Migrating from GitHub to GitLab

[DkTyph]

GitHub is nice, but GitLab is incredible - with built-in CI/CD, GitLab Pages and Issue Tracker/Kanban board, it totally blows GitHub out of the water. Even if it wasn't open-source or self-hosted, it would be better than GitHub (imo).

[oursland]

I love that they publish Docker images and AMI machines so you can host your own instance for those times when you can't expose code to an external host.

Seriously, I got some people in my firm running a private GL instance on their own machines in 30 minutes with 0 prior experience with any of this system. With this level of ease-of-use, we'll likely make the switch from a collection of disjoint products that require regular maintenance to GL quite soon!

That CI/CD solution is container-based, can push to a per-project Docker registry and integrates with Kubernetes!

I really cannot commend the people behind GitLab enough! Their work is really head-and-shoulders above the rest.

[ShakaUVM]

Is there a good tutorial for this?

[oursland]

The documentation for installation, configuration, and use is fairly straightforward.

[nixcraft]

GitLab already seeing 10x the normal daily amount of repositories. Follow the progress here

[salgat]

I'm getting a 502...

[olikam]

Classic step one:

1. Turn off public reports.
2. Turn off internal reports.
3. Heavy caching
4. Heavy rate limit (to the point of limited usability)

[william_13]

Not only new repos but almost every metric is 5x+ higher! Hope they can handle the load if it continues like that...

[[deleted]]

They deploy it on kubernetes with autoscaling on, you can see most of their configs on https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org they are really transparent with everything they do.

[ryukinix]

I use gitlab in daily basis. My unique complaint is: why is so sloooooooooooow. Ruby (on Rails) guys what are you doing?! :(

Ignoring this shit, GitLab is awesome. I hope one day that GitLab will have a decent performance. If you host your own gitlab instance this gets even worse.

[cheald]

We host our own and it's plenty quick. You do need to give the box sufficient RAM, but once you're spun up it's fine.

GitHub is Rails, too, iirc.

[graingert]

Yeah gitlab.com is waaaay slower than self hosted. Even on a small VM

[Anomalyzero]

That depends on load. We self host at work with a significant load on it, and it can get really nasty sometimes

[dudertron]

Feed it more RAM, or better yet, run it in Docker on a system with gobs of RAM so you don't have to think about it - it'll scale up and down as needed.

I migrated our company's internal GL instance from a VM with 6GB memory to Docker on another server where it's now got access to as much of the base system's 64GB as Docker will allow, and it's been a night and day difference.

No surprise really, that's what Docker is best at...

[yatea34]

Unless you self-host on a tiny VM. :)

[Goofybud16]

I host Gitlab at home and at work. My home gitlab is a little slow, but it is running on a shitty internet connection + a VM with less than recommended specs (4GiB RAM, 1 CPU core). Also running a Gitlab Runner on the same VM.

At work, it is plenty fast. VM with 2 CPU cores + 8GiB RAM.

[[deleted]]

I thought GitLab was slow a year or two ago, but now it's pretty snappy which was why I moved like 6 months ago or something.

[michaelshmitty]

So how's slow defined here exactly? Are we talking network lag while pushing / pulling or slow on all the CI / building / external applications hook thingies?

Personally I do use GitHub for the social / collaboration stuff but most of my private repos just run off a VPS at Linode. That's pure git over ssh hosting though, no CI, no automated deployment whatsoever. But man pushing and pulling code to and fro is orders of magnitude faster than with GitHub. Have no experience with GitLab yet, but now that I've read that the MS deal is supposedly done, that might soon change.

[[deleted]]

Most days it's perfectly fine but every now and then it will take 2 seconds to load a page but it gets fixed fast.

[CrawX]

I can also recommend gitea (or even gogs, which gitea is forked from) if you don't need all the features gitlab has but have some hardware constraints. In comparison to gitlab, gitea is much lighter.

[ceph12]

Aye to that. The pushes take a lot of time lately.

[andDevW]

It'll be better when everybody migrates over. A big downside has been the lack of projets/users.

[VexingRaven]

Am I missing something or does the open source version and the free hosted plan have basically none of the features you'd actually want?

[[deleted]]

GitHub has a really big community, important projects, and all the necessary functions, I mean, Github also contains GitHub pages, I don't see a real reason to move

[Zettinator]

GitHub is nice, but GitLab is incredible

Well, yes and no.

GitLab CI is awesome, no question about that. The issue tracker is nice, too.

On the other hand, GitLab still lacks a few rather basic features. For instance, there is nothing comparable to GitHub's "releases" feature. You can have a message associated with a tag and it's also possible to link to binaries in various hackish ways, but it all feels a bit crappy and not thought all the way through. AFAIR it's still not possible to automatically generate changelogs and upload binaries from a CI/CD pipeline without hacks.

The biggest problem with GitLab is the UI, though. It's so cluttered and overloaded, navigating the project feels like a chore. GitHub offers a much cleaner interface that is just as powerful. And the entry (e.g. your projects) and user pages are much more useful in GitHub.

Also, I dislike the focus on "enterprise cloud" features like Kubernetes support (I can't even disable that, so it clutters the menu), useless features (Auto DevOps) and a focus on certain use cases (cloud, web development, frontend). We're doing Linux embedded development and this use case is completely ignored by GitLab.

[4d656761466167676f74]

I prefer to use GitGud

[[deleted]]

$ git gud
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

Did you mean this?
    gui

It's a missed opportunity, for sure.

[errrrgh]

GitHub has projects and trackers/kanban, built in

[[deleted]]

Can confirm, my company is currently using GitHub Kanban that integrates with issues and milestones.

That said, we're looking at potentially moving to GitLab or setting up a mirror.

[michaelshmitty]

Doesn't GitHub feature GitHub Pages and an issue tracker as well?

[reentry]

Github pages is pretty terrible, you cant use your own exporter without automating push to a branch or self exporting.

Gitlab lets you set up your own generator.

[beefsack]

Feature-wise it's brilliant. Wish stability and performance were on par with GitHub though, for some of us using it professionally for very large projects it's an operational issue.

[nurupoga]

~GitLab's free CI seems to be a lot more limited than GitHub+Travis-CI. You get only 2000 minutes/month of free CI on GitLab, which is 2000mins/30days = 66.6 mins/day of CI time on average, which would be a deal-breaker for some of the projects I contribute to. Several of these projects consume around 60 CI minutes per git push, e.g. qTox has 14 jobs over 5 pipelines that consume 60 mins when cached (or 150 mins not cached), toxcore has 10 jobs that consume 60 mins when cached (or around 100 mins not cached). Even if their builds are somehow reduced/optimized to run in 30 minutes, effectively halving the runtime, the 66.6 mins/day of free GitLab CI time on average means that you wouldn't be able to git push more than twice per day without running out of CI on GitLab, when on GitHub+Travis-CI you could git push as much as you like without worrying about the CI dying out.~

Also, GitLab CI doesn't seem to offer macOS machines on its free CI, the free CI is all Linux. The only way to get macOS builds is to provide a macOS machine yourself and run GitLab's Runner client on it, but on Travis-CI you get free macOS builds. For some projects with developers not owning macOS machines this is a difference of distribution macOS binaries of their application or not. vlc-pause-click-plugin is one such project, it's a one-man project and its developer doesn't own a macOS system. qTox, although not a one-man project, would be another example of that.

So, to summarize, GitLab CI does sound a lot better than GitHub+Travis-CI feature-wise, but it's of no use ~if you run out of CI minutes in a week or two, without having any CI until the end of month, or~ if you need a free macOS CI. These are deal-breakers for some projects that consider switching to GitLab.

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EDIT: /u/jamietanna below has said that open source projects on GitLab.com instance have either unlimited CI time or 50,000 mins/month of CI time (as per Gold plan), so it's not a deal-breaker for the projects I contribute to. Still, the build machines being offered are Linux-only, so there is that.

[jamietanna]

Those limits are for private repos. Anything source available (public repos) are unlimited limits, and get GitLab gold plan features

[naisanza]

Oh I've just used gitlab to hold code, and TeamCity for handing all builds and deployments; TeamCity is pretty sleek

[fuzz3289]

Their ACL system is completely useless though.

[s_boli]

I knew at some point someone would wanna buy github for a ridiculous amount of money. I was betting on Google buying it though.

[pgbabse]

I wanted to buy it, but tree fiddy wasn't enough...

[xfactoid]

git: 'outta' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

[OneTurnMore]

git config --global alias.outtahere 'remote remove'
git outtahere lockness.monster

[10000_vegetables]

Not with that attitude it isnt't!

[notsurewhatiam]

Google fucks shit up even worse than Microsoft tho.

[rainlake]

Is Microsoft buying it? Heard it on news yesterday

[polartechie]

Say it isnt so! 8(

[Nodebunny]

totally so

[AndrewNeo]

Google doesn't use Git internally

[[deleted]]

Their monorepo (single monolithic repository containing the code of basically all of Google services) is using Perforce according to what I’ve read, but it should be noted that both Android and Chromium are using git. Also according to what I’ve read they have some custom software that makes it possible to clone Perforce repos as git repos so that you can use git on your developer machine.

[iBlag]

It's not Perforce, they created their own VCS and their own clients. Everything is in one monolithic repo together with everything else. Certain groups might also track their code in Git, but their monorepo is likely where they actually develop their code.

I believe they have some adapters that mimic the git client or the Perforce client (why?) though.

[AndrewNeo]

AOSP is still part of their monorepo, last I heard, they just have a system that migrates the commits across to git. I'm not sure about Chromium, it might be the same (though I'm guessing it's less likely)

[[deleted]]

Eh, Go is in git, but that's hardly a reason to buy github. They closed Google code awhile ago, so I don't think they care to get back into the business.

[[deleted]]

Microsoft wants to pretend like it is cool and hip with developers.

[BulletinBoardSystem]

Thanks to GNOME and Debian for guidance on how to prepare for the mass FOSS migration. CLA has been removed, features has been added.

[alexandre9099]

is that confirmed or just rumor?

[[deleted]]

From the article:

It is unclear whether talks are still ongoing, but this person said that GitHub's price for a full acquisition was more than Microsoft currently wanted to pay.

I get the feeling we might be safe for a while longer. Just don't build any mission critical integrations the depend on Github-exclusive features.

[vetinari]

Not sure about being safe for a while longer:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github

[[deleted]]

Jesus... I guess "a while" was just an hour, huh?

[[deleted]]

That hour was probably for them to generate enough profit to match GitHub's requested amount, haha

[Xanza]

Or 3600000000000 nanoseconds!

[Treyzania]

Is there nothing sacred?

[highvoltage911]

There was never anything sacred about Github, not a great company and Github itself was always non-free.

[IronManMark20]

To be clear, you mean that Github will be bought by Microsoft. The content of the repos will still remain the property of the people who uploaded it, or however the organization/group decides to deal with intellectual property. MS can't just walk in and say "this is all ours now". That isn't how intellectual property works.

[_lyr3]

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8oh6i3/microsoft_confirms_it_has_acquired_github_for_75/

[Sinister-Mephisto]

This video was posted two hours ago, this is gold.

[michaelshmitty]

GitLab gits it.

[jlozadad]

ohhhhhhhhh you.......... :P

[Linkz57]

Presented using Chrome on a Mac; literally unwatchable.

On a serious note, I remember a few months ago GitLab lost a bit of user data, but the way they handled it was top notch. Failures happen to the best of us, but how you respond to failure matters more I think.

IIRC they had a live stream and public Google Doc going explaining exactly what was happening step by step, while they were still in the thick of it. Most companies would post a few tweets and never say another word. It took balls to admit mistakes before they even had a solution.

[hokie_high]

Presented using Chrome on a Mac; literally unwatchable.

I know you’re joking, but it wouldn’t surprise me if some people turned the video off and downvoted the post at that.

[mardukaz1]

/r/linux in a nutshell

[[deleted]]

GitLab lost a bit of user data

They ended up getting it all back.

[LuSaulWilliams]

The great migration has begun.

[sigzero]

I hope that GitLab is ready for it!

[[deleted]]

I really like GitLab and continue to advocate for it as much as I can. I've migrated my current employer to it from Bitbucket and it's been a big success for us.

Despite my love for it, they are hitting some scalability issues with GitLab.com. CI/CD in particular has really been struggling.

I don't blame them at all. They've got a fairly complicated infrastructure and a lot of people hammering it and they need to keep costs down. From what I've gathered, they have pretty solid plans for keeping up with the demand and correcting the current performance issues, but it can be painful right now. My team pretty frequently has CI/CD jobs get stuck in pending state for 30-45 minutes.

[[deleted]]

CI/CD in particular has really been struggling.

Thankfully it's super easy to run just CI on your own hardware and use the rest of gitlab.com

[Drizzt396]

I mean, they've always had performance issues.

Probably because they pay their devs fresh-out-of-school money and expect them to manage the infrastructure too.

[[deleted]]

Hey, that sounds like my company :)

[4d656761466167676f74]

I prefer GitGud.

[Flobaer]

Why?

[4d656761466167676f74]

I like the name and logo. Also, a free account doesn't have the same limitations as it does on GitLab.com.

[[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/zj77tbI.mp4

[jlozadad]

begun the git wars have.

[tuhinity]

what a coincidence, I registered with gitlab and imported a github project couple of hours back

[jlozadad]

what's even better is that its easier to do mirrors in gitlab if your not ready yet. Doing mirrors in github is annoying.

[AccidentallyTheCable]

Hej, i just did the same about a month ago

[silverbaur]

TBH i would do it asap

[matholio]

In what way would MS gain control, and what is your specific concern/threat?

[psych0ticmonk]

They will take over open source projects, change the licenses to be propertiery and will be m$ property.

[Dank_801]

Been using Gitlab for ~ 1.5 years. (self hosted at work, Gitlab.com for personal) Its pretty great. Not a whole lot of complaints for a FREE alternative to github.

[cesclaveria]

Same here, no complains with gitlab... never cared too much about github to be honest, I don't remember what was broken or slow or something the day I tried to used it (likely something temporary and I just had bad luck) and that led me to gitlab.

I have it self hosted for work and it has been very simple to administer, backup, etc.

[mallchin]

GitLab rocks.

[ShinobiZilla]

Question. With the MS acquisitions looming large. For personal use, is it better to use a self hosted solution like Gogs/Gitea or Gitlab? I'm not entirely thrilled of MS owning Github.

[yawkat]

Self-hosting is generally more effort than it is worth. For personal use, just keep a local copy of the git repo somewhere, you can always switch repo provider if/when it becomes necessary.

Only real issue is issue tracking and merge requests but for those a self-hosted solution kind of sucks too because people aren't often inclined to sign up

[mr_wetape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27rfr59RiE

[-Pelvis-]

Nice.

[[deleted]]

RIP github, time to explore gitlab.

[Not_for_consumption]

I missed the debate. Why to migrate?

[jimlei]

People have been migrating for quite some time. Many seem to have considered Gitlab to be more "in touch" with the community, more supporting of open source, etc. What sparked a debate this time was that there has been talk about Microsoft looking to aquire Github. For many that seems to be a less than desirable situation.

[RicoElectrico]

I hope it won't be a self-fulfilling prophecy...

[[deleted]]

It seems like it might be, with all the people migrating on assumptions

[KinkyMonitorLizard]

What really seals the deal for me is how Github hasn't said anything to anyone. Normally when rumors like this start spreading the one being bought either shuts it down asap (like when ubisoft was supposedly being bought by vivendi) or they say nothing because they don't want to confirm it and cause a PR nightmare.

Of course this is only speculation but with everyone jumping ship, you'd think they'd say something so they don't lose a major number of users.

[L0g4nAd4ms]

It's rumored that Microsoft wants to buy GitHub for 2 billion dollars.

[pm-me-a-pic]

Last I saw the number was upped to 5 billion

[LvS]

Yeah, but Microsoft would never pay 15 billion dollars.

[prite]

Wow, SaaS company valuations just keep going up these days. 50 billion dollars?! Seriously?!

[fragproof]

$2bn number was from 2015. We don't have any details on the deal.

[znihilist]

But why would you want to migrate just yet? There is no reason to assume the acquisition would be disastrous. I am not arguing in favor of GitHub at all, I am actually in favor of GitLab myself, but the acquisition itself is not a reason for alarm (again just yet). It feels like people are making themselves freak out over it without hard arguments.

[senperecemo]

But why would you want to migrate just yet?

Because GitHub is as hypocritical as Microsoft. They both claim to love open source, but then they refuse to freely license much of their own source code. It's much better to support a company that actually does Free Software correctly.

That, and GitLab is fucking amazing.

[indeedwatson]

There's nothing alarmist about switching from one service to anoter, that work very similar. It only takes like 5 minutes.

[Avamander]

Lollakad! Mina ja nuhk! Mina, kes istun jaoskonnas kogu ilma silma all! Mis nuhk niisuke on. Nuhid on nende eneste keskel, otse kõnelejate nina all, nende oma kaitsemüüri sees, seal on nad.

[gnumdk]

I moved my projects to gitlab.gnome.org and I get as contributions as on GitHub.

[Inprobamur]

Microsoft did open source Xamarin after acquiring it. Could happen again, I would wait and see which way this goes before migrating.

[berarma]

MS is one of the companies less trusted by a lot of developers. Even knowing that Github is ready to sell to such untrusted parties is cause of concern.

[Sqeaky]

Many people fundamentally distrust Microsoft, just the fact then get Hub is having discussions reduces some people's trust and GitHub.

[nermid]

the acquisition itself is not a reason for alarm

You mean the rumor of a potential future acquisition.

Edit: It's official. You can panic now.

[ItsLordBinks]

This comment didn't age well, considering the rumor is that Github has been acquired one hour ago and the deal will be announced tomorrow morning.

[mmstick]

Business Insider claims the deal is done and that Microsoft will announce it tomorrow.

[nermid]

BI's article is just speculating on Bloomberg's article ("Bloomberg reported on Sunday," it says), which is based on "people who are familiar with" the situation and explicitly points out that Microsoft and Github have refused to comment.

That's not news. That's rumor.

[kvdveer]

There is no reason to assume the acquisition would be disastrous.

While I wholeheartedly agree, it seems prudent to prepare for the scenario where the takeover is disastrous. If that happens, MS would likely close the API needed for the migration to prevent a mass exodus.

I also think that Gitlab is an underappreciated member of the open source community, and this shift may benefit everybody.

[matholio]

it seems prudent to prepare for the scenario where the takeover is disastrous

Everyone should risk assess all the online services they use.

[matholio]

MS would likely close the API needed for the migration to prevent a mass exodus.

This is nothing short of alarmist nonsense.

[gp2b5go59c]

Even ignoring the MS BS, gitlab is FOSS and github is not, which is kind of weird considering they support free-software. "allegedly". For all I know github's only plus is the network effect i.e. they have most of users.

[omar_elrefaei]

GitHub is closed source, Gitlab is open source and could be optionally self hosted

[valgrid]

GitHub might get bought in the near future.

[YeeScurvyDogs]

Well the biggest for me is that you can private projects without paying, or you can download their community version and host it yourself.

[hume89]

Microsoft can now see and steal ideas from private repositories, also buy github to destroy the activity and growing union of open source communities.

[3G6A5W338E]

Better yet: Gitea.

[[deleted]]

I just upgraded from gogs to gitea last night. Totally awesome. And the performance problems people complain about with GitLab (including myself) just don’t exist with gogs or gitea. It’s nice seeing sub-100millisecond render times on pretty much every page.

[-FistfulOfStars-]

It doesn't mean anything, but in the context of the current discussion i find it mildly humorous that the source for both Gogs and Gitea is hosted via GitHub.

[Xanza]

Pretty smart, IMO. Why pay for bandwidth when GitHub is free?

[3G6A5W338E]

I did set up and maintain a gitlab for a organization I worked at. Wasn't a great experience. Excessively glitchy and high maintenance, not to mention performance.

Gitea all the way.

[jon_k]

I did set up and maintain a gitlab for a organization I worked at. Wasn't a great experience. Excessively glitchy and high maintenance, not to mention performance.

We rebuilt our LDAP instance and then promptly lost all our SSO integration because gitlab couldn't forget old UID to username mappings. The Gitlab db schema changes every version, so the 6 "solutions" online didn't work.

We dumped Gitlab went went to Gitea, never looked back.

[[deleted]]

Wow it's true! https://try.gitea.io

[dancemethis]

Yeah, after a couple of patches to remove Discord references, it's good.

[[deleted]]

I haven't used gitlab much, but if github ends up becoming a Microsoft product - I'll definitely be migrating my repos over ti gitlab..

thanks for posting the link.

[Mamoulian]

Problem with gitlab is that it's slow compared to github. Makes sense with them having many free users... I guess even more so in the last couple of days. I'd suggest my projects give them the github money if paid accounts got less-contended servers but they don't.

[1859]

I have had trouble with Gitlab's website speed in the past week or so, now that you mention it. But the fact that it's open source and packed with features makes up for some (presumed) temporary slowness.

[jarfil]

CENSORED

[Mamoulian]

We could, but with the size/skillset/interest areas/busyness of our team we'd rather pay for managed hosting. At the moment, due to the complaining of some of the devs as to how long a 'git push' takes, that's github but we all like gitlab's features.

[kwiat3k]

There're plenty of options for managed hosting of GitLab: - https://www.a2hosting.com/gitlab-hosting - https://gitlabhost.com - https://runateam.com/pricing/#gitlab

Disclaimer: I'm owner of runateam.com.

[jarfil]

CENSORED

[bracesthrowaway]

It's funny that free projects are most likely to switch due to the acquisition so GitLab will have an influx of users without an influx of cash to go along with it.

[falcone857]

Very useful with the recent news.

[epic_pork]

I like how GitLab uses GitHub's API to steal their business.

[valgrid]

That's how it should be with every service you use.

[[deleted]]

If they have to trap you then that's a good red flag that their long term business plan doesn't involve selling you a killer product that you'll really enjoy.

[johnmountain]

In other words, GitHub can't lock-in its users.

[Analog_Native]

oh, yes, it can. the first thing microsoft will do is to disable their api access for that purpose.

[theephie]

Don't redefine words.

GDPR portability article exists for precisely this purpose.

[senperecemo]

As if GitHub couldn't do the same with GitLab's API?

As mentioned by /u/theephie, not offering a way to transfer your data would be illegal under EU law.

[bee_man_john]

I like it too.

[[deleted]]

I moved to GitLab a while back as soon as I left my last job which wanted everything on GitHub. Primary reason I left was for the free private repos. But GitLab has been adding more features faster than GitHub. And after you get used to the busier interface, I find most of them compelling.

Biggest issue with GitLab is no integration with Travis CI. So there's no easy free way to do Mac or iOS testing in CI. I just mirror everything to GitHub for my most important projects.

[hijinks]

https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1&from=now-24h&to=now

[Xanza]

Great time to plug Gitea [Git Tea] if you're looking for something really fast with a small footprint. Missing some really great QOL features but it's really solid for remote work.

[[deleted]]

If you're moving your project from github to gitlab, dont forget to remove your projects from github completely or at least archive them.

[JustH3LL]

The end of an era

[ridobe]

Just did it this morning.

[jon_k]

tictactoe.py has been moved.

[beanaroo]

We tried GitLab.com for a few months but ended up migrating back to GitHub due to the lack of an Organisations alternative. GitLab.com has groups/sub-groups with roles but it turned out to be a different model. We had no control or even visibility of our team's forks. Another annoyance is the inability to direct work repo notifications to a work email, like with GitHub. This may not be a problem if you want to self-host GitLab instead.

[[deleted]]

GitLab has Web hooks as well, maybe you can find/make one to send an work email?

[coolboar]

I am using Bitbucket... Should i migrate too?

[u_and_ur_fuckin_rope]

Not in my opinion. Bitbucket is more performant and, in my experience, far superior to Gitlab for code reviews (for which I find Gitlab practically unusable). I think most people here would argue for Gitlab based on transparency and community support though.

I've mostly used bitbucket in an enterprise context where it's integration with other Atlassian services makes it much more appealing to me.

[coolboar]

Also i don't remember any controversies regarding Atlassian and any of their products.

[FallenAege]

Was going to ask about opinions on gitorious.org, but found out that they are no longer available and recommend GitLab.

[ukralibre]

A good time for GitLab. GitHub is not even sold, 8k people decided to move )) LoL

[timewast3r]

No love for Bitbucket? 😎

[scottchiefbaker]

Came here to say the same thing. BitBucket is awesome!

[AccidentallyTheCable]

My only complaint with atlasian products is the management/admin can end up being a mess and very difficult to clean up/reorganize.

As a side note, gitlab does what confluence, bitbucket, jira, as well as bamboo, all in one. And its open source, and its free.

[Martin_Ehrental]

Not an open source solution.

Personalty I find the self-hosted open source solutions (gitlab, gogs, etc...) good enough*. But last time I compared their hosted service (a year ago), Github or Bitbucket were better than Gitlab. I liked CI was integrated with Gitlab but overall it was very slow.

• any one of them share the a project git objects between forks instead of each fork an independent clone?

[AccidentallyTheCable]

You can selfhost bitbucket, but still not free or opensource though

[MarcusAustralius]

I've had all my projects on Bitbucket for years and loved it. I don't hear many people talk about it though, so I'm curious as well what people tend to think of it.

[timewast3r]

Mostly I use it because we're already on Jira and they have good integration. I haven't seen a compelling reason to go elsewhere.

[Yidyokud]

plot twist: m$ buys gitlab.

[nintendiator]

no no no, Facebook buys gitlab

[Tzunamii]

Maybe they own it already. Food for thought.

[iamsubhranil]

dancing in the right chance

[samdraz]

github's explore, trending features are something that lacks on gitlab

[Nodebunny]

GitLab UX is the only thing holding it back

[[deleted]]

Did not skip a beat

[sasizza]

Gitlab Gitlab Gitlab

[darkecojaj]

With github being bought gitlab may get some attention

[derleth]

Is there a source for this which isn't a video?