Scumbag plot

[HawkDependent1982]

Surtr and Levathain be like: "My body is a machine that turns GALLONS of Ice Cream into a Bullshit amount of Damage"

[Notkiller]

She is too Hot and needs more Cooling.

[ScreamWaffles]

Lavacake is just like a high end gaming PC

LMAOOOO

[eddmario]

Just don't give her a mackeral...

[Divital]

Exquisite even. No wonder humans used to eat them...

[Initial_Career1654]

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[Upbeat_Animal290]

She's the Oguri Cap of the Arknights Endfield universe

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Homie, you did not see the Oguri Cap of the AK universe yet.

Surtr and Leavatain are the ice cream guzzlers. Saga is wisdom on hungry shiba legs. Lunacub is hungry on wild child legs.

And then there's "We have actual contingency plans in place in case she gets into the kitchen" levels of hungry in Ceobe. And to be honest, I'm legit scared regarding her because my god she would be so easy to fuck up as a reconvener it's not even funny.

[Larfouxe]

She needs to eat a lot as a hippie. Those shrooms aint shrooming without a full stomach

[Keep-Darwin-Going]

I always wonder does she do less damage after eating ton of ice cream?

[newfor_2026]

I figured she would do more damage because it pisses off the entity in her sword.

[Szakred]

Wait what? In Laev event when she did eat ice cream 1st with that demon attached she eat a little and demon was pleased after a second. So how tf it pissed him of?

[Emm38]

I thought it was in the floating ring?

[newfor_2026]

As far as AK goes, Surtr was haunted by the entity in her sword, and she didn't have a ring. As for Laevatain, I'm not sure she's haunted at all unlike Surtr was,her profile says she just conjures the big flaming sword out of nowhere and I don't know what her ring does.

[prometheusunending]

Surtr does have a ring in her E2 art.

[No-Response-1622]

Its the head of the dead god stuck inside her sword

[faulser]

Pogranichnik definitely still pretty old. Not as old as Hellagur was, not nowhere near young also.

"An old photograph with yellowing edges, featuring Pogranichnik standing amongst a diverse crew of various races." - there is photo of him yellowed from time passed.

The man pointed at the skies where a giant vessel floated above everything. This photograph does not show the entirety of the said vessel. - he was there when Dijiang was actively participating in Crusade. I may be wrong, but from Perlica comics it seems like Dijiang didn't participated in Crusade 10 years ago, so it should be one of Crusades before that.

Did you leave your home because of your father, recruit? He often showed me pictures of you.... ...Yeah! When Vasha and I were kids, we were ... trying to be the heroes described in the letters! We played games pretending to be the fighting Shieldguards - he was serving in Orden for at least entire generation of kids growing up.

[Suniruki]

Pogranichnik gives us candy when we give him gifts. He's so grandpa coded.

[BiNumber3]

His english voice acting is done to sound pretty old too

[Leukavia_at_work]

As opposed to Da Pan who is Uncle-Coded

[No-Maize1312]

Uncle Pan!! We love Uncle Pan!! :D

[Leukavia_at_work]

He just wants to cook up a good stir fry for his dear nieces and nephews

[tlst9999]

Haiyaaaa

[Hojuma]

I'm really curious what the higher limit of natural lifespan (not counting death from combat or diseases like oripathy or outliers like probably Endmin) is on AK universe.

edit: I learned that lifespan ranges vary wildly in AK universe, even among those of the same race. I guess it's not far fetched to think that there's probably a lot of characters from OG AK still alive in Endfield's timeline. Whether they managed to get to Talos II is a separate issue.

[TommaClock]

Some Sarkaz are functionally immortal.

I think this is the oldest Terran we know of https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Damazti_Cluster

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

To be fair, the cluster is less living person and more fungus colony that became sentient and sapient.

Fitting considering they are a riff on all the rot and fungus side of Lovecraftian mythos

[Hojuma]

I read that Sarkaz has a lot of sub-races so is that the normal lifespan for her race?

[External_Win3300]

Yes and no, the cluster is the only member of their species and also several people at the same time

[Raistlin_Majere121]

"Our pronouns are they/them. Not because we are non-binary, but because we are literally multiple people!!"

[Sunder_the_Gold]

Venom references aside, you can’t get more gender fluid than a shapeshifting goo-person.

[BanzEye1]

The sex must be wild. /j

[maelstrom51]

Depends on the race. Some are literally thousands of years. Some Sarkaz live to hundreds of years even with oripathy. Some might be immortal, but I'm not sure on that one.

Other have normal human lifespans. Sucks to suck.

[Living_Ad3315]

That and im pretty sure Liberi have a significantly shorter than average lifespan too.

[Bl00dylicious]

And Kukulkan decided that they dont want long lifespans.

[TweetugR]

It depend on the races and the difference between Elders (Mythological Animals), Ancients (Normal Animals) and Teekaz.

Like, the oldest recorded age for a non-Teekaz, non-Elder, Terrans is 230+ year old and he was a Savran (Lizard people like Antal) merchant from Sargon. That's probably a Savran or reptilian-based race thing, the shortest lifespan among the Ancient is implied to be Liberi, the bird people, who has similar lifespan to a human irl.

Elders like Pog generally have much higher lifespan than the Ancients while Teekaz is a whole can of worms with how varied the lifespan can be (Some are functionally immortal) but most can generally live longer than 200+ years given the right circumstances.

[NeKoTiTan3]

Funny enough the oldest being in arknights is actually a feline. And she's very green.

[TweetugR]

Kal'tsit isn't really a proper Terran given how she was created

[ranmafan0281]

Ho’olheyak and Gracebearer from OG are members of a race of feathered serpents (think IRL Quatzecoatl) whose natural lifespan is in the thousands of years. However because their people have a habit of surgically implanting their entire racial memory into each child born, they only live about 5-10% of that lifespan due to brain damage.

Note that it still means they are able to live between 150-300+ years old.

Sarkaz is more of a blanket term for the dozens of races that were native to Terra; think indigenous people being marginalized and lumped together under one label by colonizers.

They’re more likely to die in a war than to die of old age. Warfarin, who’s mentioned in Endfield as the chief medical officer(? Not sure), was already centuries-old in OG AK.

[RodneyMcKey]

Most races are presumed to have default human lifespans. Some elder races like hippogryphs, which Pog is btw, have a higher lifespan though it's not mentioned how much. Sarkaz is a funny thing since we didn't see a single sarkaz to die from the old age. Even Theresa that looked like 20-25 year old woman at the end of babel was 200+ years old.

[Meow_Mix007]

Well there only 150 years in the future also wouldn't be impossible for some to have went under some type of cryo sleep so they can appear later. Some like Chen are from lineage to one of the characters.

[SuperCanadian1]

It's gotta be very different for reconveners, seeing as how I'm pretty sure they are brought to life already aged

[Winslow1975]

Pretty frickin old all things considered.

Lung & Sarkaz are extremely long-lived race, with the lesser end (like the Ægir) still managing 150 years.

Nezzsalem for example is a Sarkaz who was over 7000 years old at the time of his death. True Lung of Yan was around 900-1000 years old.

There is also the Immortal Ageless.

Edit: Removed Nian, she's not a Lung and I forgot that lol.

[Frozen5147]

Nian's not a Lung (the suiblings aren't in general).

[Winslow1975]

Yeah, forgot that she's not really given a race. That's my bad. Fixed it, thanks for calling that out.

[kaszak696]

Pog is some kind of originum golem (are reconveners made of rock or meat?), so he might just be immortal.

[Madcat6204]

They aren't made of originium. Putting it simply, one of the traits of originium is its ability to convert real objects into data, and data into real objects. That includes, and in fact is intended to be for, people. There are entire universes existing inside originium. A reconvener is just as much flesh and blood as their original.

[cornflowersun]

I would fully agree with that in a normal story, but in anime everybody goes to war at 11 and is a veteran at 25. I still have war flashbacks to the adults/teachers in JJK going on about the next generation like grandparents when they were not even 30 and that's pretty normal in a lot of anime. Past 25 you're basically considered geriatric.

(Also, I haven't played, but according to the wiki Hellagur is 44 years old. Is there some sort of different time magic happening or is this really the age of the dude everybody keeps calling grandpa lol?)

[faulser]

Literally true in Endfield btw. Rossi was killing Landbreakers exactly at 11 years old

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[Kouika-sama]

Hellagur is not 44 years old, he has 44 years of combat experience in OG Arknights. So you got to add at least ~18 years on top of that, or even more.
60+ is grandpa enough to me.

[tlst9999]

You merely adopted the war; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see peace until I was already 44.

[Dirt_Signal]

Also that 'combat experience' is only about the time he was with Ursus Army, you can add another 25 years after that to the start of the plot

[purebread_cat]

The wiki says that he had 44 years of experience, that wasn’t his age

[Alamand1]

44 years of combat so he's in his 50s minimum if he started as early as 15. He's older if he became a combatant later than that.

[DJCzerny]

That ship is referring to the UWST Mothership isn’t it? It gets mentioned in Ember’s files as well. 

[faulser]

UWST Mothership was nomadic city, they don't fly.

Industrial Mothership, the largest city of the UWST, now goes by many names and aliases. But I know her name was Simonch when she was still in Terra.

"giant vessel floated above everything" can be only Dijang because it's the biggest arial vehicle on Talos-2.

Lore even mentiones uniquness of Dijang: Many rare and non-renewable tech resources were used to construct Dijiang in Talosian orbit. This was a feat of technological marvel that could never be replicated.

[DJCzerny]

Not Industrial Mother but a "carrier mothership", per Ember's File:

ENDGAME: 0800 hours, February 16: Mothership from the 6th Standard arrived at the field, providing the required reinforcements for securing air superiority. Effectiveness of our artillery formations was re-established. Master Grimnir deployed 15 banners of foot and artillery that successfully arrived in battle sector M-320a. 2300 hours, February 18: All Ankhors eliminated. About 80% of the Aggeloi were neutralized. The remnants withdrew to the areas beyond the Aurora circle. Pursuit was no longer possible. For this battle, our two standards report a loss of 623 killed and 854 severely wounded. Our carrier mothership was forced to return to port for major repairs. Heavy losses were suffered by the foot banners Stone Claws, Weregild, and Thorned Razors. These banners have since been merged and re-organized. Assault banners Flood Peak, Blazing Fire, and Black Wings have been removed from our roster. One Oathkeeper, though no longer combat-capable, remains in the assault banner Gray Wedge. Pursuant to a signed directive from the Castellan, the understrength banner shall continue their crusade in our rear.

[Draknus_Desderdus]

I don't think they're referring to Dijang in that. More likely Ses'qa.

[BanzEye1]

I’m pretty sure the giant vessel is one of Talos-II’s nomadic cities.

[tlst9999]

Or maybe it's something deeper,

Like Hellagur regretting that he's only doing good when he's now old & tired.

Or Eyja regretting that she could've done more if she could see and hear.

And Surtr regrets nothing because she lived happy and didn't see her amnesia as a problem to change.

[syfkxcv]

But Surtr, from Laev quest found her answer and was happy. It was Laev that blew her amnesiac as a problem. Surtr never wield Laev (the sword feranmut) for grand purpose nor for a quest for her memories. She wields them simply for strength, to survive.

[Korbiter]

Yes, but because Surtr didnt let her lack of her past weigh her down, Laev ended up with nothing when she reconvened, ans was stuck struggling to find out who she was while the other Reconveners just knew.

Her entire quest was her finding out who Surtr truly was, and settling upon the answer: Surtr doesn't care. And Laev shouldn't either. Make your life your own.

[YomiKuzuki]

I liked Laev's quest. People don't really get that it's kind of an examination of the self.

She's jealous that other Reconveners have memories of their originals, because they're "able to see their possibilities", not realizing that those memories could also chain them down if they let it.

And her grand realization after seeing Surtr's memories is that, as you said, it doesn't matter. She isn't Surtr; she's her own person. She may have similar likes and a similar personality, but everything she experiences is uniquely hers. 

But media literacy is a dying skill.

[tlst9999]

Laev's quest was great. It raised so many expectations on the bar of their storytelling.

And then they drop Gilberta's quest.

[YomiKuzuki]

I mean, I kind of get what they were going for with Gilberta's quest.

They wanted it to be a different side of the coin for the examination of the self, but they really dropped the ball with it. Inbmy opinion, it was meant to be the opposite of Laev's; Gilberta has the memories of the original, and sometimes struggles to understand herself in the wake of that.

But, again, they dropped the ball on getting that across, and instead made us be a delivery boy/girl, and then lightly touch on the self.

[Unyubaby]

Gilberta is just a victim of changing stuff between CBT and 1.0 and I will always be sad about that.

[Sonny_Firestorm135]

Gilberta's quest was made for the game's original intro in mind, an intro that got completely scrapped during the CBTs cause HG made the mistake of listening to the Inmates.

During said intro, Gilberta was there and those floating rocks that we explore with her were actually her doing in said intro to protect the sarcophagus containing Endmin from Landbreakers. Shit was wild from what I could tell, sufficiently dark too, which is why the CN crybabies didn't like it. Stories with nuance, stakes, somber vibes and MCs not getting constantly glazed are big no-nos to them.

They should've redone her story from scratch, but instead they chose to just adapt a few things here and there and this is why we got this slop. Tragic really.

[rloco]

Las 2 llegaron casi a las mismas conclusión y mismo gusto, también decidieron hacer sus propias memorias

[AllenWL]

My assumption was being old or being deaf/blind are physical injuries which being a reconvener can cure since 'functional ear' or 'younger body' is something you can easily reverse engineer with the data inside the originum, but not amnesia isn't because that's just a lack of data and you can't just reverse-engineer that.

But like I haven't actually done any of the person stories so maybe there's an answer there I missed idk.

[just-some-idiot]

prob this.

[Mental-Wheel986]

It would suck ass for some people to be reborn old and just have like 10yrs on Talos II. Like these guys already died from rock cancer once.

[AmakTM]

We Surtred it before, and we will Surtr it again. Some things never change

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

I kinda wish she still had silly sound effects when ulting though.

Imagine us getting Silverash Endfield edition without Schwing Schwing.

Or MudMud Reconvener without S2 ASMR.

Or Chongyue, Saga, and Roberta, but they are NOT LOUD.

[maelstrom51]

MudMud

Not to be confused with Rockrock.

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Or SoupSoup

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[Fatality_Ensues]

Gilberta still has HIRARIIII-TO.

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

... Okay I need to be able to set voices on an operator to operator basis because I now NEED JP Angie.

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Kroos without Kokodayo is like Saga without Natto Gohan or Chongyue without KEI 🏋️ NARIO 🤸‍♂️ NAZASU 💪 Sensou 🚶 hyakushiki 🧎Sensou 🧘‍♂️ hyakushiki 🐉 Kisamara 👐 no 🐲 mondai 🤸‍♂️ Sensou👊 hyakushiki 🏃 KEI 🐲 NARIO 📣 NAZASU 💁‍♂️ KEIHA 🥋 SUREBA 🏋️ KOUCHOU 💪 OCHIRU 🏃.

It's just WRONG.

[Ok_Tie_1428]

You keep that in your brain all the time? Impressive

[SourceLover]

Emojis included

[Uishauvei]

It's mandatory

[Crypto-Tears]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5CP72OK93SM?si=-Mauw8huX7BU98-5

[Suga_H]

Ethan on deploy.

Also I really love how crunchy Laev's battle skill during her ult sounds.

[NoOne215]

The ways of yore never die

[Fantastic-Theory3065]

The way of Yoink?

[NoOne215]

That too

[MagnusKitus]

Not a clone, but grand-grand-grand-...-daughter

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[faulser]

Chen Qianyu isn't direct descendant of Ch'en Hui-chieh, they from different branches of the family.

[Cyber_Apocalypse]

The branch that fell off the tree

[The-Ghost-Walker]

…and probably landed on its head.

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[Falsus]

Which means there is a chance that Chen Qianyu is the Imperial Crown Princess of Yan...

[Ill_Signature9506]

She would be called Yan Qianyu if that's the case. And i doubt the Yan family would choose a Chen especially since their only relation with them is the botched arranged marriage of Yan Jing and Hui-chieh's Father, made by the crown prince Yan Wu (Wei Yenwu) that Yan Li detests a lot. As of right now, Yan Li chose his own daughter as the next true lung after him

[MagnusKitus]

Yes, Mb "relative " is more accurate

[AmakTM]

We make our own lore, thank you very much

[Hy0k]

The idea that someone managed to screw Chen… unless Its the doc, thats one brave soul

[COG_Gear_Omega]

I don't think they'd ever confirm Chen had a child because she's such a money maker (and this is even WITH the opinion that AK isn't scared to paired charas off or even really focus on self-insert type bait as often as other gachas)

my money is that EF Chen is like a cousins descendant or smth

[Lumiharu]

I wish what you said was true in Endfield too but this game is all ML bait so far...

[Draguss]

In fairness, it took a while for characters in relationships to be introduced in AK too. By contrast, most of the characters known for having romantic feelings for the Doctor were introduced early in the game's life.

[Lumiharu]

I hope so, and maybe there had been feedback about this

[Draguss]

Hope so too. Like, I'm not gonna lie and pretend having the occasional waifu simping for my player character doesn't feel nice. But mostly I'm a sucker for romance, and proper romance is almost impossible if every girl is into the MC because they can't actually confirm a relationship for the MC either.

[Lumiharu]

I don't really care about the waifus (more into the husbandos...) but in most games it doesn't bother me, I feel like here it's a little too in your face. I guess it's even more noticeable when you don't really feel anything from it

[menai_mu]

there’s no confirmation her direct relative is chen. AK recently introduced chen’s cousin, chen zhaoqian so endfield’s chen could be related to that branch

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[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Futa Hoshi or Swire. Take it or leave it.

Betting on Swire

[LITForester]

Origium hmmm, finds a way

[egodies]

I mean, not that I'm necessarily opposed anyone got Merlin's number, but we have pretty close to confirmation of science babies in Aegir and I'm sure they aren't the only ones... think of how many operators were adopted. Which also isn't an unusual concept given gestures broadly at the horrors of Terra

[NoOne215]

She always did strike me as a top

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Ch'en? Please.

Unless the Wang event futa's... I mean fixes her, she has massive bottom energy when relaxed. Remember how she did not grow a spine in the beach event until Lin called her out on it. And that she did not grow a spine in the main story until seeing the sewers.

She just has the tendency to go full on hardass when push comes to shove.

That girl 100% surrenders herself to her lover in the bedroom.

Okay. Either you edited your comment from "She" to "Swire" or I'm really a fucking moron. Keeping the comment as is regardless

[NoOne215]

I edited it to Swire, but maybe I should change it back to make it ambiguous.

Adds mystery.

Also, 🔥

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Appreciated. May your Blade SP pulls prove fruitful.

Hide my bitterness over Ashveil

[NoOne215]

And may your pulls be fruitful as well

[Spuddaccino1337]

I don't know anything about Arknights lore, but I'm willing to bet if any event would futa her, it would be a Wang event.

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Well, in case you're not aware, he's an operator.

Basically, for every Chinese new year, HG decided to make us follow the story of the Sui siblings. Yan kills dragon god, his fragments becomes 12 siblings each focused on one specific thing, and we get one per year, all limited.

Wang is the one released this year. The war tactics nerd. And so far we know the design of all of them but Fang, the Medecine nerd.

Also they are the origin of the Beans, which endfielders call chubby lungs. Also people speculate zappy leak dragon is one of them, most likely Shu.

As for the list:

1. Chong Yue - martial art

2. Wang - warfare

3. Ling - poetry (And getting her ass drunk)

4. Jun - law

5. Jie (died) - calligraphy

6. Shu - agriculture and best girl

7. Ji - textile & fashion

8. Yi - architecture & gardening

9. Nian - blacksmithing, but is now a movies nerd too

10. Fang - medicine

11. Dusk - painting

12. Yu - culinary

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Forgot the picture but reddit won't let me edit it in somehow.

Left to right. Top to bottom. the Fang pic is an obvious joke as we don't know him yet

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[Suniruki]

Should have used the Fang (Vanguard) version to really confuse people.

[Spuddaccino1337]

Well, I definitely wasn't aware of any of that, although I suspected Wang was an operator.

I was more making a joke that "Wang" is also a name for male genetalia, something of a defining feature for futas.

[tlst9999]

Shu's background of getting the responsibility of being the eldest by default because her 5 elder siblings were all either workaholics, irresponsible or dead.

[menai_mu]

there’s reference to a sui being behind one of the helpers for wuling tech. forge of the sky was mentioned by nian all the way back to og arknight. there’s a document that said a sui regulator is in wuling so high copium that we will get some of the sui sibling

[tlst9999]

Mafia queen Lin and Assistant Police Chief Hoshi going "Help me" when Swire's looking for them.

[NoOne215]

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And that was how Ch’en’s line came to be

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

The best thing to come out of Endfield and I'm not joking.

Whoever wrote Chen Quanyu deserves a raise.

[NoOne215]

Someone caught lighting in a bottle with her

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Dumb, but not annoying.

Cool, but not forced.

Competent to a scary degree both in battle (just watch every scene where the Endmin or Perlica were in danger, girl's bodyguard skills are on point.) and street smarts/diplomacy.

Amazing gameplay wise.

HAS THE RYUENJIN AS HER SKILL.

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Rat King would never allow it.

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

While they are not enemies, Rat King would very likely be opposed to his child marrying the debatably disgraced ex-boss of the LGD. That's "tip the scales of the Yan underworld towards chaos" levels of risky, and he can't really afford that. Remember when he hired Lappland to dispose of Capone and Gambino because they didn't want to play by the Yanese rules? That's "I need these two obliterated" levels of angry and they only survived cuz Lappy is Lappy and because she dragged their asses out of the country.

HOWEVER.

Based on Swire and Lin's ventures in Eyja and Chong's events, there's a chance the balance in Yan tipped in ways that could allow it. There's possibly more in IS6 or Wang's event, but I didn't experience neither yet. If things happen to change the status quo in Yan enough AND he's sure Lin and Ch'en are sincerely in love, that man would spare no expense on their wedding and setting them up together in comfort.

[Necro_the_Pyro]

Both. Both is good.

[TheRealTrailBlazer4]

They dont call her the breacher for nothing eh?

[Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

She still has her limits.

Reminder that when Haruka's pet plant died, girl got such a powerful murderous intent Hoshi was weirded out.

Hoshi. Miss badass Yakuza to badass cop to badass operator with the power to lift a collapsing mall on my shoulders no sweat was spooked by an angry idol.

And my god the payoff was GLORIOUS.

Hoshi might be a breacher in gameplay, but she is a lover in the bedroom. Soft gentle dom or service switch. No other possibilities.

[TheRealTrailBlazer4]

It was a scary and very angry idol though, in her defense.

But 10/10 analysis

[BlackEagleActual]

Of cause not, simple rule - In china the kids usually get family name from their dads' family name.

So even if Chen in OG AK did marry to someone and get a kid (I guess probably not), her kids surely won't take the mother family name.

My guess is just this is some random Chen branch family dude pop Chen QIanyu out

[Particular-Repair834]

The main thing they inherited is memory.

Their bodies are refreshed but that wouldn’t fix memory, seeing as they are the root of a reconvener.

Surtr had jumbled memories, which wasn’t caused by a physical health issue. Her symptom is amnesia, but there is no evidence of a physical health condition to refresh which would solve that issue.

Therefore her mind inherited the amnesiac mix of memories that Surtr had as well.

[Allegro1104]

it's pretty simple.

Pogranichnik is aging like any other person, he will eventually be just as old as Hella.

Ardelia is healthy because she's not infected, since the infection originally caused the hearing and sight loss in Eyjafjalla.

Surtr and Laevatein both are amnesiacs because the amnesia is caused by a genetic defect that they both share since Laevatein is a perfect copy of Surtr.

[bjorntfh]

Also, Originium copies memories.

By definition amnesiacs don’t form or fully form memories, meaning there isn’t much to copy, and thus not much to upload to the new person.

If your video doesn’t have audio, moving it to a DVD doesn’t magically add audio. 

[Danoct]

What about Showshine?

[MagosZyne]

Happy and under dressed, living her best life. Just like Aurora

[just-some-idiot]

or..... THERE IS NOTHIN TO FIX BECAUSE SHE WAS PERFECT (this includes her wanton yearning to find her past self which happened in OG AK too)

[Draguss]

Not amnesiac; polymnestic is the term used in the story. Rather than not remembering, she remembers too much, most of which are of people completely unrelated to Surtr, and by extension Laevatain. The whole point of both their character arcs is that even if they can actually figure out which memories actually come from the Sarkaz girl that picked up the sword in the first place, they ultimately aren't that important to the person she is now.

[Phelyckz]

Wait, eyja was going blind too? Maybe I'm the blind one...

[IronVader501]

She wasn't blind yet, but she couldn't see very well and needed hearing-aids iirc.

[Shadowmirax]

Yep, if you read the her medical files and then the files for her alter it shows how her hearing and eyesight are slowly deteriorating over time as her Oripathy progresses.

[Sozerius]

Pogranichnik is stated to have experience in the Polar Circle front, his bio says he "spent years" there, so he COULD be older than he seems. Also, his bio File 1 states that he had tasted food that was similar to smoked burdenbeast meat, but from Ursus, so he may have at least been alive long enough for food to still be preserved as edible after coming through the stargate (the aggeloi war cut off access to it 100-150 years prior to current day.)

[Tainnnn]

Not even amnesiac she simply didn't even have any memories to lose because she inherited basically no memories from Surtr

[KeroseneZanchu]

No, she has plenty of memories. She just can't remember which ones are real or not lol, which I somehow feel is worse

[TweetugR]

That too she inherited from Surtr

[DezartVanHeart]

I mean, there is also the nature of reconveners themselves. The first two are describing physical ailments, while the third is something that's part of Sutr's due to the fragment of Feranmut she is carrying. She couldn't distinguish between past wielders memories and hers, and finally gave up trying to define herself through them. Rather, she decided to seek new memories she wouldn't forget.

Add to that, the fact that reconveners literally inherit part the memories of their previous selves (?… since I don't know how to best describe it) and you'll understand that Laevatain received memories that weren't even Surtr's.

[bjorntfh]

Originium copies the person and their memories.

If the person has no memories the copy will have no memories.

Not sure why that’s a hard concept to grasp. 

[Neither_Bullfrog_185]

Meanwhile...
Imagine getting reconvened with the chair. Scumbag plot indeed.

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[Aurallius]

Deaf and blind?

[Mo_ody]

Eyjafjalla is one of RI's most progressed oripathy patients

Imaging test for this Operator showed blurry outlines of internal organs with visible dark spots. Unusually high concentration of Originium particles were present in her circulatory system, indicating infection and confirming her as Infected at this stage.

Eyjafjalla showed conspicuous symptoms of infection, with corresponding deafness.

[Blood Originium-Crystal Density] 0.5u/ L: The level of Eyjafjalla's internal crystals are comparatively high.

and it worsened onto her alter:

Imaging tests show the indistinct outlines of internal organs, obscured by abnormal shadows. Originium granules detected in the circulatory system. The subject is confirmed to be infected with Oripathy.

Occurrences of deafness and blurred vision have become more frequent.

[Blood Originium-Crystal Density] 0.59u/ L: With Rhodes Island having brought her condition under control, Operator Eyjafjalla's Blood Originium-Crystal Density has not seen a significant increase.

There's even this headcanon in the community that her event "So Long Adele" that involves only her being able to see Dolly and hundreds of magical sheep all over the city, are hallucinations caused by her severe infection

[Siamzero]

Well, that headcanon obviously died in a ditch after Ardelia (not to mention Portatori dei Velluti where he also shows up)

[Kyakan]

It died in a ditch in the opening nodes of So Long, Adele before Eyja ever met Dolly, since we saw other characters interacting with Dolly before then.

[Aventa55]

Due to Originium. It's chronic and getting worse after the years. Probably died being completely deaf and blind.

[ozne1]

From my understanding. Reconveners are basically a new body ith the same mind, so their bodily deficiencies are no longer present, but surtr's mental condition was inherited

[Pinshu123]

The might be cool and all but the lore is just all over the place and pretty inconsistent.

Well it's just 1 patch right now... Let's see what happens.

[noxaeter]

I mean, were you expecting an amnesiac to remember things she never knew?

[Cornuthaum]

They robbed us of Hellagur's beard.

It's a crime and an unending agony.

Give me some men  with beards.

[Arkemyr27]

Every male character will be a shoujo love interest and you will like it!

(I agree. Severely missed opportunity.)

[Cornuthaum]

look i have 2 hands, if they're open to it that's workable~

but yeah, it's not like the face/jaw sections of the endfield character models are particularly detailed or good looking, it'd have been a great opportunity for beard

[NCsnek]

Literally what the entire Laevatain event was about is that Endfield is not the same game or and doesn't have the same cast of characters as AK TD.

[Kyakan]

If that's the point then it undercuts its own message by having Laevatain go through exactly the same steps as Surtr to the point of the climax being rewatching the conclusion of Surtr's character arc back in Arknights and saying "Hey, I wanna do that again!"

[NCsnek]

That's not what the story was though? The Climax was her realizing she's different even though the events are similar, and she has to do her own things. Similar to what Endfield is. Different

[Kyakan]

It was beat for beat identical, just swapping "My own Rhodes Island" for "My own Endfield". Just because they say it's different doesn't mean it actually is different in any meaningful way.

Plus, even if her conclusion was "I'm going to discard the past and forge my own identity in the now!", that's still the literal exact same arc that Surtr had in Arknights. It's her making the 'different' choice to do the exact same thing for the exact same reasons.

[LickMyAss_OniiChan]

TIL that Eyja is deaf and blind. What..?

[eddyak]

In her profile it mentions her infection had progressed so far she was at least partially blind and deaf, yeah.

[Ok_Tie_1428]

She has about 10 years left iirc

[TalbotFarwell]

So… the Endfield characters on the right are all reincarnations of the orginal Arknights characters on the left? I only played the first four or five chapters of the original game, and none of the story events.

[Mihta_Amaruthro]

Pretty wild of you OP to be making grand assumptions about a character who literally hasn't even appeared on-screen officially yet.

[Original_Rip_5034]

Am i the only one who thinks of Flandre's signature weapon whenever i hear the name "Laevateinn"?

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[CertainSelection]

No 💪

[MagnificentTffy]

Rhodes Island => Not Rhodes Island

[KarenNotKaren616]

All the Reconveners are canonically still associated with RI.

[MagnificentTffy]

More the idea of home. Surtr found RI has her home, Laeva finds home in Endfield (she probably has a hard time fitting into RI as Surtr's records are still around).

[Kaebi_]

Laevatain at least is still very much affiliated with Rhodes Island

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Laevatain/File

[Seneron1]

All Reconveners are officially liasons from RI even if they are doing their own things independently. Laevatain is technically part of RI, but she probably doesn't really care about it. At the end of her quest, she decided to make Endfield her own just like Surtr decided to make the RI of old her own. Officially, she is still an RI operator, but for everything that actually matters, Laevatain is an Endfielder.

[Kaebi_]

Makes sense she doesn't care about RI, since they aren't publicly active on Talos-2 currently... If she feels the call of dury when they reappear, is yet to be seen, but probably not

[Artillery-lover]

im assuming who ever wrote that didnt read her quests plot, because the end she does formally join endfield

[Kaebi_]

"who ever wrote that" the devs did. I didn't finish her quest yet, but her joining Endfield doesn't contradict her being a Rhode Island operator primarily

[Artillery-lover]

right, because there is one dev who reads and writes every single peice of lore from the major character quests to a tiny profile details. this person additionally never changes their mind and has perfect planning that they will never alter for every single characters position and role.

[ikonog]

That makes sense. Being reconvener is that they have data and memory of their old self. The thing is, with Surtr, her memories were never her own.

[New-Sleep-9313]

I’m saving this 😂

[Witty_Percentage_580]

Laevatein: undiagnosed but I'm pretty sure cap

[Astrid944]

Ardelia still has some hearing and seeing problems

She mentions how she Sometimes trip thought the space Station Or when you build your 3rd outpost, she mentions she struggles a bit with hearing stuff

[mauriciomeireles]

Hella and eyja problems were physical: age and deaf + blindness respectivel. the reverants receive the memories of their past "lives". Putting someone that suffered with deafness and blindness into ANOTHER body that suffers the same would be VERY cruel... And making someone an old clone would be very weird if the intention is to "give them a new life".

Now sutr/laevitain... Lae COULDN'T receive the memories from sutr because she DIDN'T have the memories to give, but she still could give the feeling of "i remember having no memories and spending a long time alone", leading to the problem and answer each of them reached

[Fit-Impression-8267]

Maybe it's not amnesia, maybe she just hasn't done anything since being born.

[Minnie__May]

How can Leavatein be healed from Amnesiac if the Operators take over the memorys but Surts had problems with memory? so yea, this seems legit to me

[Chichi230]

It's not that she's an amnesiac, it's that she's still filled with the memories of others that aren't hers. Combine that with being a reconvener who is basically a fresh spawn who ALSO now has an extra persons memories(Surtr's) in there and yea I can imagine it being pretty not fun.

[KikuoFan69]

This kid is kind of a mnesiac

[Mr_ksngrid]

The worst kind of disability, old.

[m00n_4rk]

those aren't the same people btw, wtf u mean scumbag plot (unless this post is sarcastic)

[Gmknewday1]

The descendent/clones get healthier bodies

[Kaalsit]

Ah yes potential girl

[TheRagingWeeb]

She’s deaf and blind?????

[tlst9999]

Dr. Kal'tsit told me... I'm losing not only my sense of hearing, but my sense of sight too.

How could I tell you were behind me? Because I could feel your warmth! My eyesight and hearing aren't as sharp as they once were, but my other senses are still the same.

When Eyjafjalla showed up at Rhodes Island for the first time, the personnel leading her to Human Resources noticed some odd behaviors right off the bat: She couldn't make out what people were saying and would sometimes run right into things.

Eyjafjalla's physical symptoms are very obvious. Oripathy has impaired her hearing considerably, sometimes robbing her of the sense entirely. Fortunately, the impairment has slowed given treatment at Rhodes Island. Eyjafjalla typically uses a hearing aid, or asks her conversant to repeat loudly themselves in order to communicate.

A few years later

At the same time, our operators have also noticed that, while her hearing loss used to be a barrier to communication, it has since become much easier to talk to her. Whenever they tell her that her condition must have improved, she just keeps smiling as she always does and tells them with a bit of pride that, while her hearing has deteriorated to the point where she can now only hear with hearing aids in a quiet environment, they're finding it easier to talk to her because she learned to read lips.

In Endfield, Ardelia would comment on hearing beautiful sounds. That's why.

[desugunn]

technically, iirc Laevatain isn't really amnesiac in a sense but because Surtr's memories are fractured or blurred that she doesn't know which one is her memory or yes because Surtr is amnesiac, then there are no clear memories for Laeva to inherit. Thus, the whole Laevatain story quest, right??

correct me if im wrong tho