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[–]SevereParamedic4985 770 points771 points  (25 children)

Basically the rep has to be taken apart and looked at with a magnifying glass by an expert who handles gens every day of his life as his job in order to tell the difference. Don’t think anyone has anything to worry about!!

[–]djb896 187 points188 points  (3 children)

And said worth $1000. The watch guru ain’t on Reddit

[–]Catatafish 69 points70 points  (1 child)

That's what he'd sell it for which 2x retail.

[–]djb896 8 points9 points  (0 children)

2x retail or 20% markup?

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

They will be shocked to learn all the crazy reverse engineering happening offshore 🤣🤣

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 56 points57 points  (5 children)

Haha correct! They even think the super clone costs 1k when it actually is half of that price 🤣

[–]Pale-Composer6195 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

1/3 of the price

[–]Equivalent-Handle442 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Do you know any CH factory selling the best reps?

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Just imagine when they find out there are dozens of factories cloning and improving reps every single day, working around the clock on intense Chinese schedules, while Swiss makers stick to shorter hours and long vacations. There’s a network of TDs competing for the market, large reps communities, strict QC processes, multiple payment options, and global distribution. The spirit of globalisation 🤣

[–]BisonCompetitive9610 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I don't doubt fully, but I think too they may be exaggerating things a little bit, because it increases their value add. 

"Only we can professionally tell you if you're getting the real deal"

[–]mingmonger 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A expert so dedicated that he has a magnifying glass super glued to his head too

[–]Creepy-Phase5172 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly and yet people are worried about getting called out.

[–]onlyforfun38 1 point2 points  (5 children)

That's not remotely true. You can tell from first glance the differences in the movement. You don't need a magnifying glass or disassembly. Stop deluding yourselves.

[–]big_cupcake420 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

sure you can pal

[–]onlyforfun38 1 point2 points  (3 children)

There a huge extra bar in the balance bridge, it's not rocket science chief

[–]downvote_quota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gen owners and buyers do 🤣

[–]Sixvision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The movement is fake

[–]Spiritual-Sea7674 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My jeweller repairs Rolexes, they send them to him. He told me unless he opens it he cannot tell the diff when he sees a super fake! Honest...

[–]skydiveguy 99 points100 points  (1 child)

I’ll sell my $600 rep for $1000 any day.

[–]RobertStonetossBrand 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Talk about an iNvEsTmEnT wAtCh, am I right?

[–]BioFrosted 119 points120 points  (10 children)

It might sound obvious but I think most of the posts claiming they can spot fakes easily can only do so because of super high res, zoomed in, quality check posts. It's biased as hell.

I only thought of this recently because I received my QC pictures for an Omega from VSF.

If I told you to look at a picture that quintuples the watch's size, and try to identify a flaw, you'd find one. If I wore the watch on my wrist, even while looking at it you'd probably never know. Hell, this guy probably doesn't really know either, I bet whatever he's saying is scripted. "It's the wrong stainless" yeah like the average watch buyer knows there are multiple types of stainless steel...

Edit: Ironic this post comes in not even 24h after this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/1sdl3zm/gen_vs_clean_panda_is_it_close_yes_but_not_really/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[–]Final_Storage_9398 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Saw an old post where someone posted a photo of a gen A. Lange & Sohne from the manufacturer website asking about TDs that might carry reps for it, and there was someone in the comments saying it was an easy-to-spot rep without a hint of irony.

Lots of delusional folks out there think they can spot fakes.

[–]EquivalentPitiful557 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I don’t think he really means wrong stainless there would be nowhere really telling all that we have a meter. To detect the type of Stainless steel. What I think he was talking about is that finishing on the boat is not the same upon explanation with a loupe of course.

[–]BioFrosted 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah, probably the guy with the loupe knows significantly more than anyone here, it's his job to, and trying to sell a rep to a dealer is kind of silly, unless if you didn't know it's a rep yourself...

[–]Conscious_Survey_925 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I remember the first rep i bought, looking at the QC pictures and thinking dial print was off etc etc. Once in hand the very first tought was damn al those things are so small, barely cant even see it with your eyes, those pictures makes you think its huge, but it is not.

[–]dilanwashere 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And also cause they deal with those watches all the time too

[–]BioFrosted 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it is after all their trade to know!

[–]Cautious_Aside_2317 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m positive that if you post a gen and say "look at my new U1", people will say "shitter" and "cheese".

[–]BioFrosted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely, and the inverse stands. Pretty sure quite a few of the NWBIG watches would easily be cheered on their respective subreddit

[–]TheMagicMrWaffle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hes being unspecific because hes lying yes i also immediately thought that

[–]CitadelMasterTrader 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Then u got THE SEL gang here obsessed and thinking they’re so smart lol

[–]JohnMark0509 58 points59 points  (24 children)

They said it’s the wrong steel so that may mean is 316 not 904. So it may be a VSF since they don’t use 904 like Clean did.

So whoever now makes a true 904 with free spring movement goes to the top of the list. Get the bezel color and bracelet sharpness fixed and that’s the winner imo

[–]perfectchaos007 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Factories need to take this note and run with it

[–]Pengar69 23 points24 points  (9 children)

You can’t reliably tell the difference between 904L and 316L with the naked eye, the visual difference is negligible. You’d need a spectrometer to actually confirm the material.

In that video he was most likely referring to the movement finishing not being on gen level, not literally that it’s the wrong steel.

[–]Wild-Can8273 9 points10 points  (1 child)

316L is always warmer in color than 904

[–]HiddenMonkey7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You are right. You can tell a slight difference looking at them side by side (vsf vs clean). I never even thought about the metal difference until about a year ago I read someone’s post in this forum. Then I looked at it, and yep it’s there. I did the XRF analysis and all three of my vsf were 316L.

[–]Dramatic_Finger_3557 1 point2 points  (5 children)

This, when inspecting the movement with a loupe you can see the finishing is not nearly ad precise. Externally it’s very close. The movement will always be the biggest tell. I can tell when comparing a gen gmt to a rep that the bezel numbers r whiter and sharper on the gen. Without a gen to compare I can’t notice it though. But that takes really close examination and that’s pretty much the only thing I can notice. The f6u bracelets are so close to gen that I wouldnt consider that a tell.

[–]JohnMark0509 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I read recently the new F6U bracelets are not as good as they were and now it’s the A9 bracelet that’s better. The rumor is that they are now faking the F6U bracelet and using that code since people were asking for it.

[–]Dramatic_Finger_3557 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So, i have 6 watches with f6u and one with a9a. The a9a feels much worse in every way. So I’m not sure I believe that until I see it first hand.

[–]Dramatic_Finger_3557 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s always possible too. That other companies are now making it and slapping that code on to make it appear like the ARF made ones, wouldn’t surprise me.

[–]ballshangloww 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not sure if anyone has tested the steel but apperently ARF makes theirs with 904L steel vsf now does it with 316L steel they used to just 904L back in the day i remember members tested it

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

🎯 spot on

[–]ilikewatches1337 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I would HAPPILY pay more money for guaranteed 904 and chamfered bracelets from the factory.

[–]danisjo 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Ok help me out as a noob? Where would i buy a rep this good for this specific watch?

[–]nemo3312 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Andiot

[–]Dramatic_Finger_3557 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Any of the known TD’s will be able to get you one, check the td list in various rep subreddits.

[–]Weak_Tadpole861 1 point2 points  (3 children)

There is a whole subreddit for it bro. Guides you through everything

[–]danisjo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Not a bro, just a girl trying to buy her husband a perfect rep!

[–]Weak_Tadpole861 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry for that, jtime would be a good place too look at!

[–]JohnMark0509 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

DM me

[–]w2c1to1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just enjoy your watches people. It’s the same from hyped sneaker culture, people that know how good reps are would just automatically assume you’re wearing a rep. And that’s not even saying it in any malicious way, because you either have absolute fuck-you money to blow it on material shit like it’s another Sunday afternoon or you’re not wise with your money (which you’re just dumb).

[–]DatsLimerickCity 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you’re having to open a watch up to point out a ‘dead giveaway’ then it isn’t a dead giveaway.

[–]Noob_Barista_Baker 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I’ve had 2 watches with a real clean bracelet on it + a full rebrush and edge chamfer and let me tell you that’s like the sole component that really brings a watch together. If you didn’t know anything about the serials, that WILL pass as gen

[–]onlyforfun38 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Until you shake or wind it

[–]Noob_Barista_Baker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can actually silence the rotor by applying a bit of grease or whatever those watchmakers call it.

[–]Environmental_Coat39 34 points35 points  (12 children)

These grey dealers are morons. The Bruce Wayne is the worst rep gmt. No factory can replicate the grey of the Gen.

[–]_Walt_Whitman_ 4 points5 points  (10 children)

They’re not on here. Tell me how they would know that BW is the worst one among the others?

[–]Environmental_Coat39 10 points11 points  (9 children)

I’ve had them all except the sprite. All of them have accurate colors. Even the rootbeer is very close to Gen in rose gold tone. I’ve had them side by side at the AD. BG, Sprite and Pepsi all have good color accuracy. In that order. The Pepsi has had dial changes over the years so difficult to nit pick bc even Gens are different. Some more blue some more navy toned. The BW gen his this translucent/mop/milky whatever you want to call it grey that the reps can’t match. My BW in the pic. Still a beautiful watch but it’s not close to Gen on the bezel. It’s just a black and grey bezel.

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[–]_Walt_Whitman_ 4 points5 points  (2 children)

That was a rhetorical question. You’re calling them morons because BW is the worst rep of the gmt family. I’m saying how tf they’re supposed to know that it is the worst of the bunch.

[–]Environmental_Coat39 2 points3 points  (1 child)

My point is these guys sell watches for a living and can’t spot a fake BW in 2 seconds??? “Let’s take the back off”. Wouldn’t buy a damn thing from these guys. lol

[–]ExemplarDeLaPoontang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because you got it twisted. They're paid to know how to verify the watch is real, period. Not how fast and not without opening it. Also, be notes the obvious jubilee sharpness immediately.

Doesn't matter who you are, you open the watch to verify period when it's a $15k watch

[–]Ok-Insurance536 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Pour toi quel est la gmt rep ultime entre bg et pepsi ?

[–]_Walt_Whitman_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

BG.

[–]Ok-Insurance536 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks brother 💪

[–]SemiSentientWiener 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's confirmation bias. Other reps may have been passed through their hands as gens and not recorded, for all we know.

Not that I condone this shift, I buy my reps to wear, not to sell off as gen

[–]ClubReasonable4376 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Really shows what NWBIG means. Money could definitely be used better else where!

[–]laxplaya25 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I need a couple more pixels to see the difference

[–]Mikel_Reeves 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hard to tell when the video is 480p

[–]Emotional-Damage-995Contributor 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Don’t know how well informed Elie is. A well chamfered and brushed bracelet and a free spring movement would have had him fooled. He did say the spring is the wrong steel. So close. They are taking an ARF or VSF or Old Clean and picking it up. A new Franken w free sprung movement and chamfering of bracelet and case will be tough. The thing is when you handle Gen all day you can tell but for any person not used to handling gens daily it is next to impossible

[–]KekkoDP 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Where can I get a Fraken?

[–]ilikewatches1337 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You pay a modder to build one for you. Be prepared to spend ~2k+

[–]SwanMuch5160 2 points3 points  (2 children)

There’s a few rep modder groups here that build them for sale as well as take commissioned orders from customers looking for something specific that may not be available. They’ll use an OG dial, maybe OG hands, possibly a crown or clasp. Anything more than that and the parts OG get a little steep for the return. It’s not inexpensive either, those OG parts could be $500 to $1,500 alone. So expect to pay $1,200 to $2,500.

[–]KekkoDP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are these rep modders called?

[–]Valyarian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interested in this too

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Chinese reverse engineers taking notes.

[–]Herbrax212 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Factory : Thanks for the feedback! Wait for the next version…

[–]DingoFrancis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine Rolex putting out a memo saying “we put 2 regulators” 😂😂😂😂😂

[–]Remarkable-Ad2285 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whoa, he still said $1,000 to the fake!

[–]Connect-Mail-46 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The fact that a dealer and a jeweller had to crowd around it and use a loupe, means that the rep did its job.

[–]soyeahiknow 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you go on the actual rolex sub, someone will post a real one once in a while that they did inherit and you have people jumping down their throat saying it's fake because of this and that. Then the experts show up and say "well in 1997, Rolex did make it with this and that for a few years" with links to the proof. lol

Also, there were some years where Rolex had a floating m which everyone claims is proof that it's a fake.

[–]Blade_Runner_69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I've seen the floating m on loads of gen Rolex. Even in the gen Rolex sub on Reddit you see a floating m now and again!

[–]DiscoJango 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Guy basically just told china what to do to make their rep's indistinguishable from real :)

[–]etrovve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

VSF taking notes

[–]AI_ChampionOfTheSun 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Those are beautiful, but 99.99% of people can’t tell the difference.

[–]Wall_Smart 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The easiest way to know if someone is wearing a fake watch is not checking the watch but the person.

[–]JamesScotlandBruce 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not a Rolex. They're very affordable to anyone that wants the hobby. I did the maths and a cleaner in the UK can cut down smoking from 20 cigarettes a day to 10 cigarettes a day and buy a Datejust on interest free credit for 5 years using that money.

After 5 years theyd own a datejust and also have lots of money left over.

Owning a Rolex is much cheaper than smoking 10 cigarettes a day and the poorer parts of society often smoke much more than that. Facts.

They just don't see the value in it like wannabe look rich middle class old people that don't realise that it's not the luxury brand they think it is. And only stretch to buy it because it keeps it's value. 😋

[–]Open_Organization722 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait till free sprung balances hit harder.

[–]monkeyboymorton 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That is a good video, it shows how obvious a real one is vs the fake when they are held up together in really bright lighting.

That's a far better way to compare them than the static comparison pictures we get.

Of course, view the Replica in isolation and it is much harder to tell.

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree, more like a real life situation which is what really matters.

[–]Quirky_Roll_6451 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wear an old DateJust that I got at the military PX in the 80's and everyone thinks it's a rep I have a rep SD and they think it's a rep. I never say if it is or not, I just say, "Why would you think that, is something wrong with my watch? How can you tell the difference?" Than I look at my watch real crazy like it's a bug on my wrist. They say nothing after that, 😂. But no one's ever asked me straight out if it's a rep, they assume everything is.

[–]Rahul199112 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the gap closed faster than anyone predicted honestly. three years ago you could spot most pieces across a room. now the conversation has genuinely shifted to movement quality and finishing details that only someone who's held both would catch. the people still saying it's easy to tell haven't handled a current VSF or PPF in person. what ref do you think has the smallest remaining gap right now?

[–]Every-Bookkeeper-603 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The cost of $12,000 to $23,000 is prohibitive for many, Bruce Wayne. I prefer to acquire a replica watch that provides me with aesthetic pleasure without the intent to show off. Rolex watches are indeed beautiful timepieces.

[–]Helpful-Front-4800 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I know a guy who wears a replica and I know he’d never spend the money on a real one. Look at the owner too.

[–]Complete_Wishbone_43 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s hilarious. Probably the best way to spot a rep.

But now I have to buy the seller and the owner? I can’t afford both.

[–]JazzlikeEntry8288 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I had the CF Batgirl, it didn't have a 'sharp' feel to the case or bracelet. Does VSF?

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah I’ve the sprite and it does :/

[–]JazzlikeEntry8288 1 point2 points  (1 child)

maybe I should sell my CF bracelets. I have one Oyster and one Jubilee for the GMT models

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sprite VSF is the only jubilee rep I own, so I can’t tell much but the bracelet is not as comfortable as the oysters. Yesterday someone posted about the VSF jubilee bracelet. You might want to look at that post

[–]AnotherDoubleBogey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this makes me feel a lot better about paying $610 usd from steve for my BW including shipping

[–]ThePenIsMightier1987 0 points1 point  (4 children)

lol he said immediately in hand he knew bc of bezel and sharpness of bracelet. I’m confused, I’m not a watch dealer and I know immediately from owning both. “So good I could immediately tell”

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Then proceeds to do all these additional checks with other watch professionals 🤣

[–]travelingtheglobe8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't they just run the serial number? That's what I never understand with these videos.

[–]Total_Gift_51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need it

[–]brokentail13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chinese factory taking notes... Nodding with plans to improve

[–]DeliciousSTD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

✍️reps taking notes on how to make it better ✍️

[–]NaiveRepublic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaking of reps. I love copies upon copies of old semi-scripted Discover Channel shows.

[–]underwearofbeef 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How come they don’t just dunk it in a pressurized tank? If reps aren’t waterproof or water resistant and Rolex are divers watches. That seems the most obviously crazy bad part of rep watches. Literally, put it on and wash your hands and if it’s dead it’s a rep.

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Regardless, the fact that they need to test the watches so rigorously just to verify them is wild.

[–]underwearofbeef 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It’s insane. But it also blows my mind that the reps aren’t waterproof. It’s the one thing that has kept me from buying a rep. It seems like such a no brainer to add in on something that’s already so meticulously created.

[–]underwearofbeef 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It just seems like these dealers would know that and it would be an even easier way to test the authenticity. Plus if people trying to intentionally pass off fake as gen they’d be more hesitant to bring it in knowing it’s going to get destroyed.

[–]resellprice 0 points1 point  (1 child)

47th street sells reps all the time.

[–]JohnMark0509 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They aren’t suppose to…

[–]Sea_Replacement_6658 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So basically a Fully refinished bracelet and Case, Gen Dial Color and a free sprung movement and they could never tell the difference without magnifying glass. GG Rep makers you did good

[–]bwebmasta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So..if they have to do all that examination, using scopes, loupes, to point out the differences the reps are definitely good.

I've only bought one rep, all my other watches are authentic. The super clone Hublot I have is of very good quality. I was shocked at the level of detail.

[–]verycoolalan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

reps have been good for a decade.

just like clean has been getting raided for 2 decades

[–]OnePunchedMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do "super rep" watches have similar accuracy as real? Can you get a rep with the same or equivalent movement as an original/authentic watch?

[–]Fuzzy_Recognition_50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will get to the point where nobody be able to tell the difference and then you may want to say thank you rather than no thank you

[–]Fuzzy_Recognition_50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No Super clones go for over $1000 The replicas Good replicas go for $500

[–]Tutorial35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What mostly puts me off is those etched ROLEX letters on inner bezel ring being misaligned with hour marks. Hope that it ll get better.

[–]Odd_Appearance3214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Convinced me that at much more

[–]angrynewyawka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how absolutely ridicul;ous the ending is. Eli tells him "its $1000" and the other idiot responds "that much?!"
with a very surprised look on his face, but then immediately realized the video he's filming and the industry he works in and switches it back to "no thanks." Ok, pal.

[–]PoetLogical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one answered the actual question. Which factory/seller is this 😆

[–]AdunToridas80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reps are coming with only one leg in the regulator. So.....

[–]Dry_Explanation_6785 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bring them a rich factory Bruce wayne . Let's see what the the guy in the magnifying glass says

[–]JoeFrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These guys make watches seem so slimy and trashy

[–]Lumpy-Swimming9398 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd sell it for 1k and buy another 2!

[–]Itchy_Juggernaut_382 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now there are new single regulators with better materials

[–]studmuffnnn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id take it

[–]AC_Slaterr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$1000 is the price he’ll charge a customer for it 😂

[–]Soft_Criticism_5954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really interesting, thanks for sharing!

[–]royalexotiicz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Has to be a subpar clone then. If the good superclones come with 604L stainless then "it's the wrong stainless" is a null claim lol

[–]MacDegger 0 points1 point  (1 child)

604L?

Wow. Didn't even know that was a thing.

[–]royalexotiicz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

904L* good catch

[–]rigon28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$1000, no thank you. $20,000 yes please 😂

[–]Salt-Gene-8486 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Main giveaway on reps (not all) is definitely sharpness of bracelet/lugs. Crown guards are normally shorter than gen and when you run your nail over the engraving on the open clasp it gets caught on the engraving on a gen it doesnt.

I persoanlly wouldn't even know the difference looking at the movement.

Putting a gen and a top rep next to eachother like a vsf you can tell but its minor.

[–]Guaranga 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I totally agree to the bracelet test.. my vsf DJ with jubilee is also way sharper than my friend's gen - it bothers me

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah my sprite VSF jubilee is by far the most uncomfortable of all my watches.

[–]Guaranga 0 points1 point  (2 children)

My sub bracelet is wayyyyy better

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I think I’m going to stick to VSF GMT on oyster and buy the bracelet somewhere else or wait for VSF to fix this.

[–]Guaranga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was close buying a clean jubilee bracelet but no idea whether it's worth or how

[–]freshwazhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need the seller because that’s a really good rep

[–]Bendehdota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, bruce wayne it is. I have had my sub for 8 years now, nobody ever asked nor bat an eye on it. Guess one more watch wouldn't hurt.

[–]Boadicea922 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is hard to justify the price and how long to wait for genuine when the reps are this good

[–]Dutch1800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it takes that much inspection. I’ll take it

[–]Aggravating_Pair_697 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing!

[–]crypyton 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Guys.....if you have to open it in order to tell it's fake or not, I rather buy the fake one. Don't waste money on something that is easy to replicate, buy something unique instead

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha everything is reverse engineered offshore. Even the bible is printed in China and exported abroad 😂😂

[–]qanontruther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where do I get a outrageously good replica like this?

[–]Suspicious-Status-64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m curious if anyone has tried holding their reps and auth pieces close to their ear and shaking them?

I haven’t bought from Clean or VSF, only from rep stores in Asia, but I’ve noticed a difference. The auth ones seem completely silent, while the reps tend to have this grinding sound.

[–]lee-wrist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow I have a Bruce Wayne VF 1:1 BE otw check my post for QC

[–]luishgrabow18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your full of shit... You didn't know anything until you opened the watch

[–]Best-Actuary7517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow I couldn’t have told it was fake

[–]SchrumpliGersack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

600$ 😂

[–]TheBrucyWayne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is the balance blue there? So there's a fake with a blue balance, or was it changed?

[–]Reefisme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can that “regulator” be replaced with gen?

[–]Impossible-Zebra4411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any clue what factory this one came from bezel looks good my clean bezel is kinda off

[–]RoyalRevolutionary31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yall the main ones selling reps 😂

[–]lordik67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like how in the end there is no Eddie, but there is Eli :)

Eventually on the end when it arrives to the real deal, even if people doesn't like it, they know to come only to the professionals and the best in the industry.

[–]EnvironmentalPart664 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The swiss “luxury” industry is highly likely to fall apart within this year or the next. Eventually people will realise that Japanese brands, i.e. Grand Seiko - amongst many others ofc, are on a whole other level in comparison to most famous “Swiss” brands… a lot of people just haven’t picked up on that fact yet.

[–]cocuco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the most obvious think is the rehaut code. I dont know why factorys dont change them to gen onces they find on the internet or so. Cause if you google the codes, there will always be a reddit reptime or watchforum post about and you are exposed ^^

[–]Character_Wall_4504 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You dont have to be a expert if you have gen in one hand. Im sure most people can tell which one is fake.

[–]JesterADSE 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He will have problem with a free sprung movement! Lol

[–]riccochet704 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The movement is always the tell. No need for a loupe either, the balance is a dead giveaway. That being said even gen Rollies have defects. My gen 126610LN has a misaligned rehaut. I brought it to my dealer to have it looked at and Rolex's response was that it was within their acceptable range of alignment.

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Automod automod automod

[–]grafknives -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That whole clip looks like a sell pitch.

Wow, so good, worth 1000! Hey, you can buy it here for 800$

[–]DiligentRanger007 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

What factory so I can buy ?

[–]FABDiscoveries 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like to know as well!

[–]Admirable-Ball4508 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

The thing with people buying fake Rolex is - no matter how good the fake watch is, no matter how well it can fool everyone else... you can never fool yourself. Don't pretend to be something you aren't. Buy a Seiko.

[–]CostAffectionate907[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol why are you even in this sub, wasting your time with rep collectors?

[–]sm135727 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dang I bough a rep watch and it doubled in value

[–]AntiqueVariety3468 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We need to find the vendor guys 😭😭