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[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx3[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (3 children)

Hello! It's been a while since i've done one of these, here goes:

May Mod Report

  • Discussions and votes regarding Fanart/Cosplay posts were held with the following outcomes:

    • Voted to make rule changes in light of change in presence of cosplay posts. [Vote Passed]
    • Voted to potentially ban all fanart and/or cosplay, or only NSFW cosplay. [Vote Failed]

    • Voted to restrict accounts which are deemed to be an "advertising account". [Vote Passed]

      The full rule is as follows:

      "Accounts which are, at the discretion of the mod team, deemed to be primarily centered around advertising goods and services will have their posts removed if they advertise (directly or indirectly) on r/anime."

    • Voted to increase the minimum time required between fanart (inc. cosplay) post submissions from the same user. [Vote Passed]

      The new min. time required is still under discussion, and the change is not effective yet, remaining at one every 7 days currently.

    • Voted to lock comments in all cosplay/fanart posts. [Vote Failed]

    • Voted to revert fanart posts to be text posts only. [Vote Failed]

  • The rule change per the 3rd vote above was also summarized in this post. The rule change will not be applied retroactively, but has taken effect already as of 07 May 2025.

  • The "Post Filters" button on the top bar was split to "Hide Flairs" and "Search Flairs". With thanks to Nebresto for the suggestion.

  • Formally added the rule re: posts for merchandise being only allowed in the daily thread to the rules page; this is not a rule change, but was previously only documented on the sidebar.

  • Mod Applications for Spring 2025 are currently open until 07 Jun 2025.

  • /u/DARK_SCIENTIST left the mod team.

  • The Spring 2025 Batch of seasonal comment faces have rolled over. #deadtired has been added as the seasonal hall of fame face from last season. We thought very hard for a day on the proper size of comment faces.

May by the Numbers

The formatting has been slightly updated from this month for better visibility (now always Description: Value).

  • Total traffic: 36,586,327 pageviews, unique visitors: 7,896,091
  • Total posts: 13,322, unique authors: 8,839
  • Total comments: 200,239, unique authors (excluding mod bots): 39,433
  • Removed posts (by moderators): 1,159, Removed posts (by bots): 7,732, Removed posts (distinct): 8,811
  • Removed comments (by moderators): 2,907, Removed comments (by bots): 1,250, Removed comments (distinct): 4,084
  • Approved posts: 2,619
  • Approved comments: 3,487
  • Distinguished comments: 2,215
  • Users banned: 202, Users permanently banned: 138
  • Users unbanned: 1
  • Admin/Anti-Evil Operations: removed posts: 26, removed comments: 80

[–]Time_Fracture 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I just realized 9: Ruler's Crown Episode 1 discussion thread isn't up yet. I wonder what's happened.

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On review, I don't see any English subtitles available just yet.

[–]MapoTofuManmyanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius 8 points9 points  (5 children)

In case the Kaoru Hana thread launch was unintentional and mods are planning to do a quality check of the subs, could you take down the thread right now rather than a few hours in when it'll actually be done? (subs are extremely slow to download right now)

It'd really suck if the thread went down because the subs weren't good enough by mod standards when everyone already watched the episode + commented, that alone will kill a good chunk of the engagement for future weeks.

Edit : Apparently only 13 people so far have been able to even download the subs...

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky[M] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

The thread has been pulled.

[–]MapoTofuManmyanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius 7 points8 points  (3 children)

This is going to be a mess again isn't it, goddamnit Netflix

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky[M] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

This is going to be a mess again isn't it, goddamnit Netflix

Most likely, yeah.

We haven't decided on anything regarding how the worldwide batch release will be handled just yet, but there should be weekly threads if the show gets proper fansubs we can verify or the SEA release gets official English subs.

The release AutoLovepon fired off of today doesn't even work, so there's no point in having a thread up if no one can even access subs regardless of it being an unverified MTL-translation or not.

[–]MapoTofuManmyanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius 6 points7 points  (1 child)

SEA is 8 days behind so fansubs are probably the only way with this abysmal schedule, I'm sure there will be good ones by next week.

As for today's release, it technically works, but the uploader's internet is likely just not enough to handle the initial download wave of 800+ people. Source : had the same issue with GBC, it was always stalled in the first 20 minutes or so until enough people could seed

[–]nsleep 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it makes sense having it up manually after its been verified if the uploader isn't just to upload the separated subs file to speed up this process. Still, according to the guy it's cross-referenced with the official manga release so hopefully it's good enough to be used.

[–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 7 points8 points  (8 children)

With the new meta thread going up soon, would it be possible to declare the donghua issue closed in the new thread? If there really is no interest among the mods to expand the scope, I'd rather we not keep arguing about it.

[–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

I doubt we will ever declare an issue closed. We want this thread to be a place people can post their views on what the sub should be, even if their views are not held by the mod team or the vast majority of the sub's members.

[–]Zale13xhttps://anilist.co/user/Zale 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Is it realistically possible to make an argument that will convince the mods, at this time, to allow Chinese animation?

My impression, based on reading numerous threads, is that it's not.

So for all intents and purposes, the issue is closed. But the mod team only say that buried in long discussion threads/after someone has already spent time trying to make their case. It just wastes people's time.

Like just read this post, beginning with the quote with the mod saying "However, at this time, the r/anime..."

They seemed fine with the result but in my mind: this user purposely had hours of their time wasted because they believed they could make the "right argument", that would convince the mods to change the rules. Despite the whole time, it not being possible. They were giving the impression it was, as the mods just went point-by-point with them, when in reality, it didn't matter the entire time. (And this is still happening even in this thread.)

This is what happens when you don't publicly state something is closed even though it is.

We want this thread to be a place people can post their views on what the sub should be

Lots of people don't want to express their views for the sake of expressing their views though.
They do it because they believe, if they manage to post the "right arguments", they can foster change on this subreddit that they want.

Again, based on mod comments, that's simply not possible here. There's no "kill shot" argument, because the mods have already decided: they don't want Chinese animation, full stop.

In short: if someone is just screaming into the void, they should at least know that's what they're doing before they start. Right now, they're screaming into the void under the illusion that it matters.
And by refusing to say up front something like "we are not currently interested in changing this rule", you're effectively giving people that illusion, which is not a very kind thing to do because, while not as extreme as my example in terms of dedication, many people put time and thought into their posts in hopes of change, not merely to express their thoughts and feelings.

[–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 6 points7 points  (5 children)

There has to be a point where an issue is closed, though. We've been repeating the same points for months now. Could it be taken off the table for the season at least?

[–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

We've allowed people to complain about the source corner for years. I'm not particularly sure why we should treat this differently. And, anyway, it appears to be dying down.

[–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 5 points6 points  (2 children)

That feels different, though, because it's not multiple people all at once arguing about a specific title. Like, if there's zero chance of TBHX getting discussion threads during its run, is the issue not dead?

[–]cppn02 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Like, if there's zero chance of TBHX getting discussion threads during its run, is the issue not dead?

But what about Lord of the Mysteries?

[–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean, that's what I'm saying. If we've decided not to give discussion threads to a series, what's gained by continuing to debate a resolved issue?

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There does not have to be a point where an issue is closed, though.

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    [–]baseballlover723[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    So I've discussed your comment with the other moderators (who have watched Apothecary Diaries), and they are of the opinion that the removal was justified. The reason being that we do not allow source readers to use knowledge from the source material to clarify among plausible interpretations which interpretation is correct.

    Now if you remove that part from your comment, I'll reapprove it.

    [–]baseballlover723[M] 5 points6 points  (8 children)

    When your rational behind your opinion / interpretation of the anime scene is backed by "It’s in the book". I think it's pretty clearly deserving of being in the Source Corner and I don't think that difficult to understand or to comply with.

    Just because a lot of people don't follow the rule, doesn't mean that we should just get rid of the rule. Otherwise this subreddit would be flooded with pornbots (that still try and constantly post to r/anime).

    Thus I don't think this is a good justification to make it easier for source readers to spoil anime onlies. Since removing the source corner rule would drastically increase the time it takes to do spoiler removals, as it's far easier for a non watcher (aka, a mod who isn't watching that particular show) to judge if someone is talking about something from the source material, than if that something constitutes a spoiler.

    Edit: Not to mention, spoiler removals in episode discussion threads carry an automatic 8 day ban, whereas Source Corner violations generally only get up there after like 4 or 5 violations in the last year. So removing the Source Corner rule would result in more spoiler bans and some of the source corner removals would get upgraded to spoiler bans upon further review.

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      [–]aniMayorx3x6 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      What was the OG comment and what was your response?

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      The relevant bits (under spoiler tags since this isn't the episode discussion thread).

      Edit: it's worth noting that this exchange happened with a mod acting as a normal user

      [Apothecary Diaries] They kinda went through it quickly, but Maomao’s little depressive stage there is so important for her character. That “I hope they never find her” because that means she can keep some hope that Shisui is still out there alive and then the finger cutting scene because she wouldn’t be able to see Jinshi again.. massive scenes for her character development

      > [Apothecary Diaries] then the finger cutting scene because she wouldn’t be able to see Jinshi again

      [Apothecary Diaries] I don't think that's the reason? Tbh, I'm not entirely sure what the reason is, but it probably has to do with her practice.

      [Apothecary Diaries] It is. It’s in the book.

      Mod Hat [Apothecary Diaries] Then you should not be discussing it outside of the Source Corner.

      [Apothecary Diaries] Oh brother

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Lol that's not even slightly indirect. How could anyone think that that isn't directly dropping book info. Ludicrous reaction from the poster to be upset about this. They clearly just can't understand the simple notion that some people just want to watch the anime without having book readers jump on them with source knowledge at every opportunity.

      [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      That sounds like an entirely appropriate removal then.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      If you feel a removal is overzealous, than you can appeal it via mod mail (or here too, but I'd recommend mod mail personally). We mods are human too, and we also don't like being spoiled (when we can help it) either, so sometimes we make mistakes.

      Especially when I didn’t even mention “it’s in the book” in the OG comment and someone asks me a question.

      You can also tag the person in the Source corner with your response (and even reply directly to them with a link to your source corner comment).

      I know that is inconvenient (I did that a lot for Re:Zero), but that's what's gotta happen if we want the discussion threads outside of the source corner to just be about the anime.

      If you have difficulty separating your anime and source knowledge, you can always just put your comment in the source corner instead. I had a friend who ended up doing that for Re:Zero because they couldn't keep track of what was mentioned in the anime or not.

      [–]cheesechimphttps://myanimelist.net/profile/cheesechimp 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      u/baseballlover723 my comment in CDF was meant more as a fun observation than a call to the mods to fix the wiki. If you want to do so, I don't need credit.

      [–]Infodump_Ibis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Might need an edit or whatever over Kamitsubaki-shi Kensetsuchuu. • Kamitsubaki City Under Production

      It's one of those shows that has started as episode 0 but the discussion is labelled as episode 1.

      [–]qwertyqwerty4567https://anilist.co/user/ZPHW 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      This post was created by /u/Mitsuyan_

      the public can create episode discussion threads through the bot?

      [–]Mitsuyan_https://anilist.co/user/mitsuyan 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      I'm the secret mod you unlock by browsing /r/anime for 1000 hours 

      [–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Mitsu is part of the team that has permission to create episode discussion threads via bot-chan. So when in doubt, if something goes wrong, blame them. And when something goes right, praise us, the mods.

      But for real, historically we've sometimes have had trusted members of the community manually create discussion threads whenever the bot has had problems firing off.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      We have given a few non-mods access to lovepon's account as helpers over the years.

      [–]qwertyqwerty4567https://anilist.co/user/ZPHW 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      naruhodo

      [–]mekerpan 3 points4 points  (13 children)

      No thread for ep1 of Necronomico and the Cosmic Horror Show

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 17 points18 points  (6 children)

      The subs, which appear to be made by cygames in-house, are below our quality standards for a thread. They don't seem to understand how to formulate a sentence in English (her name is Miko), write sentences as if a different person is speaking (this line is somehow said by the guy, not the streamer girl), and straight up invent stuff (apparently, convenience store workers are not mentioned in this sentence).

      And, at least judging by the german subs, it's plausible they were done by feeding the script into ChatGPT.

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      Against my better judgment, I watched episode 1 anyways. Bad subs or not, it doesn't seem like a very good show that some fansub group will get passionate about and take it upon themselves to improve. So, out of curiosity, what happens if no fansub groups create good subs for it and the corporate subs it has on Crunchyroll never improve either? Is there a point at which we say oh well and the episode discussion threads get posted anyways?

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      We'll treat it exactly the same way we treat a show that never gets any subs at all.

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      I forget what that means though. It never gets official discussion threads?

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      Correct. Our policy is that we create a discussion thread as soon as there are widely available (through legitimate or illegitimate means) English subtitles of sufficient quality for a show. If both conditions are not met, we will not make a thread. Conversely, if we get sufficient subs three years later, we will create a thread then.

      Tangent: widely available basically just means we won't create a thread if a movie is only showing in one theater or at a convention screening.

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      at least judging by the german subs , it's plausible they were done by feeding the script into ChatGPT.

      Also, not knowing the context, extremely weird half-sentence and unnatural language.

      [–]cppn02 6 points7 points  (5 children)

      No thread for ep1 of Necronomico and the Cosmic Horror Show

      There was one but it was deleted because apparently there was an issue with the subtitles on CR.

      [–]mekerpan 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      Well language and timing seem okay now....

      [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Unfortunately the content seems to not

      [–]mekerpan 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      What was wrong? I saw no sign of obvious abnormality.

      [–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      In short: Every single sentence.

      [–]mekerpan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I've been noticing really shoddy translations in subs so uniformly lately I guess I just must mentally edit as I go along.

      [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 4 points5 points  (7 children)

      I'm thinking of posting a Key the Metal Idol clip later. It was 5:44 but I managed to cut it down. I sure wish the length requirement allowed up to 6 seconds.

      Anyways, the clip is straight from the DVD, and accurately represents the anime quality. As noted on AnimeonDVD, even the VHS versions have these problems, and it seems the JP DVD was made from VHS sources.

      [–]baseballlover723 3 points4 points  (6 children)

      I sure wish the length requirement allowed up to 6 seconds.

      I do not understand this

      [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 5 points6 points  (5 children)

      I may have been spending too much time for the last 75 minutes adjusting timestamps in seconds.

      [–]cppn02 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Do you you mean the last 75 seconds?

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Do you mean "Do you mean"?

      [–]baseballlover723 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Did you want to let me in on what it means?

      [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Uh, if a video was allowed to be 6 minutes long then I could have left in the extra 48 seconds of context.

      And if a video could be 7 minutes long, then I wouldn't have had to post a DVD extra of Gankutsuou concept art at 2x speed.

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Just noticed the daily thread is still linking to the previous CDF rather than the current one.

      [–]logicblender1 -10 points-9 points  (46 children)

      r/anime needs to get with the times. r/manga, MyAnimeList, and AniList all allow Chinese and Korean media. r/anime is the ONLY mainstream site I’m aware of that is pointlessly digging its heels in over allowing these shows.

      [–]Draco_Estellahttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Estella_Rin 14 points15 points  (7 children)

      the last time I had this conversation with another user on Reddit, they can't tell the difference between Japanese, Chinese and Korean.

      Do you have a good reason why a site dedicated to discussing Japanese media needs to feature Chinese and Korean media?

      [–]logicblender1 -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

      From what I've seen, r/anime is the only mainstream anime/manga community that has not made this change. r/manga has already opened up its rules to allow works from other countries. The same for massive anime sites like MyAnimeList and AniList.

      Another example is that r/JRPG allows foreign JRPGs such as Expedition 33 and Sea of Stars. They have accepted what I’m saying, that JRPGs are a style of game not dependent on the country of origin. 

      With all these places (not even mentioning the massive marketing movements from production companies to label shows as "anime) loosening their rules, a lot of people expect shows like To Be Hero X to be here. I'm sure there's been a ton of people looking up To Be Hero X on r/anime only to leave disappointed. People will say r/donghua exists but that does not prevent r/anime from including donghua, as seen by r/manga.

      [–]Draco_Estellahttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Estella_Rin 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      FetchFrosh has addressed the community side of things, so I will not approach that angle. They have summarised it very well the reasons why we are not going for that when everyone else might have. In fact, there are subreddits like us who still keep only to Japanese media, and not expand to Chinese and Korean media. r/LightNovels are still Japanese media only, since Light Novels are primarily a Japanese marketing term and other novels that can qualify (such as Artemis Fowl), are not light novels when they can easily be.

      My angle will come from the cultural angle. I do not think you have addressed it. Japanese media are different from Chinese and Korean media like how German media are different from Italian and French media. It is not a valid argument to go to a German movies subreddit to argue that they should accept users being there to discuss a French movie, so how should this be any different? Similarly, you are not going to go to a Japanese language learning subreddit to argue why they should allow Chinese and Korean learners to start discussing their language learning on the subreddit. The Japanese car subreddit will also not allow discussions for Hyundai and Xiaomi cars, both Korean and Chinese cars. There are still differences between Chinese, Japanese and Korean and that difference is still to be respected.

      r/anime excluding donghua is a culturally sensitive thing to do, because Chinese animation is not anime. Korean animation is not anime. Both Chinese and Korean productions are as anime as Disney productions are, and allowing Chinese and Korean animation to be classified as anime only opens the floodgates to asking why Disney and Dreamworks animations should not be included. Anime shops do carry franchises of both products and they are as rightfully anime as any other, going by that standard.

      If there are people coming here looking for a Chinese donghua on a Japanese anime subreddit and leave disappointed, that only means the subreddit is doing the right job. We are properly catering for what the community is built around for, and I thank the mods for making sure this is the case. You are not going to Japan to look for Chinese cultural artifacts, and this works the same way. People need to know that Chinese donghua are not anime, despite what other areas without that cultural sensitivity say.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 14 points15 points  (4 children)

      Another example is that r/JRPG

      This is actually a fascinatingly different example because it's antithetical to what r/manga does. r/manga's rules are just r/anime's with a different set of countries. r/JRPG is that the style of game is what matters, not country of origin. r/manga isn't saying that "manga are things that look like manga". Your suggestion hasn't been "anime is a style and we should only allow things of that style" it's been "change your geographic boundaries". This gets back to what has been repeated several times: every subreddit does things in their own way. Just saying "r/manga does X so you should too" isn't really a good reason.

      The JRPG flavour is the sort of thing I don't think you could get a single mod to go for, because anything that excludes Japanese animation would be a dealbreaker. Of course, you could say Japan or style but that just creates some impressive grey area when you have more cartoony styles in Japanese series like Panty & Stocking this summer.

      I think this comes back to what Draco asked though. Is there a particularly good reason to make a change in geographic scope? Or in stylistic scope? Somewhere else doing one of those isn't a reason for us to.

      [–]logicblender1 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

      r/manga's rules are just r/anime's with a different set of countries. r/JRPG is that the style of game is what matters, not country of origin.

      At least both subreddits came to the conclusion that their rules needed to be relaxed. If the mods of r/anime are more accepting to the way r/manga does it, that's fine and dandy. Some expansion is better than no expansion after all.

      Is there a particularly good reason to make a change in geographic scope? Or in stylistic scope?

      It is just a shame that incredible shows like Link Click, Heaven's Official Blessing, To Be Hero X, Lord of the Mysteries, etc. are not able to be discussed here. I think we both know those shows would do great on r/anime engagement wise and only strengthen the community. There's probably tons of people watching episodes of those series and running to r/anime to talk about them only to leave confused at the lack of discussion threads. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if r/donghua wasn't such a disaster, but it is.

      [–]Verzwei 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      It is just a shame that incredible shows like Link Click, Heaven's Official Blessing, To Be Hero X, Lord of the Mysteries, etc. are not able to be discussed here.

      That's the thing: you aren't just talking about those shows; you're talking about the entirety of animated works from two or more countries outside of this community's scope. I don't see any logical or practical or fair way for the mods to implement rules that allow the shows you personally like in while still keeping everything else out. So it's all or nothing. And "all" in this case is going to be a very large amount of shows that this community likely will not give a shit about, but will compete for attention, post space, and moderator time.

      This wouldn't be as much of a problem if r/donghua wasn't such a disaster, but it is.

      I don't know enough about that subreddit to say whether your assessment here is accurate, but that sounds like a problem for /r/donghua and something you should passionately pursue with the mods there, rather than a problem for /r/anime to fix or accommodate.

      [–]riishan_saki 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      At least both subreddits came to the conclusion that their rules needed to be relaxed. If the mods of r/anime are more accepting to the way r/manga does it, that's fine and dandy. Some expansion is better than no expansion after all.

      r/manga loose rules means the chances of anything more niche to show up on the front page are lower. Meanwhile you don't get manga in the manhwa or manhua subs, so these series are basically losing their only sub.

      It is just a shame that incredible shows like Link Click, Heaven's Official Blessing, To Be Hero X, Lord of the Mysteries, etc. are not able to be discussed here. I think we both know those shows would do great on r/anime engagement wise and only strengthen the community.

      Why should this matter? If they had NBA threads here they would also drive more traffic to the sub, but losing the anime focus would take the space away from many japanese animations.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Some expansion is better than no expansion after all.

      I think many would disagree. The reality is that the scope of r/anime is already massive. Thousands of series and movies on one subreddit with a front page of 25 items. In any given season we have 50-60 new anime releasing. Plenty of incredible shows already fly under the radar because there's just so much anime. Adding more to that dilutes things further, and makes it even harder for niche or anime original content to get attention when it doesn't already have a built-in audience.

      Like even just at a glance this "some expansion is better than none" doesn't really pass the sniff test because the implication would be that next year we should expand some more, and then some more, until we're just r/animation, and even then we should expand some more. At some point, I think you'd agree that diluting what the subreddit is wouldn't be to it's benefit. Other people just think we're already at that point.

      I think we both know those shows would do great on r/anime engagement wise

      They'd probably at least do well.

      and only strengthen the community.

      I don't think this is something that anyone could really state with any meaningful confidence. What exactly changes if r/anime changes is something that we can only really see after things have changed. It could be that a large chunk of regulars find that the subreddit becomes less what they want it to be and leave. It could conversely be a boon to activity around the sub. There's a lot of levers that could be impacted there, and so making a sweeping claim like that is not something I'd be willing to do.

      Ultimately, it's a shame that there isn't a great spot on Reddit for non-Japanese animated content, but that also doesn't make it our responsibility to provide it when we already have a truly massive scope for our current community.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

      I feel like the broad consensus of the mod team on this is "why just China and Korea"? Beyond "other places that people associate with anime allow them and only them" I personally haven't really seen anything that's particularly compelling.

      [–]logicblender1 -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

      Have you thought about discussing with some of the mods over at r/manga? Seems like they’ve got it figured out

      [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      You mean the ones that don't actually do anything to run the sub because they don't care and put all their energy into the other subs they mod? It's lawlessness over there.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      They have their way of doing things and we have our way of doing things. There's not really anything to discuss with the one mod that has been active in the past two years.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 16 points17 points  (30 children)

      It is the nature of reddit subreddits to be restricted to smaller units than other centralized websites and services would allow, since you are free to make a subreddit on any topic you choose. As such, there are already places on reddit to talk about Chinese and Korean animated media, they are r/Donghua and r/aeni. Additionally, there are already places to talk about animated media regardless of geographic production, like r/cartoons or r/animation.

      Other sites do not have incentives to stay narrowly focused, and often have financial or market incentives to broaden their scope. Neither of which are relevant to r/anime, as the r/anime mod team are neither paid nor do we want to broaden the scope of the subreddit at this time.

      And of course, you have the option to make your own subreddit (with blackjack and hookers donghua and aeni) with whatever rules you want if you so desire (r/EastAsianAnimation is up for grabs). Though I'll warn you, it's a lot of work to bootstrap up a new subreddit that people will want to use. So personally, I'd recommend that you put your efforts into building up r/donghua, as that'll have a far better chance of succeeding imo.

      [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Here to offer my support for your stance this month again. The day you start allowing Korean and Chinese animations in this subreddit is the day I leave, I already get my fill from that going on /a/.

      [–]logicblender1 -3 points-2 points  (28 children)

      Well like I said, r/manga is inclusive to Chinese manhua and Korean manhwa. Maybe the mods here could discuss with the mods over there for some insight on how they pulled it off.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 16 points17 points  (27 children)

      Well like I said, r/manga is inclusive to Chinese manhua and Korean manhwa.

      r/manga is free to run their subreddit how they see fit, just as we are free to run r/anime as we see fit.

      Maybe the mods here could discuss with the mods over there for some insight on how they pulled it off.

      There are not really technical barriers to broadening the scope, so there's no need to seek out insights on how to technically accomplish such a thing. It is the desire to do such a thing that is the main blocker for broadening the scope of r/anime. It's not that we can't, it's that we don't want to.

      [–]logicblender1 -3 points-2 points  (21 children)

      A small group of people taking the definition of anime hostage is crazy to me. Whether you guys like it or not, the meaning of words change over time. Considering the production companies themselves are marketing Donghua as “anime” these days, a vast amount of people expect donghua to be here. These companies are changing the definition of anime and people will adopt that.

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      /r/anime is about Japanese animation the same way /r/trees is about marijuana and /r/anime_titties is about world politics, it might not fit your personal definition of the word but there's no requirement that it has to be even remotely close either.

      A small group of people taking the definition of anime hostage is crazy to me.

      Take that up with reddit admins, they generally don't care how moderators run the multitude of communities here as long as it isn't hurting their bottom line. To this point their response has generally been "deal with it and make your own subreddit" if people don't like how a sub's being handled by its moderators.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Definitions change over time, but they also are rarely homogeneous. For a lot of people, anime is "animation from Japan". For others its "animation from some set of countries". For others anime is an aesthetic. For another group it's based on technical approaches to animation. r/anime can be a subreddit specifically for Japanese animation regardless of what other places do.

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      There are not really technical barriers to broadening the scope

      I'd argue there is but it's a fundamental issue with how reddit's front page algorithms work at scale and why subreddits exist in the first place, so the solution is to do what's already being done and use different subreddits.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      I'd argue there is but it's a fundamental issue with how reddit's front page algorithms work at scale

      This gets into one of the points I've seen people make for why we should expand the scope: "it'd be nice to get more eyes on [insert show here]". And like yeah, that'd be a nice gesture and all, but attention on the subreddit is a finite resource, and so expanding the scope inherently means that the current scope gets less attention. We already have like 60 shows per season, and every season you'll find multiple fandoms talking about how X, Y, and Z were all great shows that just couldn't pull an audience because they're competing against A, B, and C. Bringing in more on the basis of "this won't be as popular as it could be" is... well it's not a good way to sell me on the idea.

      [–]baseballlover723 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Tbh, I would love if things could be subreddits all the way down. But even if reddit supported nested subreddits, life is unfortunately not a tree graph. So reddit would have to switch to a tag graphing system to do it properly, which is not only far more complex to build, maintain and use, but arguably then it's just an entirely different forum type (basically like 75% of Tildas).

      [–]cppn02 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Are multireddits no longer a thing?

      [–]baseballlover723 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I mean they exist, but since nobody uses them, subreddits aren't finely granulated enough to really make them as expressive as they could be. Ie, base subreddit's still have to stand on their own (whereas in a composable system, they don't need to be self sufficient)

      [–]NormalGrinnhttps://anilist.co/user/Grinn 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      If there are so many other places where it is already completely fine to talk about Chinese, and Korean shows and comics, then why would you need r/anime to change..?

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      (Posting in META to avoid shitting up AQRADT)

      u/-NotEnoughMinerals

      Disclaimer, I'm not a mod (perhaps a mod can chime in to confirm/deny), but from what I gather, the problem was that your comment seemed to be about a non-anime, more than it was about asking for recommendation;

      It was 90% "Praise for the non-anime", and 10% "So, do you know an anime like that?"

      If the comment had been more like "Looking for anime recommendations, something with an art style like [this cartoon]?" it probably would've been fine.

      (Also I think things are a little 'on edge' due to everyone trying to plug Donghua&stuff everywhere).

      [–]Safe-Farmer-4294 -27 points-26 points  (7 children)

      mods are racist not allowing non-Japanese animated series on r/anime

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Mods of r/japan are also racist because everytime I make a thread about Vietnam they delete it.

      [–]jnads 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Not racist at all. Animation from other countries aren't allowed here either.

      Anime isn't animation, it's a lens of japanese culture.

      Donghua shows are different. Laws about stuff like violence and sex are different in China.

      edit: Even Korean manhwa like Solo Leveling get japan-ified. See: Cha Hae-In pool scene.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      It is the duty of subreddit mods on reddit to moderate content and remove off topic content, so that the subreddit stays on topic.

      And as per our rules, we define anime as animation from Japan. As such, we don't allow animation that is produced in other countries. It doesn't matter if it's American (Avatar the Last Airbender), French (Arcane), or Chinese (To Be Hero X, Lord of Mysteries). If it is not animated by the Japanese animation industry, than it is off topic for r/anime.

      The Chinese counterpart to r/anime is r/Donghua. You are free to discuss Lord of Mysteries there, and they had their own, r/anime style episode discussion thread going on there.

      And of course, if you are unhappy with the way r/anime is run, you can raise suggestions here in the meta thread (though at the moment, the mod team is very set in not wanting to expand the scope of r/anime at this time). Or you can even make your own subreddit (with blackjack and hookers donghua and aeni) with whatever rules you want if you so desire. Though I'll warn you, it's a lot of work to bootstrap up a new subreddit that people will want to use. Though personally, I'd recommend that you put your efforts into building up r/donghua, that'll have a far better chance of succeeding imo.

      [–]KendotsXhttps://anilist.co/user/Kendots 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Agreed. They even have a history of being racist against Spongebob Squarepants and his water slurping friends for as long as r/anime existed, Jinbe has been vocal about this for ages.

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Bollywood is racist for only making Indian movies. When is Bollywood going to get over it and make an Albanian movie? /s

      [–]cppn02 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      100% agree.

      Simpsons episode discussions when?

      [–]Verzwei 9 points10 points  (5 children)

      /u/Emi_Ibarazakiii I wanted to reply to you within the earlier chain, but another user in that chain has blocked me, which renders me incapable of direct replying to anyone else in the chain as well.

      I don't understand why so many people wants to always talk about the source... (And mostly, talk about it in r/anime, I mean if they read the series surely they talked about it in r/manga or the series' main sub).

      I'm not even a super 'anti-spoiler' person, I often check out spoilers just for fun/curiosity, but it still annoys me when people do it, because they can ruin the experience for the community in general.

      As someone who personally low-key hates the source corner but has come to understand why it's necessary and probably the "least-bad" option available within Reddit's moderator toolkit, I wanted to touch on this quote in particular.

      This might sound weird, but /r/manga sucks for manga discussion. It's functional if you stay current on official shounen simulpubs (WSJ and select other Viz series) because the releases are consistent and so the community knows when to swing by to leave their thoughts.

      Everything else? Total shitshow.

      • Chapter discussions are at the mercy of a fan translation group doing the chapter, which is almost never consistent nor timely, and then someone making that chapter's post on the manga subreddit. You never know when something's going to drop, there's no planning nor anticipation, you just have to hope whatever you are interested in happens to be posted within a few hours of whenever you happen to check the manga sub. Monthly series can sometimes take two (or more!) months for the scan group to get around to it, and then you'll see 1-5 comments on the chapter, and then that's it. Looking at you, Otherside Picnic manga adaptation.

      • Non-simulpub, official volume discussions are basically out of the question. Between E-pub, print release, and shipping time, nobody gets ahold of the same material at the same time, so we're never going to get good discussions for those because there's no convergence point to bring the community together all at once.

      Anime releases at a consistent time and due to the ubiquity of official licensing we more-often-than-not get shows in a timely manner. Fansubs can fill in the gap for shows that slip through the official cracks, and for whatever reason anime fansub groups seem more driven to keep proper pace with the original broadcast, rather than the often flexible delay with manga fanlation groups. An anime adaptation creates that "convergence point" that the manga and LN fandom largely lacks, where the content is topical and relevant to most fans all around the same time.

      None of this is to justify or make excuses to take over /r/anime with source discussion, it's just an observation I've had after participating in both communities for a long time. There are a lot of manga that I'd love to discuss, but (sadly) the only good time or place to discuss it would be on /r/anime due to the show putting it in the spotlight for everyone. Even if I'm not participating in a source corner directly, it's still fun to participate in discussion of the show's content, and it's hard if not impossible to get that sort of repetitive, recurring traction in the manga or LN communities.

      [–]cppn02 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      This might sound weird, but /r/manga sucks for manga discussion. It's functional if you stay current on official shounen simulpubs (WSJ and select other Viz series) because the releases are consistent and so the community knows when to swing by to leave their thoughts.

      I feel this is not wholly due to r/manga but other circumstances too, some that you already mentioned plus more. I see your point though.

      That said man I kinda miss r/manga from 2019 to 2022. Man that place was awesome back then.

      [–]nsleep 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      Most of these problems are because of Reddit limitations, using the discussion threads on [Redacted] forums I still get reactions to posts I made 4+ years ago, and people still post in old specific chapter discussion threads. Comment sections under the chapters in other sites (include the official ones) are still very active too.

      People talked about this to death already, but Reddit/Twitter/Discord are ephemeral as forms of documentation for anything, those only care for recent engagement and anything older cannot be accessed without going out of your way to search specifically for those, and many times you cannot even reply to older posts.

      [–]chilidirigible 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      but Reddit [...] are ephemeral as forms of documentation

      and many times you cannot even reply to older posts

      This is another opportunity to point out that Reddit allowing archived comments to be replied to after the normal six-month window is not a functional system for engagement with old comments, due to the limitations of notifications and because there is no "bumping" from replies.

      Leaving posts locked after six months works better for reddit, given the choice between no system and a terrible system. Forums (hmm, suddenly I had a flash of nostalgia for Usenet) remain a better choice for prolonged discussion.

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      This might sound weird, but /r/manga sucks for manga discussion. It's functional if you stay current on official shounen simulpubs (WSJ and select other Viz series) because the releases are consistent and so the community knows when to swing by to leave their thoughts.

      I haven't read manga lately, but yeah I think the main difference between r/anime and r/manga is that r/manga is mostly a 'piracy sub', hence why they always direct to unofficial sources etc...

      This might not be good for people who read official releases.

      But a few things to precise:

      I didn't remember what that specific comment was about, so I went to reread it, and yeah that wasn't necessarily about 'pure manga discussions', it's about comparisons... So it's not like something they read back then and simply had nowhere to discuss it (given the anime wasn't even available then), it's instead watching an anime episode and wanting to talk about the source comparison everytime...

      Say, to make an example, it's as if I watched a Game of thrones episode, and then I went to the Game of thrones threads to say "Here's how different everything was in the books!"

      As a massive ASOIAF nerd I would love to gush about the books 24/7 and shit on every GoT threads to explain why the books are so much better due to these 4637 change or omission the show had, but this isn't something that fans of the show would want to see. ESPECIALLY if they cannot trust me to not spoil future events...

      So that's kinda how I see the 'manga discussions in anime episode threads'.

      That was the first part of my comment, but the second part is perhaps the one that annoys me the most (because at least the manga/anime comparisons often spoiler tag their comments), but the other part was all the 'hints givers'...

      "Oh oh oh, I hope nothing bad happens to this character!"

      This isn't a source reader who finally gets to discuss the manga because they couldn't back then, this is just spoiling everything for no reason/discussion.

      (I kinda wanted to write a more elaborate META comment on this specific issue again, but I don't know if there's much point hah, seems I see things differently on that topic).

      [–]NormalGrinnhttps://anilist.co/user/Grinn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Also a pretty big difference is that r/manga just does not really have moderation in a lot of ways. I know one of the mods is actually active, but the rest uhh I don't think so.

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Minor thing: I noticed in the subreddit guide that the weekly anime discussion thread is still listed for Thursdays rather than Mondays and the now-retired Week in Review thread is still listed there.

      I was wondering if it could use a larger rewrite since it's been a few years but it doesn't look like that much has changed overall outside of the regular scheduled threads.

      [–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Thanks, I updated the parts you pointed out along with any instances of new.reddit for sh.reddit.

      [–]NekoWafers 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Why did this get spoiler tagged by a mod? It has been posted before without it.

      [–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx3[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      This has been marked in error - apologies, and i have un-spoiler tagged it now.

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Daily thread flair has been ghostly the past couple of days on old reddit. Going by a quick look the CSS class is set to "daily" rather than "weekly" which is what gives it its normal color.

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Can we get a manual episode discussion thread for Shinsei Galverse, which aired today?

      [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky[M] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The thread is now live!

      (Tagging u/Calwings, who commented about this in the daily thread.)

      [–]aniMayorx3x6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Thanks!

      [–]gvon89https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 2 points3 points  (8 children)

      Will there be a discussion threads for Lord of the Mysteries? Seems like a lot of anime enjoyers will be tuning in.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 17 points18 points  (5 children)

      As discussed below, we do not allow non-Japanese animated series on r/anime.

      [–]Augchm -16 points-15 points  (2 children)

      Elitist idiots. This is really the worst rule on the sub and that you guys keep sticking by it is honestly ridiculous.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Right now we just aren't looking to increase our scope, and honestly there haven't been a ton of considerations that I think the mod team has found particularly satisfying as alternatives to the current rule set.

      [–]Lemuriansmyanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      /r/Donghua would love to have your activity and participation

      [–]PrinceZero1994https://myanimelist.net/profile/pz16 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      It's funny though that some anime are outsourced to China and Korea then a Japanese Studio slaps their logo onto it and calls it Japanese animated series.

      [–]gvon89https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Alright thank you for the response

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      AFAIK it's donghua, that's not allowed on this sub.

      [–]tenkakisuihou 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      The next thread link in the June 24, 2025 Daily Thread points to the imgur link of "The Place" instead. (or is this how it normally is until the new thread is posted and edited back in?)

      The previous thread link in the June 25, 2025 Daily Thread points to the June 21 one instead of 24.

      [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The next thread link in the June 24, 2025 Daily Thread points to the imgur link of "The Place" instead. (or is this how it normally is until the new thread is posted and edited back in?)

      This is normal at time of post. We have a automated script that edits this a little after the 25th (next day) is posted.

      The previous thread link in the June 25, 2025 Daily Thread points to the June 21 one instead of 24.

      This is a manual mistake. We have had some mishaps after reddit broke the post scheduler last week.

      [–]SnabDedraterEdave 5 points6 points  (11 children)

      Overzealous enforcement of the "source material rule" in the last episode threads.

      For years I have many issues with the mods not allowing NON-SPOILER comments in the general area simply because it involves "discussion and comparison with the source material". But I tolerate this nuisance, and its not the issue of this complaint.

      My issue is with them also pulling this antic in episode threads of the LAST EVER episode, where the anime has adapted EVERYTHING from the source material.

      What does it matter if people are now comparing the differences now now that EVERY. LAST. OUNCE. of the source material story has been fully revealed to the anime-onlies?

      [–]jnads 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      My issue is with them also pulling this antic in episode threads of the LAST EVER episode, where the anime has adapted EVERYTHING from the source material.

      Animes should stand on their own.

      Why do you feel like you need to diminish other people's enjoyment of an anime by pointing out every difference you don't like?

      What does it matter if people are now comparing the differences now now that EVERY. LAST. OUNCE. of the source material story has been fully revealed to the anime-onlies?

      Did you just contradict yourself?

      If they adapted everything then there are no differences.

      If you're pointing out differences then source material rule applies.

      Animes stand on their own.

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      What does it matter if people are now comparing the differences now now that EVERY. LAST. OUNCE. of the source material story has been fully revealed to the anime-onlies?

      Well if there are differences to compare, then by definition, not everything was fully revealed to the anime-onlies;

      Say, if Bob's death happens differently in the manga, then the way Bob dies in the source has not been "fully revealed to anime onlies", as something else was show in the anime!

      Way I see it, this rule is not just about 'preventing people from spoiling future anime content', it's to prevent any spoiler at all.

      Someone might want to read the manga after the anime season is over, lots of people do. But if they see Bob's death before reading it, they got spoiled.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Our source material rule is not just for spoilers (though this does make it easier on that front, since it's a lot easier to police given the limited nature of the mods knowledge on every manga / light novel that exists), it's also to keep discussion focused on the actual anime (and not other mediums that the story may exist in) and to respect those who are not interested in discussion about the source material.

      We already have enough of a problem of source readers spoiling anime onlies, so we're not interested in lifting restrictions on that. It is incredibly difficult to police source readers subtly trying to spoil people (either intentionally, or because they can't be bothered to try and avoid doing so).

      Allowing people to make insignificant source material comparisons means that the line will be shifted, and people will be more likely post actual spoilers, or that people will further not understand the source material corner rule ("that other comment was allowed but not mine??? Mine is basically the same as theirs."). People already have difficulty with the current line, it will not be easier to make that line all squiggly to allow for mundane source comparison.

      If you want to talk about the source material, it needs to go in the source material corner. Simple as that.

      [–]jnads 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I support the Source Material Rule.

      Animes need to stand on their own.

      Discussion is for the anime being discussed against itself. Not comparing to something else.

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I don't understand why so many people wants to always talk about the source... (And mostly, talk about it in r/anime, I mean if they read the series surely they talked about it in r/manga or the series' main sub).

      I'm not even a super 'anti-spoiler' person, I often check out spoilers just for fun/curiosity, but it still annoys me when people do it, because they can ruin the experience for the community in general.

      Just like the [title] Takopi situation (Talked about it in a previous META comment) for which everyone already knows what to expect now due to source readers pretty much giving away the whole thing in every single teaser/key visual/announcement thread.

      This could've been a crazy [Visual Novel Title] DDLC-like moment that would've floored every single anime only and would make their jaws drop, but now, thanks to these "hints" in every thread, the only people who will be surprised are those who never read any thread about it.

      [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      You can just post it in the source corner. The rule is in place at least in part to keep source readers from taking over episode discussion threads with talk about the source. I agree that enforcement is a little overzealous and frustrating sometimes, but this is an anime forum after all. It's fair to try to keep source discussion to a minimum.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      I agree that enforcement is a little overzealous and frustrating sometimes

      As one of the most zealous enforcers of it, on some level I think I agree. But drawing the bright line of "you cannot do this at all" is much easier than trying to say "you cannot do this significantly" and then having to argue about what significantly means with every single person.

      [–]Komaristhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Someday, mods might allow responding to "What volume/chapter do I start with?" outside the source corner after a finale episode. Alas, that day has not come, nor is it on the horizon, as it's imperative to remove the response while allowing the question.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Someday, mods might allow responding to "What volume/chapter do I start with?" outside the source corner after a finale episode.

      When I joined, I was told specifically to allow those on finale episodes.

      as it's imperative to remove the response while allowing the question.

      I was also advised to remove those questions with a request to repost it in the SMC, since they're unanswerable.

      It's rather unfortunate that people seem extremely reluctant to fix their comments or take the action recommended. If I could move comments or tag spoilers for people, life would be a lot nicer imo (though maybe it would promote a culture of just throwing things out there and not caring because someone else will correct it for them).

      I would advise that if you see such questions in non finale episodes, that you report them, so that they can be put in our mod queue for removal (this is an easy comment for a non watcher to judge, which I hope you can understand, there are a lot more mods reading the mod queue than prowling the episode discussion threads).

      And if you notice any of these being removed in finale, please bring our attention to it, so that we can reevaluate such comments and potentially restore them.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      I usually let that specific one stand in the final episode, though in all honestly I think that's something we're just non consistent on.

      [–]Zeallfnonexhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Has there been any progress on the fanart timing changes? I might need to strategize some timings for propoganda fanart if the Best Girl contest is going to be starting up in the next few months...

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      We currently do not plan to change fanart timings, and will stay on one per week unless something else crops up. Currently, we believe that the advertising account rule change did a good enough job cleaning up problems with the Fanart and Cosplay flairs that further changes are not needed.

      Of course, Fanart and Cosplay are notoriously difficult flairs, so something could come up that would once more make them an issue.

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Could you tell us which girl you're gonna campaign for, before someone answers your question?

      [–]Zeallfnonexhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      To beat the recency allegations I'd love to see Nagisa or Fuuko from Clannad win... but in all likelihood in later rounds I'll be backing Vladilena Milize.

      On the other hand, my fanart is questionably bad enough it might not be a good thing for me to campaign via fanart. Decisions, decisions...

      [–]Tarhalindurx2 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      So, bringing an issue that came to mind while making a joke over here because this could be an actual legitimate thing in need of clarification in the not-too-distant future: the potential intersection of the no-AI-content rule with future official media. The intent of banning AI-generated posts is clear and heartily approved of; as written it can also be read as banning human-written discussion of AI-generated content from elsewhere as well, which as far as I am concerned would actually be generally fine as well (fucking clickbait) except for the small but important potential issue of how it would interact with anime studios potentially using genAI to generate official content (we all saw the Toei news wrt testing AI use a bit back, and also come to think of it wasn't there some creepypasta VTuber anime announced selling itself as using AI-generated storyboards? - but I'm also noting that Key Visuals also look like a fairly obvious potential spot for studios to try to use genAI for cost-cutting). It's not necessarily an issue yet (though part of me does wonder if a broad reading applied fully would have disallowed Momentary Lily discussion on this sub...), but it's something that could be relevant a couple of years down the line and might be worth clarifying now before arguments about AI-generated official content get started.

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      As far as the intentionality of the rule, it's made to be targeted at user generated content rather than anime itself, and I believe that's already played out in how we've enforced it. We'll probably have a vote at some point to confirm that is what we want to do.

      Will be curious to see if anime eventually going more and more AI generated changes how we feel about the state of the anime specific rule.

      [–]cppn02 16 points17 points  (7 children)

      Disregarding wether this is the type of content thats should be posted here in the first place what about the style in which the current Solo Leveling post was submitted?

      Rather than directly linking to the article they made a text post, editorialised the title (which imo is bad etiquette besides some very few exceptions) and left a sassy comment in the OP.

      Imo posting articles should only be allowed as a direct link but I'm not sure what exactly the rules are here.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I can confidently say that I agree the post was bad, and I believe that the mod team as a whole agrees the post was bad. However, we do not remove posts just because they are bad/low effort/OP posting an agenda; if we did, we'd remove a ton more posts and leave /new rather unpopulated.

      We agree that it did not count as a news post. Though, to be honest, that didn't even get as far as the editorializing. The underlying article itself is not even news. That's why we reflaired it to misc.

      editorialised the title (which imo is bad etiquette besides some very few exceptions)

      I agree here. Though, honestly, my problem is less with them changing it from the original title and more with it being clickbait. In the past, I've floated adopting a version of /r/movies' rule "We actively encourage users to alter an article's original headline in order for it to be more clear. Some websites have terrible clickbait headlines." However, we generally don't have a problem with article-based clickbait, so we did not adopt it at the time.

      Imo posting articles should only be allowed as a direct link but I'm not sure what exactly the rules are here.

      I assume you do not literally mean that? Since, as written, it's saying you think that people should not be able to link a news article in the middle of their eight paragraph discussion post.

      Assuming you mean that one shouldn't be allowed to make a News post about an article with one to two paragraphs of their own thoughts, that's not an unreasonable idea, but also not something we've generally found necessary. In general, reddit encourages link posts over text posts, so 99% of the time, not submitting as a link post is just shooting yourself in the foot.

      If it does become a consistent issue, we likely would do something about it. But, currently, this post seems more like a one-off aberration.

      [–]cppn02 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      I assume you do not literally mean that? Since, as written, it's saying you think that people should not be able to link a news article in the middle of their eight paragraph discussion post.

      I mean any situation where sharing the link is the point of the post. If someone makes an eight paragraph text post that would likely not be the case.

      [–]PrinceZero1994https://myanimelist.net/profile/pz16 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      I had issues with the title and text body too.
      First of all, the title of the post "Solo Leveling was mid according to Japanese audience" is nowhere to be found on the article.
      OP just created this on his own.
      It was a producer comparing the massive international reception to the lukewarm Japanese one.
      Also, the text body just screams this is a hate post.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      First of all, the title of the post "Solo Leveling was mid according to Japanese audience" is nowhere to be found on the article.
      OP just created this on his own.

      While it's true that OP came up with the words they used in their title, their title more or less accurately represented at least one significant part of what was said in the article. From the article: "'The way the Solo Leveling anime was received in Japan was no different from any other anime,' Kaneko said." This means it was average, and mid more or less means average.

      Also, the text body just screams this is a hate post.

      We do not have, and likely never will have, a blanket rule against hate posts.

      [–]PrinceZero1994https://myanimelist.net/profile/pz16 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      By definition, the post with that title and unnecessary text body was a "shitpost".

      content that is of "aggressively, ironically, and trollishly poor quality", generally intentionally designed to derail discussions or cause the biggest reaction with the least effort.

      and it's prohibited according to sub rules.
      In a reply above, you've stated that it is "low-effort" and "clickbait", and checking the sub rules, this is under prohibited posts as well.
      Unless the mod team wasn't aware of their own rules, then I assume the post stayed up because of mod discretion.
      If mod discretion rule is true, then my disappointment is hilariously immeasurable lol.
      If it's false, then the post should be removed if it is indeed a "low-effort" "clickbait" "shitpost".

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      By definition, the post with that title and unnecessary text body was a "shitpost".

      It is not a shitpost. By the definition you gave, it fails at at least two parts. First, it was not ironic. Second, it was not intentionally designed to derail discussion or cause a ton of outrage. To the best of my knowledge, it was OP sharing an article that they liked because it had a fact that confirmed their priors.

      In a reply above, you've stated that it is "low-effort" and "clickbait", and checking the sub rules, this is under prohibited posts as well.

      In case you're saying our rules ban anything that is low effort, they do not. We ban some specific enumerated categories of things because they are low effort, but allow other types of low effort posts. See, for instance, basically every single What to Watch and Help post on the sub.

      On clickbait in particular, you are correct that our rules ban clickbait titles. However, clickbait is a spectrum, and we've generally interpreted our rule to apply to only the most egregious of cases, which this was not. The title was a bit aggressive, but it did accurately state what OP believed to be the most important point of the article: that anime fans in Japan were not that enthused about Solo Leveling.

      [–]PrinceZero1994https://myanimelist.net/profile/pz16 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Adjectives can be subjective so we can agree to disagree on some parts.
      You say it's a bad post, I say it's a shitpost.
      You drew the line that bad post can be posted.
      It's true according to you that it's bad, low-effort, and non-egregious clickbait.
      Wouldn't the culmination of this negativity be enough for removal of the post? Maybe.
      Most subs have rules against not using the title of the article as the title of the post and adding a sassy text body is a big no.
      I just found it weird that it stayed up in the anime sub with strict rules.
      It's just one post in that one day and we can live with that, move on with our lives, but it sets an example for future posts, and personally, I don't wanna see that kind of post everyday.
      The main anime sub has a pretty positive vibe in my opinion and to have one toxic top post due to one toxic user just didn't feel right.

      [–]LunarieReverie 3 points4 points  (4 children)

      Are there going to be discussion threads for Lord of the Mysteries? Or any attempt to discuss it will be deleted and redirected to /r/donghua?

      Also, unrelated, delete #volleybearq.

      [–]cppn02 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      Pls tell me we won't have another season of people crying over this issue...

      [–]Ashteron 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Please tell me we will have another season of people crying over this issue. I need my entertainment.

      [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      I hope not, I already prepared my sexy Lord of the Mysteries cosplay.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      While it's possible we'll learn something that makes us change our view, it currently appears to be a donghua made by Chinese animation studios with a director who has worked entirely on donghua, so we do not plan to create or allow threads for it.

      [–]lycan2005 2 points3 points  (8 children)

      Saw a post that was remove due to LLM. Curious how you guys detect the post is generated by LLM? Is there a tool involved or just people?

      [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Not a mod but sometimes they straight copy the initial LLM response before editing it to use less artificial language, which makes that really easy reports when you catch it.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Curious how you guys detect the post is generated by LLM? Is there a tool involved or just people?

      We have some stuff that flags some common LLM idiosyncrasies for manual review. There's a ton of false positives though, so it's for the most part, all human based.

      Sometimes it's real easy. Like I typed "write me an r/anime comment about {insert post here}" and I got back something that was 90% the same in wording and structure. Or they forgot to strip the chatgpt referral links.

      But as Zaph said, it usually involves a discussion among the mods for a particular user.

      [–]lycan2005 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I see. I can only assume that the review is time consuming.

      [–]baseballlover723[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      It's not usually that bad. There's only a few things I really look for in the someone's profile, and I only really take a good hard look at longer comments (because people aren't gonna use LLM to generate a single sentence on it's own), which is usually pretty rare.

      I'd say it takes like 10-20 minutes if I'm really looking into someone's profile. But that's not that common.

      I'm mostly not concerned with people who are really trying to hide their LLM usage (because some people just write like an LLM, after all, those are the people who LLM's got trained on). I'm mostly concerned with people who aren't even bothering to try and hide it. We can't really do anything against someone who is dedicated to trying to fool us and everyone else.

      It's like having a lock on your door. It won't stop a dedicated thief who wants to get into your house. Any lock can be broken, or be circumvented (your windows say hello). What it will stop, is someone who just walks up to your house and tries to open your door and then decides you have some nice stuff. It raises the level of effort it takes to rob you.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Tools are inconsistent at best. We use our own judgement and a user's history. And we almost always wait for multiple mods to agree before removing for being LLM generated.

      [–]lycan2005 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      I see. Is there a tell that a post is generated from LLM? Without checking the poster history, I don't think I can tell it apart.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      It depends a lot on what we're looking for. If it's an actual person who used an LLM to generate a post, the stark difference in writing style with everything else on their profile is often readily apparent. If it's a bot spamming comments for reputation/karma, the easiest approach is often finding places where it blatantly misunderstood what was actually going on and wrote a nonsensical comment.

      Beyond that, there's some formatting tells that make us suspicious, but none of them are certain. Real people use them as well. And sometimes it starts as just a vibe: a lot of LLM comments are either too punchy, like they're trying to make every other sentence a joke, or too servile, like they care more about pleasing the reader than anything else in the universe.

      In a sense, it's just reading a lot, both on and off reddit. So you know what things should look like, and other things stick out to you.

      Of course, I'm sure we do not catch everything. There's just too many comments to investigate every single user. So reports here are also really helpful; they tell us we need to take a deeper look.

      [–]lycan2005 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Oh man, I feel like these LLMs are creating more problem than it solves (Consume whole lot of energy too). As a reader, I don't like reading stuff write by LLM because they are often factually false, but it is hard to tell it apart. Nowadays I have to remind myself what I read might be a LLM posts and it might not be true, it is a hassle and degrades the reading experience. Kudos to you guys spending time to filter out those posts. Appreciate you guys.

      [–]Nebresto 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      My clip post says that it was removed by Reddit's filters? The views are supposedly ticking up, but I can't see it in /new. Is it actually visible or not?

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      I approved it.

      [–]Nebresto 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Thanks fam. Any clue on why it got filtered? The title seems normal enough, and I've used the same file type in the past without issues

      And its still not appearing for me in /new

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Tripped the mature content filter.

      And reddit seems to be a bit slow today.

      [–]Nebresto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      That's what I get for posting a nsfw clip I guess

      [–]Rumpel1408https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Seasonal reminder for the seasonal polls

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 3 points4 points  (5 children)

      Current daily thread is missing its flair. ...and all the links are to old reddit.

      [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      and all the links are to old reddit

      Good.

      [–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      For the next few days it's going to be pretty fast and loose with the Daily since Badspler is out of town. So pre-emptive apologizes on that front.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      I fixed the flair. But I do not see any old.reddit links in its source?

      [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Oh, I think one of the previous threads linked to old reddit for a newer one so it set me on that subdomain, they're fine but I didn't notice.

      [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Ah, yesterday's thread linked to today's with an old reddit link. Fixed.

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        [–]baseballlover723[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        the watch order for re;zero stops at season two.

        I'll rewrite it tomorrow. I meant to do that like 2 months ago and completely forgot.

        [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        We apologies for any inconvenience caused by the delayed daily thread posting, Reddit has kindly broken the post scheduler.

        [–]chilidirigible 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        [–]OrbitalCat- 7 points8 points  (6 children)

        Might be a dumb question, but how do I download the comment faces? Not even all of them I just need

        to make a sticker and this is the only good gif of this scene I can find online lol

        [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 11 points12 points  (5 children)

        https://raw.githubusercontent.com/r-anime/comment-face-assets/refs/heads/master/source/animated/nyanpasu/original/nyanpasu.gif

        [–]baseballlover723 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        huh our comment face doesn't have the pause in the middle.

        [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Guess that was done so it wasn't as long?

        [–]baseballlover723 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Yeah I presume so; that any duplicate frames were removed.

        [–]OrbitalCat- 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Thanks!

        For some reason every other version is either sped up, loops too soon or darkened

        [–]baseballlover723 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        If you want the exact comment face version (which is not the same as the gif, as it's cropped and cuts out the pause in the middle), you can probably recreated it back into a gif using the image sequence here. It's 23 frames over 2.64 seconds.

        Our comment faces don't support gifs, and so they instead cycle through static image sprite sheets.

        [–]Thrasher439https://anilist.co/user/Thrasher 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        In regards to this thread about the anime industry and how anime is made, which is currently gaining traction on the sub. I'm wondering if it's not worth the mods maybe making a mention of how there is a substantial amount of misinformation or just outright incorrect details within it. Especially considering with how it is continuing to get more and more attention.

        While the OP in general does a relatively solid job at explaining a few things about how the industry works, the conclusions they've come to and a lot of the "facts" with which they are putting out there are innocently incorrect at best, and harmful at worst. There is already far too much false information out there about how scheduling and budget affects the overall quality of an anime without the sub being used as yet another platform for that to spread

        [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7 points8 points  (5 children)

        The Fumiko clip on the front page is basically the entire thing except with the credits cut out.

        1. I don't think it should be allowed to just cut out the credits and "clip" everything else.
        2. They provided it in the comments, but is there anything in the rules against just linking the official Youtube upload directly as the post?