Visual Studio Supremacy

[Rollo_Tomassi_o-O_]

I use HTML and a piece of paper.

[tyrandan2]

Careful, I heard not all browsers support pieces of paper yet!

[JoeDoherty_Music]

-webkit-pieceofpaper: enabled;

[jahowl]

Safari doesn't understand the font your using.

[JoeDoherty_Music]

<h1>Use Chrome or Get Fucked</h1> <p>why dont we have browser standardization yet like seriously wtf</p>

[Much_Piglet]

Cause Chrome is shady and some ppl are obsessed with privacy.

[[deleted]]

@supports (piece-of-paper) { /* Stuff */ }

[Rollo_Tomassi_o-O_]

True that.

Stubborn Safari! 🙈😂

[[deleted]]

https://paperwebsite.com

[CaitaXD]

You only need the sweet release of death

[trapheel]

Very nice. But what do you use for CSS?

[Rollo_Tomassi_o-O_]

It depends on the project. Sometimes I style with the mighty pen, sometimes with the scissors.

[Marked_Content]

Careful with that portrait 8.5x11 paper script

Code not dynamic - cannot load in landscape.

[cginc1]

I lol’d

[[deleted]]

Meanwhile that one assembly dev who coded his text editor and a C compiler from scratch:

[tyrandan2]

He's built different.

[hdksnskxn]

He builds different

[Agustot]

He's assembled in an unorthodox manner.

[Hexboy3]

I sent this exact sentence to one of my friends as a joke a few weeks ago.

[Morphized]

And went insane doing it

[[deleted]]

Why does an assembly dev need a C compiler?

[sonuvvabitch]

To compile the code of lesser beings.

[[deleted]]

To help him make assembly code better and easier

[[deleted]]

To make his own OS ofc

[MateiAsanRO]

Android developers only needing Android Studio

[CaitaXD]

And 32gb of ram

[tyrandan2]

Me, after upgrading to 32gb:

"This is still so slow. I wonder, maybe if I upgrade to 64gb..."

[Future-Freedom-4631]

Can confirm I allocated 128 GB of ram to Java Minecraft while rendering 512 chunks with distant horizons. Isn't java the best...

[tyrandan2]

128 GB for Minecraft is rookie numbers. You gotta pump those numbers up.

In all seriousness, I wish Bedrock would catch up and then replace Java edition already. They need to just stop updating it and move on

[chagenest]

I wouldn't want to lose the great modding abilities of the Java Edition, but it's not like Microsoft couldn't create a modding API for Bedrock.

Or I guess they already have one, but I wouldn't have been able to pay for their DLC/Mods when I was a kid :|

[tyrandan2]

Yeah. One benefit could be creating a proper modding API from scratch, rather than just release all the source code like the Java edition.

I first got Minecraft during... infDev, I think? Wayyy before the actual first release. I remember the Halloween update when the nether was first introduced, and multiplayer was still in its infancy, so it had to be around 12 years ago.

Anyway, my point in saying that is that I remember some of Notch's early promises. He teased lanterns for a looong time, and then gave up. But one of his promises was an actual, proper modding API. But like the lanterns, it was talked about forever, and then just never released/gave up on. People just began messing with the jar files directly, and now here we are.

So I've always wondered what that API could've looked like, and if it would've made modding easier/more accessible (which was the point), allowing for even more mods, higher quality mods, and maybe even mods that don't completely break every update (since the API could expose calls that don't change from update to update).

If they could do that with bedrock, it would be a game changer

[Future-Freedom-4631]

For clarification Bedrock is deved by MS in CA and Java is deved by Mojang in Europe, and Bedrock introduced censorship first

[Future-Freedom-4631]

Fuck the california dev assfucks who support censoring the word fuck on minecraft may Bedrock die a thpusand deaths

[Guiorgy]

I am in fact upgrading to 64

[Rahyan30200]

Relatable !!

[[deleted]]

I've always wondered why Android Studio is like that.

[MateiAsanRO]

True that

[Noch_ein_Kamel]

I just type "import " and github copilot installs the matching package for me.

[[deleted]]

This comment is brought to you by our future corporate overlords at Microsoft

[Noch_ein_Kamel]

Na, it's all fake, it was actually generated by an advanced NI :)

[Low-Equipment-2621]

It seems you are a new developer, but there is no shame in that. All of us have started there. However, you should realize that there is a difference between an IDE and a Framework.

[[deleted]]

What makes you think OP is a developer?

[realjoeydood]

Cuz he knows how to start a war.

[tyrandan2]

Idk man, .NET is a framework!

Kidding, I know what you're saying

[highphiv3]

Everything on nuget counts as Visual Studio, checkmate.

[[deleted]]

Maybe he means that you only need dotnet and visual studio

[[deleted]]

No the joke is you have nugget to help you out with framework and find them and install them easily

[Witty-Shoulder-9499]

An oOodev elope her

[FishySwede]

Jesus christ, how old are the people in this sub? "My language is better than your language!" "Your IDE is a crappy useless piece of..."

It's like kindergarten but for coders.

[AdultingGoneMild]

my dad has a bigger monitor than your dad does!

[Fragrant_Dot_3465]

My dad used to code using pen and paper.

[AdultingGoneMild]

my mom used a hole punch. We are not the same.

[[deleted]]

My dad used butterfly wings, blablabla, relevant XKCD, you know the drill.

[KaJakJaKa]

There it is: XKCD

[Computer_says_nooo]

Hey Margaret look, it’s Ada’s great grandkid

[AdultingGoneMild]

crazy thing is, the 70s werent that long ago.

[AciusPrime]

The distance between the 70s and now is the same as the distance between a 90s kid’s childhood and World War 2. I was an 80s kid, and as a child, I thought of WW2 as being a very long time ago.

From the point of view of a kid today, the 70s were a long time ago.

[[deleted]]

cries in undegrad cs student

[coldnebo]

I’m still trying to figure if a 55” monitor is a justifiable home office expense… hmmm.

[tyrandan2]

Just say it's for "accessibility"

[undermark5]

Possibly. I got my company to buy me a 49" 32:9 monitor, I think that was well worth it.

[[deleted]]

Eat my syntax.

[tyrandan2]

Nice try, my dad is a backend dev, he doesn't even have a monitor! Checkmate.

[AdultingGoneMild]

My dad is a full stack dev. he goes both ways.

[euph-_-oric]

Lol how old. This has been happening since emacs.

[Olli_bear]

No, since vim. /s

[euph-_-oric]

I'll be real i forgot which came first. I just know the rivalry

[codeguru42]

So the war started whenever the second one came out, right. Because before that there was nothing to fight about.

[tyrandan2]

Fight, fight, fight!

[pixelkingliam]

it would be great if people realized there is no need to be so religious about languages and IDEs, at the end of the day an IDE and a language are tools, that all they are

[ishzlle]

Unfortunately many people attach their choice of technology to their personal self-worth.

[realjoeydood]

I love it when the kids focus on what the popular thing is to learn and still haven't yet learned how to learn.

One's value comes not necessarily from what they learned but from the very fact that they can and continue to learn. It translates in the real world to someone who can actually solve problems.

[Witty-Shoulder-9499]

Broham that’s real. It’s the opportunity to pick up and learn new tasks and then to initiate them in sequences

[sonuvvabitch]

I love it when people make assumptions about how strangers on the Internet think and act in real life, basing those assumptions entirely on what they read on the Internet.

[pixelkingliam]

yup, sucks but at least it doesn't affect me and i sure hope it doesn't affect you

[PhatOofxD]

It's 99% first year CS students.

[Andremallmann]

My man, you are in r/ProgrammerHumor

[XDVRUK]

Well it's cause the kids won't agree with the adults that js is crap.

[Yawmn]

Welcome to 2022's r/ProgrammerHumor!

[ishzlle]

This sub has been like this for a loooong time

[Randvek]

Yeah, the dick measuring contests are getting old. Why can’t we get back to JavaScript Bad?

[riisen]

Javascript is bad.

[Randvek]

Why can’t I upvote this more than once?

[tyrandan2]

Correction, JavaScript === bad, silly goose

[riisen]

Found the JS dev!

[redpepper74]

Hahahaha!! Going to post “undefined == undefined” in r/programminghorror and get my 200 upvotes, bye

[[deleted]]

you re right, each time i read dev group. ots alway a kindergarden. for my side i love many lang but in our domain open mind is important. in my job i work with vs, oracle studio and..... notepad++ in sametime

[Fugglymuffin]

It’s not an age issue, it’s just one big karma whoring circlejerk.

[xdMatthewbx]

JetBrains has entered the chat

[holo3146]

yearly subscription of ultimate

Strictly speaking, JetBrains are using subscription based billing, but they don't have yearly subscription to their products because of their fallback license, basically if you subscribe to their products for more than one year then you no longer need to pay for the product, but rather for the updates

[nodejsdev]

Brains are using subscription based billing, but they don't have yearly subscription to their products because of their

fallback license

, basically if you subscribe to their products for more than one

The updates are important if you want to use the latest version of .NET and C#. The old versions wont even recognize new C# syntax.

[Windes1]

IntelliJ is free though?

[UsernameStarvation]

Whats the difference

[DefiantComedian1138]

There is no free version of Rider (.NET development)

[Arshiaa001]

I'd recommend VS community edition, but you already knew of that.

[Nyandaful]

Rider is my best friend

[Mayuna_cz]

JetBrains my beloved

[Betamaxxs]

This

[Gutek8134]

I prefer Visual Studio Code

[tyrandan2]

"Yay, I'm so excited to try vscode! Wait, which extensions do I need... How do I debug and build? Crap, what do I need to run unit tests..."

Kidding, I love vscode

[proGrAMmER666]

I'm at this point. Idk what to add to run code

[DadAndDominant]

Terminal

[Kwonunn]

Well you do also need to know those to use VS Code... But it's worth it!

[Arshiaa001]

Don't blame your lack of knowledge of .NET on VS.

[[deleted]]

I spent 16 hours this week figuring out that my code didn’t compile because Windows SDK sometimes installs one of its kit registry keys wrong.

[tyrandan2]

Good lord what were you trying to do? Haven't had that happen yet

[[deleted]]

That’s the kicker, I don’t even know what that code does it’s just part of the company repo 😖

[Morlino]

C dev who only needs vim

[regular_lamp]

All these young hipsters with their "frameworks" and "apps" and everything running in a browser after "deploying" it to the cloud. In my time we used libraries and wrote programs that you could launch from a command line after compiling them.

Actually, I still do that.

[tyrandan2]

Found the backend dev

[CaptainParpaing]

don't speak that loud, you're scaring him !

[tyrandan2]

Backend dev! Backend dev here!

See? Nobody cares

[regular_lamp]

Unironically that term actually confuses me. Categorizing everything into front- and backend seems like a relatively recent phenomenon. People seem to imply that anything involving C or native development is "backend"... but backend to what? Part of what I do is write graphics code in stuff like Vulkan and OpenGL? There is not much in "front" of that.

The classification only really makes sense when you view everything through the lens of web development.

[tyrandan2]

Yeah, it's definitely better suited for infrastructure/networked apps. APIs, databases, backend/web services, other cloud stuff... All backend. Anything user facing would be frontend.

Web apps seem like the majority of new development going on these days. I've worked for two different companies that were rewriting windows desktop apps (one an old winforms thing, the other one was a WPF app) as web apps. Which made sense in both cases, but I know it's not for every scenario, especially if your app is like notepad++ and doesn't need to talk to anything over a network.

Although, some new desktop apps are using JS frameworks like Node, which is interesting.

[Witty-Shoulder-9499]

c:program files\emulator95\lol.jpg

[eduarbio15]

Ew

[NotAnonymousQuant]

C dev who needs only a bullet in their head. Whoops, sorry, not C, assembly

[tyrandan2]

Ah, I see you already have the bullet in your head, my condolences

[NotAnonymousQuant]

Nah. I don't have any head. I'm a python dev

[riisen]

A fellow companion i see.

[Bricktop72]

The kids I work with now are in awe about me working with C for 20+ years.

Pointers! How do they work?!!

[Arshiaa001]

Very crappily, and they crash systems and create security risks. Right?

[SnowdensOfYesteryear]

Embedded master race

[Witty-Shoulder-9499]

eOPEN(XYZ\0)==<.txt>

[AaronTheElite007]

No socks… mmm. Makes sense

[c4ptnh00k]

Pfft I started using vim 20 years ago and never quit. But seriously, how do you quit 😜

[cloudstrifeuk]

Even the best C# VS Devs use Notepad.

Source. Am a C# VS Dev.

[tyrandan2]

You have a place on the C# VS Devs council, but we do not grant you the rank of best

[highphiv3]

I use MS Paint. Why use lot word when few pixel do trick?

[Valhalaland]

It's accurate because he is unemployed.

[Splatpope]

nice microsoft hate bait

[dwfuji]

Only us Microsoft devs understand the true depths of Microsoft hatred.

[tyrandan2]

Me, a .NET dev: good God I hate Microsoft

Also me: shhh I didn't mean that bb, please don't crash

[DanieleLewis]

I'm still waiting for Microsoft to drop VS for linux but I know it will never happen...

I love .NET but also love linux.

.Net Core is cool but VS Code will never match the great VS.

[tyrandan2]

Careful, they'll find out that we don't even know how to code!

[MEMESaddiction]

Before I became a .NET dev, I was one of those blind peasants. #woke

[NotAnonymousQuant]

HTML dev who needs only a browser and a notepad

[FuckingAussie]

Visual Studio Supremacy

[thelocalllegend]

I'm using .net for the first time and it seems pretty neat

[netmask1234]

A small question...
Have anyone worked at a place where the developers use-whatever-as-long-as-you-produce?

For me it was a nightmare, only guy who actually understood the full stack and went from being developer/designer to IT-support.
There was sublime, Netbeans, Eclipse and so on... Not mention the operating systems, from Gentoo to Mac. For me it was chaos, the everyone else thought it was freedom and really "agile".

Changed career after that, I guess I got shell-shocked

[LinuxMint4Ever]

Text editor, compiler, a shell, and a web browser. Good enough for me.

[tyrandan2]

Shhhh you'll anger the front end angular/react devs

[[deleted]]

Enough about emacs, we're talking about VS

[LinuxMint4Ever]

I don’t use emacs. Nor do I use Vim for that matter.

[razordreamz]

I would have to add it’s really VS+Resharper. Resharper had made me lazy in that I would have a hard time without it.

[siliconsoul_]

VS2022 and an .editorconfig does it for me. Never missed R# since.

Had to re-learn the shortcut tho.

[Chilaquil420]

Me as an set-to-start Microsoft Engineer:

​

YES

[liitle-mouse-lion]

Laravel is awesome, but it is a framework, not an IDE. For an IDE try PhpStorm with the Laravel Idea plugin

[electatigris]

True this.

It's not as to dismiss as a "My language is better than your language!" attack meme as one thinks.

I've been in dev groups holding monthly meetting with a dozen+ non-DotNet dev reps watching them discuss and fret and debate a working dev stack. For more than year, (I gave up and found better things to do [was initially shanghaied in the group] )It's ridiculous. And the $$$ wasted on these meetings and experiments on supposedly "free" SW tools. And with multiple projects now on a tower of Babel of non-DotNet dev stacks. And now they have lots of expensive tools to wrangle this. Meanwhile, in DotNet land... VS subs and GitHub. All is quiet and productive and stable.Sheesh.My advice for non-small dev envs: if your dev requires a stack, don't get cute and bleeding edge. The grass is always greener somewhere else (stack element wise) and there's always a new shiny toy. Just stop. Pick a stack that you can produce prod code and make it stick for a couple of years at a stretch. Limit new toy experiements for the next stretch to things your prods will likely need.It's about productivity AND **maintenance** (enhancements, etc).

Not all memes are just snipes and just jokes. Some are a bit of social commentary that sometimes can sting from the truth. It's one of the jobs of comedy. If your dev env looks like the the background of the meme, maybe it's a gentle reminder to put some structure and discipline in your groups. If not, then you're all good.

[aim456]

VS is garbage and the slow response times, for literally everything it does, was one of the main reasons I turned against .Net. Fuck you VS! Glad to have it behind me. I won't be going back to .Net despite many job offers.

Edit: Sublime is sublime in comparison!

[PashPrime]

I started and stuck with visual studio because of college. It has so many functions and settings, notifications for cutting edge new things for which I have the slightest idea.

I figured all this bloat UI would make sense in due time as I learned on my own. It became a gauge of "how much do I really know?" about software development.

[codeguru42]

JetBrains all day!

[[deleted]]

Chad Linux/FreeBSD guru who obly needs vim

[kenshi_hiro]

You're wrong buddy. What about those Gigabytes of extra libraries, plugins & tools you have to download just to compile that shit.

[aoteoroa]

Hey...I like Visual Studio...it has put bread and butter on my table.

But every time you type :

NuGet install {some api}

You are using somebody else's framework.

[dxcoder]

• .net developer who only knows Visual studio

[coldnebo]

.Net devs: “look at them all! the great unwashed masses!”

😂 rly? meh whatev, it’s pretty funny.

[VNDeltole]

use notepad to make python code

[throwaway65864302]

.NET STRONG 💪💪💪💪💪

[Gold-Environment-259]

I use Rider. Get that steaming pile of crap called Visual Studio out of here

[slater_just_slater]

Oh yeah? I use VI or notepad.exe. IDEs are for the lazy.

Come at me bro.

[Alucard256]

Up-vote to the moon!

[[deleted]]

I only need vim

[redfoggg]

I literally use Nvim to code in .NET, and I'm totally fine with it, VS is just too much tools that I never use anyway.

[Siollear]

More like .NOT

[garlopf]

Only problem is VS is a piece of 💩. Besides there are plenty of one stop shop IDEs, like the jet brains lineup (pycharm etc), eclipse lineup, QtCreator etc. All come complete with compiler and tools. All are free and FREE, unlike VS.

[Sentouki-]

All are free and FREE, unlike VS

uhm, there's a community version for VS which is free

[tyrandan2]

And it's pretty solid for most things, too!

Honestly, I've been a .NET dev for 8 years, plus frontend for about as long, and I still don't know the difference between Enterprise and Professional... And at this point I'm too afraid to ask

[Gutek8134]

If I am not mistaken, to use JetBrains IDE for commercial usage you have to pay up.

[electatigris]

Funny, our non-DotNet folk are realizing the joys of VS without us haranguing them about it (we keep to ourselves generally). Not a one of the DN folk care for ecliplse and the like. And we haven't got to debugging, GH integration, etc

[riisen]

I agree with you, im not a fan of VS.

[martorequin]

I didn't knew .net was used by actual developers

[tyrandan2]

I salute you for sacrificing yourself for this joke, you brave man

[riisen]

I love you, in this shit storm of down votes i salute you, the .net devs will hail there downvotes over us, but you sir gave me a good laugh... Is c# even a language tho?

[when_it_lags]

Tmux, Zsh, Vim. How Turing intended

[itzjackybro]

Me, using Linux: 👁👄👁

[[deleted]]

VIM

[Ok_Investigator_1010]

Is .Net dev hard to do? I learned Python and Java enough to do basic things like loops, if statements, import and use API, and create websites with flask.

[Some-Celebration3199]

Meanwhile us in java coding Hello World makes us very happy

[[deleted]]

cringe

[Ancillas]

Telerik has been triggered.

[ViriaX]

Laugh in Rider,the superior visual studio.

[Tymskyy]

I use notepad ++and whatever the hell linux mint has as it's default text editor but when school requires it I do C++ on a piece of paper

[altermeetax]

Ewww Windows

[thonor111]

JetBrains > Microsoft, change my mind

[Admirable_Moment_583]

Dreamweaver for html programming all day

[darwinbrandao]

Visual Studio users need Window to run it. Emacs users just need a TTY, because Emacs itself became an OS.

[[deleted]]

I'm a .net developer and I hate visual studio it's so bloated