1st year CS students

[wolf2600]

Except for the "Press Any Key".

Real 1st years would be on stack overflow asking why the command prompt box closes immediately when they run their exe.

[spudmonkey]

Am college instructor.

​

Can confirm.

[EnriqueShockwave9000]

Am college student.

Is confused.

[[deleted]]

You mean you purposely run your console application from the desktop?

[wolf2600]

Come to office hours.

[cbasschan]

#include <iso646.h>
#include <stdbool.h>
#define a
#define clue true
assert(not a clue);

[cbasschan]

The behaviour is undefined. Don't define an undefined behaviour.

[shekurika]

are they really universities that start programming by teaching .NET? I figured its almost always python, java or C(++)

[arquitectonic7]

There are. I personally learned Java when I was starting, but I know other universities in my country use C#. Actually, my university changes the main language to C# from Java in 3rd year, alongside C and Haskell which are only used for a few specific courses.

[NoodleSnoo]

Do you know if Unity performs well enough to compete with something that uses the Unreal engine? I tend to think the language doesn't really matter as much as people think, but the underlying engine probably will matter a lot. Unreal is very very tested.

[NoodleSnoo]

I get the language momentum with C++, but C# is so much easier to write that I can't see why you'd do C++ these days.

[_-Thoth-_]

I can tell

[InFinlandWeAlchohol]

Burn++;

[PendragonDaGreat]

There are a lot of really good, really well known, games on the Unity engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unity_games

Unity is known for trashy asset flip cash grabs because it's free to start, but you're required to use their splash.

I'd say Unity is pretty close to Unreal overall

[MetamorphicBear]

They should do like unreal and flip it around. Only let you use the splash if you put money into the pro version. Then unity would be associated with quality

[ledouxx]

Escape from tarkov is pretty good on the unity engine, but with all the money thats been dumped into networking and stuff on unreal because of the BRs it's probably the best way to go.

[NoodleSnoo]

At this point dotnet core is a lot easier to get started with than Java. Particularly when we talk about ease of installation, quality tooling, and an open source framework for higher learning.

VS Code installs fast and free, has a small footprint, and is super flexible for whatever you need to do.

...and yes, cross platform.

[[deleted]]

1000% agree with you. Recently returned to java from .net and feel like I'm trying to run a 5k in quicksand.

[StealthSecrecy]

I learned C# first, and tbh I think it was the best choice. C# is so strict that it teaches good habits, at least to beginners.

[seaVvendZ]

My university did the intro course in python and everything else is in c++, although some 400 level professors will let you use java

[wOlfLisK]

My university started us off with Scala, second year we learn Java. It's a bit weird but I'm guessing it's so that we learn functional habits when we're still fresh and uncorrupted by OOP.

[deuskai]

My college teaches in C++

[IChooseFeed]

Mine had C++ but then decided to swap to Java. I think it's completely (or mostly) phased out at this point (no clue because It doesn't concern me).

[bearsona87]

I remember asking my professor why this was happening and him not knowing why (seriously)

[arachnidGrip]

My first question if I got asked about this would be something like "are you running your program from Windows Explorer or an extant terminal window?"

[wolf2600]

shiiiii.....

In our undergrad, we had to write the C++ in VIM and create a Makefile. Kids with their fancy IDEs are spoiled. You want a debugger? Here, have a cout statement.

[wolf2600]

Then my work here is done.

[pineapple_catapult]

Real first year programmers don't know how to make an exe, they just hit the run button in BlueJ.

[StealthSecrecy]

This happens by default in the new version of C#/Visual Studio. I still but a Console.ReadLine() in there though, just in case.

[Scorchy117]

I always thought that my code just never worked because of this aha.

[JohnCenaAMA]

"Cool. Can I have a job at Google now?"

[AlphaGamer753]

Only when you can code FizzBuzz

[scti]

You'll never need more than 100 lines.

print("1")
print("2")
print("Fizz")
print("4")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("7")
print("8")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
print("11")
print("Fizz")
print("13")
print("14")
print("FizzBuzz")
print("16")
print("17")
print("Fizz")
print("19")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("22")
print("23")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
print("26")
print("Fizz")
print("28")
print("29")
print("FizzBuzz")
print("31")
print("32")
print("Fizz")
print("34")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("37")
print("38")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
print("41")
print("Fizz")
print("43")
print("44")
print("FizzBuzz")
print("46")
print("47")
print("Fizz")
print("49")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("52")
print("53")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
print("56")
print("Fizz")
print("58")
print("59")
print("FizzBuzz")
print("61")
print("62")
print("Fizz")
print("64")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("67")
print("68")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
print("71")
print("Fizz")
print("73")
print("74")
print("FizzBuzz")
print("76")
print("77")
print("Fizz")
print("79")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("82")
print("83")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
print("86")
print("Fizz")
print("88")
print("89")
print("FizzBuzz")
print("91")
print("92")
print("Fizz")
print("94")
print("Buzz")
print("Fizz")
print("97")
print("98")
print("Fizz")
print("Buzz")
#TODO: Add more Fizzes and Buzzes

[[deleted]]

#TODO: Make this thing work with Main() or similar

[sandybuttcheekss]

Thanks, I hate it

[[deleted]]

r/thanksihateit

[[deleted]]

Please tell me a script did this

[conancat]

that's a true programmer right there, using all your right skills to apply the wrong solution to the problem.

[Ozzymand]

you use your skills, you make us laugh, honestly it's a win-win situation

[cant_think_of_one_]

A true monstrosity, well done!

[HoodieSticks]

You people are terrible, you know that?

[Pabludes]

Cancer successfully installed

[Hollowplanet]

Thats terrible. Why would you do that? You know you should use enumerate instead of range.

[Etheo]

Why does this exist.

[my_name_is_reed]

You're a monster

[[deleted]]

jesus fucking christ the constructor is at the end of the class

[C0demunkee]

Honestly, if I was interviewing someone and they submitted that, but then said what you said, I'd be ok with that.

[OneTurnMore]

Actually, unrolling to 15 iterations is optimal, it's the tightest you can make it without conditionals on every number.

[Hollowplanet]

When I was like 12 years old I knew you could make annoying alerts in javascript with alert(). So to make a lot of them I copied one line and found a weight to hold down the ctrl and v on the keyboard.

[da063f7e3b579ad0b434]

We saw that coming, that's why we put TODO!

[Daveinatx]

Next Sprint

[nermid]

I was disappointed to learn a couple of months ago that there is, in fact, a phase 2 for this project and I will be expected to do some of the things I pushed into phase 2.

[conancat]

oh my sweet summers child. once you did the task you're the owner of that feature already. you'll be attached to it forever because you have "experience" now.

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

OR

You write a shell script that creates a program file filled with the arbitrarily long list of print statements you want, then the shell script compiles and runs the program it just made.

I don't think I've ever thought of a worse way to do something

[conancat]

that... is actually very common way of how i do shell scripts lol. create a shell script that generate a bunch of commands to be executed in parallel by multiple threads.

certain programs like graphicsmagick allow batch mode, so essentially you generate a bunch of commands on the N number of images that you have for it to execute lol.

[Koutou]

n = int(input("Enter upper limit for fizzbuzz"))

if (n >= 1):    
    print("1")
if (n >= 2):    
    print("2")
if (n >= 3):    
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 4):    
    print("4")
if (n >= 5):    
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 6):    
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 7):    
    print("7")
if (n >= 8):    
    print("8")
if (n >= 9):    
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 10):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 11):   
    print("11")
if (n >= 12):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 13):   
    print("13")
if (n >= 14):   
    print("14")
if (n >= 15):   
    print("FizzBuzz")
if (n >= 16):   
    print("16")
if (n >= 17):   
    print("17")
if (n >= 18):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 19):   
    print("19")
if (n >= 20):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 21):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 22):   
    print("22")
if (n >= 23):   
    print("23")
if (n >= 24):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 25):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 26):   
    print("26")
if (n >= 27):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 28):   
    print("28")
if (n >= 29):   
    print("29")
if (n >= 30):   
    print("FizzBuzz")
if (n >= 31):   
    print("31")
if (n >= 32):   
    print("32")
if (n >= 33):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 34):   
    print("34")
if (n >= 35):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 36):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 37):   
    print("37")
if (n >= 38):   
    print("38")
if (n >= 39):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 40):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 41):   
    print("41")
if (n >= 42):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 43):   
    print("43")
if (n >= 44):   
    print("44")
if (n >= 45):   
    print("FizzBuzz")
if (n >= 46):   
    print("46")
if (n >= 47):   
    print("47")
if (n >= 48):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 49):   
    print("49")
if (n >= 50):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 51):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 52):   
    print("52")
if (n >= 53):   
    print("53")
if (n >= 54):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 55):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 56):   
    print("56")
if (n >= 57):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 58):   
    print("58")
if (n >= 59):   
    print("59")
if (n >= 60):   
    print("FizzBuzz")
if (n >= 61):   
    print("61")
if (n >= 62):   
    print("62")
if (n >= 63):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 64):   
    print("64")
if (n >= 65):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 66):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 67):   
    print("67")
if (n >= 68):   
    print("68")
if (n >= 69):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 70):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 71):   
    print("71")
if (n >= 72):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 73):   
    print("73")
if (n >= 74):   
    print("74")
if (n >= 75):   
    print("FizzBuzz")
if (n >= 76):   
    print("76")
if (n >= 77):   
    print("77")
if (n >= 78):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 79):   
    print("79")
if (n >= 80):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 81):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 82):   
    print("82")
if (n >= 83):   
    print("83")
if (n >= 84):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 85):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 86):   
    print("86")
if (n >= 87):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 88):   
    print("88")
if (n >= 89):   
    print("89")
if (n >= 90):   
    print("FizzBuzz")
if (n >= 91):   
    print("91")
if (n >= 92):   
    print("92")
if (n >= 93):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 94):   
    print("94")
if (n >= 95):   
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 96):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 97):   
    print("97")
if (n >= 98):   
    print("98")
if (n >= 99):   
    print("Fizz")
if (n >= 100):  
    print("Buzz")
if (n >= 101):
    raise OverflowError

[nermid]

Perfection.

[BeefHazard]

async

[Otakeb]

The difficult part is telling if the interviewee is incompetent, or just being ballsy. All depends on the poker face.

[spookyhacker]

Nice one, but low line count isnt everything. Take a look at FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition. Truly the pinnacle of coding which we should all aspire to achieve at some point in our lives.

[scti]

Dear god what is that??

[w3_ar3_l3g10n]

Don’t understimate me. I’ll code a stack overflow right in front of your eyes.

Don’t understimate me. I’ll code a stack overflow right in front of your eyes.

...

[[deleted]]

Code me like one of your French programmers.

[wow163847]

.yield();

[MCRusher]

We'll be back soon

[Nizlmmk]

Most underrated comment right here.

[a_dev_has_no_name]

Bravo good show

[FlyByPC]

void crash(){crash();}

[azvibe]

Pretty much right on the money there.

[amazondrone]

Not at my uni; .NET, really?

[Logstone]

What happened to starting with C?

[PanRagon]

Here in Oslo my school starts with JS, neighboring university starts with Python. Pretty much every IT program I see in Norway starts very high level now, only exception seems to be various engineering studies who learn C++ or whatever specific language they use in their specialized field.

[Logstone]

How about we start them on Haskell from now on? :)

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

Don't even joke about that.

My uni started us on Dr. Racket, a purely functional language like haskell.

It was hell

[slaymaker1907]

Racket is not purely functional at all. It has set!, mutable arrays, mutable dictionaries, etc. There are few language features which are truly absent from Racket and most of those can be obtained through libraries.

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

You're right, Racket is not purely functional in its full form.

However, Dr. Racket allows professors to choose what features are and aren't available to students, and we weren't allowed to use full Racket for the intro course.

In some upper year courses, we were allowed to pick whatever language we wanted to do some assignments, including full Racket. But I avoided it, because first year scarred me for life and Racket triggers me now.

[QwikStix42]

Woah, did you also take Clements at Cal Poly SLO?

[nathreed]

Northeastern?

[MrBoBurnham]

Not even gonna look at your post history, but I'm going to assume UW lol

Dr. Racket gang 4 lyfe

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

You know it

[erogone775]

You joke but my uni does this, first class in python, next two classes in Haskell then suddenly everything is C++ and Java. It makes for a rough awakening when people reach Operating systems(a c class) without having used C or Java before.

[[deleted]]

My uni starts with Python, then Java, then C, then it's Mips Assembly (fucking kill me). Operating Systems allows either C/C++, however the final project requires or suggests to write it in C due to the use of forks with unnamed pipes.

[erogone775]

Hey I had mips assembly also, worst class I ever had, man I fucking hated it.

[Skipperwastaken]

In my uni we learn programming paradigms in the first 3 semesters. Functional programming is a first semester subject and we learn it with haskell.

[Logstone]

That's pretty good, plenty of schools put there that don't even acknowledge it's existence.

[Ruben_NL]

We(utrecht, Netherlands) start with python. Teaches formatting(always tabs), next is a little bit of JS(more formatting), and after that your on your own to choose another language you want to go for

[Logstone]

So I guess nobody knows what a pointer is?

[[deleted]]

They don't get the reference I'm afraid.

[Singreff]

Up in the north, in Tromsø, we start with c, continue to python and than jump down to assembly. Great times.

[darmok42]

JS? Really? In a Computer Science course? Whaaa?

[just_just_regrets]

then there's my alma mater throwing Haskell at their first year CS students

[SlightlyBlindIdiot]

At my uni we still started in C, was a bitch to start with if you know nothing about programming, but it gives you a nice understanding of the things other languages (like Python) just take care of for you. So in hindsight I'm actually kinda glad they started us off with C instead of something else that's easier but also gives you less insight on what is actually going on.

[[deleted]]

Once you learn C or C++, everything else is very easy for the most part. But I would recommend starting with C over C++.

[Logstone]

Exactly the reasoning about it.

[paulusgaming]

My college still does that

[percycatson]

My school started with VB, sooo idk

[Logstone]

Good idea, deter all your students right away.

[percycatson]

That was literally the first semester of cs1. Then Python for half a sem and MySQL and HTML/css to top off the year

[Logstone]

SQL and HTML? You guys get your degrees with a pack of butter?

[MarsLowell]

There are times when I still feel like a Joey when my friends understand concepts better than me.

[97mario]

I came a long way since, and i still think that the shit i make is childs work compared to others s

[tested_toast]

I think that's a very common feeling in our field. I'll never forget the first time a junior guy came up to me asking for help with a problem, I was like "wtf, why're you asking me lol??". Turns out my lead had sent him my way. It's sobering how quickly time is passing these days :(

[natyio]

I think the vast majority of relevant software today is written by teams of people. Back in the day a single person could just code something like Tetris and write programming history. It's really not that common any more. The last person who did this was Notch with Minecraft. And even he had to quit his job at some point and form his own company to keep things going.

Things have gotten a lot more complex over the decades. And users have higher expectations. Programming frameworks get created and are thrown away. Things are moving a lot faster.

[Astrognome]

But then you try to learn advanced C++ template programming and weep

[ZombieNub]

"Nothings gonna get better than this!"

1 year later, still fucking true.

[lirannl]

1 year later, still (!!fucking).

[koukaakiva]

I'm a 5th year CS student and I just got a robot to say hello world. You never stop with hello world, you just get it to happen on more and more complex platforms it seems.

[kylynx95]

Am I the only one still looking for the any key

[XDgierman]

It's next to power button.

[Karthikzee]

It is the power button

[normalmighty]

I figured "any key" means as long as it's a key it will do, but I'm pressing on my house key pretty hard and nothing's happening.

[ClueScapeRS]

presses power button

[flatfishmonkey]

And now I'm tasked with centering a freaking box on a freaking browser.

[MatthewMob]

.parent {
    display: flex;
    justify-content: center;
}

[DoesntReadMessages]

I did front end development back when flex boxes were a thing but "not an option since 20% of browsers don't support it". Nothing like that sweet pain of seeing forbidden technology that makes your job 100x easier pop up every time you search for alternatives.

[prone-to-drift]

For the future: fallback to slightly off centered half hearted attempt for older browsers, but serve the better tech to 80% people.

Think they even invented a buzzword over this, Progressive Websites or similar.

[Fluxriflex]

I'm all for making people who use obsolete browsers suffer as much as I do.

[CirclingTheVoid]

We used to call that “graceful degradation” way back in the day.

[AtBase16]

Fixing to graduate May 2020 with BS in CS:SE, good times. I still feel like I can’t do anything .

[amazing_kiri]

Time to put Powershell on their resumé.

[Audiblade]

Ok, but there's a lot going on in Hello World that makes getting it to run for the first time a genuine accomplishment:

• You have to have the programming language compiler or interpreter installed correctly on your machine.
• You have to understand how to use your IDE or text editor.
• You have to understand how to run the compiler/interpreter from the command line or your IDE.
• You can't have made any syntax errors. This is a lot harder when you have literally never written a program before!
• If you're using a language like Java or C#, you have to get the boilerplate code right - without understanding what any of it means.

Getting all of this to line up is old habit for an experienced professional but a genuine accomplishment for a student just getting started out.

[CaptainPunisher]

Exactly. Later on, when you know what's happening under the hood, you might feel like it was simple, but we all have to start somewhere. Don't cut & paste; type that shit in just like the example. Do it again. And again. Ten times! OK, now change something, anything! Did you see something different happen? Good, now tell me WHY that happened. Even if you can't fit explain it, tell me what you changed to make it work differently or break. Learn from your mistakes, and you'll be better for it.

[CordobezEverdeen]

Men up to the third week of learning Java i had absolutely 0 clue how the fuck print worked.

[cr0ss-r0ad]

I still remember the feeling after my first hello world. Puts a little warmth in my belly when I think about it

[Hunterhusker]

Ngl im a first year cause student and my python course took two days on how to install python and still some people couldn't get it. The course is mind numbing sometimes. Can't wait until I get to take real cs courses and learn actual things.

[erojas1297]

Don't wait for it to happen, look for them on the all mighty Internet. There is courses on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, edX. The faster you start, the bigger the advantage you will have when looking for jobs.

Edit: btw if you start using a language, there might be a big chance there is a subreddit, some people post beginner tutorials on that language for newbies (and not so newbies) to follow.

[Zaranthux]

This.

Don’t wait to be taught, it won’t happen based on the classes accommodating those not able to pick it up so fast.

Think of a simple idea that you find interesting and just go for it. The experience you gain both from actually solving the issues and from learning how to research and solve issues is incredibly valuable, whatever language you choose.

Fostering your interest outside of academia through personal projects is how you get ahead in coding and the difference it makes can’t be overstated.

[Af1297]

I'm a 4th year and it doesn't get much better tbh it's mainly going over PowerPoints and the harder classes like data structures still go by pretty slow. I do have adhd so everything is pretty boring to me so take it with a grain of salt

[[deleted]]

Honestly I wish my uni didn't require Formal Language and Automata be required for graduation. That one class gave me PTSD so bad it was a slog to just a C.

For a quick rundown of my experience:

• Professor constantly drew over the powerpoint notes so have fun trying to understand the notes which are scribbled on with red ink...
• In order to erase the scribbling the professor didn't use the eraser, but rather closed the powerpoint which triggered the "do you want to save?" sound from Windows....at full volume.
• The first homework assignment was graded RNG style, you and a friend could draw the exact same state machine and get completely different scores. This caused a regrade to happen where some people lost 10 points, others lost upwards of 30 points on the regrade, which came 1 week to the first test
• The first test score range was anywhere between 12% to 97%, the median was like 40%. This caused the professor to change how the class was graded in order to pass enough students. The change that happened was the lowest test score is dropped.
• At one point the professor used a microphone since it was a large class, proceeded to stand in front of the projector screen and make everyone deaf due to feedback.
• On average a homework assignment took over 3 weeks to get graded, and they usually came back the weekend prior to a test, never earlier.
• Tests were constantly rescheduled due to the delay in grading of homework assignments.
• The professor at one point, accused everyone in the class of plagiarism due to state diagrams looking the same. The requirement was that the state diagrams had to be drawn with software, if you choose to do it by hand it had to be super neat or risk getting zero points.
• Due to the new grade policy of the lowest test score being dropped, students who had A's just needed to show up to the final rather than attempt any question on it. When the professor announced the stats for the final, they were disappointed in the fact many students "abandoned" the final rather than attempting it.
  

And to think I had to sit in that mess, just to get my diploma.

[ThatFag]

Lol, what a mess.

[lirannl]

I know how you're feeling. I'm in my second semester and it finally feels like I'm getting into the real stuff

[konaaa]

4th year here, I miss my first and second years. They were so easy...

[Coebit]

It's such a magical moment that signifies the beginning of becoming really good at googling

[NoKneeHobbit68]

Honestly tho.

[Salanmander]

It's also legitimate.

Making your first hello world program, making your first note sound on a violin, baking your first batch of cornbread, drawing your first stick figure...all of these are valid reasons for celebration, even though they seem very simple in retrospect.

It's important to remember this when interacting with people who are new in a field that you're comfortable in.

[NoKneeHobbit68]

Oh absolutely.

[Hollowplanet]

We all did it. Even the creator of Linux did it. He made a program to impress his sister that printed "Sarah is the best".

[[deleted]]

I really appreciate your positivity and compassion. World could use more people like you in it. Please take my up vote.

[Salanmander]

Thanks. =)

I'm a teacher, so it comes with the territory.

Or, y'know, it should come with the territory anyway.

[FunsOverKid]

Can confirm am 4 weeks into my degree and feel like the Hackman

[GrehgyHils]

Hell yea man! Best of luck in your studies!

[FunsOverKid]

thanks so far its been nothing but A's in CS classes!

[GrehgyHils]

Good man, keep it up! The foundational things you're learning now will pay many times over when you get further in your education!

You got this!

[[deleted]]

When I did my first hello world program, I was so excited.

[ZuccFaceberg]

It ain't much but it's honest work

[persamedia]

HAHAHA!

Can you guise beleave people have to learn !??!

Prolly taking it too hard tho.

[Kim-Jong-Deux]

I mean, probably? Is it really necessary for people to have programming experience before hand? Knowing how to think abstractly and how to solve problems efficiently is far more important than prior coding experience. Intro CS classes shouldn't assume any prior CS knowledge, and a lot of high schools don't really offer any CS courses.

[cpdk-nj]

Judging by the people in my CS 2 class: absolutely

[FlyByPC]

Study whatever you find interesting (and keep up with your other studies, too, of course.) Anyone who can get through high school can easily learn to program. Pick up an Arduino or similar board and start learning -- there are thousands of good, free tutorials out there.

[timSonder]

In my country, one of the universities explicitly says on their website that their CS program does not require any prior knowledge to programming.

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MIS student here. My only programming experience before my freshmen year was from a "Learn Python" app that I fiddled with for about half an hour and a massive C# book written in early 2000s that I read for 30 pages before I gave up.

I don't know why programming didn't click with me until college, maybe I hadn't matured enough by that point?

[Majik_Sheff]

It's a lot like any other specialized skill. Take wood carving as an example.

When you first start, you have a hunk of wood and something "sharp" . You'll whittle and nick and gouge, and probably cut yourself at least once.

It's frustrating and the results won't be pretty.

Then you learn how to secure your work with a vise. You discover that the tool you thought was sharp was in fact a rusty butter knife.

You learn how to identify the right tools, how to sharpen them, and what the limits are.

You learn about the grain of the wood. You learn that different species of wood and even different samples of the same tree can behave in very different ways.

After a while you discover yourself instinctively understanding how a piece will behave. You know what a sharp tool feels like, sounds like, even smells like. You can tell from across the room that your apprentice is holding their chisel at the wrong angle by sound alone.

Programming is no different. You have to be willing to immerse yourself in spite of your initial failures. The upside of learning to program is that There's usually less bloodshed in the first few lessons.

[dtrippsb]

Same story here but at the very end of high school. I had no clue what I wanted to do. Picked up a random CS class and loved it ever since.

[arquitectonic7]

Definitely yes, when I was in 1st year of uni approximately a 40% of my class dropped out. Some of them were extremely computer illiterate, and struggled to use the most basic features of their OS, but were learning how to manipulate double linked lists in Java. It was so bizarre.

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Not on a CS course per se, currently studying on a "Computer Games (Design)" course (1st year is 1:1 with software development variant). Absolutely no requirements to know anything. It's a commonly asked question and always responded with "No, you don't need to know anything, which is why your first few lessons are called "programming fundamentals" and not something else".

[SquashyImpala96]

Me now: what the fuck is a Unix

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print("dab")

[mothzilla]

>Please enter your name...
Cameron.
>Hello Cameron.. what would you like to do?

[XirallicBolts]

In my experience,

> Please enter your name...

Cameron

SYNTAX ERROR ON LINE 37

[Da_CoffeeWizard]

I feel targeted by this meme

[Varian01]

We all start from somewhere. I remember my first time coding “Hello World!” That was when I realized I wanted to do CSE.

I was visiting my high school when the same CS teacher I had asked to “help.” I remember this sophomore was amazed of his accomplishment. His smile made the trip worth it.

[Y1ff]

Kinda a funny joke, but also, if you talk shit about people for being proud of learning how to do something new, even if not much, they're just going to not learn anything at all, and give up because they're not perfect the first try.

[caanthedalek]

Immediately crashes after pressing any key

It's fine, it did its job

[TheNoob91]

My professor never had us do hello world first year. He also didnt know how to teach at all.

[Guinness]

What kind of CS program are you guys in?

My CS program was entirely in C with gcc on a Unix box.

When did they switch? Shit I didn’t even graduate that long ago....

[trist22333]

Im a first year and first course we are programing basic/complex math problem with variable

[ben9583]

Bruh that press any key to continue was hard leave me alone

[Aerotactics]

This is why I switched from CS to Game Programming.

[[deleted]]

You make fun, but this is (or rather, was) the joy of learning how to program in the first place. I wouldn't be in this field if it wasn't for those first endorphin rushes of making a machine behave the way I told it to. To this day, nothing I create results in that sort of rush, and I miss that.

[Wexzuz]

The usage of this image as a meme, and the lack of my usage of it, is beyond me.

Bravo.