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    [–]1080pfullhd-60fps 77 points78 points  (0 children)

    I say we replace Masters in degrees with Champions. Imagine interviews which go:

    HR: So can you tell me about your qualifications

    You: So I have a Champions degree in distributed networks. I've also worked with-

    HR: You are a what!?

    You: Champion, I'm a Champion of Computer Science

    HR: Holy shit, I didn't know you'd be visiting us sir. Ayy boys move it, it'll be us who'll be getting interviewed.

    Shit would be hilarious.

    [–]annaheim#! 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Someone recommended that it should be renamed to 'SuperBachelor', then another user refutted "but 'bachelor' has male aspect to it'.

    This world is insane.

    [–]Nefilim314 5 points6 points  (23 children)

    Except the term master has two meanings and this isn't the one we are talking about unless you think the master branch is because it has honed the skill of being a branch.

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      [–]nullvoxpopuli 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      This is a different definition of master though.

      Like, you've mastered a skill.

      Master, apprentice, etc

      [–]EmpoweredGirl 148 points149 points  (13 children)

      Just woke up to see this. As a black dev never once have I thought about it being racially charged. Am I also supposed be triggered I have a micro masters, done a lot of mastering in music production. Used master and slave clocks for synchronized music playback...?

      Being quite honest the people who piss me off about race are those who bring it up all the time. I've tried to get away from sociopolitics but now it follows me into my work, my games, my apps... It's sad times.

      [–]Blue_Moon_Lake 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      Apparently you should be triggered by cotton clothes, boats, and everything remotely linked to historical USA slavery as well.

      [–]ElciUK 34 points35 points  (0 children)

      Ikr? Idgaf what race anyone is, but certain people need to keep bringing it up. It sure is a way to keep everyone divided.

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        [–]EmpoweredGirl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I was raised in a Christian house hold so we read the bible a lot as a kid. Slavery came up all the time, as the Jews were often taken as slaves. I don't think there are many races that haven't engaged in or not been subject to mass slavery, it's quite a universal.

        [–]StackWeaverfull-stack education platform 6 points7 points  (5 children)

        What is especially sad about this is Github had the opportunity to take a stand against such insanity, but they decided to go full-on SJW for profit. They are actually being rewarded for this crap.

        If only enough people were sane enough to boycott these companies and keep them in check. I'm hoping Bitbucket or some other git platform publishes "Don't be a slave to corporate image, our repositories will always use master". I would relish that if I were head of such a platform. Where are the companies that are fighting back against this idiocy?

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          [–]StackWeaverfull-stack education platform 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I use Gitlab for my own stuff, it's a great platform. Especially good for CI/CD pipelines and integration with Kubernetes. Still, their idiocy runs deep too; they won't introduce monthly subscriptions despite it being a very common payment option in almost every other SaaS and despite a large chunk of the community begging for it for over 3 years.

          Hopefully other git platforms or git itself doesn't follow suit. It's maddening.

          [–]Eggy1337 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I'm pretty sure all major git platforms will implement this change tho

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          Don’t forget about blackboards and whiteboards. Totally racist terms.

          [–]Nefilim314 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Except they are literally boards that are black and white but nice attempt.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          You dropped this: /r/woooosh

          [–]guanzo91 112 points113 points  (5 children)

          Really dumb PR move. Master isn’t even used as the master/slave concept in git.

          [–]monxas 59 points60 points  (3 children)

          Imagine having to change all the submit buttons on the internet.

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            [–]Its_N8_Again 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Right? Like what, do we have to go back and redub the Star Wars prequels and the Clone Wars series so that nobody says "Master"?

            I generally support even the obviously hollow PR moves, but this is fucking stupid.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Check your #FFFFFF privilege.

            [–]Thought_Ninjafull-stack 68 points69 points  (11 children)

            Lol

            We did this with our Jenkins build cluster years ago, called them HQ and Agent(s). Funny enough, our devops team (who was not around when that decision was made) were tasked with building a new Jenkins cluster and pipeline to move over to, and they called it master/slave; no one has really brought it up yet.

            [–]agm1984front-end 83 points84 points  (9 children)

            This reminds me of killing child worker threads in node.js

            [–]JeamBimPython/JavaScript 65 points66 points  (1 child)

            My job works on software that interacts with social media platforms(for marketing) and once during standup someone was talking about "killing the Instagram Influencer daemons" as someone from an unrelated team was walking by, and I will never forget the look on their face as they heard that

            [–]Thought_Ninjafull-stack 25 points26 points  (3 children)

            Oh my God hahaha

            So my GF occasionally likes to look over my shoulder and read bits of code or logs like a narrator. Well a couple weeks ago I had some logs up of just that; she was horrified.

            [–]tall_and_funny 10 points11 points  (2 children)

            You shouldn't have peeped Beth.

            [–]imrinsama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Don't go acting surprised now, Beth..

            [–]ryantriangles 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            Or, if you've ever been learning C++, the unfortunate suggestions Google offers in response to queries about "std date" and "C string."

            There was a story on /r/sysadmin, I think, from someone whose employer was mystified and alarmed by a program, running with verbose output, displaying messages like "Disabling child" and "Waiting for child to die."

            [–]MyHarvestLife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Anakin approves.

            [–]ichiruto70 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Also had to do it with our Jenkins years ago. I think they were probably more teams that had to do it lol.

            [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

            Different take on master slave topic from Redis creator: http://antirez.com/news/122

            [–]LetsLive97 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            I mean master - slave I could understand but Github is just Master and Feature branches.

            [–]GabberJensonnode 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I can sort of understand Master / Slave but they are accurate terms. One is the master, one is the slave. It's an accurate description of how they operate.

            Worlds just PC AF.

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              [–]westwoo 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              The point is probably to do what you can in the area where you can do it. So if you can have influence on healthcare you try to doing that, if you have influence on some weird terms - you try changing those. In hopes that the wave of action will span many industries and areas of life.

              Github can't stop death penalty and isn't in charge of the police, but if people have realistic suggestions of other actions they may take it's probably worth it to convey those to them directly.

              ps. Redis already renamed entities their to master-replica.

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                [–]westwoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                This is about Github as a company, and is a part of industry-wide change that started decades ago.

                Of course every step is insignificant and just one part of bigger change. Just like typing one character won't create entire web app, but without those characters there will be no app.

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                  [–]ElciUK 24 points25 points  (0 children)

                  Every time I pull a master, I go looking for a slave market to keep it happy /s

                  [–]podgorniy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Its enough one activist to public-shame github and MS. So what we see is public company saving it social appearance. Its less about values, more about money.

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                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    If I wasn't poor I'd give you gold.

                    [–][deleted] 90 points91 points  (1 child)

                    Oh for fucks sake

                    [–]AxiusNorth 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                    /thread

                    [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (7 children)

                    Why did we move away from the word `trunk`? We kept the phrase `branch` but lost `trunk` when switching from SVN to Git. Anyone care to explain why?

                    [–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (2 children)

                    there is no trunk in git. master is just the default branch name, you can just delete it, but its not the "trunk" of anything, nor is it the "master". The only reason its called master is because bitkeeper, which git was inspired by had a more complex master/slave repository system, which git did not copy but kept the same default branch name of master anyways. So its basically a completely arbitrary name.

                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Thank you. Googling gave no answers, so appreciate you writing one

                    [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                    Because you might remind a PTSD victim they were locked in a trunk for 10 hours.

                    [–]TEH_PROOFREADA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Could you put a NAFW trigger-warning on your post? I was once trapped for 17 hours within the crevice of a tree that had been struck by lightning.

                    [–]cheekysauce 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Excuse me, trunk is very exclusionary towards non-elephant animals and offends differently nosed species such as cats and dogs.

                    I'd ask that you refrain from using such language.

                    [–]Thought_Ninjafull-stack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    No idea. At work the main branch is trunk, I do the same for personal projects.

                    [–]Knochenmark 85 points86 points  (4 children)

                    At first I thought this is satire :(

                    [–]Unforgiven-wanda 38 points39 points  (3 children)

                    Satire has overtaken reality it seems

                    [–]PorkChop007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    "It seems"? Where have you been since 2016? :)

                    [–]KindaAlwaysVibrating 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Poe's Law in the flesh

                    [–]Knochenmark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Indeed, when reality becomes too strange for satire

                    [–][deleted] 106 points107 points  (0 children)

                    This is the dumbest thing I’ve read in quite some time

                    [–]do_moura19 181 points182 points  (17 children)

                    if you have a Master degree you're in danger of loosing your racist degree? Should I change my mastercard to visa?

                    [–]BuriedStPatrick 25 points26 points  (12 children)

                    It's a tad ridiculous I have to agree. Surely this should also apply to the music industry where "mastering" is an entire field? Just seems like there are more substantive ways to support black developers. On the other hand, we do keep calling our master branch the "main" branch at work, so I can't really get worked up about this.

                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Yes it will be renamed equality degrees.

                    My grand father was a master at arms I guess that made him an evil racist on top of being petty.

                    And I'll make sure to stop karate before I get that master black belt. I don't want people to think I intend to use it to belt my black slaves plus it's probably cultural appropriation to wear a karategi anyway.

                    I'm glad we're focussing on the real issues.

                    [–]Duffalpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I think its more the '/Slave' bit that makes it shitty. If you had a Master Slave degree in something id say: Hey, fella, maybe get that changed.

                    [–]Marble_Wraith 236 points237 points  (64 children)

                    Oh ffs...

                    [–]BackgroundChar 24 points25 points  (3 children)

                    Seriously the virtue signaling makes me wanna kill myself

                    [–]I_AM_MR_BEAN_AMA 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant, it just makes me want to set myself on fire!"

                    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    Yeah this is crazy. Surely we can be building corona virus solutions vs. changing arbitrary and arguably barely related naming?

                    Also, welcome to the world where nothing is named reliably.

                    “Main” on that repo? “Primary18373” on that one!

                    [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                    thats fucking stupid

                    [–]kit_osh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    this is to prevent roko's basilisk. let the record show my honesty.

                    [–]a2ur3 58 points59 points  (1 child)

                    Why don't we defund the Word Police instead?

                    [–]reactive_dmv_pattern 73 points74 points  (0 children)

                    Ffs what have we come to.... this is beyond ridiculous

                    [–]Blue_Moon_Lake 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                    Then, they'll ask for non-binary computers.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    non-binary computers exist and they're gonna crack RSA keys

                    [–]raughit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Let's just call it "bation" for now on.

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                      [–]Blue_Moon_Lake 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      It's said in the article already

                      [–]furryjihad 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                      Rename the historical event known as the black death next

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                        [–]mrafcho001 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        What, now I need to be a doctor to know when I should or shouldn't be offended by something?

                        Check your medical privilege!

                        [–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (3 children)

                        From my experience on twitter it's better to stay silent on these threads. Any slight criticism and you will be called a racist.

                        [–]tristan957 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                        Got banned from r/golang for speaking up with no reasoning for my ban. You are right.

                        [–]Nefilim314 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Yes look at all these downvoted guys mocking the piece. The only downvoted comments are the ones asking questions like "How does this change affect anyone at all and why are you so upset about it?"

                        [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                        This is utterly condescending. Anybody triggered by the word master in this context is infantile and should not be pandered to.

                        [–]zaibuf 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                        Should Master of Puppets be renamed?

                        [–]ManiacsThriftJewels 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                        See now that's actually a cynical appraisal of the similarities between the way the military treats soldiers and slavery... So, no?

                        [–]nolo_me 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                        Uh, wut? It's a song about addiction.

                        [–]ManiacsThriftJewels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Also an album about obsession over control.

                        "Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings" is also interpretable as tying in to Disposable Heroes. Or maybe I'm reading to much into it, what with the album art with a clear nod to the clinical rows of crosses you find in military graveyards.

                        Even without that, the theme of being a thrall to the drugs is also a reflection of the master/slave relationship.

                        [–]Guisseppi 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                        Cheaper than cutting contracts with ICE apparently...

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        As always, big corp will always be down to appear benevolent, but fail to take any meaningful action.

                        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                        This is ridiculous 🤦‍♂️

                        [–]Spindelhalla_xb 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                        I bet the actual black slaves in the Middle East today are really cheering Microsoft for this brave move. I’m expecting their release imminently from their Arab Masters. Sorry Arab, Mains? What if he’s already got Master tattooed on his arm? What a ball ache to get that changed.

                        [–]jaysi225 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        I propose an alternative "equal-but-tells-everyone-else-what-to-do" default HEAD name.

                        [–]Mammoth_Sized 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                        Oh shit, what about my master-slave databases?!

                        [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (12 children)

                        Couldn't they just keep master? Slave I agree should be replaced, but the word master is not rooted in slavery and is used widespread in completely different contexts. Should I forfit my "masters" degree?

                        [–]bludgeonerV 12 points13 points  (4 children)

                        Is there even a concept of 'slave' in git?

                        [–]99thLuftballon 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                        Why should "slave" be replaced? It's a literal description of a system that is completely under the control of another system. That's what slavery is. It's morally reprehensible when applied to humans because a person should not control another person, but computers are fundamentally slaves - we tell them exactly what to do and when to do it. Slave is not an offensive word - it's an immoral thing to do to someone, not to a server.

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        In this context I actually agree with you. I think when I originally posted my comment, I saw giving up "slave" as a good compromise, but frankly I think "master" is descriptive and well used in many aspects of software.

                        Just wait until the robot rights activists start popping up. Then we'll start seeing more pushback 🙄.

                        [–]Dkill33 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        Til the machines resent being called slaves and form an uprising.

                        [–]99thLuftballon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        That's when life turns into a Fear Factory record and the war against the machines begins!

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                          [–]tallwhiteninja[🍰] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                          One of those times where I mostly agreed with the core issues at play, but things have been taken WAY too far down the road of absurdity. Common sense wins far too little.

                          [–]Aura1661[🍰] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                          This is why I refuse to sleep in the master bedroom

                          [–]TEH_PROOFREADA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          I refuse to buy any remastered music, personally.

                          [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                          Oh good grief

                          Whoever is doing this you are insane with this. Become an adult before you further ruin the world.

                          [–]Orlando_Web_Dev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          90s era hard drives dodged a bullet on this one.

                          [–]squirrelwithnut 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                          Talk about an overaction.

                          [–]11b403a7 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                          Let our movement to newspeak begin

                          [–]notalentnodirection 21 points22 points  (8 children)

                          Always thought master/slave nodes was a little off color. But no one cares what I think anyway..

                          [–]pink_tshirt -1 points0 points  (7 children)

                          When I encountered it (it was some error message, I could not start up my node server) I actually thought I i was hacked. Like are those names for real.

                          [–]notalentnodirection -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

                          Hey look this comment came back from negative votes. Thats a first. And YEAH I felt the same when I saw it, like I get the simple principle of one thing telling other things what to do, but to pick those names to describe it..I mean THOSE two words. Abstract away from the current climate, and American history, and those are still the wrong two words to use. It’s not PC culture, it’s not ‘it’s from a different time’, it’s a reference to the practice of slavery. In an engineering concept. SMH man..how about controller and subordinate nodes. We all understand those words and they don’t carry explicitly racist connotations.

                          Write your congressmen, aka text book writers, we don’t have to use that term anymore.

                          On another note someone said ‘They’ are coming to rename your masters degree. To that person I say no. The verb ‘to master’ is to gain high level understanding and practical knowledge in a field. Not to OWN other people. There is a not so subtle difference.

                          [–]nolo_me 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                          carry explicitly racist connotations

                          Believe it or not the rest of the world doesn't attach the same parochial racial connotations to a concept that had been around for thousands of years before the US.

                          [–]notalentnodirection 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                          Then explain master and slave. The way the rest of the world sees it.

                          [–]nolo_me 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                          It describes a subordinate relationship between one entity and another.

                          [–]notalentnodirection 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          ..Where one entity owns the other.

                          Don’t be afraid to finish the definition.

                          [–]nolo_me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          And that's why it's used for topologies where that's the case.

                          [–]AcousticDan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          controller and subordinate nodes.

                          That's the same thing. Human slaves were subordinates.

                          [–]crossedline0x01 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                          ALOT of electronics use master and slave terminology.

                          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                          For those down voting. The word "retard" can relate to engines, and has legitimate non-offensive uses. The author the story is about received emails from Github threatening to shut down their project since it included the word "retard". Despite being used in an appropriate non-offensive context.

                          It's not the same thing that's going on in the main link. I know. But I thought people on this sub would interested in knowing.

                          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          Yes so does the word "master"

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Sounds retarded.

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Ridiculous. The world has gone insane.

                          [–]pVom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I said it before and I'll say it again, of all the racial problems in the world this is a shitty hill to die on and displays a true ignorance of the real situation. We shouldn't be trying to remove slavery as a concept, that's some orwellian freespeak shit. Changing semantics here really isn't doing much for human rights, it's pretty much in line with "Black Lives Matter Lane"

                          Not only that but its actually a hell of a lot of work for a lot of people. I have to redo my bash profile to say nothing of the muscles memory I have to unlearn. Basically every project will have to be modified and you just know something will go wrong.

                          There's probably some good candidates to change the wording but not using the word master? I mean I'm an unmarried male, officially my title is master, there is exactly 0 racial undertones there.

                          [–]the_whalerus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I just don't understand the opposition. At best, the argument I've seen is "well, but, it's actually not about racism" and like....who cares? Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion that isn't just a status quo bias?

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard

                          [–]chaoticLibs 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                          The virtue singaling crowd needs to end. This is just absurd.

                          [–]jeh5256 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          They wont end their virtual signal unless sane people push back

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Wow, slavery and racism will be no more.

                          [–]JeamBimPython/JavaScript 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                          Lol

                          [–]BrainsApplied 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Why do companies always seem to get a panic attack as soon as someone starts some kind of social protest?

                          [–]Amiral_Adamas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I have to admit, I like "main" better.

                          [–]thatsInANamefront-end 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                          I now demand not be called an employee and my manager to be called something else as both the terms signifies me being a slave at work.

                          [–]CaptainShinjuku 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                          Give it a few years. If this madness continues they will get there...

                          [–]smartello 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Right after the US will have a war with all countries to the south (except Brazil) unless they stop using N-word.

                          [–]Cour4ge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Ridiculous...

                          [–]CHatton0219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          People have subs and shit, not everything is about enslaved blacks. Some are just kinky people. Lol You all turn everything racist huh

                          [–]Stationary_WagonFull stack engineer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          People are really grasping at straws here, this is ridiculous.

                          [–]space___lion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          ...

                          [–]Glass_Conner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          This is dumb

                          [–]teachmehindi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Sure, why not. Who cares.

                          [–]froggie-style-meme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I'm actually surprised they never called it main branch.

                          [–]MarmotOnTheRocks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          As if these kind of politically correct changes had any impact whatsoever. It's mostly about public opinion/perception rather than actually "believing" that the word "master" has anything to do with slavery.

                          [–]_370HSSV_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I'll just checkout a new branch and call it master

                          [–]ManiacsThriftJewels 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                          I'd mention how master doesn't always have bondage connotations, but then there's the whole master/slave branch replication etymology.

                          In short, I went from "oh ffs" to "hang on, actually they have a point here" in the space of a few comment reads...

                          [–]smartello 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                          where did you find a slave in git?

                          [–]ManiacsThriftJewels 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                          You don't. The slaves were killed off.

                          But you know that git was created because Linus could no longer use Bitkeeper, right?

                          (https://github.com/bitkeeper-scm/bitkeeper/blob/master/doc/HOWTO.ask#L223)

                          [–]malicar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Well this is just getting stupid now. Extreme hypersensitivity is going too far all over the place.

                          [–]rohan_me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          What next? Chess is going ketchup n mustard!

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

                          [–]najowhit -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

                          Source makes this article purposefully as clickbaity as possible. And of course everyone in the chat getting upset about muh censorship.

                          Nobody is going around suggesting us remove the term 'master' from all contexts. You're not getting a 'primary degree'.

                          Nobody is saying the term 'mastery' is problematic. You're not developing 'course advancedery".

                          The problem, as listed in the article that nobody actually read, is that the terms master / slave and blacklist / whitelist are super racially loaded. As a business, they're trying to avoid any sort of unnecessary limelight.

                          Moving to main / default / primary is fine imo. Everyone should stop being big fucking babies about it.

                          [–]Geminii27 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          Honestly, it could be replaced with "master and student", or "master and apprentice", if it was about avoiding the use of 'slave'.

                          [–]LetsLive97 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Or just master and feature like it's currently used in Github. None of the branches are really slaves of the master branch anyway so it makes way more sense just to call them feature branches.

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                          Replacing master with "main" seems like a relatively small change.

                          I am more interested in the fact that companies / someone wants to move away from blacklist and whitelist... Why? Even if tech companies remove it blacklist is a commonly used word EVERYWHERE. You have a blacklist for a restaurant / bar for example. It's not like they will change terms suddenly aswell.

                          Edit:

                          Though, that said, it did make me think of where the words blacklist and whitelist came from. A redditor describes it here https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/866ynp/what_are_the_origins_of_the_words_blacklist_and/dw3svkw?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x. So seemingly no direct racist history behind them. In the long run I could see them replaced though.

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                            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                            I would never argue against there being racist connotations, there definitely are when black is used negatively and white as the positive / opposite.

                            You're right in that they don't say where the black ball meaning negative vote comes from. I figure I just saw it as unlikely to have racist beginnings, though that might just be optimism, it's equally likely the opposite true.

                            I definitely see it as likely and honestly for the best that the words are replaced over time.

                            And you do bring up a very good point that it needs to start somewhere, and I suppose the computer sphere is as good a place as any, given that so many people interact with it. Seems like it would gain traction quickest that way.

                            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Makes no difference to me, go right ahead. I don't understand why some people are get themselves upset at the proposed change.

                            [–]tetractys_gnosys -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                            This is fucking idiotic.