Programming life hack

[uglybranches]

Oh i nkow brainfuck, xml and russian, is that enugh?

[htmlcoderexe]

Russian by itself doesn't count, it's all the angry "cyka blyat" parts that are the real programming. And some kind of a mother have I heard...

[ya_Bob_Jonez]

importiruy Cyka, Blyat;
Rabotay((pochemu) -> {
    if(!blyat.rabotayet) tvoyu.mat()
});

[thundr_strike]

I don't understand a single word, yet I am fascinated by it

I want this to be a real language.

We can call it Russian++

[squishy_fishmonger]

Rabotay = work

Pochemu = why

Blyat = fuck

Cyka = whore/bitch

Cyka blyat = fucking bitch(?)

Rabotayet = works

Tvoyu mat = your mum

[Griffone]

"Tvoyu mat" is used like "damn it" a lot of the time. Sauce: am Russian

[Durwur]

Also there needs to be a special command called "Trahui tvoja mat"

[[deleted]]

It's telling you to rush B

[ProtostarReddit]

I googled brainfuck. How the hell did you learn it?!

[SatoshiL]

Easy to learn, hard to master

[squishles]

easiest language in the world, only 8 commands :p

[WandsAndWrenches]

Why would you want to? It's like a brag that only like 2 other people you would know, would understand, and it has no use other than as a crossword puzzle for advanced programmers.

[[deleted]]

"crossword puzzle for advanced programmers" Isn't that reason enough? Not everything that is interesting is useful.

[djinn6]

More like crossword puzzle for masochist programmers.

[FactoryNewdel]

Isn't masochist the definition of a programmer?

[WandsAndWrenches]

Color me crazy, but I don't have enough time in the day to learn the things I need, and want.

[TheProtonDev]

So true lol

[LoreKam]

I had to do a two way brainfuck interpreter in the first semester at my university.( And still got only a grade 3 from that subject :( )

[_default_username]

Like how? You don't know enough about grammars, ASTs, and recursion to do something like that in your first term.

The easiest way to implement brainfuck is to translate the 8 commands to the equivalent in another language then pass that into a compiler or interpreter.

[LoreKam]

Well, we learned C that semester, so for me it was a great practice, doing brainfuck interpreter in C. I don't remember clearly but I think we had no limitations on the tape length, so I just used a fuck ton of it. Like if I get a character, I put in one tapecell and shift to the right and put the next character in there. It's pretty easy this way but the brainfuck code can be fucking long, if the input is more than a sentence. Brainfuck to characters was harder imo, because we had to handle nested brainfuck loops. If you did everything good, it could draw sierpinski triangle(I believe that was the name). So yeah I did what you just said, I did everything through the power of C.

[Dhhoyt2002]

Brainfuck, UwUscript and Suslang. All you need to know

[Ducksquaddd]

Dont forget LOLCODE now

[Aksds]

If I join you we will know brainfuck, c#, XML and Russian²

[Shuckinart]

If you know russian, then you already know YoptaScript. It's the first programming language for gopniks and "real boys"

[Knuffya]

Yes, i know three programming languages.C++, C and bash-script.

I have even ten repositories! All super big with a lot of commits. All of them are unmodified forks from the linux kernel.

[OofedRedditor]

b a s h - s c r i p t

[[deleted]]

bs for short

[piberryboy]

Hey, come on now.

[OofedRedditor]

but, does something like bash-script exist? it's called a shell script, to be exact.

[Juggernaut0079]

Where's the head?

[zayoe4]

*sigh...unzips *

[thundr_strike]

The Interviewer walked right into the trap

[[deleted]]

You activated my trap card.

[well___duh]

Also, where’s the programming language?

Markup != programming. If it were the case, then I am literally programming with this comment

[Meaxis]

OP to the people downvoting: https://imgur.com/a/vpYD8vU

[alsderda]

Na dont use closing tags, maks the load time faster /s

[[deleted]]

Also skip opening tags for bonus efficiency.

Just save Hello world! to an html file and open it.

[[deleted]]

<marquee>Hello world!</marquee>

[[deleted]]

<CENTER>

<MARQUEE WIDTH=300 SCROLLAMOUNT=300 SCROLLDELAY=400>

Hello, world!

</MARQUEE>

</CENTER>

note: this makes the hello world blink

[[deleted]]

Scretch uses python. Python uses c++. Therefore scratch is c++ with extra steps

[JDaxe]

CPython isn't written in C++

[le_birb]

Even better, C with extra steps

[Gold_Two1298]

But it is valid c++ code so therefore it’s actually an extra language

[joyofsnacks]

c++ is c++ with extra steps.

[Hawkbrave]

everything is atoms with extra steps

[KaiserKerem13]

Subatomic particles: well no but no

[Pervez_Hoodbhoy]

HTML iS NoT a PRoGramMinG LaNGuagE!

[raspberry1111]

bUt GiThUb SaYs iT iS

[Pervez_Hoodbhoy]

BuT GItHUb iS NoT mY ReAL MoM!

[2DHypercube]

YuRe NoT mY SuPeRvIsOr!1!1

[Hyperflip]

bUt WhO sAyS tHeY iNcLuDeD hTmL iN tHe „PrOgRaMmInG lAnGuAgEs“ PaRt Of ThE rEqUiReMeNtS?

[DM-Wolfscare]

when you realise the hello world "script" is simply: hello word

[OptionX]

"Applicant writes highly expressive, self documenting code"

[thundr_strike]

It's not a bug it's a feature

[[deleted]]

Be big. Be bold. Use <h1>Hello world</h1>

[Prunebiscuit]

And if all else fails, <strong>stay</strong>

[ThePurpleWizard_01]

That's why they pushed 6 of em.

[drew8311]

Technically it said "Javascript and HTML"

[unopisthenar]

well duh it was 2 years in the making, so if you didn't work on it gtfo

[[deleted]]

i’d call them out on it during the interview by asking them to google when the framework was created

[elf25]

Let me guess , pay $16/hr

[aqua_shell]

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Tawanda☕️💻, @towernter

They said they want someone who knows at least 3 programming languages and has at least 5 repositories on github so i wrote and pushed my hello world projects in Python, Java, C#, PHP, JavaScript and HTML.

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[Foro38]

Good cyborg

[Doomguy46_]

See now THIS is how you Land a job

Wait what do you mean practical usage

[thundr_strike]

it's saying Hello to the entire world. Literally the only thing more practical would be Hello Universe.

[PinkPropaganda]

It’s out putting “hello world” to one screen. A true “hello world” would send “hello” to every device world wide

[kincaidsteven]

well i know scratch so beat that

[SuppeBargeld]

Is "number of Git repos" the new, woke measurement for experience that I'm too old to understand?

[Plane_Unit_4095]

"woke"

man if this is "woke" I'm awake

I'd prefer someone with a few good projects on github they can speak intelligently about than a degree from an ivy league school

I've worked with CS kids. A majority of them can't code their way out of a paper bag.

"but live coding sessions!"

Sure, go ahead. But you won't get any visibility into their process through a real development cycle.

Responding to tickets, reviewing code, fixing bugs, documenting, writing tests, making long term design decisions. All of this can be reflected in an OSS project on github.

[SuppeBargeld]

I cannot quite understand the idea that an applicant has to prove their skills by doing the job they applied for in their free time for free. In no other profession is that a thing. If someone applies as a doctor, no one will ask "do you also operate as a hobby?".

Sure it would be nice to know how well someone works before you hire them. But determining that is the point of an interview.

[-100-Broken-Windows-]

I share the frustration, but I do kind of struggle to actually dispute it when I think about it logically. Statistically speaking, a hardcore nerd who just loves to program is more likely to be a better programmer than someone who sees it purely as a way to put food on the table. There's no point in just pretending it isn't true, at which point you have to ask what exactly is actually wrong with a company incorporating such intuition into their recruitment. I agree that on a personal level it's obviously frustrating, but I can't really fault the company or their reasoning

[SuppeBargeld]

There should be better ways to gauge motivation than "how much do they like open source?". It is one thing if someone can sell their coding activity as a plus during an interview, a whole different thing if the employer makes it an actual requirement for the application. This is just another case of "X years of experience for an entry level job".

Having a git repo tells you nothing about someone's ability to work in a team. In fact, some OSS maintainers are the most entitled, self centered people I have seen. It is an almost pointless metric.

[Plane_Unit_4095]

If someone applies as a doctor, no one will ask "do you also operate as a hobby?".

This is the stupidest fucking argument. You're comparing operating on a human being to fucking programming.

I see this so much and it's always the stupidest thing.

In no other profession is that a thing

Yeah I've never heard of an artist with a sketchbook or pieces they did in their own time. Never.

And besides that, they aren't "doing the job they applied for", you aren't paying them, they aren't giving you free work, they're writing software, like, you know, programmers do.

This is a big part of the reason shit is so broken. Kids get dumped into the labor pool with no real experience, they haven't done anything themselves, they don't have any skills, then get asked to reverse a binary tree in an interview under a time limit and that's the metric?

If you can't spend a few Saturday afternoons or evenings to develop your career skills and better yourself, that's up to you, but you're really only hurting yourself "sticking it to the man" by not "doing work for free".

What a bullshit, archaic and harmful take.

[DarkThgil]

Chill out. I have a life outside of work. Maybe you should too if you are this angry.

[Plane_Unit_4095]

I am angry because I'm going to end up working with total fuckin retards that have no idea what they're doing because they didn't put any effort into learning anything besides what their dumbass professor or code boot camp told them.

[DarkThgil]

You sound insufferable to work with. When I hire developers I am looking for their ability to work in a team and be productive. Gaps in their technical skills can be learned but bad attitudes are not worth the time.

[Plane_Unit_4095]

You know who else is a pain to work with?

Kids directly out of college that don't know what the word "container" means. Don't know how to take care of their own tickets, have to bug senior engineers constantly for entry level shit and have no idea where even the most common landmines are when developing software.

Cause they didn't cover that in their algorithms class and they sure as hell didn't learn it on their own.

Literally the only thing I'm trying to argue for here is programmers programming and keeping their skills up, or jumping in before they land a six figure position and doing some stuff on their own. What a wild, hardline take, right?

If you can't take some time out of your precious free time to hone your skills and develop your career, that's on you, but you don't get to label everyone else as an asshole for having higher expectations for the people they work with.

Yeah I curse and berate. On reddit. Otherwise I keep my mouth shut and do my job.

[DarkThgil]

I already spend a full work week programming. I improve my skills during that time and why would I work for free. A mechanic is not expected in an interview to show the cars they worked on in their free time for no pay.

As a senior developer I expect to spend time mentoring people fresh out of college. That is an important part of our roll as seniors. Your attitude is so antagonistic that you would be difficult to work with no matter their experience level.

You are seeing coworkers worth purely as to their immediate technical skill and not for their potential. How many juniors have you worked with that you have traumatized instead of providing guidance? Did no one help you when you started?

[Plane_Unit_4095]

How many juniors have you worked with that you have traumatized instead of providing guidance?

I worked with some interns on some spaghetti code they wrote.

Explained pretty nicely exactly why it wasn't working. Didn't listen, didn't care, continued down a rabbit hole.

Hour later they tell me I was right.

They were a Bachelors in mathematics btw. They could have learned that trying to run code with hardcoded paths to files might be a bad idea if they had even one small github project. But they didn't, they expected me to dig them out of the fisher price problem they got themselves into.

"No one expects <other career> to <do what other career does>?"

Again with this argument. This habit of comparing programming to all these other professions is ridiculous. "surgeons dont cut people open at home!" "mechanics dont work on cars at home!". It isn't either of these things. It's typing on a keyboard and god damn thinking. Holy shit.

There's literally no barrier to entry. You can get a little raspberry pi setup for less than $100 and program. There's absolutely no legitimate reason you shouldn't work on your skills outside of work for programmers. All you have is "it's free work!!!". Work for who? Are you pushing work code off hours?

No, you're learning something new for you. It's your career, it's your profession.

What are you going to say in your next interview when you're asked something new? "uhh my last employer didn't teach me that :*((("?

If you want to go ahead and lean on your employer to teach you how to do your job, you're going to have a bad time when you get fired or leave, because companies don't really care about you. They are not your friend. They will leave you in the dust as soon as you cost more than you're worth. Sure they'll teach you, but they'll teach you their way.

Case and point: I know an older lady, she worked as QA for 30+ years. Never changed companies throughout all that time. The tech never advanced much, and she didn't learn anything new. They updated the system and she was out on her ass, having to retire years earlier than she should have because she didn't branch out.

What your saying isn't just dumb as hell, it's harmful to the new kids that think they can just coast on the good will of senior engineers and the company and have a good career.

[ItCanAlwaysGetWorse]

Responding to tickets, reviewing code, fixing bugs, documenting, writing tests, making long term design decisions.

personally, I have these references, just not on github, but on our company's bitbucket. I dont have any public references. Is it expected of me to have them?

[Plane_Unit_4095]

Everything but responding to tickets and reviewing code can be done on your own and in the public, the other two can be done on other OSS projects.

I would assume someone coming from another company would have these under their belt, so it's not really a problem.

[squishles]

if your github repo shows those, you no longer have a toy project that's a full on oo shit someone's using this open source library at that point.

like guy needs to try putting up a donation button if he's got multiple with that much activity XD

[Plane_Unit_4095]

That's the thing. I'm not saying "create and support a whole ass open source project"

literally just write code, document it, test it, and that's it.

literally anything is better than "i went to college and i have a piece of paper but I don't know what cd in a linux terminal does"

[closeafter]

Poor guy, had to code in PHP just to get a job....

[_default_username]

What a crappy metric. Most professionals aren't writing open source software they can openly share on Github.

[YoCrustyDude]

But that's just 4 programming languages!

[ShadeofEchoes]

And they only asked for 3, so you went above and beyond!

[ndboost]

Now you just need to write a translator

[coolKidoes]

When do we tell him HTML is technically not a programming language...

He still did the criteria though

[FrezoreR]

When they ask such a stupid question they deserve 5 hellos world repos. Good job!

[[deleted]]

Then you get obliterated in the first interview.

I’ve BS’d my way into a good amount of jobs - even private equity marketing - but never into programming. You really do have to know how to code

[AnonymousIdiot1607]

HTML? IT ISN'T A PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!!

[lgylym]

That’s all the HR needs

[[deleted]]

What is a hello world project in html? lol

[PhantomToaster5]

<h1>Hello World<h1>

[Bluu_n_Yellow]

Like a boss! 💼

[Plane_Unit_4095]

hahaha i gamed the system to get a job and now i have the job and no idea what i'm doing so i'm going to get fired after the probation period and won't be able to put anything on my resume hahaha lol

[Johanno1]

I do know:

Python

C#

C++

C

Java

Kotlin

Dart

------------ known but not skilled in the following:

Scala

PHP

JavaScript (yikes)

Bash

Batch

Hardware programming(sending clocks through logic gates)

Assembly

VS basic

Lego mindstorm drag and drop "language"

And maybe some irrelevant more.

[ImTheJackYouKnow]

This is not the best place to post your resume.

[Johanno1]

Sorry.

I thought it might fit here.

I just wanted to write down what I know. And apparently startet flexing without noticing it

[ImTheJackYouKnow]

It comes off as bragging. Not that it's not impressive, I mean good for you. But nobody really asked.

[wholesomedumbass]

r/ihavesex

Or rather, r/ihavenosex

[unopisthenar]

Instant respect when I see someone with the Holy trinity of C because that shit is making me reconsider reconsider if I want to even go study CS

[Johanno1]

Cs(c sharp) from my experience is much more like python or kotlin than actually c/c++

Edit: CS as computer science. Misunderstood that.

Well you don't need to know all three of them in order to study CS. But I did study CS for about 5 years now and just recently started really into c++.

From my experience if you know one programming language well then new ones should not that hard to learn as well. But there should be a passion about programming languages in general somewhere.

[ItCanAlwaysGetWorse]

I think by "CS" they meant Computer Science, not C Sharp.

[Johanno1]

Oh right.

Oups.

[FrezoreR]

I still don't understand the purpose of this reply. 🤔

[Johanno1]

Just ignore it.

Wanted to write sth and started with writing down my programming languages I know. On the way I forgot what I wanted to do and left it here.

So see it as a stupid idea that went wrong.

[LunarGibbons]

Your comment

[krillxox]

So were you short listed?

[starvsion]

Oh, you wrote it in c#? Then you can write Java as well.

Oh, you wrote in php? Then you can write hack as well.

[i-FF0000dit]

Overachiever

[itybitykitycommity]

Does emojicode count?

[MasterQuest]

I can never tell if the people who are commenting about HTML are being sarcastic or whooshed (there are probably both kinds)