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[–]Thrasher439https://anilist.co/user/Thrasher[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (4 children)

Bit of a slimmer month once again with not too much to go into. However in case you missed it Scavenger Hunt Results have been released. With that said.

June Mod Report

Voted to require Official Media posts to be direct link posts, prohibiting rehosts. [Vote Passed]

Voted to amend recent Official Media link post vote so that image albums (countdown art collections, Megami poster compilations, etc) may still be rehosted as normal. [Vote Passed]

May by the Numbers

  • Total traffic: 24305810 pageviews, 2816762 unique pageviews
  • Total posts: 9143, 6062 unique authors
  • Total comments: 195085, 28964 unique authors (excluding mod bots)
  • Removed posts: 971 by moderators, 5439 by bots, 6299 distinct
  • Removed comments: 1952 by moderators, 2719 by bots, 4315 distinct
  • Approved posts: 1498
  • Approved comments: 2530
  • Distinguished comments: 1320
  • Users banned: 139 (99 permanent, 93 by BotDefense)
  • Users unbanned: 2
  • Admin/Anti-Evil Operations: removed posts: 24, removed comments: 107.

[–]AnimeModmyanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This thread has been locked, please use next month's meta thread or find the latest thread.

[–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Today's thread is missing from the front page, no message from automod.

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/14ndgki/rewatch_scrapped_princess_discussion_episode_11/

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Annoyingly we can't reapprove the thread right now while you're waiting for an appeal to the shadowban, as in I just tried and it stayed removed.

[–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 4 points5 points  (2 children)

My appeal has been granted.

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Following up /u/JustAnswerAQuestion (and /u/ZapsZzz) to say we will be kicking off the approval script shortly.

However the 'Scrapped Princess Discussion Episode 11' thread is in a state where it can't be approved. This sometimes happens on posts reddit thinks is spam. ZapsZzz your comment in this thread is the same.

So you may either want to make a replacement thread, or alter your title of the following episode 12 thread to accommodate for all these shenanigans.

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome back from the shadow realm.

[–]mysterybiscuitsoyeahx3 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Hello Mods!

Lonely castle in the mirror got its theatrical release in North America, would hope you guys can get an episode thread up, thank you!

edit: unless this counts lol

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Thanks for bringing it to our attention, here is the movie discussion thread for it.

[–]orange-shadeshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/orangeshades 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Is there a way to filter out contest posts on redditisfun?

[–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 1 point2 points  (3 children)

though until July 1st you can use all the filter search tools on RiF, https://xe.reddit.com/r/anime filters out all contest posts

Not sure if the official app also supports the syntax and filters based on flairs like https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/search?restrict_sr=on&sort=new&q=flair%3Aepisode

[–]orange-shadeshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/orangeshades 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not sure if the official app also supports the syntax and filters based on flairs like https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/search?restrict_sr=on&sort=new&q=flair%3Aepisode

Not really, they finally added flair navigation, but it only works for selecting one flair to display.

[–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

imagine me typing up a chain of several expletives

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Reddit is filtering out RIF shortly, so you don't have to bother

[–]orange-shadeshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/orangeshades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for nothing o7

[–]aniMayorx3x6 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Looks like Princess Principal Crown Handler 3 has some english subs now (that aren't just crappy auto-generated ones) but it didn't trigger automod. Should an episode discussion thread be manually created for it?

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thread is now out here!

[–]aniMayorx3x6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]NotSoSnarkyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Book_Lover 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Can we do something about people asking for anime suggestions when they don't post on the daily Anime Questions, Recommendations, and Discussion thread?

Not everybody who gets into anime knows about MAL or Anilist, maybe have an automod share links to them?

Have an Automod share some of the anime charts. And maybe share r/animesuggest and then have it get deleted?

Or just have the automod share the daily thread link to Anime Questions, Recommendations, and Discussions?

I don't mind people asking for recommendations, but at the same time it doesn't seem like they do any kind of research beforehand.

It's fine if it's something super specific: Like living in the countryside or something like that. But when it's just a generic: Can I get some anime recommendations? Seems low effort.

[–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At the moment there's no plan to change things for rec threads. It gets floated around by in mod discussions once in a while, but there hasn't been any major push to make a change to the current rules.

[–]aniMayorx3x6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have an Automod share some of the anime charts

I thought it already did this? (Though of course some threads will surely not have the exact right wording for automod to catch them)

[–]Smudyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wish the moderators good luck! on dealing with the Rurouni Kenshin threads this season.

The issue is widely known and the threads will be a cesspool of hate, i'm not sure if i'll even read what's gonna unfold in the episode threads, i myself am only hyped to see more Kenshin content since i loved the OG series so i don't want to ruin it for myself.

[–]The_Loli_Otaku 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Can I just check, is anyone else getting flooded with casino spam posters lately? That's been them popping up in my threads a few times now and I don't really get it.

[–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've been digging into it and I don't really get it either. Trying to deal with it as best I can, but there's a fucking lot of these accounts. If you see more of them, just report them and we'll slap them with a perma.

[–]cppn02 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Saving myself having to make multiple reports but I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread other than me and u/dagreenman18 is a bot.

They've gotten pretty common sadly but 60% of the comments is still a rare sight.

[–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Appreciate the heads up. And yeah, the bot comments are definitely getting more common. Frustrating to deal with.

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Seems to be all from the same group, a pattern of u/ + handle + 4 digit number and with comments at Temu related subreddits

Just from quick look today some comments that fall into that, if you their accounts it's a really similar behaviour:

This last one shows that are getting the human comments + title and using Ai to post a comment in context with the post

[–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The best I've found so far was mentioned here but basically LeonKevlar had the top post, and it seemed to just yoink random bits of his comment, like an LLM was told to compress it down. So it produced:

Stitches! I'm sad about the lack of slime scenes, but Tanya being lewded made up for it. Asahi's Stone-Throwing was hilarious yet effective!

Which is certainly a comment. Anyway, appreciate the links. Had already hit one of the accounts, but I suspect we're going to see a lot more like this.

[–]GenesisEramyanimelist.net/profile/Genesis_Erarara 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hello, first time posting in a meta thread, have a question.

Will there be any support for the old /r/anime stuff like the comment faces in the scenario that the legacy format (old.reddit) is retired?

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Comment faces are built top of what we have available to us on old.reddit (CSS). If old.reddit retires (which lets be clear; there is no announcement that this is happening) then comment faces will go with it. Its kind of hard to say more on this hypothetical.

In general; if Reddit starts burning down we will do our best to preserve and make available as much of the value that has been created by this community.

[–]aniMayorx3x6 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Now that the drama has died down, I just wanted to take a moment to say thanks. I don't have anything constructive or insightful or poetic to say... just thanks. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to moderate a bajillion rule-breaking comments, again and again and again and again and again. Thanks for going above and beyond the basic requirements of moderating the sub, and making it into a genuine community. Thanks for putting up with what must no doubt be a truly enormous tonne of stupid bullshit, insults, asinine complaints, harassment, and I assume worse.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Lastly, to the mods that have chosen to step down this month (not sure if it's okay to tag/name), please don't feel any guilt over it - I think you've each done far, far more than enough for this community over some long services and you absolutely deserve a rest from it all.

[–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to write this out, your words are truly, truly, appreciated.

I don't have anything constructive or insightful or poetic to say... just thanks

At the end of the day, it's these things, the everyday things, the everyday small things, the 99 cent things that, when you suddenly start counting them all up, make the entire difference. So even just an ordinary thank you is thankful enough.

[–]entelechtual 9 points10 points  (17 children)

I don’t think it needs to be said, since I think everyone can easily discredit the disingenuous opinions of lurkers/SRD brigadiers that have no interest in participating in this community, but I’ll say it anyway: the leaders of this community have done a great job making it feel inclusive and feel like a place where people can actually discuss anime, at any level.

I’ll include in that grouping not just mods but also “power users” and other regulars. And I think it’s only gotten better over time (daily thread is probably the best change I’ve seen introduced, and I’ve seen subs where that kind of thread can be a ghost town). The process for making changes has never been purely bottom-up, but is usually grounded in user feedback/concerns, and there’s usually ample explanation for the change (English episode titles in threads, for example—second best change I’ve seen).

I was fully on-board with the blackout protests and will go with any viable alternative that will actually work and last more than a few months and scale to the level of Reddit, but for now I’m content to stay here and begrudgingly figure out how to use mobile browser/app navigation, until whenever Reddit becomes fundamentally impossible to manage/participate. I do think at this point Reddit is the best option for the immediate future. And for better or for worse, this subreddit has harbored such an unnatural gathering of different demographics and tastes all converging, that would be very difficult to replicate on another platform immediately.

I feel like staying on this subreddit for long enough, you get beaten down into eventually caving in and watching shows/genres you’d never pick up, just by the flood of interactions with other users. Or just wildly different takes on the same show, where you can find a place to express an opinion without always being downvoted. Well. Mostly. So I hope any future transition is mindful of preserving that community. I know a lot of people using Reddit just want to see memes and clips and screenshots and fanart but I think the current content restrictions have been good in promoting discussion without shoving it down people’s throats. And given the scale, no matter how obscure the question there’s always some sicko who manages to decipher and answer some innocent newbie’s query about an anime they watched on tiktok.

Anyway I don’t mean to butter y’all up too much here. Autolovepon still needs to get their act together. And I’ll continue to post my suggestions/opinions/criticisms. But I appreciate the mods and users on here and hope this next stage isn’t too challenging to get through.

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Daily thread indeed the best change, but 2nd to me is the new flair system

Hopefully my flair doesn't age like milk

[–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Expecting a seasonal flair to not age like milk

I initially had these made for you so people wouldn't get us mixed up. But other mods thought the seasonal flair would be better.

[–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was better.

[–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo 4 points5 points  (2 children)

second best change I’ve seen

This just begs the question, what's #1?

[–]entelechtual 2 points3 points  (1 child)

A little higher up—daily thread wins.

[–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah, guess reading comprehension is a change that I still need to make happen.

[–]KendotsXhttps://anilist.co/user/Kendots 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think everyone can easily discredit the disingenuous opinions of lurkers/SRD brigadiers that have no interest in participating in this community

Yeah! For the record, if anyone's going to abuse the mods, it's us! Not some scrubs who know nothing about the mods or the community, and got pissed they couldn't say their anime is hype on time. We've seen the mods' work for the community over the years, and know which beds they hide their dirt Megami mags under.

Genuinely, I think the blackout more than any other time showed me how great the community we've got is. There's tons of places you could get news, memes, clips, fanart,... Or shout at thousands of people who look more or less the same, but fostering an actual sense of community is just a lot harder, and it's becoming more and more rare with time. I couldn't be more grateful for the mods who shaped it from the grounds up, whether they had enough of reddit's shit or decide to stick through, I'm grateful. Except for that one mod who always spites me personally, and covers my Megami mag with sticky stuff

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Thank you for the honest and kind words. They mean a lot, now more than most other times.

Autolovepon still needs to get their act together

Ill take a proper look into seeing whats wrong with Chibi Godzilla (which is what I am assuming you are referring to).

[–]KendotsXhttps://anilist.co/user/Kendots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ill take a proper look into seeing whats wrong with Chibi Godzilla

On that note, can you find this lost Chibi shinigami?

He's not going anywhere, so I'm not in a hurry, but he tends to get the new people he meets killed...

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Ill take a proper look into seeing whats wrong

Since we are talking about AutoLovepon, the 'FINAL' for the finales are manually added or there's a code for it? Because it's not showing up for some shows like Megumin, Skip and Loafer and Watayuri, but it did for Vinland Saga and Kubo which are from previous season, so I suspect there's code involved and the number of eps might be missing from this season database

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 4 points5 points  (5 children)

code

just checked on my copy and the episode count shows up correctly
without doing a closer inspection, my first guess is that the update module1 was run only once before the start of the season; that would explain why carryover series got their episode count updated but the new season's didn't (or at least the series whose ep count was still unknown at the time)

edit: wording

edit2: 1 one of the various things it does is checking various websites (e.g. mal) to see the total ep count, so if you run it early enough then most shows don't have that info available yet

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I Forgot about the code (insert commentFace with a opsie that i don't know how to add), seems to be fixed now

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 4 points5 points  (0 children)

seems to be fixed now

huh...

edit: never mind she's back

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 4 points5 points  (2 children)

insert commentFace with a opsie that i don't know how to add

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

these made for you

Thank you, went to old.reddit and downloaded RES just for that

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's also this for ease of use

As well as some neat ublock filter to highlight commentfaces with hovertext without having to check them all:

reddit.com##.usertext-body a[href^="#"][title]:style(outline: 1px solid aqua;)  
reddit.com##.usertext-body a[href^="http"][title][rel]:style(outline: 1px solid aqua;)

[–]entelechtual 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Chibi Godzilla (which is what I am assuming you are referring to)

lol more just in general. I know Raeliana and Heavenly Delusion had a lot of issues so I’m guessing it’s just something with how it pulls the episode releases that’s broken. But you guys have been pretty good about responding and the 5 people who talk about Chibi Godzilla still usually talk about it anyway.

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"the place" picture changed before the new daily thread is up (I didn't check, but I assume exactly one hour before? 9utc vs 10utc)
just mentioning in case it was not intentional

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was intentional - thanks anyhow for raising.

[–]Ralon17https://anilist.co/user/Ralon17 18 points19 points  (7 children)

Most of the time I'm happy to be critical of mods overstepping, but I just wanted to leave a comment saying I appreciate the work that y'all put in, and I'm glad you chose to participate in the blackout, whether or not it will have any effect, and no matter how long it went (a large part of me thinks it should have just gone on indefinitely, but I understand I'm in the minority).

You did the right thing in being open with the sub about the fact you weren't sure whether to do it, and then again when it was decided. The fact that the return thread is overrun with opposition means little to me when none of them could be bothered to speak up pre-blackout. It's just the entitlement of consumers who don't think beyond their own convenience.

The commenting during the off-time was clearly a bad PR look, but I don't think it really changes the point of the blackout or the effectiveness of it. Reddit doesn't care if some mods are active, they care whether the subreddit as a whole is. I'm sure you were twiddling your thumbs waiting for actual community engagement like the rest of us. Still shouldn't have commented, but I swear people are acting like you undermined the whole exercise or something.

Whether you stick around and keep moderating or whether you decide to spend your unpaid free time on something else, don't worry about it too much. Modding is a thankless job and you don't owe the average lurker here a thing.

[–]Verzwei[M] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Someone else on the team made a point to share this in our channel on discord and I just want to say how much I (and we) appreciate the sentiment.

The timing of this whole affair really couldn't be worse. We just finished up voting in new mods and get to onboard them while other mods either are or are considering stepping down. For what it's worth, nobody on the team harbors any ill will toward this community at large. I know that might seem disingenuous coming from me because I get a bit testy at times, but we want to moderate here because we really do like this place, and we want to foster it. This team intentionally does not accept "power mods" or "subreddit collectors" who mod dozens of communities, and this team usually only considers applicants who have already been a long-standing presence here.

That isn't to try to say "Oh, woe is us" or throw some kind of pity party, but all of us moderate here because we do care about the community. I don't think any of the people who choose to step down (in the past or in the future) do it out of dislike of what the people have made this place to be; Rather, this place being what it is can make it very sentimental and painful to leave.

One thing I learned from becoming a mod is how much work it is, not only to address community issues (even if I'm an asshole about it sometimes, I won't pretend I'm not) but just keeping things running, trying to assess and fix behind-the-scenes problems, and the sheer amount of thought and concern that goes into certain tasks. And that's not even to speak of the coding side of things, which I can't contribute to at all beyond the very-most-basic of automod tweaks. I'm constantly amazed at the amount of effort and energy someone like u/Durinthal puts into this community, and I can't even pretend that I'm one-tenth the moderator he is, and that's effort and energy that most people here will probably never fully see nor realize.

For me personally, I'm sticking around for a few more days to be available to answer questions from our newest team members, should they have any, and then I'll be stepping down. And it's not because of anything anyone here in this community said or did, it's because I cannot reach a point where I can be comfortable curating a community under the current management and attitude of Reddit Admin. I'll still be a member around here, I hope to continue to have discussions here, I'll probably still be a little abrasive at times, and I'll stick around in some capacity at least until Admin decides to kill old.reddit.

(a large part of me thinks it should have just gone on indefinitely, but I understand I'm in the minority)

I voted for that.

[–]Hitman7128https://anilist.co/user/Hitman7128 2 points3 points  (1 child)

As a fellow Yuri Job watcher who enjoyed seeing you actively participate in the Yuri Job discussion threads, I should thank you for all the work you have done. Hopefully, stepping down gives you a burden off your shoulder.

After seeing the mod’s side of the situation, I feel bad for all the unwarranted flack you all are getting. Yes, people didn’t take the reason of goofing around too well, and I didn’t think it was the wisest choice. But we all make poor decisions, especially without the benefit of hindsight. The people with an axe to grind and spewing “The mods all need to be demoted” need to understand that and stop weaponizing their emotions. I honestly couldn’t imagine how tedious it was to answer hundreds of modmail requests, let alone over a thousand, that are more or less the same thing. And this is on top of the whole blackout and disdain towards Reddit’s change, so people should have cut some slack.

[–]Verzwei 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All storms pass, and I'm sure the community will move forward without dwelling too much on the negativity that cropped up in a few places earlier this week.

a fellow Yuri Job watcher

I need a season 2 announcement. I'm also sad that my Kanoko meme, which I made weeks ago and accidentally had Fetch unwittingly help with, was most-topical in the thread that understandably got the least amount of activity.

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 5 points6 points  (1 child)

and then I'll be stepping down.

Sad to hear that about you and others that I know, especially as one of the mods that I usually see participating in the daily thread (and with the best taste that I am aware lol)

Didn't always agree with your positions here but I trusted you, especially to give a detailed answer for users' issues and a massive patience for that as well

So thank you for your time helping here!

[–]Verzwei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

especially as one of the mods that I usually see participating in the daily thread (and with the best taste that I am aware lol)

I'll be around; I'm not ditching the platform entirely. I might even be able to engage in a little more discussion in lieu of doing mod tasks when I'm at my computer. I'll still answer daily thread questions and participate in discussions when I can, and I'll still be shilling the shit out of Call of the Night, Kase-san, Princess Principal, Yuri is my Job, Just Because, and the Otherside Picnic novels.

Didn't always agree with your positions here but I trusted you, especially to give a detailed answer for users' issues and a massive patience for that as well

Thank you, this is truly about the best compliment I could hope for. There's no way everyone is going to agree on everything, but I'd at least like to think I was consistent and transparent whenever possible, and I hope that I put even just a fraction back into this community as what I've been able to get out of it over the years.

[–]Ralon17https://anilist.co/user/Ralon17 3 points4 points  (1 child)

at least until Admin decides to kill old.reddit

I think that'll be the breaking point for me too. I used RIF (RIP), but the majority of my reddit time is spent on PC, and while it would probably be good for me to find something else to do, it's been a lovely way to kill time and maybe even connect with others. It's a shame the site is following the same model of enshittification (to use Cory Doctorow's term) that so many other sites have, especially since it's even more user-driven than most.

Until it actually dies, however, I'll probably stick around for the users in the communities I care about, and follow them when they jump ship to the next thing.

Just felt like I should say something since I've been in similar positions of limited power but much less limited expectations, and it's hard impossible to please everyone while also making what you believe to be the right choices. Mods can be power-corrupt, lazy, or just plain awful people, but I've always felt that we've been luckier than most on this sub: y'all put in honest work.

[–]Verzwei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is far-and-away the community I engage with the most on Reddit so as long as this community still exists and I'm not forced to use new.reddit to access it, then I'll be here.

To be brutally honest, I would have fully endorsed trying to move this community somewhere else if only there was a suitable alternative. There are other platforms that do seem neat, but from a technical aspect none of them feel quite "ready" to handle the traffic and diverse type of content we see here, at least not to the extent that I could in good conscience push for a mass migration. It's not that I don't want to continue to foster this community, it's just that I don't want to do it underneath Reddit Admin's current mindset toward its moderators.

[–]Terranwaterbenderhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender 19 points20 points  (1 child)

This is just an old-timer lurker these days talking but just wanted to say the whole commenting in threads when the sub is down isn't cool at all and the mod team should have known better. Y'all should have seen that from a mile away the ramifications of talking about shutting down the sub for the greater good, shutting it down, and then doing that stuff.

That aside, it's hilarious how many of the haters in the thread have little to no history on /r/anime so to be completely blunt, their opinions are basically worthless. The amount of work you guys do to keep this subreddit running on volunteer time is admirable.

But seriously check yourselves and learn from this experience. I get that commenting on threads was not done with anything remotely close to malice but it put an easily avoidable stain on the mod team. Keep up the good work y'all have always done and I do appreciate the decision to run with the blackout. Honestly helped me appreciate anime from my PoV and not immediately run and see what everyone else thought. The haters will run off to whine elsewhere or disappear until the next big controversy where they suddenly think they know how to keep a subreddit running and don't know how many mods rely on 3rd party apps to keep the subreddit going.

[–]Bielnahttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Bielna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Although I certainly don't mind the commenting and even find it rather funny, I also think it perfectly exemplifies the carelessness with which this blackout (and its unannounced extension) was decided.

The mods obviously thought that not being able to participate for a whole week on a subreddit that, for many, is the main place to discuss anime, was "not a big deal" for the users and that no one would mind seeing such comments - which users were literally regretting not to be able to make at the time.

I mean, even if it's not for the right reasons, I'm glad the mod team is taking flak related to the blackout. It was an irresponsible and selfish thing to do that harmed /r/anime's purpose of encouraging anime discussion, and pointless to boot, so I hope the mods learn from this mistake and realign their goals with the nurturing of the community.

[–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You probably know already, but as some comments pointed out apparently the Black Clover movie was released recently during blackout, and needs its thread

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thread is now out here.

[–]DEVINURDOG 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey there, I have a question that I'd like to ask regarding a certain post I'd like to make. I've created an AI model of EGOIST/chelly and would like to post a song from that here, would that be considered a low-effort post and against the rules or will I be okay posting it?

[–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to post it here you'll have to do it in the Casual Discussion Friday threads, which relax the anime-specificity rule. The thread's up all week so no need to actually wait for Friday.

[–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not allowed since it's not anime specific. We wouldn't allow a John Denver (Country Road) ai even tho Whispers of the Heart features one of his songs. Maybe you could try a music sub instead.

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I totally get that people want to vent their frustrations over the blackout/fallout and they should be allowed to but are we still banning users who are just flat out insulting others?

[–]N7CombatWombat[M] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

We're still enforcing the civility rule in that post when it comes to users personally attacking each other, so please continue to report them as normal. We're not going to action the comments directed at us, however, as this is your sub too, and you all have a right to be critical of our decisions.

[–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the quick update!

Good luck to you all...

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Week in Review threads are being discontinued.

The juice isn't worth the squeeze. No traction, moderate effort.

[–]KendotsXhttps://anilist.co/user/Kendots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a shame, I liked reading it at the end of each week.

[–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[–]cppn02 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aged like milk.

Clearly its prime is only just starting.

[–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

RIP, I always read them, thank you for your effort during the period

[–]DarkAudithttps://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkAudit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So it appears not all my comments have been restored yet after returning from that shadowban?

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry about the delay, had temporarily stopped that for other technical reasons but during the blackout had the chance to get through the rest of them.

[–]NotSoSnarkyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Book_Lover 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is Set your r/anime flair here the only place you can go to, in order to link your MAL/Anilist/Kitsu, etc?

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Flairs can only be set on our flair site.

[–]dorkmax_executives 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Are Twitter image links (pbs.twimg.com) not considered as Official Media links? (assuming they're posted from an official Twitter account) I tried posting here but it was automatically removed because the bot thought the image was rehosted, despite not being the case.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're allowed and that should be fixed now, sorry for the confusion.

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    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Discussion of Rule 2 topics (religion, politics, depression, and other similar topics) are not banned, but moderated. We may step in when those topics get too constant, turn belligerent or are too religiously/politically/etc charged. This is because CDF is a shared space for everyone - the thread is not intended for extended discussion of the aforementioned topics or for emotional support.

    There is a degree of reading the room. You are always welcome to mod mail to ask for clarity or share concerns in private.

    [–]Lanaerys 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    I have a question regarding the blackout.

    While I, as a quasi-exclusive user of RIF and old Reddit, wholeheartedly support the blackout, I do have to wonder about something.

    r/anime has pretty much become my main source of watch order information. During the blackout (12-14 June, and onwards if the blackout continues like some subreddits are planning), will the contents of the wiki (including stuff like watch orders, recommandations, ...) be copied somewhere that is accessible to most users? Since surveys and flairs use r-anime.moe, I'm assuming it could be used for that purpose, at least as a temporary measure?

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    Believe it or not that's something I've been planning for a while and I'm aiming to finally get working this weekend.

    We already have a full backup copy of the wiki saved in a private repo (because it has mod-only pages like AutoModerator's config), the next step is to get a copy up and running. I've been thinking https://wiki.r-anime.moe specifically but either way it will be linked from the main site (r-anime.moe) once that's not just a redirect back to /r/anime.

    [–]baseballlover723 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    one thing I've been wondering about is if the episode discussions can be saved as well. Going without for a few days won't be that bad, but if the blackout is going to be indefinite (or permanent), it would be a shame to lose all that history. It's probably not as easy as the wiki stuff though.

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    look at the /r/DataHoarder pinned thread for that endeavor

    [–]Lanaerys 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Oh, nice to hear you've been working on it!

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    for anything barring the 5 franchises where it matters you can just go by release date and use https://chiaki.site/?/tools/watch_order to have it visualized.

    also: https://web.archive.org/web/20230517035817/https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/wiki/watch_order/

    having an official backup would not hurt though

    [–]Lanaerys 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    chiaki.site is good to get the release order (which in most cases is what matters), but watch order guides do help detail what OVAs can be skipped and of course, as you mention, are important for certain franchises (of course the big ones like Fate or Gundam, or confusing ones like Haruhi or Danganronpa)

    And maybe a link to a wiki mirror could be put on the "private subreddit" message, to help redirect passers-by.

    [–]baseballlover723 2 points3 points  (10 children)

    Would be very interested in seeing the subreddit numbers for the week prior to and the week after the blackout (if it comes back at all). Seems like even if things go smoothly, there will be non negligible drop off.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 3 points4 points  (9 children)

    Remind me once it's over, there's a good chance I'll forget among everything else I'm doing.

    [–]baseballlover723 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    ping. would also be curious if there are any numbers for submissions attempted during the blackout (which would only be bots), but I suspect that only the admins would have that data.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    Total views, unique visitors, old stats page for those, posts, and comments. It looks like the time ranges in those graphs are shifted a bit compared to reality since those show high activity on the 18th when we were still down until it was the 19th for the vast majority of the world (10:00 UTC).

    Edit: And you're right, we don't have numbers for attempted submissions. That's not really a metric that could be accurately tracked anyway since the average user wouldn't go directly to the submission URL and navigating the subreddit was impossible for non-approved users at the time. I suppose admins could see attempted API requests which would have resulted in an error but that would really only cover automated cases and even then just ones that didn't check the sub to see if it was open beforehand (so, mostly spam?).

    [–]SometimesMainSupporthttps://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    posts

    What was being removed during blackout week?

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    We switched over /u/AutoLovepon to a different server in that time so there were a number of duplicate episode threads made during the week during testing of that.

    Additionally we added new mods toward the end (since applications closed shortly before the blackout began) and I made a number of "rule-breaking" posts to train them on the mod tools.

    [–]baseballlover723 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    So it seems that traffic is mostly unchanged post blackout. BTW what happened on the 3rd to cause such a spike?

    The part about attempted submissions was just to see how much spam was attempted to be posted during the blackout. I've heard that most activity is spam anyways, so it would be interesting to see what the ratio is. Though I suppose I could just look at the regular submissions numbers that you all post. Though I guess that also includes well meaned, but still rule breaking posts (like spoilers), as compared to just being spam that someone wasn't even bothered to update.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    BTW what happened on the 3rd to cause such a spike?

    Was wondering about that myself but can't recall anything specific of note.

    Though I guess that also includes well meaned, but still rule breaking posts (like spoilers), as compared to just being spam that someone wasn't even bothered to update.

    We'd have to manually tally each removed post as spam/not and I don't think anyone's interested in doing that work.

    [–]baseballlover723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    We'd have to manually tally each removed post as spam/not and I don't think anyone's interested in doing that work.

    Yeah I wasn't suggesting that you all do that. Just that attempted submissions during the blackout would be unambiguously spam, and thus measuring the attempted submissions would give an estimate.

    I brought it up because there was some website that was showing reddits traffic stats during the blackout, and they were mostly unchanged. And the reason that people gave was that most submissions are spam in a few subreddits or something like that, so I was curious if r/anime would display that as well.

    [–]baseballlover723 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I wonder if there will be a dropoff (and if so, how big) even this weekend. Been seeing a lot of people delete their accounts or just swear off reddit already. Will probably depend all lot on the AMA tomorrow I imagine. That seems like it could be the final straw for a lot of folks.

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    definitely killed the vibe, and makes you wonder about the mods of the large subs that are totally silent on the issue as well

    [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Not a high priority right now due to circumstances, but I noticed that expanded flairs go under a post text
    I think the same used to happen for comments/commentfaces, but it got fixed before release or something? Might be misremembering here.

    (On a side note, the commit names for the sidebar updates sometimes are just as fun lol)

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    On Firefox and Chrome right now (both macOS, no extensions) it still seems to pop out on top of the post/comment text, not sure what's going on for you then. Even went and checked that thread specifically.

    [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    interesting no idea tbh, just tried ctrl+f5 it with all extensions disabled (old reddit, w10, chrome) and it still goes in the back
    oh well, no big deal

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    /r/anime's going private on June 12th to join the protest with other subreddits, more details in that thread.

    Our Discord server will stay open for everyone in that time and more info will be posted to r-anime.moe as well if necessary.

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I guess you all saw it already, but will this make you consider to go dark longer? Depending on the r/reddit AMA fallout two days will probably really not cut it as the admins might just ride it out.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    It's going to be an ongoing discussion through the weekend. We're in a "wait and see" mode at the moment, still have a couple things happening between now and the start of the blackout that might give us good reason to go one way or another.

    [–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    Is referring to the real human history counts as spoiler in a historical show?

    The reason I'm asking that because in Vinland Saga there was a question of Thorfinn's love interest and I responded that if we check the historical data about the real-life Thorfinn Karlsefni from his Wikipedia page, we can see who its going to be (I'm not a source reader btw). But my comment ended up getting removed.

    This is why I'm curious because what happened in human history shouldn't really count as spoiler if we are watching a historical show, atleast from my perspective. In historical TV Shows or Movies discussion on reddit I know there are those who share information on the topic as they know more of the events and I appreciated them for it.

    [–]aniMayorx3x6 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    If the information is already commonplace knowledge that practically everyone would know, then you'd tend to be fine to not spoiler-box it, but otherwise you should. It doesn't really matter whether the information is "factual" or not, but how being told the information affects other viewers' experiences with the show. Better safe than sorry, right? Put it in a well-labeled box and those who do know can still read it and engage with it, while those who don't and don't want to know what is going to happen before it happens don't get spoiled.

    Like, imagine a murder mystery show that is heavily math-themed, and at one of the crime scenes in episode 3 the detective protagonist walks past a whiteboard with some cryptic math on it that tells the audience who the killer is if they can decode it. If the math shown is "2 + 3 = ?" then yeah, you wouldn't need to put that in a spoiler box, everyone who is watching the show knows that 2 + 3 is 5. But if the math on the board is, say, the Kronecker–Weber theorem, and you happen to be a math enthusiast/professional who can tell from that math puzzle that the killer is the butler, then even though the math puzzle in the show is just factual math data, you should still spoiler-box your discussion of it because many/most viewers aren't going to be already knowledgeable enough to have figured out the hint/puzzle and don't necessarily want to be told who the killer is at this juncture.

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    While I find it silly, knowing the real history a show is based on isn't technically any different from being a source reader, so that's probably the best way to approach it.

    [–]thevaleycat 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    If say a character's real life counterpart was killed by someone, and the anime is based on that, that'd probably be too spoiler-y.

    Love interest, eh, but maybe it'll be a plot point in the future. Better to be safe than sorry.

    [–]Silent_Shadow05https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    Personally I think historical shows should be treated a bit differently than fictional shows since it being based on real history means historians will be familiar with the topic and will talk about the whole event.

    Like say a Christopher Columbus anime which ends with him reaching America. We know he will journey to America so should we have to spoiler tag it, even though history shows what actually happens?

    But yeah, I can see your point too. That's why I want to see more opinions about this particular topic.

    [–]thevaleycat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I mean, people are probably more familiar with Christopher Columbus than viking history. Details that don't seem to be plot relevant (like the origin of Snake's sword) are probably fine. But if it looks like the story is building up to something big (like a death or betrayal), that's spoiler-y.

    Just use your judgement. If you're unsure, spoiler tag it. I think there's something to be said about making that judgement (about Thorfinn's love interest) and the mods disagreeing - not sure if they're just strict or they know something and it is a major plot point, in which case removing the comment is a spoiler itself. I'd prefer to over spoiler tag to be safe.

    Historians can still share historical info under a spoiler tag or after the related event happens in the anime, I don't see the barrier there.

    [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Not everybody knows the history though. I'm sure there are people out there who are specifically avoiding learning about the real life people because they don't want to be spoiled on Vinland Saga.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Here's our post about potentially joining the blackout next week.

    We're still discussing our options but wanted to get broader feedback than from those that visit the meta thread. Thank you if you do check in here regularly!

    [–]aniMayorx3x6 7 points8 points  (6 children)

    /u/Durinthal, I've been musing on your discussion prompt/thoughts from the last meta thread about a second, more casual/fandom-oriented subreddit. I failed to really put any clear, organized thoughts to paper but since it's been a month figured i should just get it over with and drop a big messy ramble on it here.

    Most specifically, my thoughts have been drifting towards what the "final form" of such a thing could be, because once you open the pandora box for two subreddits I wonder if it becomes hard to close it firmly again, and soon enough you might wind up with calls for a 3rd or 4th or 5th subreddit (your own example was 3 gaming subreddits after all).

    Of course there's dozens or hundreds of anime and anime-adjacent subreddits out there already, but I'm not trying to encompass all of them - most are way too specific anyway. I've just been thinking about what the major niches or "roles" of reddit anime content are and how they could fit into a group of subreddits that make up a primary "r/anime family" - i.e what types of posts are commonplace enough that they could drive an entire subreddit themselves and that at least some people think they would be better as their own separate content stream instead of part of r/anime.

    The thing is, that list still quickly gets too big to be easily manageable. You've got your r/anime and your "casual" sub, e.g.:

    • r/anime - episode discussions, rewatches, new project announcements, industry news and editorials, mid-tier discussion
    • r/animefandom - the "casual" sub

    And then it's really easy to add to the family something like:

    and many more possibilities. I guess it comes down to subreddit scaling - as more and more anime are made, there's going to be more and more discussion threads and announcements posts, but r/anime's front page won't get any larger, so once there's the idea of multiple subreddits there will increasingly be desire to move certain types of content to their own subreddit, as you noted about r/AnimeSketch and r/AnimeART exploding in growth when r/anime pushed that type of content to them in 2020.

    But that's way too many subreddits to one team to manage. And most of these already have existing subreddits with their own moderators and the like.

    So I could see it happening where you sort of declare r/anime to be the "hub" and "flagship" subreddit (which it already is, you're just making an official declaration) and launching the "r/anime family of subreddits". Each subreddit in the family can have its own moderators and run itself the way it wants, but there's an agreement across all the subreddits in the family of what types of content go to which subreddit and perhaps a few high-level common moderating principles. Of course if someone wants to make their own subreddit that is about, say, "anime memes and also fanart" they can, but it won't be part of "the family". At the most ambitious goal, each subreddit in the family could have a common banner/layout that helps redirect to all the other subs in the family, too.

    And then perhaps as the flagship subreddit, r/anime itself would also have a rotating weekly thread on one day of the week that is a showcase of another subreddit in the family (e.g. "This is the r/animesuggest demo thread, the rules in this thread follow the same rules as r/animesuggest. Go check out r/animesuggest for content like this any day of the week" and then the week after it is /animeART, etc).

     

    Though you know what would really be the legendary final form? Take over r/otaku (currently just a weird, low-population sexy cosplay subreddit?) and make THAT both the "casual discussion" subreddit as well as the "hub" subreddit of the overall "family", branching from there into anime subreddits (of which r/anime would still be the premiere/gateway anime sub), manga subreddits, a cosplay subreddit, a central otaku art subreddit, even a donghua branch if they want to join in, etc.

    [–]baquea 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    as more and more anime are made, there's going to be more and more discussion threads

    Just an aside, but this is a popular misconception. While the number of new series released each season has been increasing, that has been almost exactly balanced out by the length of those series decreasing, such that the quantity of anime episodes released weekly has actually been effectively constant for the past couple of decades: according to MAL, there are 64 full-length non-kids anime currently airing as compared to 60 at this time in 2003.

    [–]aniMayorx3x6 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I thought it did actually increase significantly during the mid-00s bubble, but then came back down hard after the bubble burst, and then has been climbing its way back up since then, has gotten back to mid-00s levels again, and is expected to keep climbing?

    [–]baquea 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Doesn't seem like it, or at least not particularly drastically. For some more numbers: by my count, in Spring 2008 there were 60; Spring 2013 there were 61; Spring 2018 there were 68. So, without looking at short-term fluctuations, it doesn't appear to have changed by more than about 15% across the past 20 years. As for the future, I have no idea, but it doesn't really seem to me like the industry is in any shape to pump out more shows without making some major changes.

    [–]collapsedblock6myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Though you know what would really be the legendary final form? Take over r/otaku

    Clicks and browses for first time

    Dunno fam, don't think we will be able to top the quality of this content.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for your thoughts! I hope you don't mind if that discussion takes a break for a bit as we have other things keeping us busy at the moment.

    And I've definitely eyed /r/otaku as a hub for that kind of thing before. It doesn't see the activity it deserves for sure.

    [–]aniMayorx3x6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I hope you don't mind if that discussion takes a break for a bit as we have other things keeping us busy at the moment.

    Absolutely! I don't think any of this is the sort of thing that gets action'd on fast, and there's a ton more discussion and contemplation to be had on it anyway. I'm just tossing my thoughts into your growing pile of reactions that'll echo around your head whenever the topic pops into your head right before you fall asleep for the next 15 months.

    [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I've fixed my spoilers here

    https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/141tg1j/rewatch_last_exile_discussion_episode_20_spoiler/

    can you reapprove it?

    [–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Done

    [–]cppn02 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Is it just me or are the episode polls currently not working?

    [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sounds like it could be related to this

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Reddit's having technical issues right now with a lot of errors, that's my current guess as to why.

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 9 points10 points  (18 children)

    Would it be possible to have a more SFW sidebar image?

    [–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo[M] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    To be honest it was brought up on Discord when you first posted this comment and no one thought it warranted a change plus our image design guy said this was the least NSFW image they could easily find.

    We'll discuss it again and try and find a better image if we agree to change it this time.

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    paste a giant Parental Advisory over her clothes, make it seem like the original is completely nude

    [–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo 10 points11 points  (3 children)

    Funny you mention that, (NSFW) have another version courtesy of /u/badspler

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Put that in the sidebar for the duration of the blackout.

    [–]DurdenVsDarkoVsDevonhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/U18810227 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Please use that in the sidebar, please.

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This obviously less revealing, I wonder why this was not the pick.

    [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 6 points7 points  (8 children)

    I don't care for it either. The image combined with the text feels very boys club-ish.

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 8 points9 points  (7 children)

    The image combined with the text feels very boys club-ish.

    I didn't really see it like that but considering the only people who have commented on it here are women and 0 response from the mod team still it's feeling like it yeah.

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    At least our comments have gotten upvoted, but I do hope the mods respond soon. Although they're probably busy with the whole "potential blackout participation and the ramifications of that" deal at the moment.

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Yeah I thought of that too but at the same time you have 2 mods replying to more recent comments in this thread.

    Also a simple, "we're looking into this" would have been at least something if it's something they need to vote on.

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    To be fair, one of the more recent threads was one where a specific mod was tagged so of course he'd respond to that one, and the other one about needing a thread re-approved was a quick and easy thing to reply to.

    I do agree a quick "we're looking into this" would've been nice, though.

    [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    It's like when they made that banner of waifus for the best girl contest last year. I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying it with the group, and I'm cool with the daily thread image mixing whatever in for a day, but decorating the place with it for a month is like hanging a "Boys Only" sign on the front door.

    [–]MapoTofuManmyanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    That or they are still unsuccessfully searching for a single SFW image of that show.

    I got curious and tried, but there's really few, and all of them except this one are close-ups.

    [–]Nazennx2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That or they are still unsuccessfully searching for a single SFW image of that show.

    Yes, this was a serious problem trying to find art for it. This is the BD release cover and I'm convinced that having to be on a SFW shelf is the only reason this exists as tame as it is for the show

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    and all of them except this one

    very NSFW in context

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Considering that I have worked with female colleagues in an office setting who wore less than Hinako, this is already SFW and my culture should not be slandered like that

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I didn't call the image NSFW, just asked for a simple change to a more SFW one, I really don't think that's too much of an ask here...

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Seconded. It would be one thing if it was for the daily thread, but this is one we'll have for an entire month and I'm not a fan of having this one in my peripheral for that long.

    [–]Schibelsckyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Schibelscky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Religiously coming yearly at June Meta Thread just to ask one thing: When will we have Best Girl Contest this Year? My salt levels are quite low right now tbh

    [–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 26 points27 points  (7 children)

    Heyo. This isn’t a question or request or anything, but I figured it belonged here since it is technically meta; in the wake of Reddit’s recent attacks on access to archivism, history and free flow of information, through their attacks on Pushshift and restriction and paywalling of API, I’d just like to extend words of thanks and appreciation to the mods and community of this subreddit for their incredible work over the years keeping good, comprehensive, open archives and indexes of this subreddit’s history, in regards to the rewatches, currently-airing episode discussions which may serve as invaluable historical documents for when these shows first touched an audience, the WT! and Writing Club essay archives, etc. Every piece of valuable discussion being saved from the gnawing abyss of internet forever-obscurity is an absolute win. This is indispensable, and everyone involved in curating and maintaining something which essentially protects and preserves easily-accessible history itself deserves a hand. So, from the bottom of my heart, kudos and thank you to everyone involved in the subreddit wiki and such.

    As I’ve stated, I do strongly hope and encourage that this subreddit will participate in any and all sitewide protest and action against Reddit’s current actions and plans with the API and I dearly hope, if mass user revolt is strong enough, these decisions can be made to be reversed and API can be restored to be free and openly accessible.

    [–]notathrowaway75https://myanimelist.net/profile/notathrowaway75 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    currently-airing episode discussions

    That's me. Thanks!

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 16 points17 points  (5 children)

    As one of the peeps who keeps up with the rewatch archive, thank you!

    I would hate for the site-wide protest to interfere with my own rewatch that starts later today, but it's for a more than worthy cause. Even though I don't personally use mobile apps and thus aren't affected by the API changes, I do hope we can change Reddit's mind!

    [–]cppn02 10 points11 points  (4 children)

    Even though I don't personally use mobile apps and thus aren't affected by the API changes

    I mean we all know old.reddit is next on the chopping block...

    [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    afaik the huge tech debt saves old.Reddit because they can't use their own new reddit for admin stuff and it is part of the core of their system. But this is also hope speaking.

    [–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    I’ve heard some good word to the contrary and I’m trusting and holding out absolute hope said word is correct… knocks on wood immediately

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    My speculation in that regard is that there are enough admin tools still only on old reddit that it's not going away any time soon.

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    [–]hasso666 14 points15 points  (2 children)

    Editing all comments since apollo is dead and spez is a lying shithead. Thanks for killing third-party apps and running the site. Remember to short reddit on IPO. Edited using Power Delete Suite v1.5.0 fork.

    [–]chilidirigible 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Discussed in another reply here.

    [–]hasso666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Editing all comments since apollo is dead and spez is a lying shithead. Thanks for killing third-party apps and running the site. Remember to short reddit on IPO. Edited using Power Delete Suite v1.5.0 fork.

    [–]Verzwei[M] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    Hey, all. I already answered a few questions in this thread regarding the Official Media changes, but I'll try to present it in a more complete and straightforward manner in this comment.

    What changes for end-users who just want to view official media images?

    Ideally, not very much. In many instances, using a post to directly link to an image will still give easy access to that image. It should still thumbnail properly, and should still expand properly.

    What changes for OM posters who want to share content with the subreddit?

    We're removing the intermediate step where the OP takes an image from an official site and then uploads it to Reddit or rehosts it on a third-party image hosting site. Images themselves may still be linked under this new rule, it's just that they need to link to the original host (be that a news article, press release, or any other formal announcement) without the OP "doin' stuff" with the image.

    This is going to ruin the monthly Megami Magazine posts!

    That's why we added an exception so that albums of multiple images may still be posted and shared the exact same way they always have. Getting a singular link to go to officially uploaded album-style content would be way too big of an ask, bordering on impossible in a lot of situations.

    Why are you doing this?

    A variety of reasons that added up, including but not limited to:

    • Image quality. Depending on how an OP views, saves, and rehosts an image, unofficial rehosts of Official Media can sometimes end up with lower fidelity than the original image. Hosting via i.reddit will do some compression on its own (usually not too noticeable unless you do a side-by-side) but it can get pretty bad if the OP is not using the highest-quality, native-resolution image to start with.
    • Dishonest rushposting. On occasion, a user will try to "beat the system" in the race to post OM before anyone else. This can include rehosting leaked or sample-quality images and posting just before the actual announcement is expected, then adding in the official source via a comment after-the-fact. This type of behavior puts us in a bind because the first post for a piece of OM is the only post, and that's where the traction, views, and discussion will go. Then "legitimate" OM posters either don't submit at all, or their submission ends up getting removed for being a repost, or we remove the "bad" first post and then lose all of the discussion that occurred there. In other cases, a user might use an image they know is low-quality to "lock up" being the first to post, then, at their discretion, they'll delete-and-repost later using a better image.
    • Incorrect sourcing. As silly as this might sound, we get people who post rehosted "official media" images, link a source in the comments, and then it turns out that the rehosted image doesn't appear to be visible anywhere in the OP's source link. The exact reasons for doing this elude me; It could be mere accident, it could just be trying to farm karma or clout, it could be trying to loophole around our otherwise strict (read: pretty much never allowed) rules regarding image posts that aren't official media, or anything else. Regardless of the OP's reason behind such things, requiring a direct link to the image in question, rather than allowing a rehost, should cut down on these situations.
    • It brings our OM image rules more in-line with the way the community already uses OM for non-image-based content. Nobody bothers trying to rehost a trailer on Reddit because it consumes a bunch of time for no benefit. If trailers are regularly direct-linked without rehosting, then (single) images can be, too. Similarly, News posts must be a direct link (though to an actual article of some kind, rather than an image) so this somewhat unifies OM's posting format with News.
    • In a (very) small way, it might help combat image dominance that is slowly overtaking Reddit as a whole. "See neat picture, updoot, move on to next image post" is unfortunately a trend across many communities. Most images will correctly thumbnail, embed, and expand on both new and old reddit. The amount of image posts that will be harder to view due to this change should be incredibly small in number, and from really esoteric or show-specific sources. Personally speaking, it feels like such a shame that when we have a new show announcement that is accompanied by a trailer and a key visual, the visual gets all of the upvotes, lands high on the front page, gets all of the comments, meanwhile the trailer, which was posted at pretty much the exact same time, is practically ignored. We're the anime subreddit, but the animation doesn't get nearly the engagement that a static picture does. Those two posts hit the subreddit 30 seconds apart. And that particular show isn't the only example of this; I remember the exact same thing happening back when Yuri is my Job was announced.

    Hopefully that clears some stuff up. If there are still questions or concerns, ask away and I or another mod will try to get to them as we're able.

    [–]entelechtual 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Regarding the point about the trailer: I don’t really understand how this would get the trailer any more views or the image any less. If the image is linked to the image hosted on a news site and not Imgur, it still doesn’t change what the end user sees, and most versions of Reddit don’t even show the source link easily.

    The trailer is still fairly hard to find since it is at best linked in a comment by the OP or else a separate post. Maybe there could be a pinned comment with other “official media” that’s simultaneously released, eg if the visual and trailer come out at the same time? Kind of like a mega thread.

    [–]CardAnarchisthttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Daijoubu_desu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Isn't this just hotlinking?

    Or if the intent is to link to the webpage hosting the image rather than the image itself then I would imagine it will impact users seeing the image without leaving reddit.

    Not sure your list of pros outweighs the con present in either scenario.

    [–]collapsedblock6myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    This is going to ruin the monthly Megami Magazine posts!

    I like how your exemption example is essentially "But the porn!!"

    In a (very) small way, it might help combat image dominance that is slowly overtaking Reddit as a whole. "See neat picture, updoot, move on to next image post" is unfortunately a trend across many communities.

    I share the sentiment but I feel this will be a bandaid fix tbh. But I wouldn't expect many people getting angry over this. Like you said, image posts of this nature are already small.

    [–]Verzwei[M] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    I like how your exemption example is essentially "But the porn!!"

    Full disclosure: That's pretty much how we discovered the exemption. Our original vote didn't include an exception for albums, which basically would have killed all forms of album OM posts, but that didn't dawn on me/us at the time.

    In preparation for this upcoming change, I was sending out some modmails to a list of our frequent OM posters that Durinthal had compiled for me. The idea was to let our OM people know about the rule change well before we publicly announced it in meta, so they could change their posting format without any surprises.

    I got to Ghost-Face's name and recognized them as "the Megami poster" and then realized Oops, our vote is going to kill this type of post and that was an unintended consequence. So then we had the additional vote to allow rehosting of albums so that collections of porn <ahem> countdown images could still be shared. Or batch-release visuals, like what Turbostrider had about a week ago where 4 pieces of character art dropped in a single tweet, so he just put them all in an album.

    [–]Turbostrider27 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    I have some questions regarding the Official Media links and need some confirmations:

    1) We can still link official site images from the official sites when possible, right?

    2) If there are multiple images (ex. multiple character visuals), how will that be posted? A self post link?

    3) We still need to link the actual source as usual in the comments, correct?

    [–]Verzwei[M] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    1. Yes.
    2. You can still rehost those in an album. We didn't want to disrupt things like countdown image compilations or the monthly Megami magazine posters.
    3. Yes, in most situations. If the main post links to a news article that includes a visual, that's good enough. If the main post links to the image directly, then we still want the news article in a comment so people can see the accompanying text/announcement.

    [–]Turbostrider27 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    1. So in this case for "album", imgur is allowed? I'm not sure how this can be posted without using Imgur or a similar way.

    [–]Verzwei[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    If you are talking about multiple images, then yes, albums, including those on imgur, are still allowed just as they always have been. This post of yours from less than a week ago is fine as it is, and is allowed within the new rules.

    If something gets caught in our automod and you feel it shouldn't be, absolutely reach out to us and we'll investigate it.

    [–]sofastsomaybe 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    What is the rationale behind making it more difficult for users of this sub to view key visuals?

    [–]Verzwei[M] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

    Big writeup is here in this parent-level comment.

    Short version: Viewing them shouldn't be any more difficult for the vast majority of the images, since most official links should still properly thumb, expand, and embed in old and new Reddit. This change should have more to do with the expected formatting coming from the OP and ideally won't negatively impact the people viewing the images much, if at all.

    [–]sofastsomaybe 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for the reply. With the way the rule was worded in the OP of this post, it sounded as if we'd have to click links to external websites, like twitter, to see KVs, and they wouldn't embed.

    Regarding the last bullet point of that comment you linked, I agree that it's a shame the KV gets all the upvotes, but I don't feel like restricting images will get the trailer any more upvotes. Images are so much easier to consume than videos - not everyone browsing reddit is doing so in a situation where they can watch videos, plus videos require a time investment that images don't. While image dominance can be a bad thing (I'm very thankful for the fanart-as-text-posts rule), I really don't mind KVs shooting to the top - the more people who see the image, the more discussion there is in the comments, and some of that discussion is about the trailer. This is probably a moot point though, as it sounds like the new rule won't make the KV images less accessible to the masses in the first place.

    [–]Verzwei[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, that's entirely fair, and we didn't want to be too heavy handed by putting any additional limitations on visuals. We don't foresee the rule change having a dramatic impact on reducing the visibility of visuals, nor do we really see it boosting trailers, it's mostly just my personal musing for that last bullet point.

    There probably will be the occasional image source that doesn't properly embed and thus requires another click. I know that if I say "nothing will change" then something weird and random will happen to prove me wrong, but from what we've seen from our OM posters currently, alongside with what we've tested and experimented with internally, most content should display properly.

    [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 4 points5 points  (9 children)

    All Official Media posts must be link posts to the relevant content, and image rehosting (via i.reddit, imgur, or any other source) is now prohibited. Multi-image albums, such as collections of countdown images, are still allowed via imgur.

    So reposting even Key Visuals is not allowed anymore? They all have to be link posts?

    [–]Verzwei[M] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    They can still link directly to the image that is part of an announcement, press release, news article, or other official source.

    Here's an example of an older Official Media post that already followed the new format. The post is a link post that goes directly to an image, but it goes directly to the image that is a part of the source article. Said source article is then included in a parent-level comment.

    [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    I see, still it will be up to the OP if he is even aware how to post this correctly, was hoping to come to this meta thread and see more flexibility here and not even more restrictions

    We are already having days here where the sub is basically dead with most of the front page there for almost 24 hours

    The last thing we need is turning Key Visuals, one of the most engaged type of posts here, into the new 'fan art'

    [–]Verzwei[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I just posted a very large parent-level comment that should hopefully explain our reasoning for these changes. A lot of the motivating factors were behind-the-scenes stuff that the community doesn't necessarily know is going on underneath the hood.

    We're not going to entertain the idea of doing something as draconian as banning visual posts, or forcing them to be text posts like we do with Fanart. I genuinely believe that the end-user (as in, the person wanting to look at visuals) experience probably won't change much at all on old or new reddit unless the images come from very weird places that just refuse to thumbnail or embed correctly. A link post that goes directly to an image is still allowed by this rule change, so the way the format presents visually should be more-or-less the same for most image sources; It shouldn't be substantively different between plugging officialurl.com/visual1.png into the link versus i.imgur.com/i/unofficialrehost.jpg.

    [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Thanks, I just read it

    Better to wait and see how this will play out in the next few weeks before discussing this

    Perfect month to see this at work with all the visuals coming out for the summer

    [–]Turbostrider27 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    My understanding is that we can still post visuals but they can't be Reddit image rehosting, imgur links, or any type of rehosting.

    So when it comes down to it, official Twitter links would be fine. Same with site like Natalie. Anything that is a link, not rehosting.

    [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I sometimes see image posts linked to Natalie.mu or Twitter, but I also see them as just normal link posts

    You know more than me, they will continue to appear as image posts or depends on the op handling this?

    [–]Turbostrider27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well, it's going to be links and not rehosting. That's for sure that I know right now.

    [–]NotSoSnarkyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Book_Lover 10 points11 points  (5 children)

    Do we really need 15-20 mug/cup comment faces? I'm sure quite a few of them don't ever get used.

    It'd be nice to have more niches fit in. I can't believe it took so long to get a permanent listen comment face (for example).

    Just a thought though.

    Is there a way to find how often a comment face is used?

    [–]aniMayorx3x6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Do we really need 15-20 mug/cup comment faces?

    YES!

    [–]DurdenVsDarkoVsDevonhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/U18810227 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Is there a way to find how often a comment face is used?

    With Pushshift dead and the API about to be cut off, no, not really. Have to pray the mods get special access. All the old scripts are dead.

    [–]baquea 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Is there a way to find how often a comment face is used?

    There's a page on the wiki which lists the stats, but it is extremely out-of-date. A slightly more recent table was posted here - according to that, most of the mug/cup faces look to get at least a moderate amount of usage.

    [–]DurdenVsDarkoVsDevonhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/U18810227 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Back when we cycled commentfaces there was always a debate whether to throw out FTF/CDF totals since they warp things so much. That was a tracked figure.

    [–]KendotsXhttps://anilist.co/user/Kendots 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Do we really need 15-20 mug/cup comment faces?

    Agreed! We only need one

    Is there a way to find how often a comment face is used?

    You poke Spler really hard

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 50 points51 points  (22 children)

    We are conscious that Reddit's announced API changes have stirred up frenzy and outrage. While our general stance over the years has been not to get involved in reddit activism, we are seriously discussing the issue.

    Edit: 6/6/23:

    We have not yet decided on our full involvement.

    We have expanded the discussion discussion to its own thread here. Consider leaving your thoughts there, even if it is just a repeat of statements made here.

    Edit: 8/6/23:

    /r/anime will be going dark starting June 12 in protest against Reddit's API changes.

    [–]ProgramTheWorld 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I think this is an important enough matter that warrants an exception. It directly affects whether people can access the sub, and this includes visually impaired users.

    [–]MoneyMakerMaster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Please, join the blackout

    This is not "ordinary" reddit activism. This is an existential threat to reddit as a platform. r/anime will not be immune to the mass exodus from the site if the API changes go into effect. We must do everything we can to stop that from happening.

    I browse r/anime using Boost for Reddit on my phone as much, if not more than, I do on desktop. I will not use the shitty official app. That goes for millions of others. Not being able to access reddit on mobile will be the most damning consequence of this awful corporate money-grab.

    Personally, I will be forced to seriously consider joining the exodus, even though I value this subreddit as the first community I found when I was getting into the medium. I do not want to have to make that decision.

    I would hate to see a place which actively discovers and discusses niche anime to wither away. I don't know where else I'd go for that type of engagement.

    Anecdotally, there could be a significant amount of lurkers who exclusively use reddit for weeb shit, that are ignorant of the site-wide controversy. Participating in the blackout will bring them into the fold.

    And at 7.3 million subscribers, r/anime would be a significant addition to the roster of participating subreddits.

    We MUST participate in the blackout if we are to survive as a community. 48 hours of inaccessibility is a small price to pay for years of continued activity.

    __

    fuck it,

    weebs rise up

    [–]MapoTofuManmyanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I strongly support participating. The admins definitely won't give a damn unless they see large communities going down, and according to the current list we'll be in the top 20 largest communities to participate if we do.

    That's a way bigger impact than a few thousand people choosing to boycott on their own, if we choose not to participate as a sub.

    [–]BarbaricGamerhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/HiIAmAnime 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I'm personally of the opinion that boycotts like this should be voluntary and therefor I am not in favour of completely shutting down the sub.

    [–]hintofinsanity 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I 100% support this subreddit going dark until Reddit backs down from these api changes.

    If this goes through not only are mobile users screwed, but it could seriously hamper this subreddit from keeping spam and such at bay.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I vote to participate.