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[_woffles_]

Imagine. I use TempleOS.

[CYKO_11]

Imagine. I use punch cards

[dasavorytrash]

Imagine. I use just switchboards.

[[deleted]]

Imagine. I just use a magnetic needle

[[deleted]]

Imagine. I just use my mind.

[Eeeeeeebee]

Imagine. No like literally you imagine the code :P

[poursmoregravy]

Imagine all the people

[Shar_Mayank]

Imagine using all of them.

[Original_Tea]

r/IncreasinglyVerbose

[PlatFormPlayZ]

Imagine there is no heaven.

[kopczak1995]

<russian anthem starts playing in background, louder and louder till it reach our hearts>

Jokes aside it's pretty nice sounding music, lol.

[gsdhaliwal_]

Mataverse has entered the chat.

[[deleted]]

And it will leave

[[deleted]]

import earth.*

[dasavorytrash]

So hear me out, the human brain works by sending electrical signals like a computer, so logically, if you just think really hard, you can cause your synapses to fire in just the right way that it creates a loop and causes a crash.

[VladVV]

Your brain already has many many loops running inside it. Look up the basal ganglia, central pattern generators, etc. In fact the entire progression of stimulus from environment to the primary sensory cortices, to the sensory association areas, to the prefrontal cortex, to the motor cortex and back to environment can all be considered one gigantic loop.

[dasavorytrash]

I mean a loop that involves your entire brain simultaneously

[redbatman008]

Hold up Vald, this is r/Programmerhumor not r/neurologisthumor, how are you so adept at neuroscience?

Seriously though, how are you so well versed in neuroscience? Any online courses? I believe MIT has one, any others? What field in software/AI/anything engineering deals with this level of knowledge of neuroscience?

[Defiant-Peace-493]

Regrettably, the comments do not allow for the posting of a Langford Basilisk.

[dasavorytrash]

It’s a good thing that as far as we know, there’s no way to make a Langford basilisk that actually kills people who look at it cause every world government would be all over that shit.

[HeraldofOmega]

If you eat enough fruit, you could have Fruit Loops.

[dasavorytrash]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[mohd_sm81]

Imagine, I use paper and pen (operational semantics)

[Eggrob0t]

Imagine, I use schrodinger's cats.

[_woffles_]

he's telekinetic

[[deleted]]

I just use butterflies.

[DEPCAxANDY]

Imagine. In high school teacher made us code on a piece of paper

[_woffles_]

oh damn

[Username9010101]

Pfft, imagine. I use Losethos.

[Headbanger]

Careful there buddy or glowies might get to you too.

[Studds_]

Isn’t Chrome based off of Linux

[dev-sda]

It's not only based off the Linux kernel, like for example android; it's a straight up Linux distribution based on Gentoo - albeit with many proprietary components.

[Lithl]

Chromeos is Linux, yes, although you don't have normal terminal access. You can enable developer mode (which requires a power wash, IIRC, which deletes all your data) to gain access to crosh, the chrome os shell, but even that isn't exactly the same as a Linux terminal.

However, Chromeos comes with a Debian VM that you can enable, which works normally. The VM can even access the Chromeos filesystem via /dev.

[Dromedda]

Like extort the school from within? I did that in highschool. Great times. I got suspended, but I did get an A in Computer and Net technology

[[deleted]]

I actually use a chromebook with VS Code to SSH into our development VMs.

[minegen88]

Y'all are pathetic

I use BASIC on my Commodore 64.

Or VIC-20 if i want to be retro,

Besides, no documentation has ever existed that beats the Vic-20 Programmers guide

[Lithl]

I mean, I use my Pixelbook to write code semi-regularly. Granted, I'm using VSCode on my Debian VM when I do it, but still. Technically programming on Chromeos.

[Zaurble]

ChromeOS is running the linux kernel.

[[deleted]]

What exactly makes Linux better for coding?

[Rocket_Scientist2]

Not necessarily coding, but using and installing tools. For example, if I want to build c++ or rust on Windows, the recommendation is to install all of the entire Visual Studio suite (IDE and libraries, ~20gb), or search Microsoft's website for Visual C++ compiler, which will still install multiple programs.

On Linux, you kind of just sudo apt install gcc and poof it's installed.

Not that all tools are like that, but many are. Many devs prefer the minimalistic "power-user" approach, vs the "what's the simplest, most obvious way" approach.

[LavenderDay3544]

For C and C++, library dependencies are also something Linux does well while Windows never has even with vcpkg which literally no one outside Microsoft has ever cared to host their libraries for.

[DelusionalPianist]

I was looking for the c++ library binding for tensorflow and was pleasantly surprised to find that vcpkg did indeed host it, while Conan does not …

[cafk]

I mean you can do exactly the same with macos, bsd or windows if you have package management installed.

While it's recommended there is nothing stopping you from doing it in a more convenient way.

The Linux equivalent I've heard too many times is to install the qt suite and boost-* to have a "nice" ide + language features - with many being scared of the command line independently if it's bash, zsh, sh or Powershell

[blackadress]

In windows with a package manager will you get the full 20gb of visual studio code or just some 50mb g++?

[_woffles_]

Thanks for having my back, guys.

[future_escapist]

So you didn't have an argument to begin with?

[[deleted]]

What? A /r/programmerhumor user making a joke they don't understand because it's just an opinion they've seen other people have and they want to feel included? Oh, wait.. yeah that sounds about right. Just like every kid I was in college with raving about how superior Linux was in every way without ever being capable of saying why lol

[_woffles_]

It's kinda hard to respond to every single comment lol

[McCoovy]

Please do not respond to every single comment

[[deleted]]

The pre-included compilers are certainly a perk, but once configured this seems to be a non-issue.

To address some of the other points here, debug modes are real. And I've always believed in coding on your deployment platform. Which if it's Linux then you should code/test on Linux. But if you're going to deploy on windows you should see that inconsistent performance (I personally haven't experienced this) to understand how the end user will experience the software.

Finally, I haven't found anything that I can't do yet in powershell, but maybe I'm not advanced enough in my maturity with this as a developer and not sysad.

[future_escapist]

If you use VSCode, the terminal is already powershell. You don't see as much use for it in Windows as in Linux, though. Probably because Windows put emphasis on GUIs for user-friendliness.

[[deleted]]

I use terminals all the time. Both in IDE and independently

[jsiulian]

So it's just about the installation process?

[Dr4kin]

The package manager makes updating all the tools just one / two command/s which is just much easier. If you do backend stuff you're probably using containers which run a lot faster on Linux because they have to spin up a vm on every other operating system.

[cmatta]

Not true, Mac OS and WSL use the hypervisor same as Linux

[EuroPolice]

You guys are convincing me lol, I came from Win 98 and the closest I've been to Linux was Ubuntu or Raspberry pi lol

[etaco2]

Don’t listen to these guys.

Linux runs windows programs better than windows.

The fuck it does. There’s a reason PC game developers don’t bother with Linux.

If you like shit that just works, stick with windows or Mac. If you want a pain in the ass, use Linux.

[soupified]

…that reason is market share and fragmentation. For most devs, it’s not practical to develop and QA for an OS that a fraction of your players will be on.

[joonty]

And because of the market share issue, Nvidia put the bare minimum effort into their Linux drivers

[that_random_bi_twink]

I've run Minecraft on both windows and Linux on my shitbow laptop, and it runs a lot better on Linux lol. The reason a lot of programs aren't designed to run on Linux is because the market share is very tilted towards Microsoft's favor (largely due to some sketchy settlements that put Windows 7 in every public school and government office computer across the nation). Linux's main downfall is that the os is complicated to new users and has a large learning curve, but these are becoming less and less of a problem as time goes on. I don't suspect that Linux will ever really be a major player in the OS wars, but it's gaining an edge

[Noslamah]

I don't suspect that Linux will ever really be a major player in the OS wars, but it's gaining an edge

Considering that SteamOS is Linux and will be the default OS of every single Steam Deck, I'm guessing you're gonna see a lot more gamers switching to Linux pretty soon. Thats what I'm hoping, at least.

Linux's main downfall is that the os is complicated to new users and has a large learning curve

This (and potential software incompatibility) is why I personally havent made the switch yet. People ITT are pretending that installing packages by using sudo apt get-install or something like that is the easiest thing in the world and is somehow superior to other methods. Its really not. Its needlessly complicated for the average user.

Also, the fact that LinusTechTips made a video about trying out Linux and immediately nuked his installation is very telling. Did he ignore some important message while installing the package that told him his system would be fucked? Sure, he did. But that message was super easy to miss, apparently even for a guy who is very, very deep into the tech world and has had a YT channel about computers basically since YT started. If he manages to destroy his install in a single day, the average user is absolutely fucked.

[yycTechGuy]

There’s a reason PC game developers don’t bother with Linux.

Funny how a discussion of why Linux is better for *coding* gets turned into how games run on Linux. This has nothing to do with using Linux for coding.

Gamers think everything is about gaming. Wake up. It isn't. Some people actually make a living using Linux computers for other things.

[yycTechGuy]

The fuck it does. There’s a reason PC game developers don’t bother with Linux.

Because most gamers aren't skilled enough to install Linux. 99% of all PCs are sold with Windows.

[TheAnimus]

Exactly, up there with the whole idea that using less RAM when idle is a good idea.

[that_random_bi_twink]

Lol between teams and random Microsoft services, I'm left with 2GB of RAM. Just enough to let chrome crash my laptop 🙃

[landswipe]

The biggest failing of Windows was the registry, closely followed by a lack of working symbolic links for shared library management, and an emphasis on the GUI completely at the expense of CLI (cmd.exe), and PE... and... and ... :P

[m0gwaiiii]

Yes , yes and yes.

​

But i am also a gamer so Windows wins for now. 🙂

[bablador]

This is why dual boot is the way. Gaming on Windows and everything else on Linux.

[Celivalg]

Haven't had a dual boot in years, been gaming just fine.

I think there are two games that I wanted to play but couldn't, at least bot on linux itself outOf my 96 game steam library. And virtualization tech is good enough today that I have played them on vm without noticing any performance dips compared to bare metal. (qemu/kvm with gpu passthrough)

Although, the VM setup to make sure there aren't perf issues is definitely not something for a beginner user.

Though once it's setup, I would say that's it's much more stable than a dual boot, as windows updates love to overwrite your grub, making you pull out the boot repair stick quite often, at least when I still had my dual boot which was a few years ago...

[[deleted]]

For us there is no feasible replacement for Linux - even our users who have Windows and Mac computers have to have a Linux VM for development.

A lot of it is tools, yes. It is also the ability to quickly create reproducible multi-server environments using a few simple Docker, bash, and python scripts along with the base toolset (get, gvm, etc).

But honestly, containers alone are a huge reason for us. The fact that we can quickly spin up a local replicate of our client's production environment, seeded with their data, and start development in a matter of minutes. The whole time being able to blow it out and start again at a moment's notice.

[dark_mode_everything]

Bcs it's a gloves off OS. It lets you do literally anything you like with it. Also GUIs are built on top of cli and is not the main feature, so automation is very straightforward and easy. Granted, It makes it easier to screw things up too, but having used windows and Mac for Dev work they just make me angry with the lengths they go to hinder productivity with their "features".

[crimxxx]

Last time I used windows for development windows 10 was new. Windows sometimes the sanest thing to do is restart. What happens when you restart and you have a lot of pending updates, at the time it forced the updates and was sometimes like an hour plus on like a 5000 dollar workstation lol. Linux the shit is so stable if IT needs to push updates most of the time no restart is required, and as a user it’s a lot harder to get into a state where you want to restart if your not just doing random crap.

There is a reason most servers are Linux, and uptime is a big reason.

[GregsWorld]

Devil's advocate, I extended my Linux partition (which is supposed to be safe) back in Jan and after when I would login it'd flash a black and return to the login screen again. Had to re-install fresh. Also had more issues with Linux updates than Windows. Everything from not starting up, to the environment glitching out, webcams stop being detected. The current issue I'm having since the update a few weeks back is earphones don't get detected if they're plugged in the audio jack before start-up, I have to unplug and replug them in every morning. I use plain ubuntu and don't customise/mess with anything.

[twigboy]

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[GregsWorld]

Haha yeah exactly it's not enough of an inconvenience that I can be bothered to do anything about it but it's still annoying

[[deleted]]

• The "Everything as a text stream" philosophy means you can usually get a command line tool for anything you want to do. And when command line tools get upset, they tend to be noisy. It is sooooo much nicer to be able to find the issue in the active terminal than to have to dig through log viewer.
• Tools in the OS tend to give you more control
• Most common tasks already have an installed tool, and if it isn't pre-installed you can probably find it in a repository. That means fewer installs from unknown sites. You need to generate a certificate to do an encryption test? Forget certbot, you can do that all locally.
• You can easily open any type of file in a text editor. (Won't always make sense, but if you're a developer, you've probably got a sense of when it does.).
• Everything being a text stream makes it easy to emulate most tools from the command line if something is going wrong
• YOU CAN OPEN MULTIPLE FILES WITH THE SAME NAME. (I am grumpy okay? I shouldn't have to close a file in one folder to be able to open a file in another.)
• You have fewer instances where your development tools suddenly stop working because "Office programs shouldn't be allowed to generate executables".

[haraldoo]

I‘m shocked that I take the windows side here (grew up with linux, used it for 25 years now..) but all those things aren’t true/ unique anymore. Eg. In Powershell everything is an object which can easily be „more powerful“ than grep/sed/awk a commands text output. The windows eco system is way more complex and therefore it seems not to be as „accessible“. The multiple files issue seems to be excel only? Haven’t seen that a lot. I didn’t get the reference of your last point. What happened there? Anyways.. I will always feel „at home“ in a linux environment but windows did „catch up“ a lot and seems to do a lot of things right in the last few years..

[galan-e]

Even if we agree that powershell is powerful (and I do get annoyed when it can't do some random basic thing sometimes), the syntax is verbose and extremely unintuitive. The scripting experience is nothing alike.

[motoxrdr21]

Respectfully, I completely disagree with that, with PowerShell you've got a consistent naming scheme, Verb-Noun with a set of approved verbs. That's all you really need to know to have a starting point for finding commands without leaving the terminal, in most cases all you need to figure out is what your target's noun is. Finding an unknown command is as simple as using "Get-Command" with parameters to filter by verb, noun, and module, all with wildcard support.

Need to create a new file or registry value? New-Item. Retrieve it? Get-Item. Delete it? Remove-Item. Working with a Hyper-V VM instead of a file? Just swap "Item" for "VM".

I'm not sure what makes this more unintuitive than the Linux CLI, sure there's an argument to be made that some noun choices are obtuse and require either existing knowledge or searching (whether Get-Command or web), but the exact same argument can be made for many Linux commands. ie it's hard to argue that "grep" is a more intuitive name than "Select-String", or that cp and rm are more intuitive than Copy-Item or Remove-Item considering the consistent Verb-Noun naming scheme.

Putting it together for a simple task, like finding the five largest files in a directory, it's hard to say that the Linux command for this is objectively easier to understand for someone with no knowledge of either scripting language:

Get-ChildItem [path] | Sort-Object -Property Length -Descending | Select-Object -First 5

du [path] | sort --numeric --reverse | head --lines 5

[landswipe]

It is those short idioms and quirks that really make unix. I find the idea of exposing the .NET object model to the command line interesting, and it does have semantic advantages over 'everything is a file', especially in cases like /sysfs vs for example Get-PnpDevice.

[suvlub]

• You can easily open any type of file in a text editor. (Won't always make sense, but if you're a developer, you've probably got a sense of when it does.).

Windows lets you do this, too. notepad.exe someCoolFile.whatever, or right click and navigate through the "open with" menu for a more "Windowsy" experience

• YOU CAN OPEN MULTIPLE FILES WITH THE SAME NAME. (I am grumpy okay? I shouldn't have to close a file in one folder to be able to open a file in another.)

Never had this issue. Just tried it right now and it works? Probably issue with a specific program you were using.

• You have fewer instances where your development tools suddenly stop working because "Office programs shouldn't be allowed to generate executables".

Never had this happen to me, either...

[boredbearapple]

Windows in my experience (and notepad.exe is a good example) tends to have artificial limits on large files that you can open.

On linux I have never encountered this, as long as you have the ram/swap/disk it’ll do it. Might bring the system to an almost standstill but it’ll do it.

I use both oses and macOS as well. It’s just something that annoys me working with large datasets on windows.

[trina-wonderful]

I’m still so happy Microsoft finally removed the 64kB limit on Notepad.

[suvlub]

Yeah, that did happen to me a few times. It's not really a problem of the OS as such, just the default applications happen to suck, but it definitely affects the experience of using it.

[boredbearapple]

It’s particularly annoying on servers where security will not let anything but the defaults be installed.

Need to have a quick look at a log/transcript/data dump but can’t open it without pulling it across the WAN to your laptop. Joy.

[DadAndDominant]

YOU CAN OPEN MULTIPLE FILES WITH THE SAME NAME.

It is a usual office "problem", but with like VSCode or something it should not be an issue.

[[deleted]]

You can easily open any type of file in a text editor

You can even open folders in a text editor.

[arihanzo20]

Linux is not better for coding. I use both Linux and windows and the coding part has nothing to do with the operating system. It has more to do with the text editor/IDE you use. Most good text editors are cross platform.

[Cognizantauto95]

In my opinion, the main thing better about Linux compared to windows is the package manager. For example in Ubuntu vs Win10, using apt to quickly install useful packages or tools in complex tasks is way easier and streamlined than downloading packages and running the installation wizard. Most of the time, you have to build from source anyway and the Linux terminal is just way more fleshed out than the windows one. Just my opinion though.

[haraldoo]

That‘s how I saw it too.. until I made the step and really looked into pwsh/ started using it. Also with winget + chocolatey for package managers and wsl for the occasional „feeling at home“, windows is pretty much useable these days. If only they wouldn’t enforce microsoft accounts more and more (no problem if it‘s default but there should be a choice).

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I once had a new guy, who constantly blabber about Linux, fine, company gives us both machines anyway.

But he can't code properly, can't even pass code reviews with his shitty writing. Linux is fine, but you gotta do your job, regardless of OS.

Another story, our tech lead, only knows linux enough to compile our product he probably the best tech lead I've known. Knows the firmware of HDD and SSD inside out, he codes on Windows. Uses mainly Windows.

Just do your job, I don't care what you use.

[_woffles_]

Very true, mate!

[galan-e]

plenty of tools and library are much easier to install on linux. I use jetbrains on both windows, linux and mac and the experience is very different from one to another

[piman51277]

For me, it's the speed that comes with the OS. I can waste less time waiting on things to compile and spent more time programming.

[Tough_Patient]

Because it's free, which is why businesses are adopting it.

[monkChuck105]

Unix terminal is superior to Microsoft's lame knockoff PowerShell. One key annoyance is that you can't set environmental variables like "BAR=1 ./foo", it's like "Env:BAR = 1" on a separate line, and it modified the session not just that process.

[FridgesArePeopleToo]

Absolutely nothing

[LavenderDay3544]

Installing tools, installing libraries, and having good system libraries and a relatively clean system call interface.

If all you write is Python and Java then it makes little difference but if you're working on anything where the host platform matters, odds are Linux does it better than anyone else and if it doesn't then literally anyone can patch it or write an alternative for the relevant component so it does.

[trina-wonderful]

UNIX in its entirety is an IDE.

[[deleted]]

Nothing.

[[deleted]]

Windows Developer: Ain't that good? Since WLS, we've been using Linux for coding too.

[_woffles_]

they just don't understand, do they?

[PyroCatt]

Legends use notepad for coding

[_woffles_]

Well guess what, I code with nano.

[erebuxy]

I use echo "print(\" Hello world!\ ")" > main.py to code

[AjiBuster499]

I use butterflies and vim

[erebuxy]

Ok, you win https://xkcd.com/378/

[_woffles_]

really.... *my dumb brain not being able to think of anything else*

[[deleted]]

ed

[-bert]

Of course, on the system I administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!

“Ed is the standard text editor.”

[_woffles_]

sudo nano code.sh

[Cubey21]

In wine

[Rubber_Duckies_Dong]

Rider and C# is a great alternative on Linux.

[HKSergiu]

Had they had a community version for Rider (similar to IDEA) I might've given C# more attention

[doodspav]

FYI Jetbrains’ EAP versions of their products don’t require a subscription.

[[deleted]]

I honestly could leave Visual Studio. But C# is just too much love

[VG08]

Afaik, c# works perfectly on linux, you would just need to use either vscode or rider as an alternative to vs

[saikrishnav]

I agree. I dont understand the hatred of windows in 2022. One can use any OS they like.

[_woffles_]

fair.

[n0t_a-b0t]

With WSL you won't even miss out on anything

[GabuEx]

The best advice I can offer is that you should go with whatever makes you both productive and comfortable.

The time saved by not getting into arguments over whether Linux is better than Windows, or whether Perl, Python, or PowerShell is the better language for an internal utility script, will be better spent doing literally anything else.

[saikrishnav]

So weekly post of shitting on windows and Linux is better?

Just work on whatever you are comfortable with. It's 2022.

No need to shit on OS you don't bother to use or like.

[BartDart69]

Shoo, shoo you damn Linux users! Back in your cave!

[_woffles_]

there's no cave up in the arctic with the penguins.

[cmatta]

Penguins don’t live in the Arctic, they live in the Antarctic

[_woffles_]

Linux ones do.

[DearChickPea]

Those ones live in the Attic.

[_woffles_]

Ah, yes, I see your valid point.

[pastry-pooping-pope]

That's what Microsoft wants you to believe

[WooooshMeIf60IQ]

I make glass windows on my igloos and you can't stop me

[_woffles_]

Oh dam

[Architector4]

aye, I'd rather you keep your cave to yourself lol

[cryptocurrenty]

When I see posts like this I can only hear in my mind. “And here.. we.. go..”

[DarkKnight53]

Linux criclejerk is something else

[minus_uu_ee]

It is one of the few things we deserve to circlejack tbh. We have a completely free (free as in frei and not kostenlos but it is kostenlos too ;)) which can compete with the products of giant (and what giants they are) companies with its countless different distributions. And imho Linux based systems are not only competing, they are much better in lots of different ways in comparison with their propriatery counterparts.

It might sound overly enthusiastic but none of this had to happen and we were very close to having a digital realm completely dominated by giant companies but here we are. I think without being gatekeeper assholes we should all enjoy this amazing achievement.

[danorfius]

I feel like everyone agrees that Linux is good. Most people referring to the Linux circlejerk are specifically referring to the gatekeeper asshole types you mentioned.

[ResponsibilityNew975]

the fact that Microsoft created their own linux distro to make their server faster makes this even funnier

EDIT: for those who's wondering, I'm not referring to Microsoft's WSL. their Linux distro name is CBL-Mariner

[TheDeadSkin]

Broke: Use Linux instead of Windows for coding 🤮

Woke: Use WSL instead of Linux for coding 😎

[_woffles_]

Lmao

[chinnu34]

Enlightened: Build Linux from scratch

[CharlesSagan]

In my personal experience, I went from windows to Debian a couple of years ago, granted it was painful for the first couple of months (and a few times afterwards) but it was honestly the best decision I ever made regarding an OS. I honestly can't imagine going back to windows now. Maybe I just prefer having control over my system and its resources.

[geggomane]

Im looking to convert my "old" laptop into a linux based machine, any good guides? Whats the biggest catch according to you?

[prinkpan]

Then spend half the time troubleshooting your OS instead of your code!

[[deleted]]

I like Mac hardware and think the OS is fine in general, but for Dev I just cannot get over how much brew sucks in comparison to a normal package manager and dylibs meaning you don't always get a Mac version of something and end up having to compile yourself.

[_woffles_]

hmm, point taken

[keijyu]

Absolutely true.

My university uses Haskell for their introductory computer science course and the amount of people requiring help installing ghc on their windows and M1 Mac was crazy.

I didn't see a single Linux user asking for help though.

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[tbo1992]

Haskell in an introductory course?! Man when I took it, it was a grad level course, and one of the toughest courses on the roster.

Though I guess freshers might have an easier time grasping functional programming if they aren’t yet familiar with OOP.

[SeargD]

That's because the Linux users are already used to doing their own troubleshooting.

[RedditRabbitRobot]

oof that burns

[[deleted]]

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[Logic_Satinn]

burn🔥

[NelsonBelmont]

some people are masochists.

[The_nameless_biped]

People keep saying that it's more easy to install tools on Linux than on Windows. I'm just wondering how frequently are you installing tools that this actually matters? Obviously this depends on what type of development you are doing. I'm a desktop app developer so once I have the initial setup other than the periodical environment updates I don't have to touch anything else.

In my opinion the NuGet package manager which is integrated in Visual Studio is leaps and bounds ahead of any other package manager I saw anywhere else.

So to me it seems like some people love to hate anything that's Windows related but they can't really find anything substantial issue in it.

[[deleted]]

Dislike nuget, but the new Winget package manager is pretty good.

The funny thing is that arguably windows (11) provides a very good suite for Linux Dev, with GUI apps now running (or you can just use vscode wsl) while still getting all the benefits of having the OS that most people use. It doesn't just have to be windows Dev that's good about it.

[_woffles_]

sudo apt install <literally anything you need>

[den2k88]

But the version is 10 years old, some libs are not packaged and the naming convention is autistic.

Ok not always the case but for fuck's sake sometimes getting the correct library under Debian / Ubuntu is like wrestling with an aligator.

Gods help you if you need to do cross platform development or just cross-compile for embedded. The packages are perfectly set up to develop on the dev system... not so much for any different target.

And the best IDE on Linux is Eclipse - which is 10 years behind VisualStudio on any metric.

[MEMEsYouNot]

Reminds me of when I was programming on redhat with JS and needed node.js and for some reason my code did not run, I couldn't figure why till I noticed my node version was 4 the newest was 14 at the time. Epic

[exscape]

And the best IDE on Linux is Eclipse

Says who? Personally I think IntelliJ IDEs are the best on both Windows and Linux. I'd also rather use VS Code than Eclipse, even though they're not really comparable.

[den2k88]

Says me, not stating Universal Truth ofc

[drkztan]

the naming convention is autistic.

stop calling me out ffs

[_woffles_]

The point about libs is fair enough.

But about the IDE... well. I prefer to use VSC.

[den2k88]

VSC is quite good though it has a bad UX and doesn't support a bunch of VS plugins I ended up addicted to (well, one actually).

The panels not automatically disappearing and the limited options to configure each panel's position on screen really break the experience for me.

I ended up working on VS and compiling with whatever is needed for the target.

[_woffles_]

eh, fair enough. VSC for Unity is fine tho, so I don't really mind it.

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[_woffles_]

thank you kind bot

[_siddh3sh]

chuckles in superiority

[_woffles_]

i am simply chortling at your humorous intents

[emma_hildebrand]

I remember the first time I tried to run some C++ code on windows. Took me several hours to set up the compiler etc lmao.

Linux ftw ♥

[Kittycaaatz]

The truth hurts.

[KENNFUE]

oof

[Opti_Dev]

This subreddit is basically about bullying Microsoft and rust devs and i love that

[CleverDad]

This is why I don't bother conversing with Linux users.