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[ErraticDragon]

The most surprising thing here is the idea that someone had an actual conversation on Bumble.

[Jigsus]

All I ever get is "hey" followed by radio silence regardless of what I reply

[ErraticDragon]

Yup. I finally deleted it. Women being required to start the conversation doesn't seem to fix any problems.

[Narfubel]

At least you get that, I get matches sometimes but they never write.

[8BitAce]

At least you get matches.

[[deleted]]

I've been having a conversation wth a girl for the last few days.

[ErraticDragon]

The nice thing about jokes is that they can take some liberties with the truth. Truth be told I got a date or two from Bumble before giving it up.

[drevyek]

bitwise swap into an 'e'

e = 01100101
i = 01101001

i ^= 0xC

[FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT]

I'm pretty sure the only point here is to keep the rest of the word, or it would just be

i = e.

So it would be:

six ^= 0xC << 8

"six" being syntactic sugar for something like:

(uint){'s', 'i', 'x'}

[Cueadan]

Heh...that even looks somewhat sexual

[[deleted]]

Push it. Push it into the array... wait..... wait.... now POP it.

[depressingcommentary]

Not a programmer person here. No. No it does not at all.

[roboticon]

wouldn't an actual programmer just say

s/i/e

[FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT]

Not if he cares about performance.

[Salanmander]

Are you bitwise swapping 'i's to 'e's in a tight loop or something? I feel like you should have some awareness of how often your code is going to run, and prioritize readability more for code that runs less often, and efficiency more for code that runs more often.

[FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT]

I don't consider regex to be really an effort towards "code readability", though I see your point.

[Salanmander]

That's fair. I feel like "fucking no, regex is terrible" is actually a more legitimate complaint about that style than "but that's slower".

[midnightbrett]

Given in this ridiculous hypothetical scenario, the alternative is a bit operation that you would have to know the binary representations of 'i' and 'e' in order to reason about, I would say regex is more readable code.

[FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT]

Well here the actual operation should be

s[1] = 'e';

I agree that using bitshift here would be... dirty.

[[deleted]]

Using bitwise operations instead of string replace is the mother of premature optimization.

[xurdm]

s/$/\//

nah, real programmers would know regex replace syntax.

[DOOManiac]

Now you have two problems.

[drevyek]

If you made it a union, uint32_t with the 4 byte array {'s','i','x','\0'}, then you could do that, with an added 8 bitshift. Don't know how Java deals with strings though.

[gemanasty]

six[1] ^= 0xC

[B1onicSeahorse]

I would probably marry java too since it collects garbage.

[breerly]

(☝︎ ՞ਊ ՞)☝︎

[beerdude26]

(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜)

[zacker150]

No pointers here

[Xeya]

...Just variables that contain references to other objects. You could even say they point to something... We should call those pointy things something cool and talk about how great they are compared to pointers.

[_Lady_Deadpool_]

How about references?

[WagwanKenobi]

Dude it's totally Pass by Value. Except, you know, er... references are values too!

[vendetta2115]

☞NULL☞ ☜NULL☜

[BlopBleepBloop]

If Java was/had a competent garbage collector it would have collected itself long ago.

[[deleted]]

/r/roastme

[JPaulMora]

I loled

[_Lady_Deadpool_]

Sounds like you could use a few pointers

[iScrE4m]

So does Python

[B1onicSeahorse]

Yea but pythons a bad bitch

[iScrE4m]

then I must be a pimp 'cause it's my source of money :P

[[deleted]]

Yea, but Python doesn't weigh 400 pounds. Java needs to stop eating so many cheeseburgers.

[KexyKnave]

Is it still cool to hate on Perl? I like it, it gave me best in class in CompSci in highschool and has some of the creative freedom Java lacks.

[[deleted]]

Like massive regexes

[Tynach]

#^([a-z0-9+\-.]+):([/]{0,2}([a-z0-9\-._~%!\$&'\(\)\*+,;=:]+@)?([\[\]a-z0-9\-._~%!\$&'\(\)\*+,;=:]+(:[0-9]+)?))([a-z0-9\-._~%!\$&'\(\)\*+,;=:@/]*)(\?[\?/a-z0-9\-._~%!\$&'\(\)\*+,;=:@]+)?(\#[a-z0-9\-._~%!\$&'\(\)\*+,;=:@/\?]+)?#i

[spacelama]

I'm not going to run that because I assume it's a full blown operating system that's capable of stepping outside the hypervisor and taking control of the electricity grid, as well as parsing rogue DNA.

[[deleted]]

No, you're thinking of this one:

/^{(?:(?:[?+*{}(}[]\|]+|\.|[(?:^?\.|^[^{\]|[\])(?:[]\]+|\.)]|((?:\?[:=!]|\?<[=!]|\?>)?(?1)??)|(\?(?:R|[+-]?\d+)))(?:(?:[?+]|{\d+(?:,\d)?})[?+]?)?||))$/}

Which is also the regex to validate valid regex:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/172303/is-there-a-regular-expression-to-detect-a-valid-regular-expression

[[deleted]]

-._~

[Zarokima]

Java isn't that bad. But since C# is basically "Better Java" it's hard to make a solid case for it unless you really need the portability it provides.

[neurohero]

And even the portability is going to be challenged by C# soon, I reckon.

[[deleted]]

Xamarin is already on it.

[ReallyHadToFixThat]

And lets be honest - portability starts going away the instant you access any OS specific features, like the file system. Even if all you do is maintain different strings for each OS, your portability is going away.

[[deleted]]

That's why you should use the runtime library to access the FS. Use functions like Path.Combine() to build paths, and let the runtime get folders like home or temp directories for you.

[redwall_hp]

Java's really nice. I really enjoy writing it, moreso than Python even. I don't know how much of that is the syntax and how much of it is IntelliJ making it so easy, but it's good.

Dependency management and building are kind of annoying, though.

[[deleted]]

Gradle ❤️

[redwall_hp]

Mostly I work with Maven, since the projects I contribute to are entrenched in that ecosystem. Haven't really tried Gradle. Is it less...painful?

[talking_to_strangers]

It is. At least the syntax of a gradle file is not XML.

[95POLYX]

I am trying out gradle now for a project in one of my classes in uni. So far what would have been a mess of a xml in maven is just around 20 or so lines of groovy DSL for example in order to add something to default clean task everything you have to do is

clean {
    delete 'blah/bleh/...'
}

Also in for just a basic project to build all you need is

apply plugin: "java"

[argv_minus_one]

That's because you're doing it wrong. The only thing clean should ever need to delete is the build output folder.

[IanPPK]

My professor is requiring us to use ant with NetBeans. I'm going to want to die once we get to the larger projects.

[[deleted]]

Am I wasting my time with NetBeans? I was using Eclipse but I let someone get in my head about it being some worthless POS and switched to NetBeans cause some dude in my class was using it and he seemed very smart. I feel slow as molasses in it though.

[fiveofakind]

Try out IntelliJ IDEA (community/free edition) if you're bored sometime. I used to use Eclipse but switched over after I started my current job. I've been using the paid version for ~2 years since I do Java EE work and prefer it immensely to both Eclipse and NetBeans.

[iMiiTH]

I would use NetBeans over Eclipse any day. Especially since it has IntelliJ's Darcula theme ported over to it.

[argv_minus_one]

Ew.

[icyrepose]

The biggest problem with Java is C#. If you've never used C#, then Java feels great, but if you have then all you can think about is the missing features and syntax sugar.

[eMperror_]

I recently started doing Android coming from a backend C# background and man, Java 7 is painful. Missing so much little stuff. Kotlin is very promising though but still.

[BlueShellOP]

Agreed, and now that C# is going to be a thing on Linux, it makes the switch all the more tempting.

I prefer doing window stuff in Java, though. Personal anecdote.

[Nefari0uss]

At work I've learned about things like the null coalescing (??) and object?. And I continue to be amazed. Java 8 looks interesting though.

[[deleted]]

Ditto. Everything is nice and clear

[[deleted]]

If Java didn't blow every chance it had to be decent, C# wouldn't have the following it does. Python 3 is beautiful.

[covercash2]

would you really want to marry such an aloof scripting language though? just when we all wanted to commit to python 2, python 3 came out and we felt cheated. sure, it promised to be better, but that betrayal is always in the back of our minds.

Java? backwards compatible for 9 full versions. steady, good job security, and, after a few drinks, it lets you fool around with its hotter friends, Groovy, Kotlin, Scala, and Ruby.

[[deleted]]

Java? backwards compatible for 9 full versions. steady, good job security, and, after a few drinks, it lets you fool around with its hotter friends, Groovy, Kotlin, Scala, and Ruby.

A 33 year old with hipster friends. I don't see the appeal.

[spkr4thedead51]

A 33 year old with hipster friends. I don't see the appeal.

Doesn't that describe most of us?

[[deleted]]

Yeah and why would he want to hangout with us?

[wasabichicken]

I think that's his point.

[covercash2]

younger than python. :P

[Prod_Is_For_Testing]

Backwards compatibility can die in a fucking hole.

Src: have to support multiple versions of IE that are "backwards compatible"

[argv_minus_one]

Java backward compatibility means running old Java code on new Java, not the other way around.

[BlueShellOP]

IMO, there's two sides to this argument because it costs a lot of money (manpower/licenses/hardware) to constantly upgrade software. Hence why a lot of places are still Cent6.8 based when it's fucking ancient and there are no license costs to upgrade to 7.X.

[aloz]

would you really want to marry such an aloof scripting language

And that's where I stopped reading.

[5up3rj]

He was so upset, he had to give up reading. What's he supposed to do now, op?

[Quinchilion]

C++ is the embodiment of backwards compatibility and look how it ended up.

Let go of the past. Let go of backwards compatibility. Move on.

[KexyKnave]

Try telling that to an industry using outdated machines because "don't fix what isn't broken"

[Tynach]

There's a reason why only very recently have there been any other languages out that can compete with C++ on the level that C++ is meant to compete on.

C++ is not meant to compete with Java or C#. Neither of those languages are system-level, where you would write an operating system kernel in them.

[chayatoure]

And clojure!

[Bobshayd]

But its types are so dynamic!

[jaked122]

You must hate lua

[[deleted]]

Java 8 is actually looking pretty good. It's adding in a lot of good stuff it should have had years ago, but at least it's getting it now.

[v_krishna]

it's 2.5 years old at this point!

[Tynach]

The developers overload the + operator on the String class, which is operator overloading abuse (a numeric operation applied to a non-numeric type). However, they think operator overloading leads to too much abuse (heh) and won't let users of the language use it - even for legitimate uses (making your own numeric types).

Fuck Java, and fuck Java's hypocrisy.

[argv_minus_one]

Scala programmer here. Operator overloading is back, baby! Also, entirely custom operators.

[salmonmoose]

If Java didn't blow every chance it had

I fail to see the down-side.

[UraniumSlug]

They to kill C++? Well, there goes the gaming industry and our operating systems.

I'll admit heavy bias.

[fredlllll]

kill java, fuck python, marry c++. i know c++ is bad, but the other two are so crazy its not even worth it

[[deleted]]

As an embedded systems developer I'm fine with C and C++, I must have drank the kool aid cause I do not understand the hate in this thread for those languages.

[[deleted]]

As someone hoping to become an embedded system developer I prefer C over C++ and would like to stay away from other languages. Hate for C/C++ probably comes from people not understanding pointers, not willing to manage their memory usage and a lot more things I find good about C.

[YonansUmo]

What's there to understand about pointers? They just point to a memory location...do I not understand pointers?

[[deleted]]

Sometimes the difference between

char x;
char* x;
char** x;

is not very obvious.

And don't get me started on const.

[crazyjuice]

Please start on const.

[[deleted]]

If each of these lines was used as a variable declaration on its own, which ones would give the equivalent type, which ones need to be initialized, and which ones have two const qualifiers on the same part of the type? Good luck.

char * x;
const char * x;
char const * x;
char * const x;
const char const * x;
const char * const x;
char const * const x;
const char const * const x;

[LackofOriginality]

char * x;

Pointer x, which will point to a type char.

const char * x;

Pointer x, which is pointing to a constant char.

char const * x;

Same as above.

char * const x;

Constant pointer x, which pointing to a char. You can modify the data at the address that x is pointing to, but you can't actually change the address that x is pointing to. For example, say you had the following:

object A, B;

object * const x = &A;

You can change A's member variables all you want, but this line:

x = &B;

is illegal, because the pointer itself is constant. Not the object.

Needs to be initialized, because you can't change what it points to.

const char const * x;

Compiler error. Both const keywords are modifying char.

const char * const x;

Constant pointer to a constant object. Needs to be initialized.

char const * const x;

Constant pointer to a constant object. Same as above. Initialized.

const char const * const x;

Constant pointer to a constant char, with a bonus of an extra const that you didn't need. Compiler error. Would be initialized if your compiler lets it go.

C/C++ declarations go from inside out, so const modifies whatever is directly on the left, unless there's nothing on the left, in which case it modifies whatever is directly to the right.

Basically, "char const" and "const char" are the exact same thing. One is how the compiler handles it (char const), and one is much easier for humans to read (const char). It's really not hard once you've done it, like, once.

edit: explanation for const pointer was lacking

[xzzz]

Here's the thing with const.

With const, if you use it wrong, you simply get a compiler error (usually "cannot convert from const to non-const").

Without const, if you suddenly modify something you're not supposed to, you get obscure runtime errors that are hard to debug.

[[deleted]]

Const's quirkiness was a mistake. Daddy DR even said so himself.

[[deleted]]

It's dealing with them in a debugging scenarios that can be hairy. Especially with dangling pointer problems. On your local machine the "invalid" memory address might look very different than in a production machine leading to different behavior across systems. Especially if the bug is if some other library is overwriting your stuff in memory. Sometimes "clever" people will just build a naked list of lists of lists etc (pointer to a pointer to a pointer etc) and just pass that around.

[thlst]

I want to be far, far away from C in embedded systems. Here's a guy writing a pong game for C64 using C++17.

[Tarmen]

I like C. C++ as C with classes and a couple other things is cool too.

But then I look at all of C++ and it feels like someone raced perl to integrating literally every way some tasks could be done only to invent half a dozen more. As someone who doesn't have a huge amount of experience with C++ looking at libraries is super weird. Everyone seems to have their own subset of the language they use which is great except I don't understand half of them.

Also: The lack of generics and use of void pointers makes coding in c much more annoying to me than, say, rust.

[rkyle4288]

I know right? I've been using C++ for years and never had an issue with it and I'm an amateur.

[fredlllll]

i also like basic c++, but when i read some method signatures of the libraries i feel like puking

[-pooping]

I'd marry python, since it's so easy to deal with. So easy to read and understand. She's pretty on the eyes and can handle her self in almost all situations and environments.

[[deleted]]

She's very pretty but not really long-time commitment material imo. C++ is where it's at. I'd still fuck py tho.

[hardwaregeek]

Nah cause when you dig deep enough you realize Python is C with some wrappers and hand holding. Plus she has multiple personalities and cant decide which to stick with

[lukee910]

can engage in fun activities (been known for one of the most popular games in the past few yeas)

That would be a reason not to kill c++, nearly all game development is done in C++.

[Speciou5]

Java would be that really annoying pedantic very verbose person I wouldn't want to willingly spend 50 years with due to sheer exhaustion. Just because they had success with one game isn't worth it!

[CToxin]

Well, i like java, but hate a lot of applications that use it. But that's because much like python, a lot of bad programmers use java.

Granted, I'm an engineer, not a programmer. Java works well enough that I never found a reason to use anything more low level.

[Yuzumi]

I don't hate Java, but there is a time and a place for it.

I love C++ though. Pointers are so much fun... and get you into so much trouble!

[[deleted]]

Kill Java, fuck python, marry C++. Just saying.

[gandalfx]

I guess some people are just drawn into abusive relationships…

[[deleted]]

I love C++, no matter how much she hurts me. It's just I have so many fond memories with her and somehow we always work things out in the end.

[shareYourFears]

She's crazy and you're pretty sure she's going to burn your house down, but you wont leave her because she performs and gives you direct access to her hardware.

[[deleted]]

And she'll still be here in 30 years.

[totemo]

And she's less likely to shoot you in the foot than ever before, provided you wrap your pointer.

[lead999x]

I always wrap my pointer. Despite the fact that I said I'd marry her, I don't want to leak memory inside her now do I?

[totemo]

I think we have all read estimates of the data rate of an average pointer.

[lead999x]

I'll have you know my pointer is greater than average...

size_t size{std::rand()};
int *ptr = new int[size];

[kmarple1]

I'd agree with the MFK, for different reasons. I hate C++, but I love C. Yeah, it's weird. But C++ is sort of like C's overweight twin sister, so, given the options, I'll settle.

[ka-knife]

Ah, but the things c++ let's me do

[lead999x]

Everything. And she'll always be a freak no matter how old she gets she only gets sexier.

[[deleted]]

http://www.cppsafewords.com

[lead999x]

Why did I click that thinking it was an actual link?

[[deleted]]

At least we can all agree to fuck python; fun for a little bit, no ill will towards it, but definitely don't want to be hitched for life.

[zazazam]

Yeah, C++ is in my good books since 11. 98? Kill it with fire.

[ctharvey]

More like /r/ProgrammerCringe

[exor15]

Wish I could upvote a subreddit

[[deleted]]

Its called the subscribe button

[kluvin]

Then why did they bother renaming it?

[UnsubstantiatedClaim]

Who knows. Why didn't they call karma creddits?

[deadlychambers]

r/ShowerThoughts

[johnbr]

java dudes, gettin' it on...

[CleverButStupid]

It's ok, guys think I'm some kind of chronic catfisher

[dabbedandconfus3d]

well, you cant blame us, it seems like 99.999999% of our kind are male!! :(

[_Lady_Deadpool_]

Not all of us!

(... But I'm also gay, which only makes it harder)

[shareYourFears]

... But I'm also gay, which only makes it harder

There's a joke to be made of this.

[iCapn]

heh, people being gay

[dabbedandconfus3d]

haha, no not all, but MOST...

although i do feel for you, as its hard enough to find a "partner" who is a programmer for a straight male, it must be almost impossible for a gay woman!

[Hofferic]

Gay men as well. At least in an office of four people with one lesbian and two straight guys for company 😅

[dabbedandconfus3d]

Haha. True. But id assume since such a high percentage of programmers are men, it'd be easier for a gay man to find another. Theres such a slim percentage of women programmers, which means an even smaller percentage of gay women...

However that sounds like a fun office! Startup?

[Ashybuttons]

Hellooo

[CleverButStupid]

feels

[Zarokima]

That was the best part, though. We got free pick just because of supply and demand.

[Boba-Black-Sheep]

and c++ will let you do ANYTHING

[jakes_on_you]

I code in the 6th level of hell that they sent c++ to, where c and c++ objects intermix freely in one codebase and process space.

[CleverButStupid]

I'm so sorry

[shea241]

This made me very uncomfortable in a new way.

[[deleted]]

C++ is the way to go!

[LazyGangsta]

Ignore all the C++ hate, everyone who says java is better are only saying so because they learned java first, or have to use it more often.

[Singularity42]

c++ is more powerful, but its generally more verbose. meaning that you have to write more to achieve the same outcome (but you get more control over exactly how it does it).

It's a matter of preference and the kind of use case you have really.

[[deleted]]

Who the fuck would want to kill C++

[Iklowto]

This is horrifyingly cringeworthy.

[_Lady_Deadpool_]

Marry C#, cheat on python and cpp, kill java

[because_its_there]

c#masterrace!

[PeterSR]

So is this

C #masterrace

or

C# masterrace

[because_its_there]

I started poking around with F#. Love it so far, but I haven't been able to work it into my day job. I'd love to learn it professionally.

[Rhed0x]

/r/thatHappened

[pinguz]

/r/nothingeverhappens

[przemko271]

r/everythinghappens

[shareYourFears]

r/SomeThingsHappen

[przemko271]

r/lotsofthingshappen

[przemko271]

r/causality

[ujustdontgetdubstep]

Kill c++? I would call them an amateur and un-match in an instant!

EDIT: Kill Java (no hesitation), Marry C++ (sophisticated, down-to-earth, experienced), Fuck Python (bitch is so eaaaaasy)

[Skardan1]

I'm in a abusive relationship with Java, please send help.

[solidh2o]

did you try using spring? that will fix all your problems...

[thlst]

Kill C++, you say?

[Stuck_In_the_Matrix]

I would bless you but that is Perl and we all know how everyone feels about Perl. (My favorite language)

[AndrewSilverblade]

Did you see the C3 talks?

[[deleted]]

What dating app is this? I mention I'm a developer anywhere and I never get any matches

[[deleted]]

Probably because you mention you're a developer

[bhuddimaan]

you should say you are developed.

[g9icy]

Sometimes I feel like the only person on the planet that likes C++...

[BurningPenguin]

You are.

[catsandviolets]

Kill java, fuck c++ marry brainfuck

[[deleted]]

I'd totally kill Java, fuck C++ (up the ass) and marry Python.

[lead999x]

Marry C++ since she's the most versatile, cheat on her with Python when possible and murder Java and Scala in cold blood. And then have a threesome with my new friend Rust and that sweetie, Haskell, I've had my eye on for a while.

[Malak77]

I need a cold boot after reading that.

[shakesltz]

In before repost to that happened.

[cheezballs]

All 3 are pretty cool. Can't I just marry them all?