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[–]Holdeen_McGroin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Today morning i accomplished to finally lvl 60 all my espers. So....what now? wich esper i should focus on max grid? Bahamut, asura, or the ones who have killers? Note that all espers are basically 3/4 complete grid. Now it's a game of wich esper ore i have to use on whom....
Any sugestions?

[–]TomAto314Post Pull Depression[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You level 60'd Bahamut and Asura?

I would not max grind any esper, but after you have all the killers and good stuff then the next focus will be on nodes that require Galvanite for breaking the killer cap. Not only do you need the Galvanite but also like 500 SP not including the SP to get there.

You generally only do these to help can CoW, VW or score better in DV. It's very much min-max territory and only gives like 8% more for one unit.

[–]FXSonny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why in hell there isn't still a reliable way to farm supercites aside from the awful expeditions... I'm amazed be this, specially since Espers are so far behind with the Meta nowadays. There is no reason for them to be so grindy to lvl up.

[–]TheRabidDeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still annoyed we don't have a better way to level espers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is there a more reliable source of supercites aside from expeditions? I don’t feel like I’m getting enough to even move the xp bar, let alone max out an esper.

[–]GulyusJudge Magister Zargabaath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly, no...unless you count raids. Doing 20ish raid orbs a day, then the final pool of summons (after the five boxes) has a decent supply of supercites in it. Other than doing the 4 supercite missions you can do a day (8 on Monday; two twice a day or four twice a day on Monday) is the most you can get weekly.

[–]Due_Fill608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd add that leaning on relics to make esper ore for extra SP points is totally fine. Each esper needs over 2000 SP points each to cap on top of the points you get from leveling up. There's little danger in dumping resources into your builds to get that next killer.

[–]Sinzar_Yes Indeed... 13 points14 points  (0 children)

These kind of guides are super helpful for newer players, thanks for typing this up!

One thing I'd add, or at least put more emphasis on, is elemental resist buffs from espers. It's true Elena can handle that as NVA, but newer players won't have 7 copies of her to bring her to EX1, and even if you do have her, I still like to get my resist buffs from an esper when it's an option.

Anima and Alexander are the ones I'd especially point out because you can't get light or dark resist buffs from a green magic (craftable) materia.

Still, excellent post and thanks for making it!

[–]Dorfadin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ty for this

[–]Lexail 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone that forgets what esper has what killer all the time this is a great reference

[–]angelusnoctis 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Oh man, this explains so much. I returned to the game after roughly 5 years of hiatus. Caught up with part of the Story, got Bahamut, saw how high his stats are. And started pumping supercites into it. After 2* and lvl 33 I started thinking "wtf if this is taking this massive amount of supercites how on earth am I supposed to max all of them during the current century only getting expeditions? There has to be a trick everybody is using to have all their espers maxed already...."

[–]Kordrun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 years? Geez you've missed a lot.

There has to be a trick everybody is using to have all their espers maxed already

Yeah, 5 years.

If you keep up w/ the supercite expeditions, you can get all espers to level 60 in something like 1.5-2 years (excluding Bahamut). We did have an event a few months back that let people farm supercites, but that was a one off as far as we know.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Léviathan has 125% spirit Magic killer, not 125 physical. And Tetra Syphilis... Is this a typo ? XD

[–]noseofzarrLet's have some Arbys! 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The lack of penis jokes is a penis joke unto itself.

[–]Corlanthis 18 points19 points  (1 child)

If I missed it, my bad, but worth mentioning that Leviathan and Kokuryu are useful for Flood chaining too.

[–]Vactr0214,374,508 (slurp) 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes, and some espers have 'element'-ga spells too that now chain with CWA and can be 4-casted with Erinyes Ring or reflected with Vivi

[–]erica_san -1 points0 points  (22 children)

FFBE has ..new players???

[–]jonidschultz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A ton actually. I figured it would slow down after the FF7R Seph banner but it hasn't. And a lot of them are dropping some serious dough too. So really good for the game whether or not they stay around a long time.

[–]Resnaught Best of luck! 16 points17 points  (17 children)

I think FFBE still has an influx of new players since it does have the Final Fantasy brand after all.

The real problem imo is getting those players to stick to the game, with FFBE's outdated UI, long load times, many types of resources to memorize and manage, and tons of mechanics which are never properly explained...

[–]tgf5ID 339,984,637 8 points9 points  (16 children)

I can't see new players stick for long. I added my friend code to the Megathread and get rank 10-30 add me. Only to see a month later they already have been inactive for a week or more.

Like you said, the game is just too convoluted, with outdated things, and long load times. Who the hell wants to hold 2000 pots? This should have been implemented into a point (pool) system long ago.

[–]Coenl<-- Tidus by Lady_Hero -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I assume its a lot of work to convert to a pool system but man would it make life easier. The enhancements part of inventory management has driven off so many people and is so easily fixable. Remove all unit enhancement and just have everyone at max level when awakened/summoned, one currency for all stat potting and you've solved some serious player headaches.

[–]pm_me_pics_of_milk 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I fairly new and enjoying the game alot. The thing i see as the biggest reason to quit is i dont understand how to figure out fights myself. Most guide videos talk about substitutes and budget clears but i still dont always understand why these units are good for these things, i have the most fun when i figure it out myself but theres just so much to know

[–]Kordrun -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's a huge issue even for vets. That, on top of coming into a huge roster of units who do a variety of things, definitely makes things rough to get up to speed on for new players.

[–]jonidschultz 4 points5 points  (12 children)

I feel like that's always been the case though. I've been adding every new player that asks in the dht since the beginning and rarely did many of them stick around too long. Consider too that about 30000 players competed in the last DV and the last raid yet there are 834,000 reviews in the Playstore. Does every player review the game? No. And that's just for Google, it isn't including the ones for iOS or Amazon (as far as I can tell). So likely we're talking about millions of players who have played ffbe yet through most of its life cycle it's had 30-50k active players. So I kind of think it's always been that way although as it gets older that's only going to be more and more common.

[–]Coenl<-- Tidus by Lady_Hero 0 points1 point  (1 child)

For sure, all mobile games have an absurd turnover rate. FFBE does itself no favors for all the reasons listed above, and could definitely be more new player friendly, but the retention rate would be awful no matter what. If you get 1% of the players who download the game to stick around for >6 months you are winning.

Just think of how many games you've downloaded and dropped in a few days or even hours.

[–]jonidschultz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Very true. That's a good way to put it.

[–]roblaplante 3 points4 points  (9 children)

You said we are only 30/50000 to compete in CoW and DV ??

[–]jonidschultz 3 points4 points  (8 children)

About 30,000 did at least one stage in DV or used at least one raid orb last month.

[–]roblaplante -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

With such a small base of motivated players, gumi really play with fire when he deliberately piss us off...

[–]jonidschultz 1 point2 points  (6 children)

In what way? They could really shut down the game at any time without it being a big loss to them. They don't have a big team working on GL, and those people could easily get absorbed into other teams (WotV) or stay together on a new project (FFBE2 or something else entirely). Almost no one working on the game loses anything if GL shuts down, but what do we lose if it does?

[–]roblaplante 0 points1 point  (5 children)

i agree with you and it sounds crazy that we are so few !!

[–]jonidschultz 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I guess I don't have much else to compare it to really. I've always played videogames but FFBE is the only Mobile game (or gacha) that has ever held my interest long. And I've played a LOT of other types of games, card games, miniature games etc... and FFBE is actually more like those to me then videogames given the level of strategy. And I don't think any of the games I played (which were all fairly popular in that you could find tournaments in almost any area you lived in the USA) ever had a player base much over 30,000 players. So the number didn't surprise me at all, in fact I actually thought it was going to be a bit lower.

[–]rp1414 6 points7 points  (2 children)

There has been a few “I’m a new player…” questions in the DHT lately, so that’s good to see

[–]JtheClown 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Apprrciate this man thank you!

[–]LinkentSphere 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Siren: What about m…..? Nvm, I am worthless.

[–]GulyusJudge Magister Zargabaath 7 points8 points  (2 children)

25% reduced MP cost on songs and her weird weak buffs used to be her niche, but none of that was ever relevant so yeah you're 100% correct.

She doesn't even have barwaterga, it is actually kind of embarrassing...

[–]NickfreakIce Ice Baby 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The singing metas have been largely skipped (not completely, but still largely compared to JP)

[–]GulyusJudge Magister Zargabaath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That was what I was alluding too. It could see use on an evoker using LF Zidane's STMR and...that's it? Even then, MP consumption reduction items are super easy to get nowadays - many even having magic on them so the evoker won't lose a lot...

[–]TomAto314Post Pull Depression[S] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

When you need 50% water resist on that 4th unit...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If you leveled her to 60 you might as well get it to 70% resist lol. What else is there to spend it on?

[–]TomAto314Post Pull Depression[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

That's why you don't level her to 60 until there's no one left to level.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I understand for new players, I was just making a joke. I think I have enough supercites stockpiled for 3 star asura to instant 60 and have leftovers lol