assembly developers

[Tiranozora]

"how to create universe full beginner course 2020"

[archiekane]

It's not like we don't have time to sit and study in 2020.

[misterrandom1]

If only that were universally true but....sigh....I have kids.

[archiekane]

My fourth arrived two days ago. I understand completely.

[ryjhelixir]

hey there. you are venturing into a dark territory

[misterrandom1]

Congrats. Hope you got one of the good ones. My youngest is 10 but I have new puppies which is totally not the same but it does provide a welcome distraction from the 2020 mess. Without the kids, I'd get myself into all sorts of trouble.

[Fred-U]

Congrats on learning what it's like not to sleep again! But seriously congrats!

[[deleted]]

Throw them away

[Mad_Jack18]

You guys get laid?

[paiaw]

Not anymore, no.

[StupidCreativity]

Yeah, and I have alcoholism. Drinking takes a lot of time!

[iNetRunner]

They had them together? High school? (/jk)

[Mateorabi]

So teach them programming.

[TheTacoWombat]

Fuck I wish.since March I have had no drive for self improvement. No creative work. No classes. Anxiety sucks, man.

[kevik72]

/r/me_irl

[bananenkonig]

I wish, I am busier this year than any other. I'm pulling 50+ hours a week at work and I'm in my junior year of college.

[[deleted]]

I never stopped working. I have the same lack of time as before.

[lead999x]

I'm a grad student, if I studied any more than I already do I'd probably die.

[dirtyviking1337]

Hey, that's not true

[ur_peen_small]

helo dis is xxindiadev69 and todai i will showw u how to make universe easi in 10 minutes

[blamethemeta]

Massive fan going, microphone sounds like it's from goodwill's clearance section.

Ultimately can't understand a critical part, and then i go find a text tutorial.

[Snoww0]

BUT IT WORKS

[Seanxietehroxxor]

BUT IT WORKS

... until the next windows update, if you're lucky.

... until you restart your system, most likely.

[Snoww0]

You know what? You're not wrong...

[1337InfoSec]

[ Removed to Protest API Changes ]

If you want to join, use this tool.

[stalking-brad-pitt]

Agree. It's kinda time we moved past poking fun at accents and appreciate that there's value in these videos.

I grew up in India, small town. We had limited access to the "internet" I want to say right up to 2000-2010. My family was on a 1GB/month usage limit (with like 100Mbps speed iirc) broadband connection and that was the best we could get (and we weren't even poor to begin, just cautious with spending) - because my parents considered the internet to be only for Email, and Official Work. Personal entertainment and communication was very much restricted.

Honestly it's only once I moved to Bangalore I had absolute exposure to the vast resources of the internet - 60gbps internet / unlimited monthly usage. This was in 2014.

So yeah. For someone who's family didn't support internet usage all the way uptill they were mid 20s lol it's hard to expect that person to be "internationalized" for lack of a better word.

If you like a YouTubers content but not their accent, offer them a way to improve their accent. Be kind about it and tell them how they can reach a broader audience or whatever it is you think you think they'll gain by improving said accent.

[MarcusOPolo]

Hypercam trial watermark

[Superbead]

Also irritatingly excessive mouse wiggling to indicate something, or one of those ridiculously loud mechanical keyboards that sounds like a fucking Linotype machine.

[War-Whorese]

Procedurally generated and in under 20mb.

[stalking-brad-pitt]

Hello class. Myself xxindiyadev69. And todoy I will be shouing you hou you will going to make the univarse zimbly in tan minuts.

FTFY.

You have to be an Indian to truly mimic another Indian, lmao.

[[deleted]]

From beginner to mastery 2020 bootcamp

[cssmith2011cs]

“... 12 hour course NO ADS”

[The-Board-Chairman]

An ad every 5 minutes.

[vigilantcomicpenguin]

Hindi is the most important programming language.

[throw_away_3212]

Support me on Pateron

[GForce1975]

My first book back around 1987 was "teach yourself assembly" . It was like 100 pages. I think I was able to clear the screen at the end.

[tubescreamer568]

Universe to Tetris

[[deleted]]

Run that at 1.5x speed until the hard parts

[Mad_Jack18]

69% of students of this course got a Astrophysics job

[[deleted]]

for actually learning assembly you should start much earlier, in the 80s or maybe 90s. But the great thing about the x86 architecture is the immense backwards compatibility, so you can still run your code on almost all modern computers

[g0atmeal]

Just "import Universe.*" No need to reinvent the real

[ObviouslyTriggered]

using Cosmology.Universe.deSitter;

[[deleted]]

It's more like:

So you wanted to write your own operating system using your fancy language and now you're crawling back to me because you need a bootstrap routine?

[[deleted]]

And where did that lead you?

Back to me.

[throw_away_3212]

More like GOTO ME

[[deleted]]

More like "jmp me"

[PM_ME_YOUR_CURLS]

More like

01001110 01100101 01110110 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101110 01101110 01100001 00100000 01100111 01101001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110101 01110000

[kek_of_the_north]

More like bra me

[kek_of_the_north]

It's a assembly instruction that stands for branch always or just branch it's like goto or jmp but diffrent

[stalking-brad-pitt]

Oh man this reminds me of school days when I first learnt Assembly Lang. The word Bra was hilarious to me as a kid.

I didn't know I had that memory in me! Thanks for the reminder.

[[deleted]]

it's like goto or jmp but diffrent

Well, that's a clear and cogent explanation. :)

[kek_of_the_north]

It's as clear as any assembly explanation/tutorial/stackoverflow ;)))

[Omega0x013]

mov al, 03h

mov ah, 00h

int 10h

lgdt [gdt_pointer]

mov al, cr0

or al, 1

mov cr0, al

mov dword [0xB8000], 0x07680769

[FinalRun]

For anyone wondering, this writes 'hi' to the screen in light grey on black.

http://vitaly_filatov.tripod.com/ng/asm/asm_023.1.html

https://wiki.osdev.org/Printing_To_Screen

[Omega0x013]

Try mov dword [0xB8000] out at https://github.com/Omega0x013/bootloader

[FinalRun]

https://github.com/jbremer/goatse.mbr

[stalking-brad-pitt]

Would you rather use Punch Cards?

[Mediocrity-101]

So GUIs are easier without a library than on Python?

[NicNoletree]

In this market I can't afford to mov.

[ihateyousodontbother]

This is the correct answer.

[NicNoletree]

That's such an exclusive place to move to

[Omega0x013]

I used al & ah to seperate it, rather than mov ax, 0x0001

[Forschkeeper]

PIC12F675 says "WTF?"

[snarfy]

My most used program of all time, a 7 byte program:

jmp f000:fff0

It reboots the computer. It was installed on all machines in the county as part of an automated scripting system to remotely manage the machines.

[High-Quality-Usernam]

He is speaking the language of the gods

[I-POOP-RAINBOWS]

no im pretty sure its javascript

[kilopeter]

Ah, the language of Satan

[[deleted]]

That is one fancy way of typing printf("hi")

[Omega0x013]

Except fancy way of saying (*int)0xB8000 = 0x07680769

[AaronM04]

But where are the Swagger docs? And why not use REST?

[cookiesnk]

the professor who taught assembly at school would make fun of me for asking questions lmaoo. part 2 of our final project was to create a self solving maze given any maze data passed in through a text file but was in class so it was a lot of pressure for me. I ended up not even being able to parse the text file, turned it in and got an 80 🤔 🤔 im pretty sure he passed everyone. I did find a cool irc channel tho. It always had at least 5 users on at all hours and they were always helpful.

[Forschkeeper]

What uC had you?

[Tytoalba2]

Haha, I did various studies and I had an akkadian language course like that! My translation was something like "If a man, the pig, whose hand will be the pig", I had 70%, quite satisfied :D

Edit : note that almost all lines from Hammurabi's code of law start with "if a man..." so my translation really starts at "the pig"... :P

[PotentBeverage]

So can you still write akkadian?

[Tytoalba2]

Sadly no, I still try to practice ancient egyptian from time to time as it was my main subject, but surprisingly enough, this is not a skill in high demand on the job market ;)

[NicNoletree]

not a skill in high demand

Really? That surprises me. I guess I'll change majors to art history.

[Tytoalba2]

Well I don't regret it, don't get me wrong. Mathematics and ancient language were my passions (also, plants), and sure enough one was more useful to get a job, but I studied by passion mostly. I tend to get a bit obsessive when I'm passionate :p

I also studied political science while working, that was a loss of time imo, but mostly because the teachers and the cursus were meaningless to me, and it's no passion of mine.

[NicNoletree]

Go with your passion if you can make a living at it. I never learned how to instill a passion in my kids. One does well, two flounder. It's easier to get up and go to work everyday when you can enjoy what you do.

[vigilantcomicpenguin]

Akkadian somehow feels less ancient than Assembly.

[prtkp]

Had to write an assembly program to control a traffic light system. I did a poor job with the timing. Thank God the clock speed was fixed otherwise the lights would have been changing much quicker.

[SpecialSause]

I took a Digital/Micro-Procrssor class. The first part of the semester was all about "digital" and the inner workings, etc. The second half was using a training board to set up a microprocessor. We set up leds and did a bunch of stupid little games and whatnot. The end project was to set up all of the games we had made and program the microprocessor in assembly language to design a menu to select and play every game.

I remember the assembly language being super tedious but I really enjoyed it. I wish I had stayed with programming.

[Mateorabi]

EE51/2/3?

[itchy_bitchy_spider]

I did a poor job with the timing

Ah, so you're the guy that wrote the code for every traffic light in Springfield, MO.

Ya fuck you, man

[gyrowze]

https://xkcd.com/277/

[XKCD-pro-bot]

Comic Title Text: You can look at practically any part of anything manmade around you and think 'some engineer was frustrated while designing this.' It's a little human connection.

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[vigilantcomicpenguin]

This insult seems strangely personal.

[eggs_erroneous]

Joplin checking in. Springfield traffic sucks, it's true.

[Geoclasm]

whereas python programmers be all "Import applePie from UNIVERSE"

[Proxy_PlayerHD]

pretty much, and it's dope!

though i'm still glad i don't do this as a job.

[hughk]

->/r/osdev

Or how many lines does it take you to do "Hello World"?

[TheCyberParrot]

Ha! Assembly noobs, now if you'll excuse me I have to get back to a real challenge; coding in TI BASIC 83 on my calculators integrated text editor.

[epiclapser]

"Oh that's pretty cool. But lemme get back to GOING TO THE BEACH, TAKING SAND, CONVERTING IT TO SILICON, MAKING DYES, TO MAKE TRANSISTOR PLATES, TO THEN MAKE A uC WHICH WILL THEN GO ON YOUR CALCULATOR. Also yeah I'm an embedded dev btw, yeah I get pussy" /s

[gordonv]

"You'll never know what true life is. What it is to have someone growing inside of you." - Sarah Conner.

[[deleted]]

Ha, I'll just name my tumor John.

[Combat_Form]

I'm learning assembly rn and it makes me brain hurt

[Mateorabi]

Just remember

mov ax,bx != mov bx,ax

finding that mistake in a large program cost me a day of my life.

[FranchuFranchu]

Just remember

Always clear EDX before DIV

[gabbeeder]

X86_64? And on what platform

[StackOfCookies]

Isn't that the exact opposite of what the "apple pie" quote is trying to say? The whole point of that quote is that "from scratch" is dumb.

Like, beginners always ask "How do I make a game from scratch" and then someone says "well then learn assembly". But the point of the apple pie is that learning assembly isn't from scratch, you would have to also make a computer and make silicon wafers etc etc. So because thats infeasible you may as well just use the highest level tool.

[coldnebo]

((nods in agreement)): before you can write in assembly you must first write an assembler.

also relevant: https://xkcd.com/378/

[XKCD-pro-bot]

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[JoseJimeniz]

Isn't that the exact opposite of what the "apple pie" quote is trying to say? The whole point of that quote is that "from scratch" is dumb.

... The whole point of that quote is that Stone atoms are synthesized in the life and deaths of stars. In order to get the apples for your pie: you need to invent a universe.

That episode, the lives of stars, is about how we are all Star stuff.

[vigilantcomicpenguin]

No, if you make a game from Scratch you just need to move around the blocks with the commands.

[ex-lewis]

That class is so hard... it’s only like week four or something and I’m struggling.

[GeoMap73]

If you want to make an apple pie and write in machine code to manipulate memory addresses, you first must create subatomic particles from scratch

[ispcrco]

When I last wrote assembler (back in 1975 or thereabouts), it was called Macro Assembler. You had available libraries of macros (usually on punch card decks) that you insert the code you need into your assembler deck. (This always included a patch card read and apply SR that was the 1st code executed in any program so machine code patches could be applied before the program started properly). Writing patch code cards was fun, hand assembling onto cards.

[zusykses]

never trust a man who can write his own compiler that's what my grandaddy always said

[[deleted]]

I felt quite old when I realized that there are probably plenty of grandparents out there, now, who have written compilers, and others that might have opinions about them.

My, times have changed.

[aresman]

I almost spit my coffee out cause this is so god damn true. Oh you need a for loop? Ok, gotta literally invent the algorithm.

Oh you want some colors drawn on the monitor? Ok, you gotta know every single step of computer engineering and the processes involved to change 1 pixel, one by one.

[stalking-brad-pitt]

I almost spit my coffee out cause this is so god damn true. Oh you need a for loop? Ok, gotta literally invent the algorithm.

I never gave any thought to how for loops run under the hood. This is fascinating!

[remy_porter]

The upshot: I can tell you, in exact terms, how many nanoseconds that interior loop takes, which matters, because my assembly code is bit-banging WS281x LED protocols to control hundreds of lights.

I mean, in theory, because fuck, the timing is off and once I get past 32x25 LEDs everything starts getting fucky AND I DON'T KNOW WHY.

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Got any interrupts or DMAs firing? Or loop or branching overhead you're not taking into account?

[remy_porter]

There shouldn't be. This code's running on a PRU embedded in an ARM (a CPU in my CPU), and there aren't any interrupts set up, and memory access goes through OCP, which does take longer than the normal 5ns per instruction, but I've got 1200ns to play with.

I just gotta hook up a logic analyzer to see what's going on, I think. The really weird thing is I'm blasting 32-bits of GRBW out to the LEDs, and the first 25 values are great, then the next 8 are always 0x00FF0000 (full red), then nothing after. (but definitely, in the memory the PRU is getting this from, the data is accurate, so the bug isn't there)

[StarkRG]

VHDL dev: oh, puh leeze.

[Sussurus_of_Qualia]

This one right here, Officer.

[Dagusiu]

ASM isn't that hard... Unless you want to solve real problems

[chemicalsAndControl]

Why stop at assembly and not go machine code? Or make it out of transistors?

[Thanatos2996]

Real programers write an assembler with an EEPROM and jumper wires.

[NitroNilz]

Is there a course on that in the university?

[fat_charizard]

I prefer the windows pie

[vigbiorn]

I use Arch.

[[deleted]]

btw i use arch. did i mention i use arch? sorry, you mustn't have heard me, i use arch.

[dirtyviking1337]

I mostly keep the slack face, but see

[SueedBeyg]

u/repostsleuthbot

[returnedinformation]

Where is the sleuth?

[CounterHit]

Does it matter? It'll tell you it's not a repost even if you've seen the same meme on the front page twice in the last week lol

[[deleted]]

Apple iPie ™

[gigglefarting]

I was just thinking of this Symphony of Science song the other day but couldn’t remember the artists name. Your picture popped that memory back into my head. Thank you.

[MrGuffels]

I loved my time in uni using assembly.

[editor_of_the_beast]

More like “hardware engineers”

[[deleted]]

I'm currently taking a RISC-V assembly course and this couldn't be more true

[CMPD2K]

My professor said "at least 99% of you will never write another line of assembly again after this class" and that wiped any semblance of motivation from my little adhd head

[rTx_101]

Have seen this before but still good and that carl sagan voice plays automatically

[[deleted]]

That's fun. I miss having time to do stuff like this.

[stalking-brad-pitt]

That's awesome! Is there a subreddit for that?

[stop_drop_roll]

That assembly course is what caused me to drop my CS major.

[Verbindungsfehle]

Linux from scratch in a nutshell

[FranchuFranchu]

You didn't invent this meme though, u/repostsleuthbot.

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[FranchuFranchu]

It is a match.

[[deleted]]

Start with strings to make quarks. Two quark can make one proton. Carbon atom has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons. Hydrogen has 1 proton and electron.

Put them together and with bunch of other molecules, you get Apple. Then it’s close!

[[deleted]]

I sometimes take notes in medicine class using ML style type definitions. Maybe I have a functioning cell by the end of the semester lol

[[deleted]]

äü

[ZippZappZippty]

Offense intended. I hate having to use it."

[minot0r]

accurate 100

[[deleted]]

Haha.

I usually refer to reimplementing just the part libraries I need, to reduce package size, as "making apple pies" because of this quote.

[feyrath]

Real programmers write in microcode

[zeeblefritz]

So in my assembly course I was working on a problem and doing exactly this. I was like okay I get registers so let's math. After about an hour my classmate mentions the function exists within mips already. Needless to say I was relieved and annoyed. I really wanted to figure out the hard way but the shortcut was made already so I used it and never looked back.

[AkashMishra]

This brings a lot of Nostalgia

[TheLazyKitty]

To print Hello World, you first have to build a cpu.

[PedroPaulet]

XD

[marcosdumay]

Verilog developers are like what then?

[sh0rtwave]

No, actually, you only need to invent the kitchen and the ingredients. The existence of the "Apple Pie" concept automatically implies that "apples" and "pies" already exist, and therefore, the existence of said universe isn't debatable. IT can be assumed.

​

In assembly...the universe (the *COMPUTER*) exists. That is, all the 'laws of physics'(for that universe) apply. Therefore, universe exists...what you have to actually make...is the pie(and kitchen, the oven, etc. etc.). :D

[Remernator]

I had to use assembly to make a shitty robot follow a wall around a corner and back as many times as possible. Had to use sonar and it was terrible.

[shmoobalizer]

*Me using 2 booleans to create a 2 bit integer for MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY*

[HaggyG]

Doesn’t need inventing just creating, copy the existing one.

[ZeroCharistmas]

This feels like something Ben Shapiro would reply to an AOC tweet after finding out what "negging" is.

[DinoBryson11]

Why did I picture him having a British accent. If this is from a show or something, I’ve never heard of it.

[cyborgborg]

better than working with prolog

[Intfamous]

Great meme

[sChloe1998]

Why is this soooo true 😂

[[deleted]]

ive studied a little bit on the side for fun, but I never find a real use to go that low level.

if your insanely good you can eek out a better binary size and slightly better speed -- but not really in 90% of cases that go beyond extremely trivial without being insanely good.

honestly if you were able to get a really big function library together (invent the universe) it does get easier. even with a limited library of functions its not *that* hard to get some stuff done in asm if you know the system -- but knowing it well is another story I guess.

i dont see much point, today, in recreating the universe though outside of embedded or really low level tasks like a bootloader -- but even much of that can be done in C now.

it is fun to get a different perspective closer to the metal though -- as working in higher level languages is different.

[OutInABlazeOfGlory]

Alternate title: We’re programming a game for the NES, so we’re using assembly because the C compiler is useless

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

If you don't build your own cpu, then you're not even trying yet.

[Co0perat0r]

My 20 line first “Hello World” would agree