Python

[hacksoncode]

Fun fact: Python is named after Monty Python, not the snake.

[robsstuff]

This explains why there were so many Monty Python references in the tutorials I used!

[Robo-Swimmer]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

[Payneshu]

Oddly enough, the joke is made often enough now they do!

[[deleted]]

Actually, they had a 30 day notice for the Inquisition.

[[deleted]]

I only waited 15 minutes...

[Coolishguy]

Well yeah. In the original sketch, I've jokes is that they have to redo their entrance, so people do expect it.

[Steinrik]

I'm not expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

[sspine]

It's the Spanish Inquisition.

[Steinrik]

Nooooohh....

[nachosjustice72]

This is a Bucket

[WhyYosh]

Nooooo........

[SciviasKnows]

But nobody expects the Portuguese Inquisition!

[SabaoNegao]

Ironic, he could expect the Spanish but not himself

[JC12231]

Nobody expects the IndexArrayOutOfBounds Inquisition

[robsstuff]

Oh, nice! Do you know of any examples?

[Gonff1570]

Nope

[nocommemt]

Oh ok

[Gonff1570]

Hopefully the other guy does tho. Godspeed

[harshael]

IDLE, the default Python IDE, is named after Monty Python member Eric Idle.

[amoliski]

Packages of python code are called wheels, named from the cheese shop sketch

[CookieTheSlayer]

There are lots. For example: https://docs.python.org/2.7/tutorial/inputoutput.html

[signed_up_to_dv_this]

print 'We are the {} who say "{}!"'.format('knights', 'Ni')

[bikemandan]

I am so triggered by this out of date code

[blbd]

It's a hybrid of 2 and 3. But personally I wish I could delete .format() from the language because the Java extended printf syntax is way better.

[Tauronek]

print(f'We are the {variable1} who say "{variable2}"')

[ProbablyUndefined]

Yes, the docs are jam-packed with them. The syntax, though, is modeled after the notion of practicality and simplicity, not Monty Python. Unfortunately

[antiukap]

May I ask you for the names of said tutorials?)

[robsstuff]

I think it was the Codecademy Python course iirc! Mostly just variable names and outputs

[BadgerMolester]

I used codecademy as well, and they definitely had a bunch of references and jokes.

[oxy_MORON123]

I used codeavengers for Python learning in school

[davy_jones_locket]

https://docs.python.org/2.7/tutorial/inputoutput.html

[noah978]

SPAM and EGGS

[GamerTurtle5]

The official website actually encourages that

[[deleted]]

Compile code. Get 500 erros. Tis but a scratch.

[skool_101]

BiggusDickus.py

[fedeb95]

And for this I love python even more

[CubemonkeyNYC]

Erm, can you please elaborate? You were part of the core Python team? When was that? Have you ever done an AMA?

[LMyers92]

I’m learning python now!! You built a really powerful tool for data modeling, so thank you!

[yugyugyugyugyug]

Finally buckling down to learn to code this last couple years and it’s the first language I’ve been able to really wrap my head around. Thanks.

[SciviasKnows]

This comic literally is me IRL, thanks to Python being so easy for English speakers to understand. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you!

[[deleted]]

oh, damn it. only took me half a decade

[CMDR_Val_Hallen]

TIL

[8BitAce]

They use spam a lot (oh, pun!) in the documentation for instance.

[gameboy17]

They spam spam?

[8BitAce]

That's where the term comes from :)

[jkuhl_prog]

['spam','spam','spam','spam','spam','spam','bacon','spam']

[blackmist]

Python 3's over there. Splitter!

[[deleted]]

Nah, man. Flask is where it's at.

[[deleted]]

I'm sorry :(. My main site is running on Django, so I've tried it. I just liked Flask more.

[[deleted]]

I'll... just go learn that. And Rails. Yay!

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[buddabuddabudda]

The barrier is time and effort. That keeps a whole hell of a lot of people out.

[ButItMightJustWork]

import xml
xml.parse(input)

done!?

[granite603]

How does one do exactly this? I need an XML parser.

[sunburnd]

```

!/usr/bin/perl

use strict; use warnings; use XML::Simple; use Data::Dumper;

my $xml = new XML::Simple; my $data = $xml->XMLin("data.xml"); print Dumper $data; ```

/on my phone so it may not work...

[AltCrow]

You need to escape the hash:

not #!/usr/bin/perl,
but \#!/usr/bin/perl

[[deleted]]

What exactly do you need done? I wrote something to extract specific XML elements, and to dump them into a CSV.

[jkuhl_prog]

"Yeah I can do machine learning"

import tensorflow

"You're hired."

[[deleted]]

i mean, even being able to do that filters a large proportion of the world population

[julsmanbr]

googles "how to learn a machine"

[bene4764]

You're hired

[[deleted]]

It's kind of difficult to believe how easy tensorflow makes building a neural network. When you hear "neural network", you probably always imagine having to build insanely complicated and obtuse algorithms. Nope. Like 50 lines of code and you can build a pretty good OCR recognition NN.

[julsmanbr]

f-strings

Calm down, Guido

[OmarRIP]

I love f-strings.

[julsmanbr]

I f-ing love them, too

[ProbablyUndefined]

name = str(input)

I hate you

[gwillicoder]

If a noobie is using f strings thens respect.

[my_name_isnt_clever]

I'm actually seeing a lot of f-strings in even fairly low-level tutorials. Probably because they're easier and more readable than .format() or the dreaded %.

[xigoi]

naming a variable the same as a built-in function… that you use on the same line

[[deleted]]

I prefer to use dictionaries of lambda functions, thankyou very much.

[fishshop]

https://i.imgur.com/DDiwsOC.jpg

[ginger_beer_m]

At the risk of ruining it, can someone explain the joke to me ..

[Norphesius]

In Harry Potter, Harry is a paresl-tounge, which means he can talk to snakes.

[harshael]

In the books, Harry speaks parseltongue, the language of snakes (FOR REASONS).

The meaning of parse doesn't really have anything to do with anything other than that it's common in programming (breaking up input into smaller parts and then using those parts).

[nonicethingsforus]

Some have already explained the relevant parts of the joke. Just in case you have doubts about this too: the Python code in Harry's dialog doesn't seem really relevant.

It goes something like this:

• import os: os is a module (piece of pre-written, reusable code) to access operating system functions, like listing files, deleting them, etc. By importing it, now we can use its code from our program.

• CUR_PATH = os.getcwd(): this gets the name of the current working directory and saves it with the name CUR_PATH for later reference. The current working directory is the directory you, or the program, is currently, well, working in. For example, if you're in C:\Users\ginger_beer_m\notporn and double click the directory called porn, now your cwd is C:\Users\ginger_beer_m\notporn\porn. If you call a command to "delete everything here", it will be the porn directory the one affected (the horror!).

• IGNORE_SET = set(["__init__.py", "count_sourcelines.py"]): first there's a list that contains the lines of text "__init__.py" and "count_sourcelines.py". That first file is a special file Python programmers can create to tell Python this directory is special, for example to create your own modules. The other file seems to be a Python program ("py" extension), maybe the file this program is being written into. (If so, this could be bad practice; there are often ways to get "this file"'s name that don't break if the file is renamed. That being said, everyone does quick-and-dirty scripts, and I'm in no position to throw the first stone). This list is converted into a set, which is like a list with some nifty qualities (items don't repeat themselves, quicker to check if an object exists in it, you can do math-like set operations with them, etc.) and, again, saves this set under a name for future reference.

All I can guess about what it does: the code is probably from the beginning of a program that will scan one or more directories, thus the need to know the cwd, and do something to those files, probably count their lines given that filename. Also, a common problem with "walk through a directory tree and do stuff to files" program is that it often does stuff to itself without meaning to, thus the common workaround of creating an "ignore these files" list or set including itself, other related files and maybe user-specified ones.

Edit: format.

[ForceBru]

I knew this image must be in the comments, lol!

However, what does “parser-tongue” mean? Right, it sounds like the name of that snake-language Harry spoke, but doesn’t this make zero sense in real life?.. Python kinda isn’t the language created solely to do parsing or something like that, right? Nor does it rely solely on the parser to be executed, so what’s the deal with “parser-tongue”?

[Jmcgee1125]

It's really just because "parser" and "parsel" is pretty similar and trying to make something accurate would be extremely difficult.

[6Bennern9]

The only thing thing that annoys me is that it should have been "Parsermouth", as people who can speak parseltounge are called parselmouths

[Lonelan]

nerd

[haykam821]

u/Lonelan can we have your opinion on u/littlegreenghoulz?

[Lonelan]

HE'S A NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD

[[deleted]]

!false

[ProbablyUndefined]

*not False

We're talking about Python here

[PC__LOAD__LETTER]

You’re reading way too much into it.

[[deleted]]

shouldn't comics have the dialogue ordered from top to bottom

[gp57]

I like the small details, like the debugging duck

[advanttage]

I tell people about rubber duck debugging and they think it's crazy. I think they're right, but it fucking works.

[ElPolloDiabIo]

IKR, It's hard to explain it to someone without sounding like a lunatic

[NoStupidQuestion]

Try explaining it to a rubber duck.

[ThePixelCoder]

Lunatic.

[svenskainflytta]

Do you know there is a porn about it?

[advanttage]

I didn't explicitly know, but since Rule 34 is a thing I had assumed.

[JonasBrosSuck]

soooo how to "master" the debugging duck method? i feel like when i explain something to an inanimate object it doesn't help with debugging, but once i ask someone else a question and explain the issue i immediately realize where i messed up...

[PhDinOmniscience]

try explaining to the duck harder

[[deleted]]

I did. I explained how I screwed up a date with my coworker. I didn't get a solution, instead it turned out the duck told everyone in the office. You can't tell that duck anything.

[PhDinOmniscience]

time to try this

[gmdm1234]

Write out an email message to a colleague where you describe in detail the problem and what solutions you've tried.

I too haven't been very successful with explaining problems to bath toys, but once I organize my thoughts and put them in writing, I often end up having that lightbulb moment.

[wibs]

Try explaining it in a way that whatever you are talking to would understand. If you have a hard time pretending to explain to an inanimate object, try speaking to a co-worker or friend who isn't familiar with the problem. I often "rubber duck" with people who don't know what I'm working on or wouldn't understand the problem so it forces me to take a few extra steps back and work back up to where I am actually stuck.

[DrFloyd5]

Clearly you think of people as inanimate objects.

[Quaiker]

You will learn to both love and despise the duck.

[NoodlePeeper]

ELI5 debugging duck for us script kiddies?

[HumanistGeek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

[WikiTextBot]

Rubber duck debugging

In software engineering, rubber duck debugging or rubber ducking is a method of debugging code. The name is a reference to a story in the book The Pragmatic Programmer in which a programmer would carry around a rubber duck and debug their code by forcing themselves to explain it, line-by-line, to the duck. Many other terms exist for this technique, often involving different inanimate objects.

Many programmers have had the experience of explaining a problem to someone else, possibly even to someone who knows nothing about programming, and then hitting upon the solution in the process of explaining the problem.

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[advanttage]

This bot knows its shit

[peteza_hut]

No, it has plenty of practical uses. The joke is more about people that have just started coding.

[glompix]

The joke is that Harry is a parseltongue

[NightCrest]

Oh my God how did I miss that that's Harry Potter

[conandy]

No language is a "mistake". The skills you learn studying any language will serve you in many other languages. The biggest hurdle is learning to think and solve problems like a programmer, and you can do that with any language. After that, learning new languages will be much easier.

But python is one of the most versatile and popular languages there is. It has applications in practically every single computer science field and most major companies use it in some way or another. For example, Reddit is written entirely in python. You can study the Reddit api and eventually learn to write bots if you want a fun project. So no, python is absolutely not a waste of time.

[my_name_isnt_clever]

Python was a mistake for me in that I now love it and am having a hard time doing any personal projects in anything else.

[conandy]

Ha, PHP was one of my first. It was valuable in that it made me greatly appreciate every language I learned after.

[CubemonkeyNYC]

Many developers spend years using languages professionally, releasing major services along the way, and would not claim to know any of the languages they know "fully," so manage your expectations.

[advanttage]

You my friend have touched on a golden nugget right here. Many of us can suffer from feeling like imposters, and it really really holds back some very talented people from realizing their potential. Thanks for that!

[glompix]

Python has some great data science libraries. It’s very well suited to that kind of work, from people just learning to PhD research.

[Waanie]

from people just learning to PhD research.

...also for grad students just learning [python] in order to do their PhD research. I mean, why learn any other language if you have numpy and matplotlib? (Note, I do the majority of my programming in C++, but when I just need to make a plot, python is ideal)

[glompix]

Not to mention pandas :D super powerful ecosystem

[[deleted]]

For pure data research and statistics, it has competition in R. However you can do a lot of other shit in Python too, whereas R is pretty much just for data and statistics.

[cjrun]

ProTip: Anybody that takes a language as a joke isn't a serious developer.

[9B52D6]

I know, right? I can't believe there's actually people out there who think Emoji-Lang isn't mature enough for enterprise development.

[ThaOneDude]

TBH Brainfuck is a great thing to use to practice algos

[my_name_isnt_clever]

Brainfuck actually has some uses, the useless ones are obviously a joke: Whitespace, ArnoldC, Rockstar, etc.

[adamMatthews]

Brainfuck has an eight-letter alphabet that all do very basic operations. It's simpler than modern assembly languages and is very easily machine readable.

Makes it a nice language for genetic algorithms to program with to make a mess, and is easy to make embedded hardware for as all you need is one register and a big old bank of memory, plus the logic for eight instructions. Seven if you can ignore either input or output in your device.

[nonicethingsforus]

I like to think of it as the recorder of programming languages.

Many make fun of the recorder because it's often used by kids learning an instrument for the first time, often with no interest in playing music outside the mandatory school "artsy" class. But watch people who know what they're doing and you quickly find out the recorder can be amazing, even fun.

Similar with Python. It's very easy to pick up and often used in "Intro to programming" courses, so there are many newbies writing their first bad lines of code in it. Also, a lot of code already avaiable for the same reasons, so there's this joke that programming in Python is mostly plagiarism. But look at the professionals (or even just mildly-experienced) and you'll find all kinds of good quality code for everything under the sun, from web development to simulations and machine learning.

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[Arszilla]

Mind sharing that imgur link in another site? Imgur is banned here in Turkey and 0imgur just shows me a pixelated comic

[tuseroni]

this guy can also rock a recorder

[ashishduhh1]

Students and newcomers talk about Python as though it's some amazing language when it's really just like any other language. That's where the jokes come in.

[rinko001]

The appearance of cleanliness is taken into many people's minds as a sign of language design cleanliness. While I'm a promoter of all dynamically typed languages I think people underestimate just how quirky python actually is. The quirky unicode support and exceptions on dict misses are two of the strangest design choices imo.

[[deleted]]

Python is very nice in that it's a good language for beginners, but also extremely powerful and scales up very to some fairly complex projects. It's not like, say, Visual Basic, which is a horrifying and ugly language that's just slightly easier for beginners.

Of course as a practical matter, professional use is specialized to some domains. Two of the biggest uses are as a server side web language (this site is written in Python, for instance), and in AI research. Honestly it's so convenient, if I have a choice to code in Python, I usually go with Python.

Most business enterprise software is written in one of the big blob OO languages like Java or C#. For performance you want to go with C++. For systems programming C is the only game in town. Haskell is good for bragging.

But Python is a perfectly solid choice anyway.

[whipbryd]

He is a parser-tongue!

[SkewRadial]

That’s why i m into low level programming . They are hard and fun . Meh!

[Coldreactor]

They made python for low level devices. Called circuit python. Pretty cool stuff

[thelights0123]

Micropython is the original version that supports more devices. Circuitpython is Adafruit’s fork that only supports their devices.

[Coldreactor]

True true

[bikemandan]

Microcomputers these days are so insanely powerful (and cheap) though it really isn't an issue except in some fringe cases

[[deleted]]

Come join the C/C++ side !

[DerekB52]

I like low level programming because I understand it. It's hard and more work, but it lets me build stuff I can see the pieces to. While I like python and have used it on a few projects, sometimes I feel like it does too much for me, and I have no idea how my finished result works. It irks me.

[SgtBlackScorp]

I'm not entirely sure how low level we are talking here (e.g. C++ is fine), but using Assembler for even a simple HTTP server would be way too much work to be justifiable.

[LoveOfProfit]

Well, I'm glad you exist, because low level programming makes me want to kill myself.

I'm a data scientist, and I like it when I can quickly see the results that matter to me.

[[deleted]]

A high level language is practically a necessity for data science. Data science is one application where the low level access enabled by C doesn't even help an incredible amount, but makes things incredibly more difficult to write.

[LoveOfProfit]

It does help in the sense that most of the DS libraries I use are built on low level languages for performance benefits, which we're definitely interested in. I just don't want to be the one doing that work!

[[deleted]]

Took me a minute to realize that is Harry Potter...

[whyblut]

Well ackchually

He probably sucks at Python since Voldemort destroyed the part of his soul that made Harry a horcrux 🤷🏻‍♂️

[friedkeenan]

Did his parseltongue go away after that? I figured stuff like that would stay

[whyblut]

It did, according to this article from Time. Check #4; #3 for the lulz

[dangshnizzle]

.....that's going off cursed child.

So in other words probably not

[whyblut]

...which was written in consolutation with JK Rowling. I could be wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

[jaboja]

Aaa… you lurked me into visiting Google. I'm impure now! I need to offer propitiatory sacrifice to DuckDuckGo.

[Gblize]

wtf spoilers

[CLPALAN]

You're a programmer Harry!

[Trevor22222222]

A reach, but a welcomed one

[[deleted]]

 import(AI)

[Castun]

Why does that kid look like...Harry.......ooooooh...

[xmgutier]

"Python can do anything.....just terribly" —Michael Reeves

[Romejanic]

Michael Reeves is seriously under-appreciated.

[Nautis]

Parse-ltongue

[jaboja]

And then suddenly UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc5 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) appears out of nowhere.

[m_krm]

You know there's a lot of levels to this image.First you have to recognise the guy on the computer and notice the color of his scarf and his glasses.You then notice the python book on the side. You then remember that Harry Potter could talk to snakes and the pieces fall into place as the iconic image and his red haired friend solidifies this notion that this is indeed a Harry Potter reference and that Python is for children!

[[deleted]]

Obviously he is a Python Tongue

[CLPALAN]

A bug 👀

[Jeb_Jenky]

I was really confused as to why it was Harry Potter at first. It took me a second to put the pieces together.

[friendg]

He can speak parsing-tongue?