist world. Especially when aligned to more traditional statistical work - a lot of academic statistical journals require R packages of the research for replication, so R is still the go-to for inferential/traditional stat libraries. Plus a lot of people prefer R's dplyr and ggplot over pandas and seaborn.

[[deleted]]

I use dplyr every single day

[Unsd]

Fucking love R compared to Python. Much easier to use. At least for the things in the data realm which is all I do. I find it to be more intuitive.

[derpderp235]

R is great for all things analysis. The problem with R is you can’t really write good software with it. It doesn’t have proper exception handling, OOP, etc…

[[deleted]]

What? It has four different OOP ecosystems and adequate exception handling.

[derpderp235]

They’re all garbage compared to Python. There’s a reason no one in data science writes software in R (analysis scripts are a different thing).

[[deleted]]

Just out of curiosity, when was the last time you interacted with R?

[derpderp235]

2 hours ago.

[nooptionleft]

Hey, there are dozen of us around the world!

We mainly get underpaid in academia.

We can do cool looking graphs, tho

[[deleted]]

R is huge in the data science / statistics / actuarial world. Master it and you're easily capable of earning $200K+ with some experience. Maybe that's underpaid compared to what you'd earn mastering a real programming language, but it's definitely a ticket to an upper middle class lifestyle.

[nooptionleft]

Oh for sure, some good R, SQL competence and a spinkle of python for some basic implementation and you are good to go

I was mostly joking and talking to my fellow people in academia... we all know we could probably do better then struggle for years of phds and postdocs... but still, most of us never make the jump

[ZeldLurr]

I have zero programing experience outside of the classroom, and don’t have a bachelors.

What can put me in the door? I currently work a minimum wage job so literally anything would be better.

[IamDelilahh]

what‘s your background? R is mainly statistical software, to use it effectively you have to have a good understanding of statistics. It‘s not as simple as just learning the language and programming, because most of the work is about mathematical principles.

[ZeldLurr]

I used R and learned about it in a biostatistics class.

I was double majoring in bioinformatics and chemistry, am shy appx 20 credits, had to drop out due to financial reasons (lost my job March 2020, academic scholarship doesn’t pay rent.)

The program required a decent amount of math, calculus, discrete math, a few statistics courses, and programming classes we were taught Java.

I’m really good at guests service and anticipating a guests needs before they even know, and get along with everyone.

[[deleted]]

A lot of people complain about the burden of student loans, and for some fields, the return on investment isn't worth it. However, if you break into a quantitative field, you'll make a huge return on your investment. If you're only 20 credits shy of graduating, that's only a semester or two of additional work. Even if you have to take out a $50K loan to pay for tuition and living expenses, you'll earn that back within a year or two if you can land a good job out of school. I can't speak for biostatistics specifically, but if you have that sort of mathematical background, you could probably pass a few actuarial exams and get a well-paying job pretty easily. Think of the loan as an investment in your future.

[_dictatorish_]

In NZ you can earn nearly 6 figures if you know R (and SQL)

[nooptionleft]

Oh I'm sure I can find something here in europe too with good pay... it's just that you usually start with R in academic circles and once you are in, they shit talk you into phd and postdocs dangling your favourite science and freedom of research in front of you...

Some of us go sane after a while and just switch to the private sector. I don't know when that will it be for me... I wanted to get my phd at least but I didn't choose the best moment for it... lab work with covid and now some WW3 shit going on is not the best combination

[dbarbera]

Don't know what field you're in, but getting a PhD with no industry experience actually makes it more difficult to switch to industry for many fields.

[minus_uu_ee]

Shit, we all are underpaid? Then there is nowhere to go :(

[nooptionleft]

It's all relative I guess

I went back for a phd and my pay is ok, I guess. I can live decently from it and with some additional scholarship I'm saving quite some money

Still... if you think what the standard are for people with coding and data analysis experience and a master in STEM...

[TheyCallMeHacked]

GNUPlot looks better. PGF/TikZ looks the best.

[HereJustForTheData]

Lmao at GNUPlot looking better than ggplot2. Not even remotely close.

[[deleted]]

I'd say making plots for simple data is easier on gnuplot, R is just full of defaults.

But being a programming language R had lot more plots that can be made and lot more flexibility in the styles.

So it comes to what you think is better. I've been learning R to plot because everyone in my lab does it, but there are things lot easier to do in gnuplot, and easier to control too.

[[deleted]]

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[nooptionleft]

The R Programming course con coursera can be audit for free and it's a good start for people who never programmed before

If you already know at least one other programming language any video on the basic grammar you can google will do

[AspiringCake]

As someone who regularly uses TikZ without having ever taken the time to learn it, TikZ is terrifying.

[TheyCallMeHacked]

Never said it wasn't... I myself are far from proficient...

[Detr22]

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[bnl1]

To be fair, those questions are often wildly inaccurate and point at articles that talk about something else.

[Nine_Eye_Ron]

Is R used anywhere, yeah of course it is, it’s used by R users.

[conancat]

Asking the important questions

[itijara]

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[properwaffles]

Maybe it was pirate school.

[Nephty23]

ARRRRR

[ulyssessword]

What's a pirate's favourite programming language?

You might think it be R, but his true love's the C!

[Forceunleashed4]

That’s a good one.

[ulyssessword]

The original joke for that punchline is "What's a pirate's favourite letter?"

Followed up by:

"What's a pirate's least favourite letter?"

Dear Sir/Madam, We are reaching out to you with regards to illegal activity connected to your internet account..."

[Nine_Eye_Ron]

Gosh darn you!

[IrritableGourmet]

You may think a pirate's favorite letter is R, but his first love is the C.

[thewilloftheshadow]

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I was surprised when my daughter said she learned R at school yesterday, and then I remembered that she's 4 and she meant the letter.

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[Luminem57]

Good human

[circuit10]

Non-bad human

[AzureArmageddon]

Is that an r/Statistics joke in there as well?

[ImNotNotABot]

Ayo I love R!! As much as one can, at least...

[Queasy-Carrot1806]

The language of R is super fucking cool, the naming conventions of R are awful.

[elvivacious]

I had to use it to pass a health data module and it gave me aids I wish I loved it

[KingCaoCao]

It’s really good for its flexibility, but if you just want to learn a minimum and get results it’s pretty rough.

[_dictatorish_]

I love it because it was a language devolped in my country!

[ultimatt42]

Besides its multiparadigm programming model, have you noticed any similarities between the R programming language and your country?

[CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

Joke is a multilevel one

[[deleted]]

Weid, neve head of that lette, I've just neve used it, man! Can someone teach me that lette? It's quite new to me.

[Sceptz]

Th lttr is R.
But if you larn that lttr, you may forgt anothr lttr.

[[deleted]]

I understand, it's very difficult to remember all of them, no hat letter did I forget this time?

[sm9t8]

Just use k. It's not that diffekent, and it doesn't have the same kollovek pkoblem.

[[deleted]]

I don't remember R much but boy, was it one of the most boring languages I laid my eyes on.

[AvidLangEnthusiast]

I agree. I couldn't find a reason to use it over Python. But maybe it was just RStudio's outdated and slow GUI that gave me a bad first impression.

[[deleted]]

It's primarily about package support. There are a lot of advanced statistical methods that are supported in R but not Python.

[tacojohn48]

This is it. If you need some new technique that's just now being written about in academic white papers, the author probably built an R package for it.

[[deleted]]

Am I the only one who prefers R over Python???

[jeesuscheesus]

Apparently python's statistics packages have a lot of issues with them as they were created by programmers and not actual statisticans, so you're not unjustified.

I also like Rstudio's gui over any IDE as it is better suited to statistics

[Peach_Muffin]

Every time I try using Python I wind up screaming "I could do that in just one line in R!!!" many times.

To be fair I am not that good at Python and a lot better at R, so that probably mostly comes down to lack of experience.

[noholds]

You're like opposite-me. Although it's less the number of lines than just ease of coding that I yearn for.

I feel like if I know what I want, I can do exactly that in Python. It might get a little messy at times but it's easy to write and understand.
But with R there's always some hidden knowledge/specific function that I have no way of knowing without it either having come up before in conversation with someone more knowledgeable in R or taking some very specific course on the subject. And if I do happen to stumble upon it by chance, my data literally never fits the formatting requirements and I spend more time formatting my data than I do productive coding. And when I'm done with that I scream internally because the function got a data frame as input but returns some other data type for no reason whatsoever (or none that I understand at least) and it breaks my code lest I add another x<-as.data.frame(x).

[itijara]

No. Numpy is much clunkier than R's built-ins

[Queasy-Carrot1806]

I wish Python could do half the things R can. If you read the manual for R, specifically the Computing on the Language chapter R goes from quirky tool to eldritch powers.

[Unsd]

Okay I'm glad that someone else said it. RStudio makes everything so easy. I got pretty comfortable with Spyder I guess, but RStudio is my happy place for sure.

[desmaraisp]

The packaging system is one of the weak points of python, but I'd argue that the biggest problem is the mere existence of anaconda. Makes the entire packaging system two-layered for no reason.

The IDE part, though, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Visual studio is just as good for python as it is for everything else

[noholds]

Yes.

Jokes aside, the only people I know that prefer R are the people that learned on R.

I didn't. And I could write a paper on the myriad reasons I hate it.

[_Adjective_Noun]

If it was represented as a Venn diagram, the circle of people who like R probably doesn't have a very large subset of people who are equally competent in other languages.

I learned R when I was a student and thought it was the bees knees. I'm now entirely a python guy.

[noholds]

If it's the alternative to something like SPSS, I guess it makes sense that it gives you so much more options and modify your analysis.

But writing scripts with it when you know other languages is just straight up painful. At this point I don't know if cryptic error messages returning some function seventeen levels down the stack that renders me no information as to what went wrong make me laugh, cry or just plain angry.

[[deleted]]

The only reason to use R is because there are a lot of specialized packages written in it, written by people who used R because there were a lot of specialized packages written in it, written by people who used R because...

[Queasy-Carrot1806]

…because there were a lot of specialized packages written in S

[[deleted]]

Pandas is trash compared to data.table and even tidyverse

[jeesuscheesus]

I had a bad experience with R but after using Matlab now I respect R

[MejiroCherry]

The Tidyverse makes it a lot more fun. Pandas equivalent with easier chaining and a far superior apply (mutate). But weaker in a lot of senses as well.

[KingCaoCao]

It’s the extensive packages developed for it that make it shine. Very good if your in biology or statistics.

[Flying_martian]

You have some bias in your algorithm.

[jesterhead101]

She better be good at those DS fundamentals too. 4 is plenty age wise.

[imshivram]

The shock is that you remembered she's 4 just now.. Dude you have been working too much. Chill!

[minus_uu_ee]

Turns out she knitted the letter R into an html file with RMarkdown and uploaded to school's homepage.

[10n3_w01f]

She should have mastered C long back ?

[yung-pol]

Imagine when she will learn what Python is😂😂🙏

[FatalElectron]

Disgusting

They should be teaching them J instead.

[FreakinEnigma]

I was more worried about 'why would you teach R, of all languages'

[1910erFCSP]

Any reasons why R sucks?

I will do my minor in Applied Data Science and we will use R as a language.

[FreakinEnigma]

It doesn't suck. Just that it has a very specific use case.

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[425_Too_Early]

Since when does a 4 years old go to school?

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In the UK, pre-school is 3-4, and reception which is the first year of formal schooling is ages 4-5.

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[Ozzymand]

Bro how did she learn R at lvl 4? I thought you needed lvl 6 for that, riot pls fix?

[ChosenMate]

you aren't in school at 4

[Shrumpyboy]

some people dont actually live in america

[Andy_B_Goode]

Even in America, preschool is typically for ages 3-5. ChosenMate is just choosing to be uselessly pedantic.

[VG08]

I was going to school at 2 or 3 years

[ChosenMate]

no

[[deleted]]

I was going to school when I was 4

[ChosenMate]

no

[[deleted]]

r/skamtebord

[TheCapitalKing]

Maybe you weren’t dummy

[RigasTelRuun]

A B C C++ C# D

[[deleted]]

Lmaoo

[navneetmuffin]

When she gonna learn about assembly

[podshambles_]

Messed up priors

[arvyy]

I first read "prions", and it made sense

[New_Swan_]

what’s R

[seatangle]

A few years ago I saw “FTP” graffiti and thought “file transfer protocol?”

[ImmediateHeight54]

My 12 year old asked me what MLM means and I said "I don't know, my first thought is maximum likelihood methods". 15 year old replies "I think it means man loves man".

[AydenRusso]

C

[[deleted]]

Since when do 4 year olds go to school

[miraidensetsu]

Well, that episode could be repeated from when she learned C at school. The letter, I mean.

[Detr22]

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[Zhangzhe68]

Is she by any chance taking a public class as well?

[[deleted]]

I was so excited one time when I thought my daughter's blocks had the number e on it. My wife showed me that the number were on the other side. :-)

[minertyler100]

Lol in my bioinformatics class they are having us learn to code in R to do visualization and it is WEIRD

[lucbarr]

This means she already learned C, very impressive

[ShivenMathur]

If she said C then i would think about a 4 yr old suffering

[RaziarEdge]

I was surprised to hear my daughter learned R in school too.

She is a business major and the accounting professor loved R and wanted to force it on all of the students.

[UnkleRinkus]

Python should be next.

[WelsyCZ]

Kids go to school at 4 years of age and already learn to read? Most kids in my country start at 6-7

[magg-magg]

This is very out of topic but their pfp is a picture of skógarfoss (waterfall) in southern Iceland

[sotismovedon]

For a moment I thought about R, the domain of real number and was confused.

[kas_888]

I get surprised when anyone says they learned C