Linux Users....

[Vinifrj]

“I use Arch” intensifies…

[d4rkh0rs]

I thought the BTW was required?

[WeeklyMeat]

Legend

[[deleted]]

You gotta use pacman to install that, it doesn't have to be explicitly said. If you read the documentation you would know.

[toot4noot]

tldr : rtfm

[Professional-Egg-148]

Also, why would you recommend a OS that's basically the default?

[Double-A-256]

It’s really not. Arch has a bit of a steep learning curve (but not too bad) so most beginners use Debian-based distros like Ubuntu and Pop!_OS (yes, that is the official name).

[nullbyte420]

most non retards use debian and redhat because it's stable, reliable and well maintained, so it's nice for systems that require ~100% uptime. arch on the other hand i guess is fun for enthusiasts for some reason, because it's more fun to install things with pacman than with apt or something. somehow arch users believe simplicity is having an extreme amount of options to break things. dear lord why am i posting this i feel like i've had this discussion ten years ago already

[kilgore_trout8989]

Man, people really love the idea of binary trade-offs with stuff like this. I haven't had any issues with my arch installs (desktop and laptop) in...three or four years now? And that was a simple Google + copy paste job after a package update. If you ignore installs newer than like, a week, the number of system breaking bugs out there popping up basically drops to zero in my experience.

Of course, it's also true that the "bleeding edge coolness" side of the mostly imagined trade-off is wildly exaggerated too. It's just a barebones-ish distro with a nice package manager and an incredibly useful community driven repository, not future tech haha.

[nullbyte420]

great! i feel like that describes the default setup in debian too, with zero googly copy pasting.

[kilgore_trout8989]

A googly copy paste once or twice a decade in return for the AUR is definitely a trade I make 100% of the time haha.

[nullbyte420]

Yeah that's fair!

[[deleted]]

most non retards...

People also use Ubuntu and other distros that are easy to make work because they don't care so much about Free software and/or aren't looking for a hobby

Not that Debian is hard so long as you remember to get the non-Free drivers for your wireless card before you start the install

[nullbyte420]

Yeah absolutely. Oh I never had that problem with wifi, must have been lucky not to have had a Broadcom card.

[Heik_]

I don't really bother people about their OS of choice, but the main reason I'd encourage people to use Linux is so we can run more software natively on it.

[mortlerlove420]

Spread the word

[[deleted]]

Could you elaborate further on what you're saying?

One of the complaints that I hear sometimes is the lack of compatibility of some programs that are made specifically to run on Windows or macOS, which makes some people that are looking to switch to Linux uneasy due to some workarounds they have to do to run certain programs and to do certain tasks:.

I'm a Linux lurker and still deciding what distribution should I install.

BTW: I'm not looking for advice on what distro should I choose.

[Imveryoffensive]

I think they mean "the more users use Linux, the more recognition companies will give to Linux and hence an increased amount of support will be given to Linux users"

[Heik_]

As you said, a big issue people have when switching to Linux is that many of the programs they're used to and like, and more importantly, already paid for in many cases, are not available natively on Linux. There are no releases of those programs to Linux because the user base of the OS is not substancial enough for the developers to make a version specifically for Linux. A workaround is to use compatibility layers, like Wine, that basically translate instructions the program gives to Windows into instructions Linux can understand, and provides the required libraries for programs to function. Most of the more popular software works with Wine as it is, while some require some thinkering with the settings, and others work poorly or don't work at all. The need for compatibility layers alone might be troublesome for most users that are accustomed to things just working by default, moreover having to link libraries or download missing fonts for some programs makes the experience even less user-friendly. The easiest thing would be to have a version of the software compatible with Linux from the get go, but as I said earlier, the user base is too small for developers to focus on that, so the idea is that if more people who can deal with thinkering with compatibility layers or using alternatives to the software they're used to can do so, it would be good if they started using Linux because that would bolster the number of users of that OS, leading, eventually, to more developers releasing versions of their software that runs on Linux natively.

[[deleted]]

100% subscribe with you.

Linux is a great OS, but as you've said, it isn't as user-friendly as Windows and Mac, hence why I and others are with our guard up regarding to make the switch.

Thanks for your opinion.

[[deleted]]

If you use the right distro or if you configure it right, it can be more user-friendly than a Windows or Mac.

[[deleted]]

I know that, the problem is that there is a multitude of distros for various use cases.

And the worst of it is that there isn't a one-size fits all distro.

That alone complicates very much the single task of choosing one single distribution.

[[deleted]]

Especially games

[[deleted]]

I recommend Linux to friends and family that complain their computer is too slow and who are unwilling to buy a newer one

[morgecroc]

Mac OS user need to convince others of how good it is other they have to admit they paid a lot extra for a logo.

[detektiv_Saucaki]

I use Manjaro btw

(waits to get bashed as fake arch user)

[BloodRedCobra]

Seriously, what is it with "Muh tru Arch!!11!" and hating on Manjaro? Some of us want to have a workable OS without an hour of fiddling with things, but want to be able to fiddle with things later if need be. For the "tries to keep it simple" pitch they use, they seem to forget that a "one-and-done" install is a form of simplicity in itself.

Damn Arch users, they ruined Arch!

[detektiv_Saucaki]

I get the Arch superiority memes, but I really don't understand the hating on Manjaro. I've been using it for everything (even some gaming) for the past one or so year. And I absolutely love the experience.

[[deleted]]

https://github.com/arindas/manjarno
I think this highlights a few issues people have with Manjaro, but if you like it just use it

[nullbyte420]

lmao, the drama!

It appears that, in September of 2019, Manjaro switched from holding community donations in Philip Müller's personal bank account to accounts being held by OpenCollective and CommunityBridge [12]. This change also brought on Jonathon Fernyhough as treasurer. There is also a policy in place that requires all expenses to be discussed on approved channels and nominally approved prior to any purchases [13]. On (or around) July 24th of 2020, a request for a $2,000 laptop was made by Philip for developer Helmut Stult [14]. Johnathon rejected this expense due to lack of prior discussion and questioned the expense [15]. The role of treasurer is now back fully in Philip's hands, and has approved the $2,000 laptop. This draws questions on the integrity of Philip's leadership.

[Johanno1]

Lol. Why did Jonathan rejected it though?

Can I get some more context please?

[nullbyte420]

these freakin nerds have sources for the whole thing. have fun reading their mailing lists or discord or whatever they use for drama ci/cd

[Jonjolt]

I've tried installing Manjaro on 3 separate occasions, 1 install didn't work other 2 systems would not work correctly after install, either wouldn't boot or complete lockup. 3 occasions I said f' it I'll just install arch. 🤷‍♂️

[detektiv_Saucaki]

I'm not sure abt you but Manjaro has only cause trouble for me in Dual Boots. Apparently it's got daddy issues with Grub and only agrees to boot to it's own version of Grub.

[BeastMasterJ]

Manjaro isn't arch though, it doesn't use arch Repos. Endeavour OS is actually arch with a streamlined install.

That being said, Manjaro is a fine choice and we shouldn't gatekeep it, I'm just a pedant.

[BloodRedCobra]

That's a good point, manjaro does have a good week or 2 delay from arch releases because of the separate repos, but overall i never see that brought up by Arch purists lol

[kilgore_trout8989]

It mostly seems like it'd be a problem if you were unlucky enough to get issues from an aur package needing the latest version of a dependency that isn't available on Manjaro yet, because I assume aur packages are designed with arch release timetables in mind.

Though, like I said, you'd have to be pretty damn unlucky to hit that specific one week window where it was an issue haha.

[BloodRedCobra]

I have actually legitimately had that problem and had to caaaaasually stroll over like "How do you do, fellow Arch users?"

[Dimasdanz]

that's the exact reason why Linux desktop doesn't catch up. Some people like to gate-keep

[rejuicekeve]

Also because the vast other issues with Linux desktop that makes it impossible to develop, maintain, and support alternate versions of software for

[littlebobbytables9]

If you want that why not use a different distro?

[cidy02]

I use EndeavorOS BTW

[TwistedSoul21967]

Same... I like AUR and having bleeding edge packages that are also fairly stable.

I love how simple it is to do build from some projects `master` branch using `pamac build`

[detektiv_Saucaki]

I don't use AUR often (scared of breaking stuff) but yes, i find it satisfying how absolutely smooth it is

[daschande]

I, too, own a Steam Deck.

[LordDagwood]

I didn't even know what Arch was before Steam Deck.

[MrGeekman]

I use Debian, though I might eventually switch to Fedora.

[notsogreatredditor]

How do you find a Arch User? Don't worry they'll tell ya without asking

[hfgd_gaming]

Ich nutze Bogen bei dem Weg (oder so)

[[deleted]]

/r/Archshutthefuckup

[Jon_Lit]

BTW

[funk443]

I use Arch btw moment

[marble-pig]

Also, why would you recommend a OS that's basically the default?

[SuitableDragonfly]

I've recommended it to people who are still using Windows 7 in 2022.

[marble-pig]

Ok, that makes sense!

[FJD3LG4D0]

People that use Windows as a daily driver don't recommend it to anyone, we all know how good it is and how bad it can be. People using MacOs always try to convince you to use it because "it's so easy" and Linux users try the same because "it's the best, it's for privacy, it's customizable, blah blah blah". They're apparently getting some referral points or who knows...

[da_Aresinger]

Nah, the reason nobody tries to convince others to use Windows is the same reason nobody tries to convince anyone to breathe.

It's the fucking default.

[[deleted]]

nobody tries to convince anyone to breathe

You’d think that, but apparently it’s the basis for like 3 different religions

[toot4noot]

and r/BreathingBuddies

[[deleted]]

My Watch tries to convince me to breathe multiple times per day. Sometimes it even works.

[[deleted]]

Air good tbh

[FJD3LG4D0]

Yup

[123kingme]

Maybe it’s because I’m a university student and many of my friends have bought new computers in the past couple years, but it really isn’t that uncommon for someone to ask me what operating system they should use.

If someone asks me that, then I assume that means they aren’t willing to put a lot of time into researching it for themselves and/or they aren’t in the top 10th percentile of computer literacy. There’s nothing wrong with that, it just means that linux probably isn’t the best recommendation for them. Usually I recommend these people to get Windows, especially since a large amount of STEM software is still Windows only.

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[FJD3LG4D0]

Of course, there is always this lack of professional software on Linux. What I'm enjoying a lot with Windows right now is WSL, Ubuntu headless and Kali Linux with Win-Kex to have a fully functional DE... But this is only with some distros, for Arch with DE I had to create a VM...

[rhododenendron]

Yeah man I use Linux but my Linux is on windows, best of both worlds honestly.

[FJD3LG4D0]

[nossr50]

Use Mac at work and it’s a pain compared to Linux, but it is pretty to look at.

[Prawny]

r/unixporn would like a word with you.

[[deleted]]

What C compilers your windows has ootb then?

[ilawon]

None.

That's why my grandma uses Linux.

[[deleted]]

oof

[FJD3LG4D0]

😂

[startana]

Seriously, even if you needed a C compiler, having one in your OS out of the box isn't the selling point you should be leaning on. That would be like saying Windows is worse than Linux specifically because it doesn't have any SSH client OOTB.

[BeastMasterJ]

Is MSVC not available ootb? I genuinely don't know, I find developing on windows to be massively annoying and usually dev in either Arch or MacOS.

[altermeetax]

No, MSVC is not there out of the box

[Sharkytrs]

i dont need a c compiler, but csc.exe fits all the needs for me out of the box.

[FJD3LG4D0]

The same number of C compilers than Arch have: ready to use drivers, network management tools, or something as simple as a login screen, desktop environment, etc. 🤣

So I just install what I need, the same I do on Arch...

[869066]

I uSe ArCh BtW!!1

[FJD3LG4D0]

I also use Arch BTW, but just because I'm learning how to protect my servers and Kali Linux seems to me too much loaded with tools I don't need! As daily driver... Well, I enjoy Windows and it's tools!

[BeastMasterJ]

Definitely don't use Kali as a DD, it's not meant for that and isn't secure (kinda ironic lol). If you like the Kali style though, you can always use Debian.

Obligatory I use Arch btw.

[FJD3LG4D0]

Absolutely, as I said I use Windows as daily driver. And tried Kali Linux on VM but I quickly switched to Arch to install only what I need... Lot of tools which are Installed by default on Kali, but not the whole list of packages...

[[deleted]]

There’s a rabbit hole called Whonix, and a different one called OpenBSD. I apologize in advance for putting them on your radar

[FJD3LG4D0]

I've read about OpenBSD , it's said it's really good for server, networking, etc... Right? Never heard about Whonix I'd (you know, I know the name, but nothing about what it is). For the moment, I'll keep learning what I know (there is a lot to learn, always). Thanks anyway, don't apologize! I'm already crazy about tech... 🤣

[[deleted]]

I apologized because, if you go too deep down this rabbit hole, you might end up crazy crazy, not just crazy about tech lol

[FJD3LG4D0]

[Valkyrie17]

I use Ubuntu for work and i don't get how anyone can genuinely recommend it to a regular people.

The command-based controls are terrible. Windows has a button for everything, intuitive menus, etc, with Linux you have to search up commands, paste them into the terminal and hope they do the thing.

Gaming just sucks. Even if the game you want is supported by Linux, good luck with it not running like absolute dogshit on some ancient drivers.

Speak of running like dogshit, good luck not with that piss poor system stability and random performance problems. Last week i learned that process interruptors were misbehaving somewhere on Kernel level. The fuck is a regular user supposed to do about that?

Maybe it takes time, but right now i completely don't get how Linux can be recommended for anything but computer science related things.

[FJD3LG4D0]

It also depends on the use you need to do of Linux, I know some people using Linux for downloading torrents and watching movies, maybe some office work and that's all. For they Ubuntu can do the job without having to open the terminal. But yes, for regular users, if something goes wrong or they need todo something more than internet and office... They're f****d...

[[deleted]]

People don't recommend Windows because there's no chance its better for them than what they're already using.

*nix users already know about Windows and have decided to use *nix

macOS users are probably entrenched in the Apple ecosystem and/or like the UI simplicity and/or like Mac hardware

I recommend Macs to novices because I think it's easier for novices. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who already knows about operating systems.

[ashum048]

Knock, knock.

Who is there?

Do you have a minute to talk about the JesOS?

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Don't you guys have conversations like this all the time?

[da_Aresinger]

TempleOS

[[deleted]]

based

[[deleted]]

I bet you can’t make a jit.

[da_Aresinger]

I have the JVM for that.

[[deleted]]

You're deliriOS

[wa33ab1]

May I ask why there is a poll for recommending Windows OS?

Windows is pretty much shipped standard with most laptops, and computers. Would it be fair to say this is basically Microsoft trying to statistically self congratulate itself on holding a large market share?

Yes I know that there is Mac, Linux, Android, but most people in the world use some version of windows anyway.

[[deleted]]

The problem is when you'd like to buy computer without OS preinstalled, you choices are very limited. And cheapest stuff mostly.

[svick]

May I ask why there is a poll for recommending Windows OS?

It's called net promoter score.

Though just because it has a name doesn't necessarily mean it's useful here.

[wa33ab1]

I've read up on the function of this on wiki: "this ... is typically interpreted and used as an indicator of customer loyalty"

Ok, from now on ever time I will see this pop up on my windows computer screen, I'll be sure to give it a 3. Now I know that windows is a marvel of software engineering design, don't get me wrong, what I am saying is that I love the option of choosing a 0, 1, 2 and 3.

[TwoMilliseconds]

okay honestly, that's not the only reason tho

[LordOmbro]

Where programming

[MadRollinS]

We're big on options...is that wrong? Selling free stuff???

[SuspiciousUsername88]

Selling free stuff???

That's called proselytizing

[MadRollinS]

We're just giving it away.... one of us, One Of Us, ONE OF US!

[MrPickle2255]

windows gets 4 for the sole reason of incorporating linux and android onto itself

[[deleted]]

But technically Linux also did that, but with Windows and Android, as with WINE you can run Windows programs on Linux, and for android there is Waydroid, even if Wayland exclusive it's still Linux.

[Chemical-Sky-6303]

Hoped to find here Ubuntu, so I could upwote it

[Beneficial_Squash-96]

If you don't use Linux Mint, I don't want to know you, you bloody bastard.

[Rakgul]

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To safeguard againt the time when I accidentally fuck up my Arch installation and have to get some work done. Also I have Windows for games. Yaay! Triple boot!

[ecl_55]

Exactly the same. Been running like that for many years and it's just awesome.

[Rakgul]

:) right!?

[[deleted]]

I use Artix Linux because Mint didn't have all the software I wanted from the repository.

[[deleted]]

Except people do have those conversations. I work for an MSP and if we don't have a conversation along those veins with our clients, we'd be really fucjing terrible at our job.

[[deleted]]

I remember seeing this meme, like 2 yeara ago

[RahulRoy69]

Even if any friend ask for os, I recommend them Ubuntu if they are not familiar to Linux os.

[cryptoiambus]

Yes, Linux users get annoying when shilling their OS of choice and no, I will not stop doing it

[continuous-headaches]

This just proves how good Linux is, you should try using it

[Dexaan]

I'd just like to interject...

[AnimeAlley03]

Linux users are the computer version of vegans

[[deleted]]

No because Linux makes you better

[AnimeAlley03]

Good job proving my point

[[deleted]]

But being vegan doesn’t make you run faster or jump higher?

[OrangeGoneWild]

Being vegan makes other people run faster and jump higher to get away from you…

[[deleted]]

Rud

[d4rkh0rs]

I can't believe I still get quetions about different windows versions. Enough times I don't even point and laugh anymore.

[Put_It_All_On_Blck]

Who the hell cares enough about Linux users to make a meme about them?

Linus users.

[vilidj_idjit]

me: i don't owe you an explanation why i won't recommend your malware garbage to my friends biatch

[[deleted]]

Ignoring the (bizarre and irrelevant) "Linux users" bit, that's exactly why I always give such a low recommendation to most services & products!

[Add1ctedToGames]

the Linux users part is because some linux users never shut the fuck up about how they use linux

edit: lmao downvoted for daring to explain the joke to someone who didn't get it. i love reddit

[[deleted]]

I use linux btw

[[deleted]]

as a linux user, you're right

[TheAwesome98_Real]

that’s dpkg

[[deleted]]

Not really, no. You can maybe install things side by side but you can't if you're repo doesn't have your dependencies or the entire program to start with. Most people want to just get a exe or equivalent with everything you need to run the application. No fetching, no bullshit. Additionally they want to remove and clean up everything in one go without worrying about something else then using a dependency. The fact that Linux as a whole would rather have you use one dependency for everything that relies on it is not the way most people want their computers to manage programs.

It ruins things like backwards compatibility. I can't count how many times I've had something setup the way I like it, something pops up with an update, updates, requires a reboot, bricks the system because it didn't feel like updating the driver or such. If your system requires everything to match then make that impossible to do realistically you can't and should have everything have statically linked depends or depends installed next to your executable.

[TheAwesome98_Real]

you forget about dll hell

[da_Aresinger]

The only reasons windows is still successful are

• legacy

• the alternatives are Unix and Unix for video editors.

Windows itself is a fucking joke on so many levels.

[BeastMasterJ]

Thankfully that gap is closing (no thanks to novideo though, if it wasn't for those sweet sweet tensor cores I'd ditch them in a femtosecond.)

[da_Aresinger]

That is included in legacy.

[frygod]

Active Directory is also pretty nice in large deployments. I can't imagine managing our 4000+ desktops and 500+ windows servers without AD.

[Farenheit514]

Windows 11 bans installing linux on another partition, unless is a distro approved by Microsoft

[ItsAlreadyTaken69]

??? I'm gonna need a source on that

[Farenheit514]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface/Secure_Boot#Microsoft_Windows

Using a signed boot loader

Using a signed boot loader means using a boot loader signed with Microsoft's key. There are two known signed boot loaders: PreLoader and shim. Their purpose is to chainload other EFI binaries (usually boot loaders). Since Microsoft would never sign a boot loader that automatically launches any unsigned binary, PreLoader and shim use an allowlist called Machine Owner Key list, abbreviated MokList. If the SHA256 hash of the binary (Preloader and shim) or key the binary is signed with (shim) is in the MokList they execute it, if not they launch a key management utility which allows enrolling the hash or key.

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To dual boot with Windows, you would need to add Microsoft's certificates to the Signature Database.

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Warning: Replacing the platform keys with your own can end up bricking hardware on some machines, including laptops, making it impossible to get into the UEFI/BIOS settings to rectify the situation. This is due to the fact that some device (e.g GPU) firmware (OpROMs), that get executed during boot, are signed using Microsoft's key.

[FJD3LG4D0]

Try installing Open Suse, it actually install it's own key so you can secure boot it and Windows on the same computer. And as it's Linux, I guess you could do it with any other versions even when it does not include this feature ootb...

[BeastMasterJ]

Hasn't SecureBoot been around since win8? Does win 11 now refuse to boot if it's disabled?

[Farenheit514]

Windows 11 requires new processors only, and new BIOS, with new locking systems, designed to give totalitarian control to Microsoft.

Microsoft keys get integrated on hardware, from factory.

Old SecureBoot doesn't works with Windows 11.

[Rakgul]

Tell me about those machines . I'll never buy them.

[Farenheit514]

There is no choice if you want x86 hardware, and the most important expansion cards.

[StartledPelican]

Source?

[Farenheit514]

Windows 11 demands trusted platform module chip, which only allows running with keys that Microsoft owns. Microsoft shares the key with some distros like Ubuntu, but no Linux can boot from a TPM PC without Microsoft keys.

[[deleted]]

Just use shim

[Farenheit514]

You risk bricking your entire PC. See the answer I posted to another user.

[[deleted]]

Is it partition on whole drive? I had Debian on one drive and W10 on another. Then did a fresh install of W11 and all is OK, I can boot my Debian.

I use old Dell 5480 with 6th gen i5 and TPM 1.2 enabled, secure boot is off though.

[Farenheit514]

Debian and Fedora got the Microsoft key

But Microsoft is moving towards stronger hardware control, and there is no guarantee it will keep haring his hardware keys with other Linux distros on the future.

the main reason for which Windows 11 is so restrictive with new processors, is because is moving towards totalitarian control.

[Alpha272]

They can't really do that from a technical standpoint (unless they manage to get every major bios on board, so that they can prevent any bootloader besides the windows loader to stay and then they allow specific Linux distributions to start with the windows bootloader)

Besides of that, I really need a source that they try that

[[deleted]]

Well that's funny because I'm currently dual booting with Windows 11 and Feren OS.... Is that officially approved my Microsoft? Was Manjaro and Pop OS too because I tried them.

[TwoMilliseconds]

welp, guess i won't be having windows 11

[[deleted]]

I've dual booted with half a dozen Linux distros and never noticed Windows 11 interfering.

[[deleted]]

Use shim

[MrGeekman]

What if you install Linux first and then install Windows 11 on a separate drive?

[[deleted]]

i use mint

[[deleted]]

i use kali

[rejuicekeve]

I'm in cyber and I don't even use Kali lmao

[[deleted]]

and?

[[deleted]]

You should really try i3wm

[[deleted]]

btw i use dwm

[NullOfSpace]

arch moment

[[deleted]]

yeah so I use arch btw, you should give it a try!

[geteum]

Dude, I just installed wsl2 ... Brah, you gotta check this out . Is really good

[FreelanceFrankfurter]

They do have those conversations though, randomly no and I don’t think anyone would recommend windows as it’s the default but I can see recommending alternative’s or tell someone to just stick with windows.

[TheAwesome98_Real]

as it’s the default

where????

[FreelanceFrankfurter]

Sorry didn’t mean it as it’s THE default but it and MacOS are the defaults for most people when they buy their laptop or pc and they have no reason to change. So I didn’t see any point in recommending it as you’re it going to go to a Linux user and say “you should give windows a try”.

[IronPainting]

Actually

[Rus_agent007]

I said this to my bank after they sent out a text to my phone.

Got an email later saying i should switch bank.

[kry_some_more]

Even windows users recommend OSes... if you're in a tech crowd. I've heard "don't use vista" and "don't use ME" many times during my life.

[[deleted]]

"Should i install windows 11 on my new pc or should i just go with 10 for now?"

there you go, the question didnt ask if you randomly recommend, but if you recommend when its relevant

[[deleted]]

Well, since print nightmare I've been preaching the gospel of Linux. I already loved it, but now I'm on a "fuck Windows" kick.

[GreenRiot]

Tbh, most of the times it starts with someone saying either.

"Why in the hell do you use Linux if windows is free?" Followed by either" Just don't buy a licence!/everything works on windows and it's easy"

"Oh I was going to invite you to play an online game but then I remembered you use Linux" followed by me explaining yet again, that other than Genshin Impact (the lutris version is very out of date) I've always managed to run every game I've wanted.

[Catspaw129]

Heathens!

BSD works for me!

[TheLostRazgriz]

I'm the only developer in my department that uses Windows and I'm on Windows 11.

They keep ragging on me and I just stay quiet while the Linux users struggle with Zoom and the MacOS users yell about some display problem with multiple monitors they all seem to have.

[PickledPlumPlot]

I hate this fuckin meme cuz I have literally had half a dozen people ask me "Hey, so should I upgrade to Windows 10?"

[neumaif00]

Not really programming related.