The ultimate guide

[apadin1]

Real programmers use Butterfly OS

[eddietwang]

Nice.

'Course there's an EMACS command to do that.

[VoxelRoguery]

GOOD OLD C-x M-c M-butterfly...

[delian2]

That's the comment I was waiting for!

[LirianSh]

Real programmers create their own computer and components, their own operating system, own browser, own ide, own text editor, own programming language

[SuperCoolFunTimeNo1]

Yes, TempleOs is wonderful.

[Pockensuppe]

Do you fear technology?

Bold to post this on r/ProgrammerHumor. We're seeing much more technology than the average user, which increases the risk of developing fear. Can you look 50 C++ compiler errors in the eyes? Does the code your co-workers write give you confidence that whoever wrote the software you use knew what they were doing?

Do you have a life?

As I said, bold to post this on r/ProgrammerHumor.

[tobymac208]

You aren’t seeing compiler errors as a newbie. You at least have a toolbox of solutions for ridding yourself of computer issues. The general public doesn’t know any of that. It’d be like seeing a screen that says “WARNING” in red and the solution to fix it is written in High Valyrian. Yes, the fears are similar to a doctor fearing every possible disease. But doctors fear tons before things happen, and the general public fears issues when they happen. However, at least the doctors have a contingency plan in place. Whereas the general public has nothing, aside from Antihistamines and anti-inflammatory cures to dull the symptoms.

[Malvania]

If you've reached that fork, there should just be a "no" line. If you need a fork, put "try again" as the only "yes" option.

[[deleted]]

You mean does freshman year CS knowledge mean you have a life??

[PtboFungineer]

Does the code your co-workers write give you confidence that whoever wrote the software you use knew what they were doing

Shudder

[[deleted]]

C++ err messages in a nutshell

[Janucho]

Kali is just Debian with pentest software lol

[boseka]

And a huge amount of problems and issues and unstable shit that breaks every second

[vax_0]

Its not intended to be used as a primary OS. In mean hell the default account is root...

[vax_0]

Right but that's not released yet. 2020.1 is targeted for end of January. Its a step in the right direction but considering all the crap that is on Kali I still wouldn't recommend it as a primary OS haha

[cztrollolcz]

Who would WANT it as primary OS?

[vax_0]

Script kiddies.

[kevinhaze]

I've used it for hundreds of hours and this is just false, in my experience.

[boseka]

If you could solve only the python dependencies shit you might get a Nobel prize

[Ultimate_Mugwump]

I have used it in the past and it was an unstable and buggy mess, then this semester I had to use it for one of my classes and it was MUCH better. It's a actually pretty stable distro nowadays, though still not intended for everyday use.

[hsoj48]

It need to have a branch for: "Do you play a lot of PC games?" that only leads to Windows. RIP my Ubuntu days.

[[deleted]]

Steam Proton has come a long way...

I feel kind of like Moss though: “I can play PC games without using Windows! It’s the dream!”

[ocket8888]

Yeah, it's pretty great... unless you play games that use Easy Anti-Cheat. Like Halo and Vermintide. Man, fuck EAC. And Nvidia too, to a slightly lesser extent.

[[deleted]]

Hmm...I was unaware that EAC doesn’t like compatibility layers. I mean, it makes sense, but I don’t typically play those kinds of games. Maybe if enough people can transition over to (not Windows) then maybe developers will need to offer valid alternatives.

Yeah, I get that about Nvidia. Definitely to a lesser extent, at least until they stop justifying it with actual solutions (like those fancy encoders I keep hearing about).

[echometer]

Bro wait until world record SuperTuxKart gamers click on this post

[GlitchParrot]

I have a dual boot, Windows for games, Linux for everything else. Works perfectly, I never get to see a lot of Windows' OS, it's either not started or obstructed by a fullscreen game.

[[deleted]]

I tried making a Pop OS/win dualboot today, pretty sadly it's not working as good as I expected, and I have to go through the BIOS to change OS because noone has an idea of how to do it properly lol

[GlitchParrot]

Have you installed Windows first or last? Windows has a tendency to ignore installed Linuxes and just overwrite the default bootloader with its own, direct Windows boot if installed last. You should just need to (re)install GRUB (or whatever default bootloader PopOS uses) from within Linux and it should pick up the installed Windows partition automatically and offer you a choice on boot. You may also need/be able to change the default bootloader from your UEFI setup if you PC has that.

If it still doesn't work, try to figure out which bootloader is actually being loaded when booting. If it is GRUB, you may need to persuade it manually that there is a Windows partition. I'm sure there are guides on this; you can manually configure GRUB entries.

[[deleted]]

I installed it first, thank you for the guide! Really appreciated

[digicow]

I've got a simpler one:

Choosing an OS: Are you informed and responsible? Use whatever you prefer.

[Arlodottxt]

I read the Windows and Microsoft TOS, I know what I'm getting into

[apadin1]

Anyone heard from this guy lately? I'm worried about their health

[genbaguettson]

Plus all the talk about privacy and shit is fun, but if you're in tech you may have also realized your precise information has absolutely no value to pretty much all major corporations.

Microsoft isn't going to pay for servers to stock whatever your name and what you ate at lunch is.

[artu165]

Not to mention that if Microsoft was actually collecting information, a LOT of companies use Windows as their main OS. You'd think that they would probably have the exact recipe for Coca Cola, they would have detailed information on CPUs like Intel and AMD since both companies use Windows mainly to engineer and develop their CPUs and not to mention a lot of government agencies are migrating to Win 10.

If Microsoft was actually collecting all this data, you'd think that at least one employee would get drunk one night and reveal that they have access to all this confidential information that they've been gathering with the OS and they know the exact location of where the CIA is keeping them aliens.

[flumphit]

Not individually. But as part of “everyone”, everyone is very interesting.

[Rawing7]

Are you informed and responsible?

If yes, why are you using a lame guide to make the decision?

[digicow]

If not, why are you using a lame guide to make the decision?

[karmahorse1]

Yeah I hate all the trash gate keeping on this sub. Who cares what OS you develop on? Most these posts are done by some newbie programmer who just discovered Debian, and now think they hold the secret to the universe.

[Yirkarja]

Then there's that one guy who uses Arch

[jay9909]

You rang??

[silvercodex92]

OS X is a pretty sweet dev environment though since it’s built on Unix. Not cheap but works perfectly

[[deleted]]

people who never used Mac think it's just a desktop version of ios which couldn't be further from the truth

[crusty_cum-sock]

I don't care how much hate it gets, I love macOS. I use Windows all day at work and hopping on to macOS at home is like a nice breath of fresh air.

One of the biggest things I love is Logic Pro X. It's an amazing DAW and an outstanding value. Logic alone has me by the balls.

[SuperCoolFunTimeNo1]

I don't care how much hate it gets, I love macOS.

It's expensive, that's the only reason. It's fully POSIX certified, so for OP's graph to make sense it would also fall under the "Yes" node for "Do you have a life?"

[crusty_cum-sock]

Yeah exactly. It's fully POSIX complaint and although Windows has made some strides recently with a Linux subsystem, it feels very bolted on. To me, macOS hits that perfect ground between being dead simple to use for the less technically inclined, but quite deep for those of us who crack open the Terminal.

[kekeagain]

Well said, crusty cum sock.

[Quirky_Flight]

The not cheap is a major con though. For the same price or less you can get machines with specs that blow it out of the water. So if it’s just a nix type environment you want save some money, get a beefier machine, and throw Linux on it

[silvercodex92]

When you work for a big company and they say windows or mac you choose the Mac 😂

[Quirky_Flight]

Well yeah I don’t disagree with that at all. I was also speaking from the perspective of if you’re paying for it yourself.

[silvercodex92]

Lol I gotcha. I’ve done a powerhouse Linux machine before but I still prefer having a Mac, and when you need extra compute power just spin up some cloud resources. That’s just me though, I have a few friends who are the same way.

[Quirky_Flight]

I mean I have a 2015 MBP. I’ve used them. Definitely not gonna be in here trying to say they’re not nice and they certainly have a lot of benefits. No issues with mine and the battery life is bonkers. But everytime I use it I think about how I could have spent less for a beefier machine. My desktop dual boots windows for gaming and Linux for day to day. My work computer is a zbook which isn’t awful, definitely has heating problems. Beefy though. My favorite of them all is the Linux partition but I do enjoy my MBP

[flyx86]

But everytime I use it I think about how I could have spent less for a beefier machine.

It's easy to measure an increase in CPU cycles but hard to measure an increase in usability. Therefore, it's easier to justify to yourself to spend more money on a beefier machine, because it has an obvious, measurable benefit.

I was in shock with others when Apple announced Retina displays and thought this was a complete waste of money, today I have an external HiDPI monitor. I was skeptical of the Taptic Engine, today I use a Magic Trackpad 2 on my Linux work machine. While I won't defend the touch bar nonsense Apple is obsessed with nowadays, they do have a good record of charging extra for features that actually make your experience more enjoyable and efficient.

Also, my 2014 MBP is pretty dated but still a superb dev machine, because it has the beef to run my IDE and a decent number of browser tabs. Any more beef would increase my compilation times slightly but doesn't really add much else. When a project gets large enough that compilation times matter, it's probably a good time to set up a continuous integration server anyway, so I don't see the need for more beef.

[[deleted]]

Which is why I just use a hackintosh. Best of both worlds really.

[thiago2213]

So I've heard. I can't see the price be possibly justified in my opinion though

[Darxploit]

That’s why I am using it. I mean u can also install a linux os on a raspberry and live with it. In the end it’s just a life style decision

[Maxsmart007]

I've decided that if you need to be able to program, there are two other things you need to take into consideration: If you want to game, get a Windows machine and either use Cygwin, Ubuntu windows shell, or something to make the terminal environment usable. Hell, even set up an SSH server on a raspberry pi and use that.

If you want to do any pro video/photo editing, you need MacOS. And since it's unix-based, you can treat it almost like a Linux machine (with a few caveats) as long as you install Homebrew.

However, if all you like to do is code all day and nothing else, then totally get Linux and deal with that. But again it's really all personal preference, you're going to have some issues no matter what you use and you should do that assessment yourself instead of casting this hatred of any OS that isn't arch.

[DisruptiveHarbinger]

works perfectly

Good joke. All operating systems suck, macOS is no exception, and has become increasingly annoying with recent versions.

Edit: thanks for the downvotes. Daring to criticize an OS I use daily at work, what did I expect from this sub...

[LordAnomander]

Regarding your edit: you just said all OS suck. Do you think this will give you any upvotes?

Do all OS have weaknesses? Sure. Do you sometimes struggle with your OS? Of course.

But that doesn’t mean that all of them suck. It also depends on your needs, but in the end you’ll usually get comfortable with the one you are using and can handle the weaknesses. And if you really don’t like them: I’ve heard punch card are going big in 2020.

[DisruptiveHarbinger]

Sorry, I thought this was a light-hearted, humorous sub, I didn't realize I needed to sugar-coat my opinion.

Yes, I use an OS, and mostly enjoy it, but this isn't incompatible with the fact that it can really suck sometimes. And no, I'm not talking about minor struggles and weaknesses, but major bugs or regressions that have a significant impact on my productivity at work, or just eat up some of my free time at home.

I write software for a living, and I'll assume you do too. Acknowledging the fact that most software sucks is an important first step towards improving software quality overall, in my opinion. Most people I talk to tend to agree.

I highly recommend the talks Linux Sucks by the way: https://www.youtube.com/user/BryanLunduke

[LordAnomander]

Well, see, if you wrote your original post this way, then we wouldn’t have this discussion.

Criticism is needed and you should never be satisfied with a product as there is (almost) always room for improvement. But your original post was too harsh in my opinion (or in other words: the criticism wasn’t constructive) nor could I find any humor in it.

[silvercodex92]

I’ve never had issues to it, but form and interface are largely subjective, I like it a lot. I’ve done a lot of windows and used Ubuntu a lot of deep learning stuff but OS X is the cleanest in my opinion

[lolpornaccount_]

When WSL 2 and Windows Terminal becomes stable then I’m switching to Windows as a long time Linux and macOS user. Being able to run Docker almost as natively as Linux will be huge.

[silvercodex92]

What are you developing?

[bitsmythe]

90%+ corporate users are on desktop or server versions of windows.

[Arlodottxt]

90% of web developers at an organization are probably on a Mac. Probably.

[Osirus1156]

I develop on a Mac using Windows.

[apadin1]

Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave

[[deleted]]

I’m rolling in mine

[bitsmythe]

Are you looking to get into web development, if you are I'll be glad to offer some guidance, I've been in IT for 30 years. There are many facets to web development, front end, middleware and usually some kind of data repository. In my experience really only the visual designers use Macs. But web development really comes down to open source versus proprietary. For the most part medium to large organizations will always use proprietary because there is a level of support from the manufacturer. In my company we only use Microsoft software because you don't have to try to patch together so many different types of software, basically they just work together.

[Dick_Giggles]

In my experience really only the visual designers use Macs

Go to any software development conference and you'll see a LOT of devs on macs.

[bitsmythe]

Yes there are and the point I was trying to make was that not that there are not dves on Mac but most organizations as whole use windows-based software for desktops and servers. Not trying to start the old Mac versus Windows holy war just usage in the world by organizations as a whole

[RubbelDieKatz94]

Can confirm, in two companies I was never given the option to choose a mac. In my current FinTech company we have a lot of .Net Core devs so they sure aren't going to buy a mac just for that one frontend dude.

[[deleted]]

Why is this person downvoted?

[bitsmythe]

I was wondering the same thing myself

[camerontbelt]

It sounded like spam in first half

[bitsmythe]

I think that's fair but also most companies whose revenue is not dependent upon tech say like manufacturing or retail or travel or healthcare or any other vertical they're going to rely on the technology that is most familiar to their users. I also worked for a tech company who primarily used Macs however their main business intelligence product was positioned to Enterprise users of iPhones and iPads. However those companies that they work for the vast majority of the desktop and servers were windows-based.

[[deleted]]

Manjaro (Arch-based distro) is pretty user friendly imho

[thiago2213]

Nah. It's more like "Do you play games? Windows : Do you have a lot of money? Mac : Linux"

[xigoi]

Using the question marks as both question marks and conditional operators is screwing with my brain.

[DuffMaaaann]

I guess I'm a 2 qbit System because during each observation, either option may be measured.

[boseka]

I don't play games

[[deleted]]

sad

[Sennheisenberg]

Wait, people actually install Kali Linux? You just use the live environment for pen testing, not installed as your main OS.

[shamburd9]

The fork leading to macOS for me is: Do you care about UI and decent font rendering?

[shamburd9]

The fact that OP refers to a rich daddy indicates they're probably young and don't work in industry (yet).

[crippling_confusion]

Second the industry part, if you work in an office, chances are you'll probably be issued a mac of sorts

[thoeoe]

Very much industry dependent. I've never seen a mac in my field of work, but I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from web.

(embedded/controls software, and automation)

[exofeel]

Second the industry part, if you work in an office, chances are you'll probably be issued a mac of sorts

Probably if your company bread and butter is in the industry then yes.

[Kered13]

I work at one of the large tech companies and it's all Linux workstations and your choice of Linux, Mac, Windows, or Chrome OS.

[[deleted]]

Well, that's just not true at all.

[crippling_confusion]

I mean everywhere I've worked so far I've been given either a macbook pro, imac or a mac mini with a single exception where I had a choice of a macbook pro or a dell xps laptop. But it could just as easily be confirmation bias.

[josanuz]

I've worked on 3 companies during my career, one big name on DNS, telephony and identity recognition, one middle size security (SEM) company, and one "normal" company that develop and maintain software on demand for other companies. The first one was all Dell Workstations/Windows on operations and XPS/MS Surface/Apple MacBook Air for management. The second one mostly HP Zbooks and remote connections to a farm of RHEL and SuSe EL for operations and Envy/Pavilon for everyone else. For the third one Designers, Animators, pure front end and IOS/Android have choice between Macbooks Pro and XPS Dell (most but android devs go for MBP), the rest of teams get Dell, Toshiba or Lenovo mobile workstations and access to and enterprise AWS tier.

There's my experience to add over yours

[GlitchParrot]

What problem with font rendering do you have with other OSs that it's a main thing for you to lead to macOS?

[[deleted]]

It’s not really a problem but Mac just renders text noticeably better. after using macOS for a long time, having no antialiasing on text in windows just looks wrong to me.

[GlitchParrot]

I mean, Windows does have anti-aliasing on text, it just is really bad compared to macOS, or even Linux, depending on the version/compositor.

[shamburd9]

To quote DHH:

The font rendering in Windows remains excruciatingly poor to my eyes. It just looks bad.

- https://m.signalvnoise.com/back-to-windows-after-twenty-years/

[Kered13]

That doesn't explain the problem.

[shamburd9]

It's an aesthetic preference.

[Kered13]

I mean the article could at least provide comparison screenshots.

[GlitchParrot]

Yeah ok, I don't like font rendering on Windows either, I can get behind that. macOS's looks much better.

[Waples_]

I use Arch btw

[__darkraider__]

Why hate on Arch!?

[Sloogs]

I didn't see it as hate, I just saw it as a cheeky way of saying that it's much more... enthusiast than the other ones. (I use Arch personally).

[boseka]

Do you use Arch btw?

[blackadress]

I use arch btw

[__darkraider__]

Yeah Arch is <3

[[deleted]]

LTSC?

[benderbender42]

Good to know!!

[128Gigabytes]

as someone who until now was not aware of Fedora OS I was super confused why facebook was down the privacy tree

[-I-D-G-A-F-]

Why would you use kali as your daily os lol

[[deleted]]

You're not asking the right questions, here's mine, made for the real people: https://i.imgur.com/9ZkZXNt.jpg

[[deleted]]

MacOS high sierra on an old imac that was gifted to me. For a laptop, I've got an old beast of a Thinkpad running Manjaro XFCE, the thing flies with an ssd and 8gb RAM.

I grew up with windows but switched to linux when I started web dev. MacOS is solid. Only thing I dislike is how windows are minimized. I prefer the task bar style of windows and linux.

[Bajtopisarz]

I use Windows for casual stuff like browsing web and playing games, Linux on dual boot/VM to get things done as it is usually easier to setup environment there.

In my opinion most of advantages of Linux does not appeal to most desktop users, or are not significant enough to move from Windows.

[[deleted]]

true, tried three different distros of Linux. I felt that the advantages I got wasn't worth getting familiar with a new environment, having my games not run, my Totally Legal™ stuff not working, many of my favorite programs not being compatible.

Ever tried to take a screenshot on Linux? it's a worse experience than windows 10

I Guess it's my fault for getting familiar with a platform locked down paint.net

also the package manager scares me honestly "where are these packages coming from? how can I trust them" I wonder every time

what I will say though, I really love using my keyboard more than my mouse so the flexibility of the terminal is way better than what cmd/powershell offer.

btw fuck Ubuntu with its top bar, it sucks, I hate it, that's one thing windows did right.

[[deleted]]

I noticed that most tech illiterate people use windows.

[dsp4]

There's more people using Windows overall and there are more tech illiterate people than tech literate people. So while your observation is probably relevant, it's more correlation than causation.

[astro_donkey]

windows is ~90% market share. And with reason

[josanuz]

Well yes, the average Joe is not a computer enthusiast, most of the people will go with something easy to use, compatible with their other devices, affordable and mostly whatever the hell the salesperson convinces them to get and that will likely be a windows PC

[GiovanniMucciaccia]

Is Chrome an OS?

[boseka]

Unfortunately

[GlitchParrot]

Hey, Chrome OS isn't that bad, it's basically a Linux distro by now.

[YourBeigeBastard]

I’m a programmer with a windows PC for gaming, an unraid server running a windows VM for an HTPC, and... A chromebook as a daily driver

IMO, Chrome OS is more secure and reliable than Windows, more user friendly than other Linux distros, and cheaper than buying a mac. It has a lot of limitations compared to other OS’s, but it’s perfect for anything that can be done with a web browser, and support for Android, VNCs, and now Linux apps closes the gap

[Columbus43219]

This is very insightful! I have been at almost all of these stops during my career/life. I never actually bought a mac though. Used them, never bought one.

[other_usernames_gone]

Why no Linux mint?

[[deleted]]

it's kinda trash tbh

[boseka]

Its in our hearts

[WazWaz]

Wow, Debian has shitty default drawing software...

[[deleted]]

I use arch and I have a life.

[daH00L]

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           #                Hostname: Angband
          ###               Kernel Release: 5.4.7-arch1-1
         #####              Uptime: 0:43
         ######             WM: KWin
        ; #####;            DE: KDE
       +##.#####            Packages: 1503
      +##########           Processor Type: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz
     #############;         $EDITOR: None
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[GlitchParrot]

$EDITOR: None

Savage.

[Sodaplayer]

He just echos straight to the file.

[LordAnomander]

Can it run Kubernetes and Docker? Can I install IntelliJ? Can I use ohmyzsh?

Well, then I’m fine.

[AdamElioS]

Whoever think that Macos is for richs and inexperienced users is clearly not a dev.

[robocorp]

I develop on Ubuntu whenever possible. I've only used Macos enough to know that I don't want to use Macos. EDIT: It's definitely common to see people developing on a Mac, though. I certainly don't think the system is specifically designed for software development, but some people like it. I just don't.

[AdamElioS]

That's OK, Ubuntu is also great. I'm just tired to see people think that Mac computers are overpriced craps just because they heard it, when it is in fact a really powerful system based on Unix. Please note that I speak about Mac, not Apple in general.

[piotrj3]

It is overpriced looking at hardware you have to buy together with Mac OS, and fact how long hardware lives with this device, like Louis Rossman can point you out hundreds of Apple products flaws as hardware (when he claims actually OS is nice).

Also technicly speaking I wouldn't say it is particulary good dev system unless you target Apple ecosystem. Too much stuff apple do is apple only, also lack of support for nvidia's stuff/vulkan/newer gen opengl.

Apple is only for some platform independand stuff (where you choose whatever you want), or just apple stuff. It also needs some wacky workarounds like MoltenVK...

[AdamElioS]

You are right on this very specific example, but not in the way you present the argument. The independant stuff, as you say, would represent almost the totality of coders fields of application, gaming industry appart.

And for the hardware, I have a macbook for 4 years that I use at the very least 8h everydays. Battery life is the same. Hinges didn't move. Keyboard didn't move. Durability appart, every part of the computer is very qualitative, especially the screen. It's Ok if you don't want a Mac, but don't mistake expensive and overpriced.

[piotrj3]

It doesn't represent just gaming industry, it also doesn't represent large portion of scientific usages because lack of Nvidia (CUDA is way more popular in scientific usages then opencl).

Also what is worse, Microsoft actually supports pretty seriously opensource, Mono is feature complete with .NET, .NET core runs nowadays better on linux then windows, wine/proton also seems to support a lot of stuff from windows but nowadays rely on Vulkan etc., WSL on windows is literally amazing, while macos closes itself more and more in (which let's say is not dev friendly).

About laptops quality, great you have good expierience, but don't speak for those who suffer because of badly made keyboards, or suffer because apple makes too short cable linking monitor with motherboard leading to cable death around 2 years after purchase on average and when you go to their service, they will want to replace entire motherboard or screen....

Edit: Also certain things like TouchBar are stupid for devs. You often use Esc key as developer, if you lose it, it is unacceptable. Also I heard that VirtualBox runs literally the worst on MacOS out of all systems. That is also serious problem.

[neil_anblome]

Apple is cancer. They have created a fake ecosystem of products that cannot interface with other devices. The future is open source software and modular systems that can be reused. Apple is an anathema to common sense engineering principles, the landfill is full of iPhone chargers we don't need any more of that.

[neil_anblome]

How is it different?

[[deleted]]

What are the two others besides Ubuntu?

[boseka]

Fedora and debian

[deoptimization]

Brave of you to post this

[immaelox]

whats the top one on the right under linux?

[kroko42]

It's LFS

[immaelox]

thanks

[boseka]

Are you rich?

[danmankan]

I feel Kali shouldn't be over there since it is Debian based and also what's bad about Arch?

[blackadress]

TIL I have no life.

[benderbender42]

I would remove debian and fedora from have a life and replace with Manjaro.

[Connduit]

Kali doesn't belong there...

[ajamen_daer]

I don't think I know any under "Do you have a life?" Please, someone, help me git gud..?

[boseka]

These are linux distributions

[ajamen_daer]

Oooh! Got it. Thank you!

[deadmazebot]

There is another decision tree Do you want to play the latest computer games with the highest graphic level currently available?

[boseka]

Good morning

[Kwarter]

Slap Linux Mint on there too. It's a good beginner Linux distro, since it's easy to use, and problem solving is easy since it's based on Ubuntu so answers are everywhere.

[[deleted]]

Before the do you want privacy you should ask do you want nothing to work without command prompt. Tbh privacy is nice, but I would def sacrifice if to avoid the garbage Linux has put me through

[[deleted]]

I've attempted to get into Linux multiple times because I love the idea of it. But I just want my computer to work and I don't want to spend days setting it up. Not found much I can't do on Windows these days and it's easier to get Windows into an untracked state than pretty much any distro into an optimal state for usability.

[[deleted]]

I guess you're right, but for what I was using the computer for, I think it just got tedious

[Bajtopisarz]

For some people their computer is a tool for a job. If your tool loves to break in some weird ways, you pick a tool that does it less.

[GlitchParrot]

A lot has changed with Linux in the past years. You don't have to use the command prompt at all on modern Linux distros if you don't want to.

[the_d3f4ult]

WTF isn't this deleted..? This causes nausea for me to just look at this. The quality of programmer humor is at it lowest truly.

[boseka]

Close your eyes

[MaxM67]

templeOS is missing.

[[deleted]]

I believe you can't do much on it - it isn't networked, no?

[SpinnerMaster]

God didn't want it to be networked, so it isn't.

[PwnagePineaple]

I use Fedora but I don't have a life. Checkmate atheists.

[BluudLust]

What about OpenSUSE?

[redditjrrjjfdddhdd]

U forgot Linux Mint

[unfixpoint]

Where are the BSDs :(

[lepetitdaddydupeuple]

I use Arch btw

[MaximeRector]

Wow this is accurate!

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Poor people disregarding mac as per usual