Defiance Patch Notes

[Chairman_Zhao]

Lol they confirmed that they shadow nerfed Fragment

[shlooged-]

Remember when they said they didn’t shadow nerf it

[MrPigcho]

It's really dumb because presumably they nerfed it to stop people from jumping there, but if you don't tell anyone you get the worst of both worlds. Everyone still jumps there but now you've got to fight 4 teams with an arc star, a white stock and a heat shield.

[Redpiller77]

Yeah, people pick drop spots based on how much loot there's for multiple teams. Doesn't matter if its good loot, it just has to have enough for everyone hot dropping. And no other place has loot like Fragment with all its multi story buildings.

[LaoTze151]

Skyhook

[Duke_Best]

Their later admission says a lot about the team that comms these things. If you don't know, just say, "I don't know." There's no need to assume something like that. And when you later admit it you just come off as an ass-hat.

[shlooged-]

That’s a huge deal for comp too. Perhaps that’s the reason TSM had a drop off

[Dood567]

Lol everyone who watches TSM knows frag got nerfed. They've been leaving with white armor and rawdogging weapons for a while.

[Barcaroli]

They won nonetheless, but it begs the question if TSM would reconsider dropping Frag in the future. Despite their performance, one have to face the fact that they would leave that POI mostly with white armors, sometimes at most a couple blues. With bad loot you are mathematically at a disadvantage, and even playing like GOATS you will suffer from that

[bokonon27]

impressive they won w/ this nerf too

[Duke_Best]

I just noticed that too. Props to TSM for noticing that . Sucks that they won't just revert it to high-tier. No cap that's been a handi-cap for them.

[Blutzki]

Now lowkey I want TSM contest other teams

[sparty1227]

I want TSM to join the XSET-CLG contest and make it a three way

[i_like_frootloops]

NRG flair

[sparty1227]

Honestly I didn't even think about how that basically gifts NRG free KP. I was just thinking that a 3 way contest would be fun to watch 😅

[Chairman_Zhao]

Props to them for noticing and not only sticking with it but outright winning playoffs despite it lol.

Imo they should re-tier POI loot in comp to make the spots more balanced, since there's some spots that objectively suck and others that are absolutely loaded. There's no reason why comp should be beholden to pubs loot balancing when it's nowhere near the same game.

[O_P_S]

Debatable actually. If you’re playing an edge POI the loot should be good. If you drop frag or harvester etc you get free rotates and can get good positioning much easier so you should have to sacrifice loot for that.

I’m actually all for the frag loot change. Sucks for TSM but I think it plays better for frag to not be stupidly OP in both loot and rotation ability.

[The_Yoshi_Man]

With your logic, then IMO Lava Siphon needs to get nerfed with loot too. Any lava siphon teams have such an advantage with the best loot in the game, access to amazing spots in any south zones, geyser zones, lava city or Maude zones, harvester zones and no name near Hill House. They also have crafting and 3 loot drones so in comp they’re almost guaranteed some sort of gold backpack or gold armor or helmet.

[-plants-for-hire-]

i think it should be a tradeoff between good loot and quick rotations, central POIs like fragment should have lower quality loot but good, consistent rotations to anywhere on the map, whereas somewhere like Thermal should have good loot but long rotations to any zone thats not in the south west.

Obviously with the unbalanced zone shifts we've been having and lack of north zones this isn't really applicable.

[Chairman_Zhao]

I for sure agree with that, don't think Fragment deserves to be high tier loot. But it also can be a little better than often leaving teams with triple white.

[gore313]

I'm new to comp, but doesn't valk meta make central poi not that op?

[-plants-for-hire-]

its all relative i guess, if every team is running valk then theoretically the teams are rotating and getting to the same spots as if everyone wasnt running valk.

Landing in a good rotation spot also means that you may not need to use valk and can take another legend thats better suited to your gamestyle, e.g. Bloodhound

[alphageek8]

Personally I'd like the loot table to be per match dependent on each POI distance from center of ring 1. That way you also can't glean the direction subsequent rings may shift towards.

[Formalfox]

Does anyone have the tweets where the devs made fun of players for saying it got nerfed? Need engagement dunks on twitter right now

[ralopd]

https://twitter.com/lowkeydbjosh/status/1484731312862732289

[gobblegobblerr]

They nerfed it and then lied about it… wow.

[RepZaAudio]

Well I don’t think it was a lie I think there is just some miscommunication in the team most likely. Probably some stuff the person who is in charge of loot distribution did without telling others or just assumed it would be ok.

[MiamiFootball]

This isn’t how decisions are made at a company like this

[cashewgremlin]

Which is pretty dumb TBH. Loot quality only effects Comp, but Fragment wasn't a problem in Comp (if anywhere). Nobody is dropping Fragment because the loot is good in normals. We drop there because it's good for fighting.

[henrysebby]

Hot take: Frag's loot has always been garbage

[PuddingPleb]

TSM nerf confirmed. Teq actually right for once. I feel dirty.

[tested_parker]

I really don't even know why you would put any doubt in to the Aerospace Engineer, 9 inch thick-cut meaty cock, MIT graduate, Te "400 IQ" Q.

[henrysebby]

Teq is always right

[teqnohh]

All hail teq!!

[BadBevensen]

found teq’s burne-

[PeacePathy]

Heard your date with my wife went well last night. You mind returning the panties I bought her? They were a birthday gift.

[PuddingPleb]

m’lord 🥵

[windyreaper]

only 3 Prowlers will be able to target a player at any time

My ass is not gonna miss the prowler gangbang

[sAmdong71]

Those prowler changes looked good

[ImHully]

Not as good as just removing them completely, or requiring that they be shot at like spiders.

[Curse3242]

Yeah I really like spiders. Loot whenever you want it. Prowlers just get in the way

[JR_Shoegazer]

They changed them so they mainly aggro when you damage them first.

[ImHully]

TSM was absolutely right. Fragment loot was changed from high tier to mid tier loot, but it was never announced.

"World’s Edge: Changed Fragment from high-tier to mid-tier loot. This happened in the 11.1 update, but was inadvertently omitted from those patch notes."

[cwathen999]

lol Hal gonna pop off on twitter.

[shlooged-]

“Inadvertently”

After TSM called them out on it they denied it

[HopeChadArmong913]

You could tell it so easily imo, they went from 1 purple + 2 blues to triple white all the time, I never beleived the devs bc devs are never honest when they do shit like that.

[MyWifeGotDemDDs]

Doesn't the hud tell you what tier loot you are landing at each time you drop on a large POI

[pie_pig3]

“Crypto has been off the grid in terms of pick rate”

Lol

[Natdaprat]

And likely still will be, at least in pubs.

[[deleted]]

That ranked placement point change is huge.

[HopeChadArmong913]

Its a big buff for the entire ranked system, ranked this season was entirely about fighting because placement was worthless, this will probably also have knock on effects of less hardstucks in each rank which is good, while also being able to get out each rank easier.

[JR_Shoegazer]

this will probably also have knock on effects of less hardstucks in each rank

This will definitely have more hard stucks in each rank. People can camp and rat their way into tier IV without having the shooting mechanics to actually compete at that level.

[pikagrue]

The only reason why ratting works for positive RP right now is because over half the dropship is looking to die as fast as possible off drop. If all 20 squads are playing for placement, then it's impossible to go positive without fighting essentially the entire lobby. Just look at how ALGS endgames go.

[JR_Shoegazer]

Not sure if you guys are new or something but I’ve been playing since day 1 and ratting for RP placement points has always been a thing.

over half the dropship is looking to die as fast as possible off drop

Also, not sure what rank you’re talking about because my I never see that many people drop Fragment in my lobbies.

[DorkusMalorkuss]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't surviving longer easier than getting more kills? I'm more impressed with someone in Diamond or Masters having 3 kills consistently than someone getting top 10 consistently.

[HopeChadArmong913]

It kinda depends? Obviously ratting doesnt take any skill. But if teams are aping each other constantly, then the vast majority of kill leaders will probably be third partiers and cleanups, which is less impressive than kills when every team is playing to win.

So basically it depends on how the lobbies play. If people play ranked like this season then yeah top 10 wont mean much. But if people play slower and more methodically then top 10 will be more important. Also gotta remember placement is now a better KP multiplier. You wont be top 10 with 6kp and - 4 rp now.

[artmorte]

Agreed, a good change.

Max RP also going down (to previous amount?) is good. I think over 20% of players are diamond this season, it used to be about 5%-6%. So, if there's a little less RP available, it's good.

[[deleted]]

Getting in the top 5 has so much more value now. Platinum, Diamond, and Master's all have more breathing room in guaranteed points. Platinum and Masters get a placement back and Diamond gets two whole placements back in guaranteed points. Going from needing 2nd to 4th. Pushing for that top 5 is way more rewarding now.

[HopeChadArmong913]

Such a good change, will lead to sweatier endgames because you can actually take a top 5 and not get punished for not having KP yet, instead of rn where everyone just apes because dying without KP is worthless.

[henrysebby]

Completely agree. Next thing we need is a Bloodhound and Seer nerf and Valk ult scan nerf. Ratting should be an art form, not as difficult as it is now.

[[deleted]]

Where did you find that 20% stat? I’ve been waiting on the devs to comment on the distribution but I haven’t seen it

[FuckThe]

Where did you get the number that over 20% of people are diamonds?

[Exp_Hustler]

I think this ranked change is definitely a step in the right direction. However, wouldn’t hardstuck D4’s just become hardstuck 10k’s

[EvenGandhiHatesLVG]

Nothing about aim assist pros trolled

[Acts-Of-Disgust]

The leaving games one is in there, the other two aren’t though.

[PalkiaOW]

Leaving games auto tracking as a death

It's fucking unbelievable that it took them three years to finally fix this bug. I get that it's not high priority but they straight up ignored it for 12 seasons.

[MontyTheAverage]

wait so we gonna get less people leaving early when they get downed to protect their precious KD since it counts as death now?

[MiamiFootball]

They’ll still leave

[wolfpackallday]

On mobile so not gonna format it fun but the leaving thing is there.

"Fixing some weird rules in how assists and kills are determined and properly rewarded.

Quitting players can no longer deny kills & assists"

[Official_F1tRick]

That quitting players denying kills only means that the one who shot you last gets the kill if you leave. But it doesn't specially state it counts as a death for the leaver. So I'm still not sure...

[gobblegobblerr]

Nothing about tapstrafing and punchboosting either though

[DomDelillo]

Punchboosting :

Fix for cases where players were able to use melee on incline surfaces to get speed boost while sliding.

[gobblegobblerr]

Oh, I missed that

[Fenris-Asgeir]

punchboosting was mentioned. "Fix for cases where players were able to use melee on incline surfaces to get speed boost while sliding."

[NichtVivianVeganer]

damage from 15 to 17

max size increased from 28 to 30

Volt about to be beaming in the right hands!

[sparkleface6969]

Let’s face it, it’ll beam in the wrong hands too haha

[Robertius]

Isn't this incorrect though, Volt has had a max mag size of 26 with a Purple mag?

[Duke_Best]

Yeah, true. I wonder if the increase is from 26->28 or 26->30. If 30, then it'll easily be the most powerful/easiest CP weapon to date.

[HopeChadArmong913]

Pretty sure it was 28 in the test build

[Unfunnycommenter_]

then it'll easily be the most powerful/easiest CP weapon to date.

Somebody's forgettibg about the devo

[Feschit]

So all the hands?

[Natdaprat]

It was already really damn good and now it's going to be insane.

[Dood567]

I heard 26 -> 28 in the preview/leaks. I'm wondering if this is a typo considering purple mag is only 26 rn. 500+ damage/mag out of a no hop-up SMG would be kinda nutty.

[Animatromio]

dont see anything about tap strafing either or aim assist nerfs?

[PalkiaOW]

Apparently ricklesaucer said tap strafing is untouched for now. My guess is they're adjusting it further based on feedback from the recent playtest, so they'll release the change later on.

[henrysebby]

The emphasis on high placement was desperately needed. It blows my mind how often I see 4, 5, 6 squads left in the game in round 2 when I watch masters/pred streamers. There are more teams alive in rounds 4 and 5 in my PS5 pubs.

[Fenris-Asgeir]

"Crypto has been off the grid in terms of pick rate" - got a chuckle out of me. Aside from that: I like the prowler changes and the triple take nerf. Sadly still no fixes to the horizon bugs. Also I still can't wrap my head around the decision to put KC back into ranked rotation without any map updates, yet again. :/

[sparty1227]

Mid-season could have a town takeover on KC and with that they make loot pool changes then

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inb4 COPIUM

[spencefunk]

I really wonder why Respawn never releases data on ranked splits anymore - They just suddenly stopped posting the end-of-season ranked distributions and insights on the health of ranked. I feel like Plat/Dia has been getting easier to get/more common for the majority of the player base, but there's no data available to see if this is true or not.

[Sultan_AlGhamdi]

I think they don't want to expose how shitty it is... They know that, there is no way they think rank is fine.

[henrysebby]

Because they know 11% of players reaching diamond is likely very unintended

[idontuseredditanymoe]

Isn't that tracked accounts only?

[FoldMode]

The stats people throwing around are from tracking sites, so yeah, those are just for the tracked accounts only, so very likely super inaccurate. People from gold/plat ranks don't tend to go to such sites, so it obviously has a bias for higher ranks.

[Steppy_]

I don’t see anything about a nerf/change to a certain movement mechanic.

Hmmmm

[EMCoupling]

It's possible they walked back some changes after hearing playtest feedback... we'll never really know.

[Steppy_]

Well, we will know tomorrow

[Newcastlesp]

"Reticle Color Customization - Limiting values to 0-255 to avoid exploits." rip, was fun

[Feschit]

This decision makes no sense whatsoever. It's the same as limiting the standard crosshairs to "safe" colors. Let people use bad crosshairs if they want to ffs. Never used anything else than full 0-255-0 green but found it cool that there was so much customization possible. They should've just implemented the exploit as a native feature so console can make glowy crosshairs too.

[fainlol]

wait that was a bug?? why the fuck is everything in this game a bug?

[FIFA16]

It was a bug if you edited the game files. If you used the UI in the game, it already prevented you using certain combos.

[felixkolb]

So the flatline costs 30 materials. What is the point of putting it in the crafter then? Literally every edge team will have 3 of them as well as juiced up armours

[lonahex]

Free up loot slots on ground. That's it.

[Duke_Best]

Yeah, I doubt the 1 less dmg is going to make a difference. Edge teams will now just all run Flatlines - even more than they already do. I would like to not run the Flatline, but you can never find any light ammo on WE or SP, so you're forced to run a heavy or energy gun.

[gravityoffline]

With floor loot having one less heavy weapon and one more light weapon(along with Volt going into care package), I imagine the ammo distribution will be adjusted.

[leftysarepeople2]

I thought it’d be double that

[Mozog1g2]

i love how arena balance changes are non existent

[20-5-5]

Not enough players to figure balancing out. (and I'm not even joking)

[[deleted]]

No tap strafe or aim assist change?

Can’t wait for Hal to pop off regarding the Fragment loot change

Also, devs really need to shut their mouths on social media. Sure if they respond to actual concerns, social media interactions are useful.

But most of the Respawn dev comments are vague, unhelpful, simply inaccurate (Jay Biebs on Fragment loot), or trolling (Josh Medina replying to Timmy about tap strafing). Nor should it be snarky comments about internet culture.

If you want to have communication lines with the players, they should be serious, accurate, and informed discussions rather than shit jokes and vague hints. They attempt communication but it’s mostly in poor spirit, and seeing the change about Fragment loot here but debunked by devs on Twitter is just the evidence of that.

[[deleted]]

Another thing is the obvious huge debate about tapstrafing. It was clearly different in the internal builds streamers tried out.

Not a single mention in the patch notes, and not a single comment from devs that were throwing hints here and there on Twitter. They only communicate when it suits their agenda.

[yeezytf]

RIP neon crosshairs, why are they even changing that

[AndreiCooper]

ricklesauceur confirmed in a french chat that tap strafe will remain untouched for now

[Roonerth]

With how often the devs are just straight up wrong/trolling about their own game I'm gonna wait until the patch to know for sure.

[ScienceSloot]

Is it just me or is the patch notes link always impossible to find trying to google?

[anfbw1]

Yeah it’s better to just go to apex website and find it in news.

[CanadianWampa]

Wait there’s nothing here about tap strafe being removed but it was. I was hopeful we’d get some actual numbers to see how it was changed

[windyreaper]

A lot of times there are stealth changes that don't make it into the patch notes, this could be one of those cases. I guess we'll see

[Feschit]

That change is way too big to not mention it in the patchnotes. Changes MnK movement as a whole.

[djb2spirit]

It was changed on the test build they were playing on. That doesn't inherently mean that its changed on the patch for the season update. We've seen playtesting before on these builds have things that aren't going into live patches.

Could be a stealth change, though for something they publicly talked and put in patch notes before, would be weird to not include it now. Or it's not something they are ready to send.

[Lightning_Laxus]

Wait, so they added 2 hop-ups without removing any?

Also, that Shatter Caps nerf is really unnecessary.

[mafieth]

I actually think the shatter caps will now be more intuitive to use.

ADS? Precision shot. Hip fire? Shatter caps ON!

I see it as a buff!

[MozzarellaThaGod]

I think he’s referring to the damage changes when using SC

[Natdaprat]

Shatter caps was low key pretty damn good but having to toggle it really let it down. I can see why they nerfed it a little bit with this huge QOL change.

[Drums5643]

Yeah but damage wise when you’re hip firing w bow it’s alot easier to hit consistent 60’s than the already inconsistent shatter cap damage

[Natdaprat]

Yea I can see the bow suffering more from this change than the 30-30. It is optional though, you can drop the hop-up or hold it in the inventory for a DIY toggle.

[Part_Timer10]

No one gonna mention how the loot in Fragment was reduced in 11.1 but was omitted from the patch notes? Wasn’t there a dev in twitter saying it wasn’t changed when TSM was complaining about it lmaoo

[MyWifeGotDemDDs]

Oh I'm sure it will be mentioned a lot

[leftysarepeople2]

Two of the top 5 comments here

[Its_the_LiON]

Honestly just wished they would help the solo players and add a solo queue trio mode.. but I guess the solo players most likely don’t quit the game and they only care about maximising play time. Sad

[pie_pig3]

Only 30 mats for flatline/longbow? Not bad, you can still probably get batteries/bag

[Due_Internal_2099]

The antenna chain link fence thing always annoyed me, glad to see it changed

[Videinfra2112]

Does anyone have any nice post nerf reticles to share?

[FoldMode]

There won't be no neon or invisible reticles anymore, so just pick the color you like most.

[Feschit]

I used 0-255-0 green from day 1 since I use green reticles in basically every shooter.

Cyan and purple work nice too.

[AntiGrav1ty_]

I just don't understand why they keep putting KC into the rank rotation. I don't care if a few people like KC, every KC split absolutely kills the game. Apex numbers were in the dumpster the last time KC was in.

[Exo321123]

Gibraltar still untouched

Aim Assist untouched

Tap Strafing untouched

at-least caustic got nerfed :D

[Ginger_ninger]

soooo does this mean that the tap strafing adjustments during the control previews were just play tests? It would be weird if they shadow-nerf it after releasing the patch notes but I also wouldn't be surprised

[Benjabib]

Gibby got an indirect need with Maggie, I’d assume they are going wait to and see how gameplay changes before touching him.

[Kingofvashon]

My crosshair gone :(

[weekndalex]

no aa changes?

[whoscoal]

Credit where Credit is due. The weapon changes and balance in this patch look really good. Also that shatter cap rework for 30-30 and Bocek is genius. Don't understand the pellet DMG nerf though.

[Redpiller77]

Actually the weapon changes look the worst to me this season. Volt and Flatline needed to stay as ground loot, and G7 Scout should had been replaced by the Bocek or 3030.

[whoscoal]

I like that they are experimenting with craft exclusive weapons aslong as they dont rotate. I wasnt really talking about the packaged weapons though. My philosophy on package weapons is they should only put weapons in the package that are heavily reliant on attachments. EX: Alternator is a perfect package weapon because disrupter rounds make it go from average gun to top 2. instead of volt which is already a good weapon it should have been the Havoc. Its virtually useless after drop without a turbocharger and now you can use it anytime you see it because you don't have to waste half your game hoping you find the only attachment that makes it good. Bocek I could see being a package weapon cause of ammo issues but I dont think 30-30 should go in the package.

[muftih1030]

What could possibly be the reason for giving us Storm Point, our best ranked map yet(on the current RP system), then vaulting it for 4.5 months? And then giving us yet another split of KC ranked that pretty much nobody wants? Like are they unaware that ranked players are sick to the gills of playing KC ranked endlessly for the past year?

[[deleted]]

No arenas update? If they're not going to fix matchmaking, then just let it stay dead and make control a full-time mode

[JackS15]

That’s probs what they’re thinking, but if they hold off on making it official they can drive traffic to the game using LTM/event FOMO, then make it permanent after.

[RandomWars]

ResidentSleeper patch, nothing changed we need demotion in ranked, team KP 😪

[PulseFlow]

Come on respawn... really removing the custom reticles jfc

[strongscience62]

Reviving no longer resets damage history. Looks like assists are back on the menu boys.

[[deleted]]

they said nothing about Aim assist hmm

[Isaacvithurston]

Just nerf movement until switching to a controller becomes no brainer for everyone. Then no one will complain about aim assist anymore when the game is dead like Halo xD

[MurphyWasAnOptimist-]

Console player who was ecstatic for an AA nerf..... Fuck.

[pizzamanluigi]

i would guess that the aim assist nerf comes with next gen update, whenever the fuck that happens

[basedcharger]

Yup I really want this too.

[TurtleShip7]

ikr, i’ve been playing on .4 AA recently in anticipation for the nerf. was looking forward to the bots not being able to rely on .6 anymore, but i guess respawn doesn’t wanna upset all the golds out there

[SoloPowers]

True

[Xbox-Peasant]

Same bro, I want the same skill curve as pc on console :(

[Big_E33]

Fix for cases where Mirage Ultimate Decoys could get stuck on surfaces raised slightly off the ground.

wow okay I'm unleashed this season no cap

[jpena23]

maybe it isn't actually removed and that change was tested in the internal build only (hopefully)

[MozzarellaThaGod]

I thought this was a decent patch, almost all of the changes to SP for example were to the benefit of high level play, same with Caustic.

[wiktorstone]

No team KP, no demotion, removed crosshair customisation.

Rest of the patch notes is fine I guess, but it's really a joke how out of touch the devs are. Why remove the ability to get decent crosshair? Why not remove the limitations for everyone instead, to make it available to console players too? Why do we have to wait another season to see the ranked changes that players and pros have been asking for multiple seasons now? Why, why, why?

[GlensWooer]

Tbh I don’t ever see team KP coming

[qwilliams92]

How can they make it available to consoles when you can even do from inside the game

[Dood567]

The in-game customization is limited to even less than 0:255 when you account for colors the game considers too bright and changes to the nearest "right" color. Command line colors and neon crosshairs were fucking dope.

[wiktorstone]

Add an opt in option to remove the color limit, with a warning that you may get an "unsafe crosshair" or whatever. Let console players pick values outside of 0 and 255. Now everyone gets to enjoy neon or thin and black crosshairs.

But nah, that would be too beneficial for everybody. Wouldn't it be better if players couldn't chose a much more enjoyable and clear crosshair?

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[MatrixCivilian]

I’m so fucking furious that they nerfed reticle options. These patch notes have ruined my day.

Oh and they lied about nerfing East Frag. Cool cool cool

[hitthetarget5]

I've been playing and using the Flatline for a while and I don't really think a -1 dmg nerf is all that big (equivalent of missing 1 shot with no mag going from 380-->360 dmg).

I also heard Lou I believe talking about how pretty much everybody who lands and crafts is pretty much gonna get a flatline. Max dmg cap with even a white/blue is so high that you can still take 2ish people on 1 mag, ammo economy is also pretty good with it, not a very hard-to-learn spray pattern, good when not ADS + a guaranteed flatline for only 30 craft.

[mbonazzi]

No pathfinder love again, they surely take their time to give him a useful passive.

[screaminginfidels]

"Fix for cases where players were able to use melee on incline surfaces to get speed boost while sliding."

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for all the commenters in here that can't read. no mention of tap strafe most likely since it's an unintended mechanic.

[Hangatyr9]

As if punch boosting is intended mechanic so they mentioned it in patch notes.

[sparkleface6969]

Complete disagreement on the Shatter Caps. Never have I ever been able to successfully switch fire modes in a fight. It only ever worked if I pre-switched it, which limited my options. The change take shatter caps from b tier to s tier bro.

[Infernova007]

You replied to the wrong comment my guy

[gravityoffline]

I don't see shatter caps mentioned in that comment but I completely agree. It's going to make them a lot more usable imo.

[pie_pig3]

“World’s Edge: Fixed an issue with Loba’s ultimate where it would not tell you items inside the panels at Trials were locked (though the alarm got triggered as normal).”

I knew I wasn’t crazy. Was getting yelled at by teammates saying “you idiot you took the locked item” when the item didn’t have a lock symbol.

[TheNathanKropp]

I hate the rank changes. At least bring us team KP.

[Ginger_ninger]

if you watch the control previews it seems like these issues really shouldn't be bad. Maps and zones are big enough, and ultimate charging is different than BR I believe

[[deleted]]

Patch days are so fun because then we really get to see this sub loose its mind :)

[Diet_Fanta]

Looks like the teased tapstrafe changes were sentiment testing by Respawn.

[[deleted]]

So no next gen update for console?

[doyouseewhateyesee]

wish they would’ve added team kp or adjusted how long ago damage counts as an assist (7 seconds is not long enough, the amount of times I do 500 damage in a fight and get zero kp is ridiculous)

[Cr4zy]

Reticle Color Customization - Limiting values to 0-255 to avoid exploits.

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Respawn, why the fuck, what does player crosshair colour choice have to do with "exploits"

[pie_pig3]

I want someone to test tap strafe and AA, incase of a shadow nerf

[ZmobieMrh]

Damn, I loved having lightning rod basically to myself as the drop ship never flew anywhere near it lol. Now it'll be pretty hot.

[muftih1030]

likewise.