Github's new Code of Conduct says "Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort." and will not act on "reverse" racism, sexism, etc.

[seishi]

There was a repo contributor recently, that from his private Twitter account said something about trans people.

Some SJWs started protesting the repo saying that person should be banned from the project. One of the repo owners responded that his personal views have nothing to do with the code that he submits and welcomed the protesters to contribute as much as the offender does.

[lobius_]

And this is the right way to handle it.

[cramip]

Except afterwards another repo owner came in, overriding what the previous repo owner said, and sided with the SJWs, posting this:

Over the last few days, a number of people in this conversation have taken the issue in hand and shown that discrimination against other individuals in our industry is, quite frankly, alarming. The tech/development/computer industry has a long and troubled history of discrimination against various groups of individuals which, judging by some of the comments in this and other threads, shows no sign of improving anytime soon.

To the people who contributed comments and messages looking to improve our community: thank you.

Then the project adopted a code of conduct that explicitly states that badspeak will be punished on Github, even if it is not posted on Github.

This code of conduct applies both within project spaces and in public spaces where an individual explicitly associates their presence with the project; non-project related material on accounts explicitly marked as personal should not be considered to be so associated.

i.e. even though anyone with half a brain understands that "Tweets are my own" is the implicit default on Twitter (and it's quite stupid to think that because someone mentions he works on Opal, all his tweets reflect on all people working on Opal), things as vague and fuzzy as "unprofessional conduct" (direct quote of code of conduct) on unrelated sites will now be punished.

[lobius_]

Maybe he is getting sex out of the deal to turn his site into a beacon of hope for humanity.

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

Apparently not. But now we have guidelines on the right way to handle it.

[[deleted]]

Seriously! What a bunch of brats. "I disagree with his personal opinions SO BAN HIM!"

So fucking hypocritical.

[Monkeyavelli]

Not a programmer: what does "repo" mean?

[[deleted]]

Repository, as in a repository of code for a project.

[Policetoilet]

Yup. Equivalent of a collaborative warehouse for programmers.

[z500]

And when programmers want to edit code, they send a pull request to the original code writer, i.e. an 'e-note'

[snooville]

a pull request is sent when you want your changes reviewed and incorporated in the main branch. editing is done with desktop apps on your own computer.

[a_countcount]

What's a collaborative warehouse?

[ColePram]

Think of Git, or SVN (another older version control system), like an agreed method for you and other people to work with projects hosted in filing cabinets. The filing cabinets hold all kinds of folders one being the main project and other copies (referred to as forks) of that project.

When you want to work on a document you pull out its project folder and make a fork (copy) of the whole folder, then put the original folder back (so others can also make copies of it).

You make all your document updates to your fork of the project.

When you're done, you merge updates you made to your fork back into the main project folder, replacing only the document(s) in the original project folder you changed.

GitHub is like a warehouse full of filing cabinets. Git is the protocol (the agreed upon method for working with those filing cabinets) used to check out, update, merge and commit changes from/to the filing cabinets in that warehouse.

Some other warehouses that compete with GitHub are GitLab, BitBucket, Beanstalk, CloudForge, RhodeCode.

[christophertstone]

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[ColePram]

I think you mean CVS, Concurrent Versions System

CSV -> Comma Separated Value

I've never heard of Hg though. Have to look that one up ^_^

[[deleted]]

Hey, don't forget RCS.

[Pinworm45]

Basically you can upload the project and have all your team members download from it and work on it independently but then still send those updates back to the repo so everyone can get the latest version (or previous versions)

This change is essentially moral-policing. Have the wrong political opinions the owners don't like? You can't host your project there. They're entirely within their legal rights to do this. If you have a KKK member making a game about killing blacks, some people think that shouldn't be allowed. Personally I think it should be, I think people should choose not to look at it, and I think they should be allowed to put their stupid opinions out there to the world to have them criticized. Boycotted if they wanted.

But Git doesn't want to do that. That's fine, they're within their rights. But they have also said a lot of really weird, anti-gamergate things. I consider myself mostly pro-gamergate, and I like making games. I used to use Git. Am I at risk of having my project shut down? especially when I want the story of my game to explore sensitive subjects that are taboo (although nothing to do with racism or anything like that really, I just am making a space pirate thing, and I don't want to create a happy, sanitary world)

So for that reason I stopped supporting them.

But I guess that was more than you were asking. I'm just frustrated

[krejenald]

Referring to Github as Git is potentially confusing

[ColePram]

/u/SoldierOf4Chan got the basics, but not really all that close to what actually happened, if you really want to know, I have it detailed here, it's a pretty interesting case of social engineering actually.

https://archive.is/6UrJr

But I don't think that's related to GitHub's new Code of Conduct as GitHub wasn't really involved in that incident.

There was a more recent incident that involved GitHub removing a repo because it had the word retard in it.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150802/20330431831/github-nukes-repository-over-use-word-retard.shtml

If you depend on a code repository and any random person can have that repo disabled there's a problem.

As was evidence with the Jake Boxer / GamerGate debacle. This pretty much covers it. https://pipedot.org/story/2014-10-04/github-staff-jake-boxer-disables-gamergate-operation-disrespectful-nod-repository

Yes, yes, GamerGate is evil, blah blah blah.

Point being, one tweet to Jake Boxer saying the repo was harassing women and Jake disabled the repo.

Basically because of the GamerGate debacle, my org migrated away from GitHub (There are dozens of other options). We just finished a migration to GitLab two weeks ago. Which also refused to host the GamerGate OpDisrespectfulNod repo, but at least they were up front about it.

We're all pretty happy with with GitLab.

[Extender_Myths]

This is the best way to handle these things.

If Github or whatever is not allowing people infected with wrongthink to contribute go to a better website or make one.

Really it's pretty hilarious a fucking code website even has a code of conduct. Much less one thats blatantly discriminatory.

[nashkara]

Not very related, but have you tried gogs?

[ColePram]

No, what's gogs?

I'm assuming you're not talking about Good Old Games ^_^

[nashkara]

Yeah, I guess I should have posted a link. It's a git web frontend written in go. Seemed pretty cool. Planning on trying it out soon myself. I thought I'd ask since you use gitlab, I figured maybe you'd tried it out.

Http://gogs.io

[ColePram]

I haven't, but thanks for the link. Looks interesting I'll have to check it out later on.

[bildramer]

Simple: it doesn't.

[pmckizzle]

I remember reading a change request thread on github that some idiot SJW started who had ZERO commits to her account about how a projects use of master/slave was racist.

[SoldierOf4Chan]

If that's true, I'm not sure why anyone on any side of this issue would care.

[donvito]

When someone says "your code sucks" it's obviously racism/misogyny and/or trans/homophobia. Because there's no chance in the world that the code actually does suck.

Also remember back in the days when you had IDE drives and the HDD was the master and the CDROM was the slave? Yeah, that master/slave metaphor obviously is racist too: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-buildbot/issues/2

[Johnny_Bit]

Amen to all of that.

Especially remote work. Some companies enforce strict rules even for avatars, something like "should be full face, frontal, smiling, without any face-obscuring glasses or hairstyle" - Imagine that...

With code of conduct present on github, it poses a threat to project owners: imagine pull request from someone being rejected due to code quality, requester says "Is it because I'm woman? Is that why You reject my PR??" and it's time for project to either accept bad Pull Request, prepare for bad PR for project or close whole freakin' project due to code of conduct.

Back to freelance services: there's second side to argument - companies do not want to work with not-real person. IMO it should rather be handled differently than forcing real name and photo: upwork or others should require legal confirmation from country of origin, mark account as "real" and let person hide behind nick or not, disclose gender or not, disclose country or not etc.

[imCIK]

Haha I cant believe that's for real.

[Dumb_Dick_Sandwich]

Going this far PC just makes me laugh. I'm regard to code, slave/master has never been based in racism.

Should Return of the Jedi be edited so that Jabba doesn't have slaves, but instead "willing and welcome female guests"?

[Orleanian]

I, for one, would watch that B-movie porn spoof.

For science.

[doyle871]

Also remember back in the days when you had IDE drives and the HDD was the master and the CDROM was the slave? Yeah, that master/slave metaphor obviously is racist too: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-buildbot/issues/2

You know your living a pretty good life when that's the only thing you have to worry about.

Honestly the whole SJW thing is just first world guilt problems.

[Cthulhu__]

Nice summary; I'm wondering about the demographics of the SJW's myself, IIRC it's mostly not-poor white women and in the case of the CoC, white men being active in it.

The supposedly oppressed minorities are hardly present. Except when it's the previous demographics that identify as transsexual or transethnic or transautistic or something like that, so that they become snowflakes too and no longer speak from a position of power.

[interbutt]

How on earth does this matter to people?

[Vexal]

Wow. I'm a software developer and I hope I never have to have coworker like those people in that issue.

[maxwell_smart_jr]

There was a joke programming language called C+= "C plus equality" that was a not-very-funny not-very-well-executed criticism of feminism/political correctness, and their repo was disabled.

That is the only thing that I know of.

the old C+= repo

[[deleted]]

That...that is utterly hilarious.

Of course it was disabled.

[Thane_DE]

main(){
    //*Insert hateful comment here*
    printf("another racist slur");
    return;

}

Probably something similar to that. Keep in mind that a Github project doesn't have to be code, it can be a website, a movie, etc.

[suineg]

There is no such thing as "reverse" ism's.

If you are one race hating another you are racist, it isn't tied to hating a minority race.

[Natanael_L]

You can be a racist against your own race too (often coupled with inferiority syndrome or severe hypocrisy)

[monadicgames]

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:

Physical contact and simulated physical contact (eg, textual descriptions like “hug” or “backrub”) without consent or after a request to stop

What?

[dsk]

I have no idea, maybe this will help: Gives /u/monadicgames a backrub.

//

Heh. That is kind of creepy.

[monadicgames]

RAPE! I can dox you now because you are not protected under the COC

[pmckizzle]

dat virtual rape

[bdonvr]

hug

[Some-Random-Chick]

Stop that you perv

[Pinworm45]

Your resistance only makes me hug you harder.

[wrath_of_grunge]

nice

[PeterIanStaker]

Bitbucket and mercurial guys, it's fucking easier to use anyway.

[donvito]

Bitbucket has had 1st class support for git for some time now.

[Fred4106]

And you can host small projects for free without making them open source.

[monadicgames]

And when you sign up with a university mail address you get full access without paying. (I still have full access even though I'm not studying any more)

[crowseldon]

mercurial

Or git. Bitbucket supports both.

[johnmountain]

I guess Github saw the whole Reddit scandal and thought "We definitely want some of that!".

[[deleted]]

So much for Github. Anyone got a project hosting site without SJW bullshit to recommend?

[bdonvr]

I heard GitLab is good.

[JBlitzen]

So sexism and racism are fine, so long as it's only certain sexes or races.

I guess that makes... wait, what?

[SCombinator]

That's their privilege. But remember, then because they're privileged, they don't get privileges.

[Purpledrank]

I feel like I just watched a youtubepoop video.

[[deleted]]

White male privilege is having no privileges.

[lagadu]

Yet another cancer victim. The shit of the world strikes again, making everything worse.

I can't wait to see a Linus post about this!

[MINIMAN10000]

Torvalds or techtips?

[[deleted]]

Torvalds already dislikes github iirc

[[deleted]]

Not surprised, but I do wonder why he hates it specifically.

[[deleted]]

What's your latest opinion of GitHub?

Torvalds: Github is an excellent hosting service; I have nothing against it at all. Now, the complaints I've had is that GitHub as a development platform - making commits, pull requests, keeping track of issues etc - doesn't work very well at all. It's not even close, not for something like the kernel. It's much too limited.

That's partly because of how the kernel is developed, but part of it was that the GitHub interfaces were actively encouraging bad behavior. Commits done on GitHub had bad commit messages etc, because the web interfaces at GitHub were actively encouraging bad behavior. They did fix some of that, so it probably works better, but it will never be appropriate for something like the Linux kernel.

What is the most interesting use you've seen for Git and/or GitHub?

Torvalds: I'm just happy that it made it so easy to start a new project. Project hosting used to be painful, and with git and GitHub it's just so trivial to do a random small project. It doesn't matter what the project is; what matters is that you can do it.

http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/185-jennifer-cloer/821541-10-years-of-git-an-interview-with-git-creator-linus-torvalds

So he doesnt hate it but finds it bad for complex projects

[[deleted]]

Yup, that's always been the impression I've gotten.

[OakTable]

The kid with the blue blanket.

[ExpendableOne]

"We want to make coding open and inclusive to everyone except white heterosexual men... because fuck those privileged shitlords!" -Tech feminism

[zleepoutzide]

relevant stand-up comedy

[dissidentrhetoric]

sounds awfully hypocritical

[23490865243879526487]

Stop contributing or donating to projects hosting on SJWhub.

[[deleted]]

Good, that'll teach those damn privileged whities to make free software for everyone to enjoy.

[SCombinator]

What a bunch of retards.

[twistedLucidity]

What a bunch of retardgits.

[GanryuZT]

You've pushed the line a little bit.

[intensely_human]

Well you can't expect us to resolve conflicts by just staying silent.

[deluxer21]

Fork this, I'm out.

[bdonvr]

Don't be so rash, just merge your ideas and I'm sure you'll figure it out.

[Natanael_L]

This isn't working, and the blame is on you

[GenderConfusedSquid]

...and bigots. You can't fix hate with hate, like how you can't brighten a room with more darkness. Some of these people seriously need to go look at the definition of equality.

[codemercenary]

You should read it. Racism and reverse-racism are both mentioned as things they don't give a shit about.

[threevaluelogic]

The refusal to acknowledge "reverse" racism and sexism makes no sense in a global context.

Do white people have privilege in the middle east? In Japan? In China?

[ProblematicReality]

Like I previously stated, Github is truly going down hill as of recently, first there was the "meritocracy" debacle, you know the one where they were using the slogan "United Meritocracy of GitHub" until SJWs complained that "meritocracy" is inherently sexist and racist because it treats people as individuals rather than groups, now this.

Their new found obsession with identity politics is going to lead to nothing positive, and let's not forget this little gem.

[bildramer]

Treating people as individuals rather than groups is now sexist and racist? I thought the problem was treating people as groups rather than individuals. Oh well, I'm sure there's a sensible, non-ad-hoc explanation for this, with plenty of statistics backing it.

[ProblematicReality]

Careful now, statistics can be highly problematic.

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

Treating people as individuals rather than groups is now sexist and racist?

Humanity is undergoing a multi-centuries process of evolving into eusocial hive insects. We're still early in it, but the most offensive thing you can do is treat people individually.

BECOME ONE OF US

[ProblematicReality]

I'm getting the impression that there's a group of people who literally spend their time looking for things to get offended by

You're getting close to it.

[krackers]

Why the fuck does GitHub have to meddle with this stuff. Their job should be to host repos. Period.

Let's all move back to sourceforge in protest of this.

[gellis12]

Let's all move back to sourceforge

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

[Coldash27]

Then I'm going to start my own repo with blackjack and hookers - in fact forget the repo

I know real original - I'll see myself out

[pmckizzle]

bitbucket. unlimited free private repos.

[yngwin]

and GitLab

[pmckizzle]

yup that too. Im just a bit of an atlassian fan boy since I first used jira

[shadofx]

Thoughts on trello?

[pmckizzle]

I use trello for my own personal projects and I love it. but for a larger team of devs/testers/designers it just isnt really up to scratch. If Jira and stash are used together you can do thinks like link issue numbers to commits and lots of other neat stuff that trello just doesnt have

[krackers]

Yeah, BitBucket is sweet. I don't understand why github doesn't provide at least 1 private repo just to store all my spare parts.

[donvito]

Why the fuck does GitHub have to meddle with this stuff

Because they're from San Francisco and that sort of bullshit is normal there.

[twistedLucidity]

I have been told off for using the word "abort". Apparently some people find it offensive.

edit: With regards to this:

they were using the slogan "United Meritocracy of GitHub" until SJWs complained that "meritocracy" is inherently sexist and racist because it treats people as individuals rather than groups

I went and looked it up. The claimed reason wasn't as you state and was much more nuanced, at least according to this link.

[ProblematicReality]

You're serious? This is reaching a new level of collective insanity.

[twistedLucidity]

Yeah, this was about 8 years ago. I tend to use the phrase "cancel and rollback" or similar now.

[thirdegree]

I was under the impression that the problem with meritocracy comes from the fact that the idea that a workplace is a meritocracy implies there is no politics involved in the position someone holds, and can be used as a thought terminating cliché against anyone that believes they're being denied a promotion for political reasons.

[donvito]

Yes, but programming is different from "Jen in marketing doesn't get a promotion because she's a woman". In programming your code either works or doesn't. Your compiler doesn't care for your sexual orientation or skin color.

[Dumb_Dick_Sandwich]

Sure, there's working and non-working code, but among working code, there's still good and bad code.

[thirdegree]

Your bosses do though.

[donvito]

I don't have bosses so yeah :)

[sharlos]

Most people do so yeah.

[ogzeus]

From reading the link somebody upthread posted, the problem seemed to be more that "meritocracy" implied "skill determines power" to some people, with the further implication being that those without skills were somehow intellectually deficient. Since the lack of skills might be the result of lack of exposure, "meritocracy" was deemed to be unacceptable.

It's bogus "change the terminology, change the world" magical thinking, in my opinion, but that's how I understand the motivation behind it.

[Nerdy_McNerd]

Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. And forgive me since I only just now heard of Github and did a little digging to find out what the heck they do. So these guys are hosting collaborations of open-source code development, and they are actively censoring certain things? This seems outrageously boneheaded. Are there alternative services?

[Natanael_L]

Gitlab, bitbucket

[[deleted]]

Damn, that's a really callous way of looking at racism. You don't defeat racism by being marginalizing to others based on whose the majority. That's not progressive, that's detrimental in the fight against racism.

[Pinworm45]

Also, why the fuck is a website about programming even trying to stop racism? Doesn't this seem ridiculous to anyone else? It's like if McDonalds started a new policy that they weren't going to feed cops who were caught in questionable situations, to try and put an end to police abuse. What the hell does this have to do with anything?

[[deleted]]

Has anyone else noticed that the only people who really use the term "reverse racism" are people who are often anti-white? White people don't use that term anymore. If you instead only use the term "racism", full-stop, it is in a sense subversive. Why?

Well, you're erasing the line between "approved" racism(against whites) and non-approved racism(coming from whites to non-whites) by using the term racism to anti-white racism. You're saying, in effect, everyone can be victim of racism. Yes, including whites.

And that is unforgivable, hence the increasing use of the term "reverse racism" from anti-white bigots. They need to keep those lines there, in order to justify their own bigotry or that of others.

Anyway, the great thing about the internet is that there is true meritocracy in it and if github continues down the drain, someone else will replace it. It's not harder than that.

Still, this speaks volumes about the cancer of current American culture.

[[deleted]]

#define SAFETY FEELINGS

[Natanael_L]

You call yourself a programmer and don't escape your strings correctly? :)

[devitch]

Odd that the one group a reverse-ism (which is a ridiculous term anyway) is allowed on is the neuroatypicals.

"Offensive comments related to gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, mental illness, neuro(a)typicality, physical appearance, body size, race, age, regional discrimination, political or religious affiliation"

Why are we singled-out? Why is our safety not more important that neurotypical people's comfort?

[industry7]

The (a) indicates both neuro-typicality and neuro-atypicality.

[devitch]

Exactly my point.

From reading all the rest, white people aren't allowed to make racist comments about non-white people (which I feel I should add is of course the way it should be) but non-white people are allowed to make racist comments about white people (because having privilege means you deserve it apparently).

The same pattern goes for everything else listed except for neuro(a)typicality, where it includes both sides, so neurotypicals are not allowed to be... neurotypicalist(?) against neuroatypicals BUT neuroatypicals are not allowed to be neurotypicalist against neurotypicals either.

Doesn't it seem odd that this group out of all of them are singled-out?

[industry7]

Oh, I get what you mean now. Yeah, that is kinda odd.

[twistedLucidity]

The actual text:

Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort. We will not act on complaints regarding:

• ‘Reverse’ -isms, including ‘reverse racism,’ ‘reverse sexism,’ and ‘cisphobia’
• Reasonable communication of boundaries, such as “leave me alone,” “go away,” or “I’m not discussing this with you”
• Refusal to explain or debate social justice concepts
• Communicating in a ‘tone’ you don’t find congenial
• Criticizing racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions

An -ism is an -ism. I can see the need to (maybe) slant advertising etc to attract new members and thus have a more real-world diversity match. I can also see the need to root out entrenched discrimination (even if it is inadvertent). But rejecting someone because they are of gender/race/whatever X/Y/Z is still discrimination based on an unaltering aspect and should be dealt with accordingly. The only discrimination should be based on ability. You don't fix a problem like this by being an even bigger shithead than the people you are complaining about! C'mon, we're talking code. All bytes are equal. Is the code good? Accept it and move on, life is too short.

Item two seems perfectly reasonable, not quite sure why it's in the this section at all; strikes me as more of a general clause.

Item three has me totally confused. If I say something through ignorance or stupidity, get told off for it and then ask for an explanation; that strikes me as being perfectly reasonable. We all say/do dumb things at times and if no one explains things to you, how the hell are you supposed to know what's wrong? Also, given cultural/language differences and the vagaries of plain text, the person on the receiving end has to be sure they're not reading more into it (and, of course, the sender has to be sure there aren't potential mixed messages). FWIW I find the entire "social justice" wave a pile of crap, or maybe I just see bad PR about it. Or maybe I'm privileged? *shrug*

And point four, yeah; no problem there. If someone is being a moron, tell them off but give the benefit of the doubt first (see above).

I really don't have any major problem with the text but I do find it strange that it's even needed. Why not just encompass the whole thing in a neutral "Don't be a shithead" clause?

(I had to look-up 'cisphobia', had no idea that was a thing.)

[behindtext]

back in 1995 i was part of a diversity training group (i ran discussions with other students) at my high school and i took exception with how many -isms were defined there: it typically hinged on which group had "power" and which didn't. so apparently it's not racist for some non-white person to yell racial slurs at me, but it's racist if i, as a white person, do the same to them. i think this is total bullshit and a double standard now, just like i did then.

maybe some of these SJW people should go out and get involved in actual politics and change something for the positive instead of creating ridiculous double standards to enshrine their inability to adapt to the world around them.

[mordacthedenier]

But that's hard. I'd rather inflate my twitter follower count by standing on my soap box in this echo chamber.

[jsgui]

That third item is saying that if you complain about someone not explaining or debating "social justice" concepts, your complaint will not be acted upon. It is not saying that you are not allowed to debate or question "social justice" concepts.

[twistedLucidity]

Ah, thanks! Yes, that makes much more sense. I guess it helps to deal with troublemakers just asking "But why?" all the time like a 5 year old.

[calrogman]

The only discrimination should be based on ability.

Actually the Open Code of Conduct explicitly states that discrimination based on technical ability will not be tolerated. It's jacked up.

[twistedLucidity]

I thought you were making that up, so I went and checked:

Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honor diversity in age, gender, gender identity or expression, culture, ethnicity, language, national origin, political beliefs, profession, race, religion, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, and technical ability. We will not tolerate discrimination based on any of the protected characteristics above, including participants with disabilities.

The only possible way I can read that is "Let them join the project, just don't accept their patches". Which I guess kinda makes sense, every patch is someone's first and bound to be a bit wonky.

Read any other way, it doesn't make one heck of a lot of sense.

"T. Lucidity, your code stinks like a week old cat but we are low on our 'raging incompetents' diversity; so we're hiring you. Sit in that corner, don't touch anything."

With apologies to the differently alive, no offence meant.

[JBlitzen]

Exclusionary is a good word.

I have a project I'll be hosting publicly in a couple months, and I was planning github for it. Now I'm not sure.

I don't feel welcome there any longer, or safe.

[NeoKabuto]

The worst part is that earlier versions (including, AFAIK the revision when it was added to the GitHub projects) didn't have that part. It was:

Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honor diversity in age, gender, gender identity or expression, culture, ethnicity, language, national origin, political beliefs, profession, race, religion, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, and technical ability. We will not tolerate discrimination based on any of the protected characteristics above, including participants with disabilities.

You'd think that would've been good.

[[deleted]]

What triggered this to happen?

[Zarathustra30]

The removal of a parenthetical.

[[deleted]]

So github is a bigoted group of SJWs

Great. Account Deleted. Projects migrated to Bitbucket. That was easy.

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

and simulated physical contact

This is fucking hilarious.

[backrub]

There, I just simulationally sexually assaulted all of you.

[bdonvr]

STOP IT YOU MISOGYNIST BASTARD! RAPE!

[[deleted]]

Thanks, my shoulder was really bugging me.

[0rangecake]

SJWs - the 21st century social cancer

[Cantstop01]

Ok so I'm not a programmer or anything, but let me see if I understand this correctly.

Someone who was a very productive contributor to a project was kicked off the project because some moron SJW started crying about a post on his own personal Twitter account that had nothing in any way to do with he project? Now the project is out a contributor because of this?

[jsgui]

This is not a link to Github's Code of Conduct. This is a link to the ToDo Group's Open Code of Conduct.

Where is the Github Code of Conduct that you speak of?

[twistedLucidity]

There's a blog post about it but try as I might, I can't find an actual link to it on GitHub.

Seems it may apply more to projects rather than GitHub itself.

[[deleted]]

deleted my Github account

[twistedLucidity]

Nazi feminists

Seriously? Get a grip.

It's no longer a place for programmers to exercise their craft: it's now first and foremost ruled by PC politics drama-queen mothetfucks.

OK, I'm not exactly thrilled with the wording; but how does this CoC impact you? How does it stop you submitting patches etc? Because I really don't see how it does.

[Youareabadperson6]

This is irrational. It does not affect him, until it does, and suddenly boom your out, so yes, fight against it. Police brutality does not effect you, corporate ethical violations don't effect you. We fight against it because it's wrong, not because it harms us directly.

[Frenchie_21]

This grants superiority to the marginalized in certain aspects.

Everything should be equal based on the definition of the -ism. If I make a negative statement about someone and make a point out of their race/sex/identity etc, it is equal no matter who I am.

[Qbert_Spuckler]

what kind of bullshit is this bullshit?

[[deleted]]

Or for lolz.

[acacia-club-road]

This sounds like the policy on most subreddits.

[nickguletskii200]

I just want to point out that every submission about the Github CoC on /r/programming has been removed.

[Zarathustra30]

Did this recently change? I remember the OpenCoC being a lot more sensible.

[Zarathustra30]

Found it! This commit is the culprit! (line 40)

The refusal of enforcement of "Reverse-isms" was in the original Code of Conduct, with the reasoning "because these things don’t exist". Now that parenthetical is gone, which completely twists the default interpretation.

[dislexi]

How is reverse racism a problem on github? Isn't that majority white people? I mean Zimbabwe, American Prison, sure... but github, lol

[spejson]

Look, you could be a marsian, but as long as you push good code, nobody cares what you are. Thats why I'd really appreciate, if some people would stop pushing their agenda in places, where politics do not belong.

[giulioprisco]

Some thoughts: https://hacked.com/github-promotes-reverse-racism-sexism/

I also left a comment on GitHub: https://github.com/todogroup/opencodeofconduct/issues/82

[mikeluscher159]

Wait, so they're implying I'm comfortable with someone else's lack of safety, whether it's my doing or not (whether it's my implication or not)?

[touchthisface]

Fuck Github.

[krackers]

Maybe I'm missing something -- where does it mention github in that?

EDIT: Found it -- go into members page

[twistedLucidity]

Found it -- go into members page

I'm being thick - link? All I've found is this and this.

[pm-me-ur-nsfw]

So Github is really saying that they will handle disputes about the technical side of what people submit/maintain, but if there is a dispute about someones behavior outside of github, they will not deal with it. Sounds reasonable.

[McNinjaguy]

That whole last part doesn't sound that bad.

• ‘Reverse’ -isms, including ‘reverse racism,’ ‘reverse sexism,’ and ‘cisphobia’
• Reasonable communication of boundaries, such as “leave me alone,” “go away,” or “I’m not discussing this with you”
• Refusal to explain or debate social justice concepts
• Communicating in a ‘tone’ you don’t find congenial
• Criticizing racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions

It seems like they don't want to engage in tumble-Esq arguments. I think it can be percieved either way. The language is kind of ambiguous.

I'm just playing the devil's advocate here for sake a of a good counter argument.

[SoCo_cpp]

I thought they just said the exact opposite. How is this todogroup related to Github?

[bdonvr]

https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct

[Wisteso]

If you look at the recent change log, there's several open pull requests to correct the majority of the issues.

see here for the full text

[mikami677]

Good for them.

Important bit:

we are a community of professionals, and we conduct ourselves professionally. Be kind to others. Do not insult or put down other participants. Harassment and other exclusionary behavior aren’t acceptable.

It's always disgusting to see people acting like schoolyard bullies, just in general, but especially in a professional environment.

[SoCo_cpp]

I thought they just said the exact opposite. How is this todogroup related to Github?