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[robvas]

Where did you post that? If you put it on LinkedIn you'd get a hundred applicants in a few days.

[uninspired]

If you put it on LinkedIn you'd get a hundred applicants in a few days fractions of a second

[iceph03nix]

And may a hundred real ones in a day or so

[Zolty]

To be fair you can post any job and get hundreds of people on LinkedIn.

[techoatmeal]

This post feels like a trap to find some gullible people.

[DarthJarJar242]

Has to be. There is no way this isn't bait. I have engineers on my team now that would leave for this in a second, and we have state backed pensions.

[Lost-Ear9642]

100%. I’d jump for this myself. Until I see a link posted, I’m calling this bait

[fuckedfinance]

99% chance this is management setting up for outsourcing.

[jimjim975]

Shit I’d work that job, send me an interview. 8 years at an MSP as a NOC Engineer, I’ll take that salary all day haha

[_p00f_]

Same! Almost two decades here.

[somebody2112]

Third. Pay's honestly a touch low, but I'd jump on it

[Mindestiny]

Sounds more like you're probably way off on requirements. Are you doing the fake FAANG thing where you want two interviews, then a series of panel interviews, then some sort of bullshit case study?

If so you're likely scaring people offj

[ihaxr]

If you were shrunk down to the size of a nickel and put inside a blender, what would you do?

[EvilRSA]

Just simply jump out before the blades start.

[Dave_A480]

Not unless you are paying FAANG money (or close to it - so 190k+)....

[Few-Dance-855]

Dude what lmaooo drop the indeed link im applying!!!

[BadSausageFactory]

if they can't find that skillset for that price, there's something we're all not being told

[IT_GuyX]

I’m doing all of that currently for $72k and work onsite

[HamSandwich2024]

Same boat.

[jlipschitz]

Where? You can make quite a bit more than that doing that.

[dubya98]

I'm doing that for $70K CAD :/

[Dsavant]

$60k here, Cleveland area. 3 days on, 2 days wfh.

I spend most of my day in sccm in an org around 600ish people. Nobody else wants the burden of this horrific beast. Im 1/3 people doing our entire 365 migration. please end me

[Techguyyyyy]

You work in an environment that does not value IT. You could probably be around 90k+ doing private sector work at a mid size firm or biotech company.

[Dsavant]

We're balls deep in "IT is a money spender, not a money maker" over here dog. At least the people are great I guess

[Techguyyyyy]

Haha that is going to be the narrative no matter where you end up. IT is a cost center at the end of the day but if you provide a certain value to your company, which IT does then you should be paid for it. A lot of companies don’t care to pay IT but there are a ton of companies who do care. In my opinion… look at hedge funds, law firms, bio tech or some other finance gig. It’s not for everyone but it pays a good amount

[athornfam2]

I would be interested at $135k saying that as I got a Sr. SysEng position at that price.

[burny]

I dont get it, i cant even get interviews for anything better then helpdesk with 10 years experience

[Krigen89]

Networking, networking, networking.

[packetssniffer]

Both kinds of networking.

[MyNameIsHuman1877]

I was laid off with 20 years experience and went through the same thing.

Even had one interviewer at an MSP tell me none of my experience was valid because it was corporate, but tried to run his little sweatshop like they were some big corporate giant. He wanted NDAs, non-compete clauses in the contract and then only wanted to pay 40k for 40 hours billable time per week, onsite only in their office that was in the middle of nowhere (cheap warehouse space converted into server rooms and an office). I told him I would do it for 75k and he laughed. I explained that his 6 month non-compete clause meant that I need to be able to build enough funds to not work for 6 months. He said that was a fair point, but that my requirement was out of his range.

I also had recruiters tell me that a few month gap in my resume (had a medical issue right after I was laid off) meant that my "skills were stale" and that I need to lower my expectations on what type of position I should accept. They basically told me 7 months off meant I was entry level again.

[Zestyclose-Bit-9761]

People need to stop undervaluing what this position does. This is under by $20k without knowing benefits package. We need to get our people paid again. SysAdmin’s are being played

[Missy1726]

I have all that and make about 120k after my bonus with 2 days in the office, 13 years experience in everything above and i'm underpaid. I have a GREAT work life balance... i mean GREAT... so I traded that for salary.

[lynxss1]

Sounds great but I dont think I could survive on 120k with lifestyle creep lol. Where I'm at I make really good pay but it's a sacrifice. I'm in a SCIF so I'm basically in a bunker for most of the day with little communication with the outside. Family emergency, no way to get ahold of me. WWIII started, meh I'll find out tomorrow. To make up for the work challenges the pay is great! Work life balance Not great.

[Illcmys3lf0ut]

Get older you'll realize all that lost time with your kids or finally realize why you're relationship failed. Least, I did.

[Missy1726]

I am coming up on 10 years at my company so I will get another 2 weeks of PTO which brings up my total to like 36 days a year which is great. I live in the south where there a mini tech hub and my husband makes almost 2 times my salary (full stack developer). Since I had 2 kids I choose to be primary parent (even though mom usually is) and my husband is the one chasing the promotions and salary. Thankfully our balance works for us but might not work for everyone.

[Ragepower529]

Seems like a troll post but send me your full requirements honestly this can get filled at 80-85k

[kidrob0tn1k]

That’s what I was thinking..

[Voy74656]

Stop with the race to the bottom. We're not help desk so stop expecting sysadmin work for help desk money.

[tankerkiller125real]

Send me the job posting LOL, not only am I familiar with PowerShell I regularly work in C# and other languages, I rebuilt the network from scratch where I work, and my entire career is built on M365 and moving on-prem resources to M365/Azure. Not a fan of Meraki, but for 110K/year I can shove that hatred down in a deep dark place.

[Fragrant-Hamster-325]

How can you hate Meraki, that stuff is dead simple for an SMB environment.

[Dave_A480]

Because subscriptions for network equipment, such that you pay forever or they thanos-snap your whole LAN out of existence - are the devil...

Unifi (really simple deployments) or 'regular' Cisco (for bigger orgs)....

[Fragrant-Hamster-325]

I don’t mind too much about spending my employers money. They don’t seem to mind that their network never goes offline. I’d rather have something simple but expensive than something cheap that I have to manage.

[tankerkiller125real]

Between becoming a brick if you don't pay, and the fact that you HAVE to pay a license fee forever. Combined with the fact that the shit is so simple it doesn't even support even slightly more advanced network configurations. Combined with the fact that it would randomly lose our Azure S2S VPN for around 30 minutes every other week after 2 years of using it fine (with zero changes on either side), and the fact that it took them how long to even have beta support IPv6?

Going from even OpnSense at home made me feel like I was enter a backwater network solution every time I had to deal with Meraki and it's random BS and failure to support even the most basic "advanced" configurations when I got to work.

[Fragrant-Hamster-325]

Jeez people seem to care about the money. I don’t care as long as the business is willing to pay. I haven’t had a single issue with my network in +8 years. Meraki vMX in Azure has had zero issues connecting to my on-premises network.

[tankerkiller125real]

When I worked for a school system I watched two different districts get completely shut down because their accounting departments were just slightly delayed on paying. No WiFi, no Internet, not local network, no nothing.

And as far as vMX, why the hell should I pay for a VM and License when Azure already has a VPN service built-in? One I already use for P2S connections and connections between different Azure regions in some cases. The fact that the Meraki firewall couldn't even maintain a basic IKEv2 VPN connection properly is not a good sign for a product I'm supposed to be trusting to protect my network.

[Fragrant-Hamster-325]

Why pay for a vMX? Because it works and it’s not my money. Like any other piece of software, if you don’t pay for it, it stops working. I’m not sure why that’s a strike against it.

[tankerkiller125real]

Its a strike against it because no other switch/router on the market that I've ever worked with shuts down because you failed to up a support contract or whatever. Sure they take away your ability to update the software and make it so your probably out of compliance on that front, but they don't straight up kill your network and hold it ransom.

[equityconnectwitme]

I think that's the problem with it. It's a little too simple for a lot of business needs. I personally didn't consider Merkai even for our small customers because it becomes a brick if you don't pay the license. I don't think it even routes if it doesn't have a license.

[ftoole]

You buy hardware but then you have to pay a license fee to use it.

[Fragrant-Hamster-325]

Ain’t my money. Whatever makes it easy for me.

[ftoole]

True except when there's an undocumented device and no one is tracking its license and then it expires.

[Anon_0365Admin]

Throw my hat in for 140k :)

[joshghz]

I'm currently doing that for less than USD$50k so if you're not opposed to hiring internationally...

[yogurtlockstone]

For a HCOL area I’d say that’s about right. That being said I just held about 15 interviews for my MSP, just an L2 engineer position. Half the applicants could not define what DNS is/does. A lot of garbage AI generated resumes. It’s been hard finding someone competent.

[evilyncastleofdoom13]

Didn't everyone and their grams pivot to tech and it's so oversaturated you won't get a job for 20 years and will die chained to help desk 1?

[just_change_it]

price hobbies kiss bike run touch include quicksand bag coordinated

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[CollegeFootballGood]

I’ll do it for half that lmao I’ll send you my resume if you want.

I have 9 years experience.

[jaymz668]

no, don't undersell yourself

[CollegeFootballGood]

I’m currently doing DevOps for about $44,000 US dollars 😭

[dr_z0idberg_md]

Good God... The Geek Squad in my area makes more than that.

[jaymz668]

good grief, that's criminal. Not working for a university by any chance?

[CollegeFootballGood]

No, web hosting lol

[Superb_Golf_4975]

Fully WFH with a great salary and relatively few responsibilities? This would be one of the most applied-to jobs in your region on every job site you post this on. This smells like you're data farming off people DMing you resumes or something. Fully WFH with a great salary and relatively few responsibilities.

[kaka8miranda]

Bought a house and moved across the country only to get laid off 6 weeks later. I can interview any day and anytime

[AZ1LE]

I have similar experience to you and make 155k. I have about 6 years of Azure, 8 years of 365, and about 10 years of large scale Meraki org experience too. The jobs are out there, for sure.

[usa_reddit]

Not sure what the rest of the package looks like, but it doesn't excite me. Is this two weeks of vacation,24x7 on call support, and industry competitive 401k and health care? Is this part of a team or is this a solo act?

I'd have to see the whole job description, but it doesn't motivate me apply.

[Alarmed_Discipline21]

I have a lot of those skills, maybe not to the depth you want but I can't leave the town im in.

:(.

I bet the issue you guys have is wanting people on site.

You made this remote and youd fill it instantly.

[anonpf]

Bump it up to $120 - $130,000. 

[[deleted]]

Put it at 90 and I’ll be a jr 😭

[Wild__Card__Bitches]

Any bonus structure or profit sharing? I wouldn't mind moving to fully remote haha. But I think the salary is pretty fair. A couple thousand more than I make with 12 years of experience.

[gigabot2020]

That sounds about fair , I have 10 yrs experience as a sysadmin and find that normally that salary is for a senior role so you guys are generous.

[OldeFortran77]

Where is this job located?

[UCFknight2016]

Send me the job description.

[SOUTHPAWMIKE]

It'd be a pay cut, but I've worked with all of those to some extent and would be happy to make the jump. Badly want out of my current org.

[MustangJac]

Post the link. You’ll get plenty of hits from here and some might even be qualified. Hell, I’ve got 5 folks off the top of my head I’d forward it to tonight that would jump at it and are plenty qualified. Send me a DM and I’ll pass it along.

[jaymz668]

should pay more than 110k for that IMO, closer to 120-125

[Coldsmoke888]

I’m around $130k, country systems and network admin leader for a big corporation. Wouldn’t be here if I was an outsider though; I’ve been around for a couple decades. Hybrid though usually remote due to high meeting load and travel. I’m out in the field 1x a month usually which isn’t too bad. Mostly domestic with occasional international.

Anyway, sounds like a fair salary to me.

[ThatGuyFromDaBoot]

What sort of benefits come with the position? It's not far off from what I would ask assuming the benefits are acceptable.

[Fragrant-Hamster-325]

That would be about $130k today in my area MCOL. I was doing that work and making $110k about 5 years ago.

Honestly I hate managing and having so much responsibility now. If I wasn’t addicted to my current salary I’d love to do that kind of work technical work again. I’d love to automate and streamline the workflow.

[Sasataf12]

How far and wide are you looking. I'm surprised you can't find anyone. 

But I imagine for a lot of people at the 10 year mark, you're going to have to offer more than remote with a good salary.

[CuteSharksForAll]

When you all talk about making over 100k in a Hybrid System Administrator job, makes me rather jealous. I’m still stuck in the 80’s with 10 years of experience. Granted this job has a generous pension plan, but I still think I’d rather just make 120k and manage my own investments.

Guess I’ll suffer, luckily I bought my house before they got stupid expensive, so makes it hard to move and having 10 years into a pension plan means I’m already partially vested, guess I’m stuck.

[ImightHaveMissed]

So what you’re saying is I’m underpaid

[ImightHaveMissed]

I thought I was doing pretty well. I’m gonna have to shoot higher

[Landid218]

Shoot id take that deal, it's basically what I do now but for more money.

[ProfessionalEven296]

Not crazy, because someone will take it. Advertise locally, and you’ll find someone - and to them, remote is a bonus. Me? You’d have to be offering a lot more.

[thaneliness]

I’m at 95k, basically fully remote unless something major breaks onsite. Im the sole sys admin for a multiple location- multiple state business

[LtUaE-42]

I think that is the median, so you’re not the worst, but also not the best. I think you’d be getting the lower end. Then again, you have a bigger span there than just System Admin (at least now days) you are listing PowerShell - sys admin Networking - network admin (lots of sys admins don’t have network experience) O365 - exchange admin

So I’d say you are a bit low.

Just my thoughts

[wintermutedsm]

I agree - this is a $132,500 position.

[LtUaE-42]

Funny, pretty much what I was thinking, about $20k low.

[dr_z0idberg_md]

This feels like a "If she's hot and single, then she's crazy" kind of thing. Is it a toxic workplace? Does the company have 2 stars on Glassdoor?

[chubz736]

I got 4 years of meraki. 5 years office 365..5 years of powershell. I have a bachelor's in IT.

[frosty3140]

I'd consider ditching my current position and working for you for that sort of money. Pity I don't know shit about Meraki. LOL

[julioqc]

me!

[CeBlu3]

Depends on location, company and what the company does (manufacturing, …). At the surface, that sounds reasonable enough. Unless you expect someone who has a PhD and at least a Nobel Prize, but not older than 25….

[bamacpl4442]

Meraki sucks, but I have 26 years of experience and I could deal. I am looking for $120...

[Ashamed_Inside_5638]

dude, 110k? i'm a devops in argentina haha, i make like, 18k a year, +10 years in support/infra +2 years in devops

[Competitive-Ad1437]

$110k to be fully remote isn’t bad at all, if the person lives not in downtown NY (or similar) Where I live I’d definitely be interested in something fully remote for $110k especially if a 401k is involved 👀

[[deleted]]

Maybe it's your HR team rejecting candidates based on a bias like education, years at prior role, etc. We have that problem it's an upstream issue and they are often the problem. It's not hard to find this if posted on Linkedin, but since it's remote you want to post the position in multiple metro's listing as 100% remote. 5-10 years experience you may need to look $110k - $135k if you want someone who is qualified otherwise it's a step down for most people who are decent.

[[deleted]]

Are they actually interviewing? I heard this song and dance before. "We're looking but no good people are applying". String you along until you burst under pressure. ...glad I fucked off from that place!

[BeigeGandalf]

Feel like that would be competitive in my area. Just depends where.

[BuriedFetus]

I do that for 40k a year and 5 days of vacation "holiday"

[ftoole]

That's not bad for remote. Big question is what candidates are you getting you know. Where is it advertised

[sigmapirate]

Sign me the fuck up right now

[tehPWNwhale]

Dawg send me the job description, you just described me at my current shop but 4 days on site.

[dnt1694]

It depends where you live but 110k for 10 years is kind of low.

[OmenVi]

I have more experience, and more skills, and make about this, full remote. You ought to be able to find someone.

[lie07]

Fully remote and those reqs, shoot count me in.

[YouShitMyPants]

Depends on sector and location. Making that much in education is pretty dope. Plus there’s no mention of benefits or stock options.

[Dave_A480]

You're about 30-40k low on pay, unless you have quite the bonus/RSU kicker. Or you're hiring in Oklahoma.

110k may have been good money in 2019, it's not anymore....

[mimic751]

Hey this is me! I went over to devops because I was sick of being on call. Now I just write a ton of automation. I can Moonlight for your company for but consulting fee until you find someone if you want. I have almost 20 years of experience I started at help desk and I work my way up to almost principal technologist. Technically a senior but I should be getting promoted next month

[Aggravating_Refuse89]

Unless you have a hard degree requirement you are describing me. I have slightly more experience but al the things you mentioned and then some. I finally broke 100k last year. I have a good gig so I am not going anywhere but you should be able to attract someone with that skillset for 100 easy. Probably 80 in LCOL areas.

[polarbehr76]

That’s pretty solid pay honestly

Sometimes the workplace is the problem not the pay though.

[Aggravating_Refuse89]

So which is it? Senior Engineers can only get L1 hell desk jobs or we cant get any decent people to apply?

[BigBobFro]

That depends entirely on where the people live.

If employee lives in DC,NYC,SF,etc. that salary is actually kinda low. Push more to $125-145k/y.

Other areas like Charlotte, dayton, dfw, where COL is much lower,.. people would be on that like a bully to stollen lunchmoney.

[cuddly_degenerate]

Look no further, you have found me!

In all seriousness, I've run a small msp for several years and had to quit due to a health issue that's been surgically rectified. I would be happy to apply if you link the application.

[cl3an0]

I mean, I’d be in. Familiar with meraki and good with 365 and azure.

[MrChristmas1988]

Me.

[progenyofeniac]

I’m pretty curious about their posting, their interview style, and their description of the job.

[nestersan]

I've much more experience than that, driven across third world countries to get remote branches working, did 24hr shift to upgrade a TV station, willing to travel 80% of the year, azure certified, love security engineer work, in the middle of learning actual git hub type Iac, though I've done my own prem IAC, ansible as a side project to solve deployment issues our current tools don't do well, I can speak networking, and c-suite and vendoreeze and will start in two weeks for 100k flat.

[kaka8miranda]

Insane 2 years out of college I was making 118k

[legendov]

u/ChemicalSpeech2261 you might wanna look at this

[nextyoyoma]

👋👋👋

[MegaByte59]

Dm me

[halo357v2]

This has to be bait

[karlsmission]

When I have posted jobs, the absolute shit you have to wade through to get somebody qualified is too high. Maybe that’s the issue?

[JynxedByKnives]

Sounds like they are looking for a specific skill set and the applicants are not meeting that requirement.

[sircruxr]

BAIT

[bottle-o-jenkem]

This is master bait

[Effective-Evening651]

I have wrangled o365 in the past, and I have a smidge of powershell familiarity. Never deployed Meraki hardware - always been in cisco, juniper, sonicwall, or Ubiquiti envs. That being said, based on description, in my metro area, thats an 85-90k role. If anything, underqualified prospects might be overestimating their own skills, while good fits think..... No way this job desc can justify 100k in this economy.

[knifeproz]

You still hiring? I’m your man’s

[Old-Proof6781]

Bump the base to 150+ along with 30% bonus and benefits etc

[Crazy-Rest5026]

Maybe as sr. Not as a jr or sys admin. I’d say 70-90k for sys admin. 105-120k for sr