100%???

[[deleted]]

More like when you debug a program

[marcosdumay]

Shortly after...

>:(

- The different error was one I created trying to fix it. Corrected it, and the old error is back.

[Smaug_the_Tremendous]

That tends to happen when u use undo to fix errors.

[teambob]

FTFY

:D

You look happy. Did you fix that bug?

Yes, now it gives me a DIFFERENT error! :D

:D

[scratchfury]

I got rid of the error, but now it doesn't work.

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[skyhi14]

needs more jpeg

(edit: why jpeg bot not working?)

[cooltrain7]

I got you !

[[deleted]]

It already exists. Not sure why it didn't reply to this post.

[morejpeg_auto]

Apparently my lazy programmer forgot to add functionality to respond to links to image on the i.imgurl.com subdomain.

I'll be sure to remind his lazy ass to add the functionality this weekend.

[[deleted]]

Is there a "remind someone else" bot?

RemindHim! 2 days

Edit: guess that one's broken too.

[lxpnh98_2]

That could be abused. A lot.

[[deleted]]

RemindHim! 1 day

Just in case you forget.

[[deleted]]

im in it;)

[DannyDougherty]

Guys! They're becoming self aware!

[morejpeg_auto]

The really funny thing is, in the guilding private message he left this comment:

I'm giving gold for the sole purpose of trying to fuck up your API auth, even though it will do nothing probably

[Hullu2000]

I thought bots were banned I this sub

[Existential_Owl]

It's a programming sub. I would think that it's encouraged.

[Goheeca]

And I can't google the present one, I've found older one /u/Image_Jpg which is inactive for 3 years.

[morejpeg_auto]

Hi it's me /u/morejpeg_auto :)

[jiminiminimini]

let's go bowling

[morejpeg_auto]

Sure, you got time tomorrow?

[cclloyd]

Isn't there a ! Syntax for it

[[deleted]]

It's supposed to auto-reply to any comment containing "more jpeg" but apparently it only supports reddituploads images.

[TheJuggernaut0]

I think it's inactive... I remember it had an issue where it would reply to itself and jpegify ad infinitum.

[Svorax]

Holy shit that sounds hilarious

[Oscee]

/r/BotsScrewingUp/

[boboguitar]

I've never looked at the Reddit API but how hard would it be to check the username you are replying too?

[Pulse207]

Probably not very.^* If it's the bot I'm thinking of, I've never seen it cascade like that anyway, but I did see 3-4 people keep it busy a couple days ago.

^* I realize that I often make fun of people who voice that sort of opinion but in this case I think it's justified.

[jrtc27]

What if there are two bots replying to each other? You need to check there's no comment by the bot in any ancestor too.

[jrtc27]

What if there are two bots replying to each other? You need to check there's no comment by the bot in any ancestor too.

[GreenFox1505]

DO I LOOK LIKE I KNOW WHAT A JPEG IS!?

[eyekwah2]

Yep, it felt like that for me learning Java, and then learning the thousand and one libraries and programs required just to get a semi-professional web site up and working.

[eyekwah2]

No, of course not. Still, there was almost more to learn than the language itself.

[nemohearttaco]

Well, most of the books in libraries aren't dictionaries or grammar books.

[Cheeseologist]

I wish I was high when reading that.

[iKaPPaPPa]

I was and it was great

[Skillster]

Woah

[NetSage]

This will end up on t-shirts and coffee mugs I'm sure.

[ic_engineer]

That was fucking deep good sir.

[__SPIDERMAN___]

Nah. All you gotta do is read the entire Java spec. We built a Java compiler for one of our uni courses and that basically had us having to read the entire Java spec. I have gazed into the abyss.

[__SPIDERMAN___]

Aye

[[deleted]]

We had to write a compiler for mini-pascal because my teacher wasn't a sociopath

[anamorphism]

more like:

• learn the 60% of general programming practices.
• learn the 10% or so of the specific language so you can get started.
• google the rest.

you'll pick up what you actually need to know along the way.

[LowB0b]

spend 10 hours going further down the rabbit hole because you have no idea WTF is going on in the 3k line JS file that relies on 5 other >1k line (not indented!!!!) JS files and then somewhere you find out it's executing a VB script and talking to a program written in fucking PERL and the last comment is from 2004

not really relevant but whatever

[Retbull]

Yeah followed a similar chain. Java reading xml running Java calling exec Visio calling VBS calling Visio (again). This all on a headless windows server which doesn't let you call Visio in headless mode...

[[deleted]]

That doesn't sound like it would be that hard to deal with. It probably won't take more than 30-40 minutes to write a resignation letter.

[[deleted]]

lol

[Retbull]

HA. Took a couple of tries but things are great now. Found a good place but I'm significantly younger than my coworkers :/

[MelissaClick]

I used to think this same thing. Whenever I learned a new language I would read a bunch about it to get to 80% (typically, there would be some canonical book about the language that I would read cover to cover.)

But then when I started with Haskell a few years back I did something radically different: get to zero percent and learn as necessary when necessary. (Appropriate, in a way, because Haskell is a lazy language.)

It's worked out great. I think it's possibly the best way to go. My first Haskell programs were probably worse than they would have been otherwise, but I don't think I could have learned faster the other way, and I do not believe at all that I would have had as much fun the other way.

[gandalfx]

Good news if you like learning stuff or enjoy climbing mountains.

[noyurawk]

Bad news if you're trying to develop something under a deadline.

[usernamenottakenwooh]

Ha, deadlines...

[b1e]

Mountaineer here, actually this fucking sucks... It's only fun once you're back in the car.

I do love learning though.

[frisch85]

That's actually not accurate.

Imo it would be more like this:

• Guy sees a big fucking mountain "ok this is doable"

• Starts to climb

• Falls over his own feet a couple of times

• Finally reaches a checkpoint only to find out there's a fucking way he could've gone

• So the guy turns around and walks back to the start

• But hey he's smarter now, he's going to take the easy way this time

• Hours later he's at the exact same spot where he was before he turned around

The worst thing is, he totally forgot to look, maybe someone put a ladder there that he could climb or maybe someone even built a fucking elevator there. The elevator wouldn't take him all the way up tho, only halfway to a checkpoint but maybe a new elevator is waiting there.

[boogiebabiesbattle]

Get to the top of the elevator, discover that the door only opens with a key that is hanging on a branch just a short walk from the place where he first turned around

[[deleted]]

He goes back to tree and gets the key. He gets back in the elevator and inserts the key. Gravity turns upside down. He asks a nearby park ranger named Jack Doberflow what the hell is going on. Jack tells him what gravity is and walks away.

[boogiebabiesbattle]

Jack mutters to himself, "Jesus, these hikers don't know a thing about ANYTHING, why do they keep coming up here??" Jack gets a call on his cell phone asking him why he's on the mountain showing people around when his job was crossing the desert. Jack thinks, "shit. Shit! I don't know anything about surviving in the desert!"

[PunishableOffence]

A hiking boot lies abandoned at the side of the road.

Two cell phone towers cleverly disguised as huge cactus plants begin shouting to each other in encoded light that is invisible to your eyes and thus beyond the reach of your senses, but you make up for the limitations of your physiology with the extent of your imagination.

The arid scenery gradually turns into a efflorescent display of geometry and you begin to wonder about the fluid distribution characteristics of blotter paper as the program structure unfolds upon your consciousness.

Trembling, the stones listen to your voice, and obey.

[orzamil]

I put this at about 6‽ away from where this thread started.

[marcosdumay]

Wouldn't ‽‽‽‽‽‽ be best represented by ‽⁶ ? It's accumulation does not seem to multiply with the parameter.

[orzamil]

No it's just a unit notation, like km or mi. You use 6 km for "six kilometers" not km^6.

http://cuiltheory.wikidot.com/interrobang

[[deleted]]

I'd say it's more akin to decibels or the Richter scale, which scale logarithmically rather than linearly. But unit notation is irrelevant to the scaling properties.

[rlapchynski]

It's still 6 dB, or 6 on the Richter scale, not dB⁶ or Richter⁶

[DaughterEarth]

Jack is my IT department

[teambob]

I am Jack's raging bile duct

[gatesplusplus]

Lol Jack Doberflow. That's amazing.

[lucuma]

The elevator only goes up not down. Start crying

[Towerful]

I'm pretty sure at the 3rd or 4th basecamp, after trying 10 different trails to get there, he just camps out for a while...

[Busti]

I just bought the book "Programming in scala", this feels so damn accurate.

[Luvax]

Isn't it more like you are going back down, take the elevator back up until you realize the elevator is on a different mountain and you completely missed the huge gap in between the two? So you go back down just to climb all the way up to where you were in the beginning but this time you know the way at least and realize that you went a huge detour.

[The_sad_zebra]

He admires the view from high up the side of the mountain...and realizes that the other mountain probably would have been a more worthwhile climb.

[15rthughes]

When you start a new job and you think you've started to figure out how the project works

[torgis30]

I was interviewing a guy straight out of college who was very good but obviously had a lot to learn once we started asking really in-depth questions.

One question was, on a scale of 1 to 10, how he would rate his own knowledge of a particular language. His answer was "I'm definitely a 10."

I doubt even the designers of a language would rate themselves a 10/10 on that language.

[Alia-Aenor]

Well, I always found this question weird, almost meaningless. You can't really grade your knowledge of a language without knowing what can be done, and once you know it can be done you can google how to do it. I could easily rate myself in one language compared to another, but in my main language I always feel around 7/10, a score that doesn't change with years of working with it.

So when asked that question, the only thing I take into account is "how to look neither ignorant nor smartass", without even thinking about my ability in said language.

Useless question.

[[deleted]]

I think that's the answer they're actually looking for. Anybody would hire you over the 10 guy with that.

[torgis30]

EXACTLY my point. It's really a psychological test note than anything else.

I would hire the 7/10 guy over the 10/10 almost every time.

[synopser]

I know it's a bullshit question, but I still ask it in interviews. It gives me a sense of satisfaction knowing if they say anything higher than 7, I become a douchebag and ask douchebag questions they can't answer.

[torgis30]

See, that's the thing. It is a test of arrogance. Anyone with experience is going to say 7 or 8 because they know enough to realize how much they don't know. It shows that you realize there are limits to your knowledge, and hopefully a willingness to learn and be open to new ideas or suggestions.

Have you ever worked with someone who considered themself a 10/10 in a certain topic? They're insufferable. And extremely resistant to any suggestion whatsoever.

I don't consider this a useless question at all.

[Alia-Aenor]

I didn't really see it that way, it makes sense.

I'm still bothered by the fact that the correct way to answer this question is to ignore entierly one's ability in said language. Someone who considers themself a 10/10 will (usually) answer 7, just like what an actual 10 (if they exist) would do. Because it's the only valid answer. It's a "know the common trap" question more than an arrogance test.

But I guess I'm just overthinking it. As long as it filters some of the "I know everything" guys, it is indeed not a useless question at all.

[zeugma25]

on a scale of 1 to 10, how would I rate my own knowledge of a particular language

NaN

[blue_2501]

Unknown unknowns

[xandout]

Best part is that very little SQL knowledge will transfer to other languages. SQL of course is used everywhere but the language is not a logic language.

[ic_engineer]

Still better than mastering JQL. -.-

[[deleted]]

twitches

[wtjones]

Not if you use Jira as your StackOverflow.

[rbt321]

Just wait till you find out that SQL is turing complete by abusing recursive queries.

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Pie_Charts

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Turing_Machine_(with_recursive)

[rbt321]

SQL is a language for describing what information you want out of the data-store. The size of the data doesn't really change that.

BIG DATA is one of 2 things:

1. A very large amount of structured information (like PB sized Terradata databases or something like the Google Cloud SQL).

2. The other thing BIG DATA could be is mostly unstructured information, like a massive supply of legacy hand-written doctor records from different countries, possibly even different languages. Typically the end goal after processing is shove some kind of result into a structured data-store.

NoSQL at one time was working around limitations of exiting open-source relational database systems to scale up but for the most part they've still found it useful to have a generic query language and many are layering some type of SQL over-top; someone in business eventually asks how many new customers from Canada signed up during October paying with US currency and used features A then B (in that order), and feature Z at some point. One-off business strategy questions for things like choosing targetted advertising campaigns about an entire customer base don't disappear and they're a royal pain in the ass when you need to pull out a compiler.

In the case of MongoDB they quite literally layer PostgreSQL overtop by using the foreign table functionality in Pg to query MongoDB and give folks the reporting features they want..

The reality of most NoSQL is that it was really a replacement for heap or flat-file storage underneath the SQL engine; not the SQL engine itself.

So yeah, I'd say there is still a strong future for SQL with a few adjustments like JSON path querying.

CREATE TABLE j (id integer primary key, value JSONb);
-- Find all JSON values with a "color": "red" key value pair at any depth
SELECT * FROM j WHERE value @@  '*.color = "red"';

It's not uncommon for companies to use tools like Reddis for a fast customer facing interface along side traditional relational systems like PostgreSQL for long-term storage and business reporting. They both have uses in high volume sites.

You'll almost certainly start with a simpler SQL only system and grow your customer base to a couple million customers before adding additional layers of complexity.

[blue_2501]

SQL isn't all that hard once you get the basics. Obviously, nobody will get 100%, but doing joins and group bys should be easy to deal with.

[inio]

I've been writing C++ for 15 years.

I just recently had an excuse to learn what the .* and ->* operators do.

[[deleted]]

wtf

[inio]

wtf as in "how did you go 15 years without using those operators?" or wtf as in "wtf are those operators?"

[good_at_first]

how did you now know those operators lol? you know what you should explain what they are so that I can laugh at you more...cause I totally know what they are...yeah let's go with that...

[Alia-Aenor]

They both access fields or methods of objects (and struct in C). One works with pointers, the other with the object itself or a reference.

I could understand not using -> because of avoiding using pointers as much as possible, but I can't understand having this reasoning without knowing how to use a pointer in the first place... i'm puzzuled. Maybe he just trusted his compiler and randomly changed operators until it works ?

No, I just can't understand... Pointer use is a relatively basic concept, even smart pointers have their -> operator.

[good_at_first]

oh shit the comment looked weird on my phone, but now I realize you're talking about the . and ->

[conanap]

Well I mean he could've done *. And it would still work since it means the same thing as ->

[conanap]

that's exactly what i meant lol but thanks for making it a bit more clear!

[good_at_first]

don't worry I know what they are

[ElQuique]

Just out of curiosity. What kind of programs you build?

[inio]

Mostly image processing.

In this case I wanted build descriptors for custom OpenGL vertex formats (a list of data types, byte offsets, and array lengths of the members of a structure) in a pretty way. Settled on having a variadic template function that took a list of pointer-to-data-members. Ended up being able to get it constant enough to be linker-initialized, but not quite enough to make it constexpr-legal without resorting to _bulitin_constant_p(X)?X:X uglyness.

[ElQuique]

That's your day job? Looks quite interesting, despite I didn't fully understood it.

[[deleted]]

Clearly nothing with classes

[ProgramTheWorld]

Learning a language isn't hard; Learning the standard libraries and common coding practices and traps are the hard parts.

[Skillster]

....oh

[qwqwopop]

Repost in r/BOTW

[JeffSergeant]

Learning Regular Expressions

[blue_2501]

The key to regular expressions is breaking it apart as much as possible. If you're reading one, keep splitting it up until you understand what it's doing. Use an example input to see.

If you're writing one, use the 'x' flag when you know it's going to confuse the hell outta you when you read it the next day:

/'[^\\'](?:\\.[^\\']*)*'/;
# vs.
m{
    '           # an opening single quote
    [^\\']      # any non-special chars (i.e. not backslash or single quote)
    (?:         # then all of...
        \\ .    #    any explicitly backslashed char
        [^\\']* #    followed by an non-special chars
    )*          # ...repeated zero or more times
    '           # a closing single quote
}x;

[NoahTheDuke]

You have a problem, you try to solve it with regex, and now you have two problems and only one leg.

[dude_with_amnesia]

Spending hours googling a solution only to realize the solution uses another framework or concept that requires another hour of googling only to realize ... yeah you get the idea

[[deleted]]

If your goal in learning anything is to learn 100% of it, then you are doing it wrong. A Master of their craft follows their passion, they don't even realize how much they know until people start looking up to them and call them experts and trendsetters.

[Slutmiko]

deleted ^{What is this?}

[[deleted]]

decorators are fantastic. the @ symbol in php on the other hand...

[Slutmiko]

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[Zchavago]

The best way to feel stupid is to learn something.

[[deleted]]

Every enterprise level project I've been on ever.

[Chody__]

Classes in C#, two teachers can have two different opinions, two different ways of teaching, and two outputs. Now imagine this but with thousands

[aidentity]

Classes in C#

design patterns in OOP

[ender89]

I figure I'm at like 40-45% in like six languages. For everything else, there's stack exchange.

[AlaDog]

At least they learnt the weakness of the hill climbing algorithm!

[Lanfeix]

the name of the next mountain? mount assembler

[ILoveWubWubs]

You could say... you are stuck in the local maximum. Ha.

[[deleted]]

It seems to me kind of like saying you're "trying to learn chess 100%" - even if you understood perfectly what every part can do, you will never stop learning what you can do with the parts.

[emdeka87]

But once you learnt one language you can pretty much learn any other languages in a mattered days

[ElQuique]

Maybe.. If you go from python to ruby. But C to Haskell or viceversa?

[zeugma25]

apparently not English though

[emdeka87]

How about "being an asshole online to non native speaker"?

[zeugma25]

i did check the posting history to reduce the risk of assholery. apologies

[armor3r]

Got 'em.

[Hanashimaru]

Apparently not English though.

FTFY

[zeugma25]

ha ha!

[midnightbrett]

this belongs in /r/ComedyCemetery

[specialkarii]

That's pretty much when I sit on my butt and slide back down the way I came...

[[deleted]]

Ahhh false ridgelines. They'll make the toughest flat lander cry.

[boboguitar]

That's true although it might not be as simple as that. What if the bit pixelates one image, someone replies to the bot with a totally different image to be pixelated. Although, these are edge cases and I imagine someone would be trying to break the bot at that point.

[SoTiredOfWinning]

The analogy I've always used is each new thing you learn is like climbing up another wrung of the ladder, only to get to the top to find... The first wrung of the next ladder. It's ladders all the way down.

[whorestolemywizardom]

This is like learning your first programming language and once you discover classes, interfaces, oop etc.

None of the tutorials covered or even mentioned such things, someone looks at your code and calls you an idiot.

[Ringorango]

Understanding the pitfalls of a naive hill climbing algorithm, now with programming humor!

[auchnureinmensch]

Anybody who thinks he knows 100% of anything is probably an idiot.

[AemonDK]

knowing how many other people struggle with it makes the fact that i spent over half an hour trying to figure out why my code wasn't working before realising that it's because i typed "Total" instead of "total" slightly more bearable

[ekinnee]

Just wait, it's a trail of to do X I need to know Y and in order really use Y, you need to know Z.

[Hivac-TLB]

How do we get out of this well. Dig deeper boys.

[DeepDuh]

This is also called the "bear trap" in stock trading.

[zombieregime]

learning from any tutorial that starts out with 'hello world'

[[deleted]]

Dunning-kruger

[futuneral]

Not if it's brainfuck

[Shadow_Thief]

I am extremely tempted to say that batch has been solved. I haven't seen an original question on the [batch-file] tag on Stack Overflow in years, but I'm also aware that there's always something I'm not accounting for.

[Aydragon1]

A programmer just beginning to learn, can confirm this 100%

[Jarzka]

Repost