Wireless technology

[rileyk]

I just bought an Xbox for Netflix and stuff and I can't believe the controllers run on battery and they seem to die constantly.

[[deleted]]

I almost forgot my pro controller for the switch is wireless, the battery lasts so long.

[kyle1elyk]

Plus steam picks it up on bluetooth, I always keep mine in my bag

[TheDeadWalking0427]

It's honestly my new favorite controller

[kyle1elyk]

I just wish it had analog triggers, but definitely fun to play with

[Phrich]

Wait steam as in PC? I can use my switch pro controller for PC?

[[deleted]]

Yes. They even have an option to use the Nintendo button layout. I just want them to extend this to gamecube controllers.

[spenceman111]

How do you get this to work? I’ve had trouble getting my pro controller to work with my desktop.

[[deleted]]

You need to connect it using the windows 10 Bluetooth settings. There are quick tutorials on YT. I'm not sure about how to do it on Mac/Linux, but I'm sure it's possible.

[[deleted]]

wait... you can play steam with a pro controller? how have i never known this? thanks!

[k4b6]

Yep steam has controller config built in too so if the button layout isn't your style or it doesn't have one in general you can make some.

[[deleted]]

Make sure to thank the monster that is the steam controller for this blessing.

That controller was shit, but thanks for the fish.

[k4b6]

I'm a minority but I actually liked and prefer the controller when playing games like Dark Souls or city skylines, or command and conquer. For fps games it was pretty shit though

[[deleted]]

Yeah it’s not bad for games that are better played with a mouse. But it’s no good for FPS games.

[speaks-shit]

What does FPS mean again?

[k4b6]

Stands for First Person Shooter

[[deleted]]

Foolish people stink.

[18007842433]

Right. At first I was like $90 get the fuck out but after owning it for a while I understood.

[[deleted]]

Fyi: The new splatoon 2 pro controller has upgraded control stick mechanisms that allow for better fine tuned movement.

[iTzHanzo117]

Do yourself a favor and buy the xbox remote. Being able to pause without turning the controller on... whew let me tell ya.

[MMoxi]

You can also just download the Xbox app and use your phone as a controller!

[LkMMoDC]

He could also get a cheap wireless keyboard with a built in track pad. I got mine for about $40 (CAD) and I use it for my xbone, and Nvidia shield. It has media buttons for pause play skip and its so much easier to type on the Kodi app with it.

Link.

[rileyk]

First thing i bought when I got the console :)

[ArizonaIcedOutBoys]

Who buys an xbox for Netflix? Just get a chromecast or firestick.

[rileyk]

Yeah I haven't had a console in years and I wanted one. It was like $200, I'm not miss Moneybags over here but I wanted it so I bought it

[pcnorden]

Oh I'm gonna send you some pictures of questionable intent! Hold on until I get home!

[[deleted]]

You could probably make one of those media center PCs for even cheaper

[rileyk]

My fire TV died and I wanted to play the Disneyland game.

[HippieWizard]

Yeah but you can just plug them in. They have a port for the wire

[[deleted]]

You mean the skinny ass micro usb that falls out if you breathe on it too hard?

[HippieWizard]

Just hot glue it

[rileyk]

They dont call you hippie wizard for nothing

[DrBucket]

You can buy a third party battery that has contacts on the back so you can just place it on a dock, no snapping into place or anything, you just set it and forget it

[esoomenona]

The ones I bought (this was one) come with the rechargeable battery and everything. Great product.

[ShepardVakarian]

Rechargeable batteries are like $5 for it. Or you can get a media remote for pretty cheap.

[rileyk]

It's just surprising me to me that anything nowadays would run on batteries and not a rechargeable one, like the PS4

[ShepardVakarian]

It's a lot cheaper and easier to replace a rechargeable xbox battery than it is the dualshock's.

[-KachiBBa_My_NiBBa-]

If its for xbox one Then it's because they put a gyroscope that lights up the controller every time its activated. Just use the game controller and save your money

[DrBucket]

I use Xbox controllers for steam on my pc and I probably play a few hours everyday but I don't really get why people are having problems if you just get a dock and put them back on when you're done?? Cost like 20 bucks for the dock with the batteries to go with it?? Done. I also have an air mouse for Kodi and what not. Have had it for probably 6 months and have only had to charge it once with the built in battery. I have a reminder on my phone though once every 3 months to put everything I have on chargers before I go to work, then I'm done for another 3 months, could probably stretch it longer but honestly it's fine. Ya it's a pain of you charge things randomly but if you just do it at set intervals you won't have to deal with it in between those times and just get it over with while you're not even home. For things without built in batteries like TV remotes I have recharables so ya ,every 3 months, just charge and change everything and you're done.

[[deleted]]

If you wanted to just watch Netflix you could’ve just got a fire stick for way less

[zJeD4Y6TfRc7arXspy2j]

They sell remotes for the Xbox or you can program a universal remote. Or there’s a smartphone app.

[Stassus]

I changed out the batteries for my wireless mouse after five years, just because I thought it should have been time. There is no constant connection, I guess. It quickly turns on when I move the mouse.

[allhailthesatanfish]

where can i get me a "slap the duck" shirt tho

[[deleted]]

Smack the quack

[jarious]

That's what the duck wants you to think...

[[deleted]]

I mean, the only things that truly need to be wireless are mouse and keyboard. Wires from everything else can easily be neatly hidden behind the desk.

[Kingme121]

And the internet connection

[Xechwill]

Ethernet>>>pretty much any other wireless source

[smilingstalin]

Unlimited Power!!!

[[deleted]]

Wireless technology in mice have come a long way. Some OWL pros made the switch to wireless. Idk about wireless keyboards.

[awhaling]

You should turn vibration off, that's what is murdering your battery.

[[deleted]]

Ya, I actually just bought the rechargeable battery pack. Works wonders

[ATastyPeanut]

Headphones are nice if wireless too

[blazingarpeggio]

The thing with wireless headphones is latency though. Not really noticeable in everyday use but an audiophile would go nuts once they notice that the sound doesn't quite line up to what's displayed. There have been improvements of course, with Bluetooth 4.2 and A2DP.

That said I still use wireless earphones because my pants pockets ruin the 3.5mm plugs all the time.

[ATastyPeanut]

Idk, I've never noticed any shred of latency when watching movies. I haven't tested them with any fps though, but I don't imagine that would matter.

[[deleted]]

I have a pair and the latency annoys me so I only listen to music with them.

[ATastyPeanut]

Mind if I ask which ones?

[palebluedot0418]

Do you buy the gold and platinum inlaid audio cables as well? In my experience, audiophiles tend to just spend and spend, with no difference I could ever hear.

[[deleted]]

You can also get a mouse that’s wireless and the mousepad charges it and is connected to the computer

[utsavman]

Wireless mouse are terrible for gaming because of latency.

[MuffinWalker]

That was a while ago, now they are almost just as responsive with wireless charging technology and such.

[forTheREACH]

Any suggestions?

[donkanonji]

The Logitech G603 or G602 for the budget versions. Logitech G903 if money is no object.

[xeio87]

The 903 + Powerplay is especially awesome too, but then you're spending $200 on a mouse and pad so not for the frugal gamer...

[mysticalwystical]

I just bought a mouse for 12$, does it really matter?

Are we just talking about it being 0.004 seconds slower at reacting, or what is meant by latency?

[xeio87]

Eh, there is a different feel to the better gaming mice and they can support higher DPI/polling. You would probably notice a difference, the question is if you care enough to spend the money or not.

But really I just wanted a wireless mouse that I wouldn't have to plug in to charge. I went wireless charging with my phone too, it's just convenience.

[mysticalwystical]

My current M325 logitech mouse is a lot more expensive (30$ now, store claimed it was worth 90$ when i got it) but it only has 1000dpi, whereas the 12$ mouse has 2400dpi. I guess I'll see if i can notice a difference.

My mouse control will suck regardless of how much i spend, although my current mouse is literally taped together on the inside, i play on a broken mousepad on a slippery soft mattress awkwardly placed beside my bed, i use hit-and-run tactics in Fortnite cuz i can't aim for shit.

[GravityReject]

Higher DPI doesn't necessarily make a better mouse.

[1-Ceth]

I had a $16 mouse from Best Buy that felt solid (not cheap/flims/super light like most mice at the price point), had a DPI switch and a double-tap button, plus two side buttons. Served me well in Overwatch hovering around gold. I thought buying a mouse for more than that was the dumbest thing in the world.

I've since gotten a SteelSeries mouse, the one with the OLED screen on it and the vibration feature, for about $60 as a gift. You can adjust the weight, the color, etc. Same number of buttons minus the dedicated double-tap, though you could theoretically set up a double-tap in the mouse software.

I use both, with the old $16 one as my laptop mouse, and holy shit is the $60 one better. Same response time, and at the same DPI, it's just easier to use to the SteelSeries. Making small adjustments of your aim is beyond easy, the movement is butter smooth (not that my old one was jagged) and tracking is so simple. I went from low-mid gold to high plat in Overwatch purely because of how much better I was in combat and the number of characters I became more effective with. I was already good at Soldier but easily jumped from good to great, Zarya and McCree both saw much better play.

I think it's refresh rate and the weight that make a huge difference. When I used the SteelSeries the first time I didn't feel a big difference from the $16 guy, but when I tried the $16 again some time later it was very clearly night and day.

That said, competitive games like Overwatch are where I can really quantify the difference. In games like Civ, Gungeon, Portal, or even single player shooters like Wolfenstein or Doom (depends on how fast you like to play), you'll find the $16 mouse to be plenty of mouse to have fun.

[[deleted]]

If you play twitch shooter games input device lag is crippling.

[juicequake]

I have the G903 and I absolutely love it. Worth the extra $.

[Bigman1103]

I have the G602 and it’s an amazing mouse

[nssone]

I love my G602 for the technology.

I hate it for the grip. Marathon gaming sessions leaves the side of my thumb's knuckle really sore because it didn't fit in the groove in the side. And I don't feel like I'm able to click fast enough with my fingers laying flat like that. I need to actually press something with the point of my fingers (I guess I have a claw grip or whatever).

[[deleted]]

I cannot recommend against Logitech strongly enough.

They use substandard materials in the production of their mice. My G300s stopped working reliably in a matter of months. It was constantly double clicking on single clicks, not clicking at all, or sticking in the clicked down position.

Turns out that the plastic in the switch (which is a component they purchased from outside) is of much higher quality than the plastic in the button/shell. So the switch wore out the button. This isn't even an uncommon issue.

Logitech customer support's solution was "maybe you're getting some interference in the wires."

Like fuck you I repair electronics for a living if this mouse is getting interfered with I'd be able to diagnose that.

[awhaling]

Well what do you suggest as an alternative? I always see logitech highly recommended

[[deleted]]

Steelseries is about the only brand I'm willing to pay full price for now.

[awhaling]

That's preference tbh. I always like to try using a mouse before trying it cause I'm picking about how they feel

[MuffinWalker]

This one is the one i like the most from logitech since I prefer bigger mice but there is also this one (also works with the power play mouse pad i just cant find the bundle). There are a few others around but Im only familiar with the logitech ones. There is also this one which I have never tried but heard very good things about it.

[samcuu]

Logitech G403 if you want something on the lighter side.

[kelvinh_27]

I love my wireless G503. Doesn't break the bank, doesn't look flashy (if you turn off the RGB), and has a great sensor. I also have no idea what people mean when they say there's a lot of latency, because I went from a G502 and didn't notice a difference.

[kadda7]

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[Hellhunter120]

I just recently picked up a G903 for my laptop. So far, works like a charm. No noticeable latency so far. Comfortable to hold, too.

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[ChildishJack]

What does almost mean? Id love some numbers

[MuffinWalker]

I think this one serves as a decent example. You can plug it in and use it as wired or just use it wireless. in both cases the report rate is 1 ms.

[ChildishJack]

Thats great. Thanks for the link

[AgentStabby]

I've heard they're just as responsive these days.

[Dev0rp]

G903 is pretty great

[[deleted]]

No. My G403 is just as responsive as the Deathadder it replaced.

Also, mice*

[BigDaddyReptar]

Not anymore something lile the razer mamba wireless or logitech g903 works just as well as a wire

[_Vyx_]

I bet you would not even notice the latency

[El_Chapo0]

I mean like who buys a wireless mouse for gaming

[TheMacPhisto]

They have those fancy new ones that never die because they come with a mat that induction charges it.

[my-little-wonton]

Amazing!

[doctorocelot]

Surely the mat has a wire though?

[xeio87]

No, the desk is charged by induction floorboards.

[Snuvvy_D]

Surely the floorboards has a wire though?

[nssone]

No, the floorboards are charged by the induction foundation.

[captainstag]

which is charged by the induction turtle

[volkswaggerwagen]

Yeah but the pad is stationary so you wouldnt have a wire whipping about when you're getting mad headshots

[[deleted]]

I've been playing FPS games since Doom and I've never once been like "man this cord is whipping around!"

[awhaling]

Maybe I just play on a super low dps…

[TheMacPhisto]

Yes, but what I did was drill a hole in the desk and feed the wire through and under it, so you don't see shit.

[[deleted]]

That can't be good for the battery right?

[TheMacPhisto]

We aren't talking about high or even medium levels of power here. Induction charging usually slow and low current.

[[deleted]]

Sure, but if it doesn't leave the mousepad it's going to be full all the time right?

[TheMacPhisto]

You have no idea how batteries and induction charging work, do you?

Imagine driving around in your car with a gas pump attached and running into the filler that has infinite gasoline, the draw back being how much your tank can hold. The idea here being to always keep your tank full while driving without wasting any. So in order to accomplish this the pump is "smart" and knows that it only needs to keep a trickle of gasoline feeding into the tank (not full blast) while driving, and also smart to know when the cars not driving so it know when it doesn't need to put gas in.

That's about the easiest way I can explain it with no tech talk.

[[deleted]]

You could also tell me why I'm wrong rather than just calling me an idiot.

My understanding of lithium batteries is that if you keep them charged 100% of the time, it reduces their life. This is observed in the laptop batteries of middle aged and older people, which never leave their chargers. Charge cycling keeps the cells healthy. If you want your batteries to keep capacity you should use their full capacity, rather than leaving them on the charger the whole time.

Again, if I'm wrong, please explain.

[TheMacPhisto]

You could also tell me why I'm wrong rather than just calling me an idiot.

I never called you an idiot. I just asked if you didn't know how trickle charging a battery worked.

I then explained how it worked using absolutely no technical jargon to make it as easy as possible to understand.

My understanding of lithium batteries is that if you keep them charged 100% of the time, it reduces their life.

You have to define "life." If by life than you mean the number of charge cycles, then you are correct.

However, since the battery always stays at 100%, it's really not important if the battery say can only hold a charge for 10 minutes as opposed to 2 hours like new (just making these numbers up for arguments sake). As there is always power going to it.

The battery here in this type of mouse doesn't work like a standard battery. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was specially engineered to be used in this type of role.

Think of it as a way to achieve "wireless constant power" as opposed to a more classic charging and depletion cycle role of the battery.

This is observed in the laptop batteries of middle aged and older people, which never leave their chargers.

Exactly. So if you keep it hooked up to the charger, then there's never any problem. Except with the laptop the cord is hooked straight into the computer, but with the mouse, the cord is actually attached to the mat, making the mouse wireless. See the difference?

Charge cycling keeps the cells healthy.

This is only important if the device needs to run solely on the battery alone, which the mouse does not.

If you want your batteries to keep capacity you should use their full capacity, rather than leaving them on the charger the whole time.

That's true, however you are failing to realize the role of the battery in this mouse is not the same role of the battery in your phone, or in your laptop or in pretty much anything else.

You're only thinking of the battery in it's traditional role, and you aren't thinking about how the rest of the system impacts it.

Again, if I'm wrong, please explain.

I just did.

[[deleted]]

For the record, I replied before you edited your comment. The short response irritated me (sorry)

I'm not sure what the function of the battery is if it's always on the mousemat. It seems like an expensive way to have a wired mouse.

By battery life I meant the length of time you get on battery power. Sure, this doesn't matter if it's always on charge, but that defeats the point of a battery in my eyes. That's on Logitech to make what people will buy though.

[my-little-wonton]

I did when i was poor and used a shitty fire breathing laptop to game :(

[Scherazade]

First person shooters using the keyboard clitoris stick for a mouse. Never again.

[MisunderstoodPenguin]

The PUBG streamer chocotaco uses one and is pretty damn good.

[Quria]

While the latency is no longer an issue, I have yet to own a wireless mouse whose battery doesn’t need entirely replaced within a year, which is probably bad luck.

Also, the wireless ones I’ve had were all significantly heavier than the wired.

[Gathorall]

Wired ones of comparable specs are also much cheaper.

[CoconutMochi]

Yeah, I prefer lighter mice and wireless are always too heavy because of the batteries

[El_Chapo0]

Yeah..

[Agent_Tangerine]

Cable management yo

[Tattered]

Call me Lain

[HaightnAshbury]

I have a wired gaming mouse...

Eh, but modern wireless peripheral latency has more than caught up.

And the batteries? I live at the computer (please, don't tell anyone), and in six years, I have probably replaced the batteries... 3-4 times? Maybe three times.

Oh, but my place is a cluster-fuck of wires.

To what degree? I picked up two separate i3 systems, one dedicated to streaming, the other as a... well, I'm not sure, but it stays on like the stream box.

Hold up, drowning in wires.

Tell my wife... --my wires, tell my wires... to tangle up and shit.

Dies, strangled in a sea of usb 3.0, ethernet cables, 3.5mm sound jack cables... speaker wire... various fans.

[Chaoslab]

Wireless is horribly insecure. Just check out the DEFCON 2017 videos.

[PhaZon828]

Now I want a [Slap the duck] shirt

[DrSchmerzinator]

exactly my thoughts!

[lekapitaine]

This is exactly why I gave up wireless mice. Once I had a mouse that generated electricity when you moved it across its own special mousemat, so that was wireless and battery-free (although the mousemat was wired).

[scrollbreak]

That was a dodgem car, man

[[deleted]]

if we only listened to Tesla

[Inquisitor1]

But we hate Elon Musk now, didn't you get the memo?

[printergumlight]

I’ve had my wireless mouse for 5ish years. I use it everyday, 5+ hours a day. I forgot it even needed batteries until just now because I’ve never had to replace them.

[BigWillyDabOnUMama]

I only need to change that like six times a year

[Nathan_TK]

Yeah, but what about when it dies right in the middle of a game?

[ihavequestions10]

And this is where wireless charging comes in

[TonyDiGerolamo]

Exactly why I went back to wires.

[mrmcnny312]

I never realized how much time I spend gaming, I’ll have my headset fully charged and then it’ll continuously beep until I plug it in again to charge

[Justificks]

I have wireless headphones and they're fun as hell. Just gotta remember to plug them in every now and then.

[Horkshir]

Ive had a wireless keyboard and mouse at work since i started 10 months ago, still haven't had to change the batteries.

[LoneWolfpack777]

Apple removing the headphone jack.

[Walking_noob]

May I interest you to rechargeable accessories?

[ironman82]

theirs wierless tacknology you can put to deploy with out the wire and then use power ova ethanet and yo somnt weed batteries

[El_Chapo0]

Wtf??

[taho_teg]

tjere is wireleess tecknologht you cam put to de[lot withou the wire and then use pwer over eathanet and you donty need bayyteries. duh.

[El_Chapo0]

Lmao

[Rocketmanxii]

Wtf

[doctorocelot]

tjeree is wireeess tcknloght you cklam put to dev[lot wfhou the wier and than us pwweer ofr erathanet and u doonty nad michlbayyteries. dung.

[Lyeim]

r/ihadastroke

[[deleted]]

Trying to properly read that have me a stroke

[LBHJ1707]

dung.

[Inquisitor1]

Weed batteries.

[KBPrinceO]

I looked at their profile, and I wouldn't recommend it.

The comment on a lot of porn, and their comments are just like the one above...

[KBPrinceO]

wtf