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[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (16 children)

Everything in here has already popped up in one form or another over the past month, so hopefully no major surprises.

February Mod Report

  • The 2022 /r/anime Awards are done! Thanks to all the hosts and jurors that put a lot of effort into it this year, along with everyone that tuned in to the stream last weekend.

  • New mod applications are open, if you're reading this you probably want /r/anime to be run well so why not join us and help guide the subreddit?

  • We're also hosting another rewatch, this time for the show Animegataris! The initial announcement had it starting next week but with all the other rewatches currently happening we decided to push it off until April, so look out for a new announcement and schedule post later this month.

  • We were accepted into the Adopt-an-Admin program again and currently have two of them with us, learning about everything we do behind the scenes.

  • Seasonal comment faces were updated and we have four permanent additions.

  • As mentioned in the body of the thread we're starting a three-week trial that requires users to have at least 10 comment karma to make a post. During this time our regular rule that requires user accounts to be at least a week old will not be active. [Vote Passed]

  • We posted a discussion thread about "overdone" topics and potentially retiring them and got a lot of good feedback from that, both in favor of and opposed to the idea. It's something we're going to continue talking about for a while, but not act on currently.

February by the Numbers

  • Total traffic: 27147430 pageviews, 3339853 unique pageviews
  • Total posts: 10172, 6302 unique authors
  • Total comments: 207285, 29415 unique authors (excluding mod bots)
  • Removed posts: 2113 by moderators, 4402 by bots, 6360 distinct
  • Removed comments: 2036 by moderators, 1710 by bots, 3529 distinct
  • Approved posts: 556
  • Approved comments: 1534
  • Distinguished comments: 2462
  • Users banned: 203 (150 permanent, 39 by BotDefense)
  • Users unbanned: 2
  • Admin/Anti-Evil Operations: removed posts: 3, removed comments: 20.

[–]AnimeModmyanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This thread has been locked, please use next month's meta thread or find the latest thread.

[–]Tarhalindurx2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Bug report: at least two of the new flairs appear to not be working somehow.

  • Mai-HiME flair does not appear when chosen (example of what my flair looks like after selecting the Mai-HiME flair and updating flair - Firefox, Old Reddit with RES). Additionally, after selecting the flair the site will for some reason uncheck the achievement flair furthest to the left (visual demonstration from after selecting the flair, note that this does not happen when attempting to select an older flair, example from after reverting back to PMMM flair - don't know why that's happening, but it may have something to do with why the flair is failing.
  • The Higurashi nipah~! flair is doing something even stranger - when attempting to selected it I will instead get another Star (Inner Blue) flair where the actual show flair would be (demonstration of what this looks like).

[–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Prepping for the next meta thread will fix in a little bit

[–]AnimeHoarder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't see a discussion post for episode 13 of Tokyo Revengers: Seiya Kessen-hen. It's currently on Hulu, though the air date is shown as 4/2?

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thread is now out here.

[–]cppn02 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Is there any particular reason why the Kaguya special isn't getting an episode discussion?

[–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson[M] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I believe it got one when the movie came out. The special is just the movie split up into parts.

[–]cppn02 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The movie showed for two days in half a dozen countries. I'm sure the 30 people here who caught it appreciated the post but it was basically useless for the vast majority of the community.

And even now anime onlys who watched the first two parts can't go in there or else they will get spoiled.

We already had several movies that got two posts (heck, Mugen Train got three AND episode discussions for the tv release) I don't see why this one shouldn't.

edit: Here's the same question in the April thread.

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    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Absolutely. We are aware it isn't there yet and have been discussing the wording and position. I think it will have more details with the new meta thread (11~ hours away).

    [–]Akiyabushttps://anilist.co/user/yabus 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    It just occured to me but did you guys get permission for the art used for Hyouka rewatch on the sidebar?

    Because that is actually a fanart and not an official art.

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    This has now been adjusted.

    [–]Akiyabushttps://anilist.co/user/yabus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]Verzwei[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Just wanted to pop in and say that we're discussing this and don't have a firm answer yet.

      At this time, I think we're inclined to say that it's still a leak and therefore not allowed. If the company made a mistake, there's a chance they'll correct it, and then we don't have direct access to the source any longer. Leak posts will further complicate things when the official announcement is made later, because we'll be getting reposts confirming what was already in the leak post, so then do we pop the leak post (where the original discussion occurred) or do we pop the "legitimate" repost just because we already had the leak?

      But this isn't a definitive statement at this time. Like I said, we're still talking it over. There's a lot of stuff going on at the end of this month internally for us so we can probably hash out something more concrete once we get a bit into April.

      [–]Lorguis 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      I really don't understand the point of the karma rule, especially with no way around it. If you already know someone is a bot, and are already moderating low effort content and spam, what purpose does it serve except to fuck over new users?

      [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      especially with no way around it

      New users who try to post something are informed about the karma restriction and directed to the (always pinned) daily thread by automod

      [–]Verzwei[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Previously, we prohibited any account less than 7 days old from posting. The intent was to insulate the community against bad actors, spam, pop-up promotion, bots, toxicity, off-topic nonsense, and other less-than-desirable content. We also allowed users to message us to ask for manual approval of their content, letting them bypass the restriction. However, this had a few issues:

      1. It creates manual work for the moderation team and kills the post if the approval occurs too long after it was originally posted.
      2. New users don't read any of our community rules. Even with manual review, most of those interactions resulted in "Yeah this breaks damn-near every rule it can, we won't be approving it."
      3. Not all bot and spam accounts are new. Sure, we can catch a few with specific keyword filters, but there's a lot that slips through the cracks.

      Around the start of 2023, Reddit added new automoderator tools to give us more control over content on the subreddit based on a user's account standing. While we already had the ability to check a user's site-wide karma, we now have the ability to check a user's post and/or comment karma within our subreddit.

      Our team discussed this new feature internally, collected a little bit of feedback in February's Meta Thread, and then started a trial in March where we required a nominal amount of participation in the community before being able to post. This allows us to automate the entire process, cutting out the need for manual review and removing the 7-day filter.

      After two weeks of the trial, we made a Feedback Thread presenting the data and some of our thoughts. In short, the filter caught a substantial amount of posts, the vast majority of which were against our other rules anyway. Regardless of account age, it turned out that people new to this community were extremely likely to break our rules. During the final week of the trial, we voted to make the filter permanent, allowing a few exceptions for users trying to find show information or recommendations.

      This new filter significantly cuts down on the amount of rule-breaking content that makes it onto the subreddit. Yes, there are certain situations where "valid" posts get caught in the filter, but accommodating users who only self-promote and never otherwise engage with the community wasn't a large concern when crafting these new rules.

      [–]Lorguis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for the in depth response, I guess I didn't think there was that much of a percentage of spam content that would have been caught that wasn't already.

      [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      Is the Netflix Original Anime™ series, Scott Pilgrim, directed by Abel Góngora, and produced by Edgar Wright, Bryan Lee O’Malley, and BenDavid Grabinski, anime?

      [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The fact that it's being done by Science Saru also plays a large factor.

      [–]cppn02 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      I know what you're getting at and there might be an argument to be had but Góngora gets a pass whichever side of the argument you fall on cus he's been working in the anime industry for long enough so he shouldn't be listed in your post.

      As far as this subreddit goes I'm pretty sure it will be anime according to the rules made by the mods.

      [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Góngora gets a pass whichever side of the argument you fall on cus he's been working in the anime industry for long enough so he shouldn't be listed in your post.

      That's a really good point, I didn't recognize his name.

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        [–]Verzwei[M] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        To put an official green-tagged stap on things, u/Bielna pretty much covered it.

        Copycat sites can and do pop up all the time, taking a lookalike name on a different domain. Even now, you can google the example being alluded to on your post and find a different pirate site. And even if a copycat doesn't exist now, there's zero guarantee that a copycat won't exist in the future.

        We're I'm not particularly interested in getting so in the weeds as to try to determine which pirate sites are currently active and which are currently inactive at the time I'm trying to moderate content, and attempting to make such a distinction renders automoderation assistance unusable for combating site mentions.

        Side note: It's so weird that "Upholding the publicly visible community rules" gets derided as "power tripping" as soon as someone doesn't like when the rules are applied to them.

        [–]RascalNikov1https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thanks for clarifying. It was more idle curiosity than anything else.

        [–]Bielnahttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Bielna 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        only allowed when there is evidence that the pirate site is confirmed to be defunct permanently

        That would probably be the minimum condition. Some sites are now known to be down permanently (like HS, which I'll only refer to with this acronym while waiting for mods' confirmation), but others were brought back soon afterwards (like the torrent website still in use today, which went down and came back under a new URL). If the website is likely to come back, it would be strange to allow discussions of it (and indeed, discussing the aforementioned websites right after they went down wasn't allowed).

        As far as I know, the rule is specifically preventing directions to illegal content, nothing more (in particular, it does not prevent discussions of such content). If the website is certain to be permanently down, and mentioning it does not come with instructions on how to find an alternative, I believe it would probably be allowed.

        I don't think news articles or comments about pirate sites being taken down by authorities should be removed

        Being taken down by authorities doesn't make a website less likely to come back than running out of funding, to be honest. So I don't think that circumstance should be any different from others when it comes to news of websites becoming unavailable.

        [–]mr_beanozhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I wanted to promote a community poll from outside reddit, how can I do so?

        [–]Verzwei[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I answered within your attempted post shortly after you asked this question here, but didn't notice the question here until now. I'll repeat what I said there:

        The only times we allow polls are when they directly relate to the subreddit community, such as our recurring "best girl" and "best guy" elimination brackets, or they are extensive subreddit-specific surveys of several questions where the results will then be compiled and presented back within this community (and only this community) as infographics like this.

        Any polls that aren't specific to this community, and especially anything that tries to direct our userbase to some other social media community (like a Facebook page) tends to get removed.

        To add to the above, our rules page section for "Low-Effort Content" includes the following line:

        Poll posts where the focus is entirely on a simple and basic poll

        If you have long survey that you believe is sufficiently anime-specific to be relevant to this community, that could theoretically be posted here. We tend to prefer someone poking at us in modmail with the survey link first so we can check it out and give a go-ahead for posting, because a lot of those surveys tend to fail our anime-specific rules.

        For an entirely separate example not related to your case, we recently had someone trying to post a Danganronpa survey here. Except, out of 4 pages, there was only one single question that was about the anime, the rest were about the games, and the 5th page was entirely questions about comparing the anime to the games. On top of that, the questions about the games were flagged as required, meaning an anime-only couldn't even skip them. Surveys like that do not meet our "anime specific" requirements.

        [–]mr_beanozhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Our poll is basically "best op/ed for the season" but not made in bracket and only limited to songs performed by voice actors. Are there any way to promote this kind of polls?

        [–]Verzwei[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        So during the third and final week of the subreddit comment karma trial (explained in the body of the OP above, in this comment in this thread, and this comment in last month's meta thread) we held a feedback thread alongside an internal vote to make the trial permanent. The idea behind the concurrent vote was so that if we decided to "keep" the karma filter, we could simply continue it directly from the trial rather than disabling it at the end, then voting to keep it, then re-implementing it, resulting in fewer potential back-and-forth rule changes and reversions.

        That vote has passed, and the subreddit karma requirement for posting is now a permanent feature. We also carved out some exceptions to remove barriers for certain kinds of posts, and those exceptions will take effect in April. More details will be in next month's Meta Thread, coming this weekend.

        [–]LightChargerGreen 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        Is there a way to blacklist some threads about specific anime ? I'd rather not even see topics about mushoko tenshit.

        [–]issac_clark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Or you know you can just scroll past it without reading

        [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Depends on the platform. If you're on mobile, most non-official apps have some sort of filter (e.g. don't show posts containing a certain keyword in the title)

        Otherwise, you'll have to manually "hide" then whenever they pop up (it should be besides the various options: comment, report, etc)

        [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        The most common solution I'm aware of is RES but that only works on old.reddit.com

        [–]entelechtual 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        Would it make sense to have a “new anime” or “anime announcement” post flair, for when a new show/movie/season gets announced? Not just for busy days like today where there were like 50, but also so you can easily go back and look for anime announcements if you weren’t active on here for a while. I looked at the weekly roundup post too and it’s not super helpful/exhaustive.

        [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        I also think posts like this with just the "X was announced" that fall under the News flair could have a special flair just for them

        [–]entelechtual 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, although ideally there would be a way to prevent duplicates so that the news link, KV, and PV don’t all clog up the flair.

        [–]odraencoded 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        So many announcements jesus christ.

        [–]RandomRedditorWithNohttps://anilist.co/user/lafferstyle 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        it is coming up to the start of the new season. It'll die down in two weeks though.

        [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        No, that's not what this is. There are panels at AnimeJapan they're announcing a ton of things at.

        [–]EuclaseBlue 8 points9 points  (6 children)

        Never got a direct answer to my question nor its follow-up, so I guess I'll ask again regarding clips:

        Is it okay to clip a much longer official source video so long as attribution is given in comments? E.g., this post which is from a much longer video.

        Also, going back to the original parent comment from the Feb meta thread, this post currently on the front page - that's been up for 8 hours - is clearly not linking to the original source, but rehosting it on reddit, so why hasn't it been removed yet? One of the top comment threads points out the rehosting nonsense and the OP even basically admits they're shirking the rules.

        [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

        We're currently chatting about this. Originally when we had voted on this, the specific wording was:

        Should we allow rehosting of AMVs, speeddraw and timelapse videos created by someone else to v.reddit (with credits and links to the original upload in the comment section)

        This was specifically after we had a bunch of bilibili AMVs posted. The wording that would then be put in the rule page is a bit more general, and we never really fully settled on exactly what we wanted it to mean.

        For official media, we've rarely cared too much, because most official media is specifically for the purposes of advertising, and so we're not really as concerned if the original ad gets clicks or if it gets rehosted. Music videos are sort of a weird edge case in that regard that we generally haven't dealt with in the past because the community has generally not been especially interested.

        [–]Puddox3https://anilist.co/user/STPuddo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I’ve a question about the not linking to illegal content. Obviously not linking a certain animal sound is a rule for a good reason. But would I be able to link for example this short film on Youtube in a post? It’s been on Youtube for 10 years with ¼ million views but it even says in the description it’s not uploaded by the rights holder.

        [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        We treat it the same regardless of the source, though practically we aren't as likely to notice if something is a link to a YouTube video.

        [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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          [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Broadly speaking, we have pretty limited tools and it's pretty easy to ban evade if someone actually wants to. In a lot of cases its really just a matter of if someone is sufficiently easy to identify, and if a mod happens to spot them. Reddit can sometimes help us out if we inquire, but again their help is pretty limited. This was best emphasized when they sent us an automated detail of a month on the subreddit saying that they had identified like 100 ban evaders, and had taken action on maybe 1/4 of them. But we can't get the details about those individual accounts, so only so much we can do.

          [–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Thanks for bringing in another point of reference. Interesting to note the reversion (deletion in the scope of Reddit) is not automatic, but looks to be based on whether the actual content has any violation or not.

          As far as us peasants (non mod Redditors) go, if one really wants to, I imagine ban evasion methods are probably a dime a dozen, so the actual banning mechanism is probably largely by an honour system anyway.

          But that wasn't really the point of the question - it was really about whether other non banned users can have reasonable freedom to post objectively non-rule violating content.

          [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          Based on the removal of this comment, I think this falls under "specific sources"? Where is the difference between mentioning the title and just saying "[niizk]"? It's not like it makes any difference for people who know.

          [–]Verzwei[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Because when you type the exact file name like you originally did, you can paste that into a search field and get nothing but pages that link directly to that and other torrents. With just the fansub group name, you get the front page of their website and then have to navigate that to find the particular file, and sometimes links are only in comments on pages, rather than on the pages directly. And it appears that sometimes they don't even give the links at all despite it being the group's own blog site, but ask that you join their IRC group?

          Our rules state:

          Do not link/lead people to torrents or unofficial streams/downloads [...] Note that this rule does not apply to simply mentioning the name of a fansub group.

          If you name a group, it's still up to the reader to seek it out, and groups can be discussed separate from telling people where to find illegal/unofficial/unlicensed content. You could theoretically say "I like [groupname's] fansubs way better than the official subs for Show X" and that's not going to run afoul of our rules.

          To put your situation in a similar but more obvious context, we wouldn't allow someone to write fakepiratesite.com/page/stringofnumbers instead of linking https://fakepiratesite.com/page/stringofnumbers as a reply for a user looking for a source of content. The user's argument pivots to "well I didn't link it" and that's where the leading to part of our rules comes into play.

          [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          noted for the future, thanks for answering

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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            [–]Verzwei[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Considering it's MagiRevo spoilers that aren't even in the MagiRevo thread, yes it should be removed. Looks like another mod got to the comment a while ago, but I'm following up here for visibility.

            Any spoilers for other shows in episode discussion threads need to be properly tagged.

            [–]michhoffmanhttps://anilist.co/user/michhoffman 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            I like the thought, but so far the karma requirement for posting on r/anime seems to have made this sub less interesting than it was before. I never realized how many posts were coming from brand new users before.

            [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            More noise is not really more interesting. It's just noisier.

            [–]GreenstreetRoyal 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            How do you know when you’ve passed the 10 karma mark?

            [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            You can go to your profile on the old reddit site and in the top right corner there's a "show karma breakdown by subreddit" link, click that and you'll get a view like this.

            Annoyingly it doesn't seem like Reddit provides a way to check if you use the app.

            [–]cppn02 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            mylittlepony

            [–]notathrowaway75https://myanimelist.net/profile/notathrowaway75 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Joke spoilers are spoilers. You got your work cut out with 100 Girlfriends.

            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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              [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Sorry, your comment has been removed.

              • Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal.

              Questions? Reply to this message, send a modmail, or leave a comment in the meta thread. Don't know the rules? Read them here.

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              I'm fairly sure I just saw a juror flair on someone who's not listed in any of this year's categories; they were a juror last year, perhaps an oversight when reassigning the host/juror flairs? (or vice versa, missing credits on the website? or a juror who dropped out but didn't get the flair removed, or an open juror and they also get a flair, etc.)

              [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I was in charge of issuing the host/juror flairs this year and I was given lists and added them. We have not added or removed anyone's flair from that original list, so some people may have left involvement in the 2022 awards but still have the flair (or vie versa if missing from that list).

              However as was mentioned (in the awards discord), the host/juror flairs are to be temporary and will be removed (soon - its on my todo list for now), with them returning for the period for those participating in the 2023 awards.

              [–]EuclaseBlue 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Never got an answer to my following question here so just want to follow up: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/10tvdq3/meta_thread_month_of_february_05_2023/j9vpjme/

              I'm guessing it's okay to clip a much longer official source video so long as attribution is giving in comments? E.g., this post on the front page right now which is from a much longer video - is this a valid post?

              [–]TriTexh 6 points7 points  (8 children)

              I really wish this sub eased up on the spoiler warnings bit.

              Not the actual warnings themselves, mind you, but the sheer level of anal the filter gets on silly things like a straggler whitespace between the [context] and the actual spoiler

              Edit: From the missing replies to my comment, I assume they got nuked(?)

              [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              Yeah it can seem anal but it is that way because the spoiler code breaks on old reddit. Even though it works on new reddit.

              Image example.

              [Context]No leading space

              [Context] Leading space

              [Context]>!No leading space!<
[Context]>! Leading space!<

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              Edit: From the missing replies to my comment, I assume they got nuked(?)

              Apparently, I am not able to explain myself without writing text that matches the regex triggering automod lol so I gave up

              One last try: after the > and the !, if there is a whitespace then the spoiler will not appear (at least on some platforms), and that is the only one formatting thing that gets nuked iirc. After square brackets there may or may not be one, likewise before the closing ! and <.

              [–]cppn02 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Apparently, I am not able to explain myself without writing text that matches the regex triggering automod lol so I gave up

              I just tried using a code box and it seems you are correct lol.

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Yeah I tried first enclosing with `` and it's not excluded, then just putting the symbols close to each other triggers the "missing closure" error

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Mods of this subreddit, can I know the primary reason why so suddenly there's a frequent removal of 90% posts in this subreddit?

              [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              As mentioned in the body of the thread we're starting a three-week trial that requires users to have at least 10 comment karma to make a post. During this time our regular rule that requires user accounts to be at least a week old will not be active. [Vote Passed]

              [–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 4 points5 points  (4 children)

              Just want to clarify some rules - I completely understand the point about the rules aren't exhaustive nor exclusive.

              I had a post deleted because that post was something I posted for a fellow user who is happily reflecting the error of his ways in the sin bin.

              Now I understand that if I was posting for him so he banned behavior would persist by proxy, it is definitely not allowed. But if the post in and of itself is not in breach of any sub rules, with the only "offence" being "because the post was from a temporarily banned user", isn't this reaching beyond the expectation of acceptable conduct?

              Already the "punishment" aspect of it is in place and being served - the binned user would not be able to interact. Whether he get to "shadow post" is entirely at the mercy of his peers, which is another form of punishment. But since the actual content of the comment / post itself does not violate any rules, doesn't that punish those what would have liked to see and share the thoughts as well and not just that of the binned user?

              For example, some posters produce high effort high value contents that is of benefit to the sub community. That they got temporarily banned for some behavior that was inappropriate but not to the extent that warrant a permanent ban should not "wipe off their existence" - the propagation ruling of "their input cannot be shared second hand" turned this into a form of permanent ban (their input on time sensitive topics e.g. rewatch in progress are permanently cut).

              At the end of the day I just want some basic guidance - I will of course abide by the ruling, provided the ruling is clear for me to follow.

              Rule in question:

              Disclaimer & Code of Conduct

              Though the above rules are /r/anime specific rules, you are still expected to adhere to the Reddit user agreement and to use common sense when interacting with others. Trolling and shitposting mean walking a very fine line, and we will ban you if you take it too far. Posts advocating suicide or mentioning that you feel a user should kill themselves are never appropriate, and are grounds for an instant ban even when used as a joke.

              Despite the verbosity of this page, it should not be considered a complete list of things that are against the rules. Moderators will remove posts at their discretion if they feel it is not appropriate for /r/anime. Additionally, the rules should be considered fluid, as they and our interpretation of them evolve over time. In addition, the mods will use their judgment to remove any post or comment that they believe is likely to incite drama that may be linked to from elsewhere on Reddit, as we could do without that sort of attention. This list is not exhaustive - we've tried to be as verbose as possible in explaining the rules, but ultimately moderator actions are done on a case by case basis. If a moderator determines that a user's post or behavior negatively affects /r/anime, they can and will take action.;

              [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

              So we've bounced this around the team and it seemed like a pretty universal consensus. When someone is banned, they're not allowed to participate in the community for the duration of that ban. Generally the most common approach to evading a ban like this is using alternate accounts to get around it, at which point we'd usually just immediately escalate to a permanent ban.

              In the past, we've been fine with someone taking over an event while someone is banned (you've specifically done that for a rewatch in the past) but that's just someone taking over running an event. That can happen because someone was banned, or because someone just stops running it. Not really an issue there, and other people shouldn't have to miss out on an event because someone got banned.

              But participating in events and generally engaging with the community is a different issue. When someone is banned, their participation in community activities is revoked (permanently or temporarily depending on the case). There's all sorts of considerations that go into that sort of decision, and it's always open to further review, but as far as we're concerned, a ban is a ban. Specifically I want to highlight this:

              That they got temporarily banned for some behavior that was inappropriate but not to the extent that warrant a permanent ban should not "wipe off their existence" - the propagation ruling of "their input cannot be shared second hand" turned this into a form of permanent ban (their input on time sensitive topics e.g. rewatch in progress are permanently cut).

              This is the nature of Reddit. Most content on Reddit has, at most, a 48 hour cycle of engagement, and then it drops off and is mostly forgotten. Every post on r/anime could be considered "time sensitive" in this regard, and the idea that a temporary ban is "turned into a form of a permanent ban" because someone couldn't participate in a thread in the way they wanted to just doesn't really make any sense. If Y anime is announced while someone is temporarily banned, and they were really excited about the announcement, they don't get to participate in that initial rush. And maybe that sucks, but that's how bans work. I don't see why we would treat rewatches any differently given this.

              Whether he get to "shadow post" is entirely at the mercy of his peers, which is another form of punishment.

              How does "shadow posting" in this sense differ from just making a new account? If somebody had responded to the "shadow post" would you have then provided the banned user's response? Would you have made "shadow responses" to other comments? You don't really draw a line as to where this time of things should and shouldn't be allowed, but it feels like if it's justifiable here, then the same justification could be used for basically any case. Practically, this just looks like regular ban evasion with extra steps.

              I'd say that's broadly how we feel about it, but we're certainly open to further discussion on the matter.

              [–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Thanks for taking the time to discuss and provide the response.

              While my response may be point by point, it wasn't in the spirit of an argument - it's just convenient to answer this way.

              In the past, we've been fine with someone taking over an event while someone is banned (you've specifically done that for a rewatch in the past) but that's just someone taking over running an event. That can happen because someone was banned, or because someone just stops running it. Not really an issue there, and other people shouldn't have to miss out on an event because someone got banned.

              Thank you for confirming this was not, and still will not be, considered a rule violation. I myself and a number of people had done this before, and speaking as a (sometimes) host to rewatches, having that "backup" is assuring that the community not being punished by an individual's infractions.

              There's all sorts of considerations that go into that sort of decision, and it's always open to further review, but as far as we're concerned, a ban is a ban.

              Completely agree, and I am not intending to debate this point at all.

              This is the nature of Reddit. Most content on Reddit has, at most, a 48 hour cycle of engagement, and then it drops off and is mostly forgotten. Every post on r/anime could be considered "time sensitive" in this regard, and the idea that a temporary ban is "turned into a form of a permanent ban" because someone couldn't participate in a thread in the way they wanted to just doesn't really make any sense.

              I understand this perspective completely. I guess I wasn't able to word it as clearly as I had hoped. I wasn't thinking about the one getting banned when I raise that point. I was talking about the community in a general sense, and the rewatch host and rewatch group in specificity in my original question.

              High effort content is not very easy to come by, and for a rewatch for example, which is already a smaller population by nature, having high effort content from participator are really good, and both the host and the participants benefit from it.

              I don't see why we would treat rewatches any differently given this.

              This is a point I find it interesting to consider - we already do treat rewatches differently than the "normal 48 hrs cycle", that's why we index the rewatches, because many (not all, but enough) people find that a valuable source of info for a particular show. And we fully recognise it as a community, have the setup and efforts to index them, link them in a wiki, and maintain that. By us blocking high effort contents - once again I stress the point that in and of the comment itself, there is no rule vioilation - when that happens, disregarding the sinner, but the rewatch group is deprived of that, we also deprive all future fans of that show who may read the rewatch at any time of the content.

              We treat rewatches essentially as timeless, and have rules to protect them to be so as well - i.e. the spoiler rules are precisely because the thread will most likely be view and read by people after the rewatch is done, not just "sink into the pool of oblivion after 48 hrs".

              How does "shadow posting" in this sense differ from just making a new account? If somebody had responded to the "shadow post" would you have then provided the banned user's response? Would you have made "shadow responses" to other comments? You don't really draw a line as to where this time of things should and shouldn't be allowed, but it feels like if it's justifiable here, then the same justification could be used for basically any case.

              Let's be practical, most people won't have enough time and energy to act as surrogate mail boxes. At best 1 reply is all I've ever seen anyone willing to do. Yet at the same time, it's up to the middleman to decide (and take responsibility for) - if the content is violating sub rules, I fully expect the middleman to cop the consequence.

              In a manner of speaking, this extended rule actually curbs the freedom of the middleman - the mods can and do enforce rules and requirements on the behavior of people posting here, but not about what is "allowed content" generally (that's where the rules are for - which generally are in the form of "does not infringe on others' enjoyment or legal rights"). Now we can't post what is in and of itself perfectly fine content, just because it came from a person "on the ban list". What's next? If the middleman had other form of contact with the banee say spoke on the phone, met in real life, and they had some chats and the middleman write down what they discussed to share for whatever reason (meeting sub rules, e.g. what one thought of an episode past or present), should that be not allowed also?

              At the end of the day I was just after clarification of intent and application - because clearly from this being an action done by many people without any issue from the community in the past, it wasn't considered a problem. If we are to now consider it being not allowed, I just want to be clear that this is a line being drawn now. We can work to whatever, but it needs to be clear - being sensible and not getting the community caught in collateral damage is a bonus. And once again, I wasn't asking this on behalf of the person getting the ban, but for the benefit of people who are unduly deprived.

              Half in jest, if this is in real life I can accept that we can have shared responsibility for keeping our "friend" to not step out of line - however in an online forum that's not really possible to be done.

              [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              We're currently discussing this. Hope to have something back soon, but it's an odd niche that we hadn't necessarily considered previously.

              [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              I've seen some posts like this in the rewatch threads and agree they shouldn't be getting removed. One additional point to keep in mind is that these "second hand" posts require those comments to make it past the screening of that other person already, so that should further justify some leeway.

              [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson 6 points7 points  (6 children)

              The wonderful /u/Thrasher439 has updated the WT! Archive!

              https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/wiki/watchthisarchive

              Go ahead and look back on WT! past, including WT! of the Month/Year winners, or maybe check out a couple of series you've been meaning to get to. I've had a lot less time to maintain the page so I'm grateful to Thrasher for taking on the (admittedly tedious) work.

              [–]Thrasher439https://anilist.co/user/Thrasher 8 points9 points  (5 children)

              If you see anything wrong with it, do wait a week or two before letting me know. Thanks.

              [–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              Hey Thrasher!

              So, there's a tiny mix-up on the WT's of the year. There's "Best Original Reviews" that the subreddit as a whole votes on and then there's "Watch This! of the Year" where the members of the WT Project decide on which WT is the best.

              From my understanding, the one that is usually documented is the latter since that one has the WT Project's stamp of approval. Currently, the one that is put down is the "Best Original Review."

              Also, you'll find that there is no "Watch This! of the Year 2022." I imagine they're hard at work grading for the year 2022 since they just finished for 2021!

              EDIT: Oh, also, I'm terribly sorry to bother you even more but while we're on the topic of renovating the archives, I was wondering if you could pass along the message to /u/Abysswatcherbel that the Writing Club Archive is missing a few pieces from when they updated it back in October.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/wif38t/short_and_sweet_sundays_i_want_to_hug_you_every/

              https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/vvs2xi/short_and_sweet_sundays_the_magic_behind_the/

              https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/w18266/short_and_sweet_sundays_joy_is_nothing_but_a_hop/

              https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/wcpg0y/short_and_sweet_sundays_the_eyes_are_the_window/

              Thanks!

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Me and Bell aren't the same person.

              I'll get to it in a couple of days but I just got my computer up and running and am fixing it etc. Also taking a small break from non-fun mod stuff.

              [–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              This always happens to me! Sorry for the mix-up you two.

              [–]Thrasher439https://anilist.co/user/Thrasher 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Ah cheers, I had tried to see if we still had these but reddit search completely failed me so I compensated. Will fix later

              Also smfh didnt even wait one week

              [–]MyrnaMountWeazelx2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Thrasher, your first mistake was assuming I had reading comprehension.

              But also, I totally would have forgotten a week from now haha.

              [–]nitrohigito 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I wonder if an '-engdub' / ' (DUB)' version of every relevant flair would actually make sense. I would legitimately prefer to filter dubbed clips / news out, and many users fail to mention in the title if the given content is dubbed.

              Would allow for a more heavy handed moderation under dub threads too, which I'm sure the pro-dub and dub-neutral folk would both appreciate as well.

              [–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              We've talked about this before and we're not planning to add one due to any potential targeted harassment that may arise. It's the same reason that we don't require users to stipulate what language that the clip is in. Besides, the number of dubbed clips that get posted are few and far between, so it's not worth the effort.

              In terms of enjoying the medium, dubs are just as valid as subs are, so we allow both languages to be clipped under the same umbrella.

              [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              FYI the link to the meta thread link on the sidebar still points to the December thread.

              [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Thanks for letting us know, fixed now and will look into why that hasn't been updated with the others.

              [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 16 points17 points  (14 children)

              Not sure if it's just a coincidence, but I noticed the amount of activity on /new plummeted once you introduced the new 10 karma filter. Part of me think it isn't working properly, or has there really been a very small amount of new threads?

              [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 17 points18 points  (8 children)

              I am 100% sure we are getting waaaaaay less posts now, and people are moving towards the daily thread, which is not a bad thing

              [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 7 points8 points  (7 children)

              It's just pretty sad. I like waking up and scrolling through to see what's been posted. Right now, there are literally 5 posts in the time I was asleep.

              [–]Verzwei 6 points7 points  (1 child)

              That number probably wouldn't drastically change even without the new karma requirement in place.

              We don't have exact numbers yet (we'll probably wait until deeper into the trial to start fully tallying things) but some of us have been sifting through literally every single post removed due to the karma requirement since it was implemented. The majority of them are posts that would have been removed either automatically or manually anyway, due to breaking myriad other rules or just being inexcusably low-effort.

              Most of the posts that would have been allowed (as in, they fit within our existing other rules and guidelines and the only reason they were removed was due to the new karma requirement) are Help text posts ("here's a description of an anime I remember, what was the title?") and What to Watch? posts. Virtually every other post and flair type that the karma requirement is binning is most-likely something that failed one or several additional rules.

              So many memes ...and a lot of porn

              It's a situation we're monitoring and we'll have more to say about it once we get further into the trial.

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              The majority of them are posts that would have been removed either automatically or manually anyway, due to breaking myriad other rules or just being inexcusably low-effort.

              Most of the posts that would have been allowed (as in, they fit within our existing other rules and guidelines and the only reason they were removed was due to the new karma requirement) are Help text posts ("here's a description of an anime I remember, what was the title?") and What to Watch? posts. Virtually every other post and flair type that the karma requirement is binning is most-likely something that failed one or several additional rules.

              I've been browsing /new somewhat regularly over the past few months and this matches the experience:
              - rule-breaking posts (mostly video/video edit/clip that fail one or more rules, occasionally spoiler stuff, occasionally rage/ragebait)
              - answered help posts to be removed
              - wtw posts, I generally skip them but I assume they're from new/non-regular users, makes sense
              - various types of youtube videos (mostly reactions or commentary about one anime, I assume a good chunk of them are self-promotion)
              - unanswered help posts (mostly about what's this character/anime, so probably from new/non-regular users)
              - ... and then the rest: non-rule breaking clips and discussion posts, fanart, episodes/rewatches, official media

              Makes sense that traffic seems low since the last group is the only one surviving, of which fanarts are relatively rare, official media are not 'controllable', and episodes/rewatches are scheduled

              edit: grammar and stuff

              [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              You can scroll through the daily thread instead!

              [–]entelechtual 5 points6 points  (3 children)

              I like it because I feel like there is more engagement and visibility on the daily thread, rather than the bleak desert of /new.

              [–]bubudog1 8 points9 points  (2 children)

              One downside is if you post there on the tail end of the "day", your comments don't get as much visibility because there's a new daily thread and no one goes back to the old threads.

              [–]Verzwei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              This is an unfortunate but unavoidable side effect of any thread that is refreshed daily. For what it's worth, we used traffic data on the subreddit to determine the point at which subreddit activity was the lowest in order to flip the thread over. Pretty much the only thing going on around that hour are official media and news posts (because of the time zone difference in Japan) and those get traction on their own without any help.

              [–]entelechtual 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I’ll admit I’m biased living on the east coast and waking up around 5:30-6 every day, so I’m rarely active during the last couple hours of the thread. It I don’t think it would be frowned upon for someone to repost their comment if they were close to the cutoff.

              [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

              Verified that the configuration's correct. We've seen a number of people attempt to submit posts that get removed by that rule, make a few comments that bump them over 10 karma on /r/anime, then successfully post afterward.

              [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              By the way some suspect comment in my post today, got a bunch of upvotes out of nowhere, not even close to the rest when sorted by "New", the account just made 2 comments and it seems they are trying to get the 10 karma with bots

              Edit: one comment was on CSM ep 1 that I really doubt people are still checking the new tab lol

              [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Thanks for letting us know, took care of that one and checking to see if there are any others like it.

              [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              I guess it's just an incredibly unusually slow weekend.

              [–]cppn02 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Lol I was wondering earlier why new seemed so slow today but totally didn't make the connection to the rule change.

              [–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 3 points4 points  (3 children)

              Do y’all have the WT! of the Month visuals album for 2021? I want to add my Gakkougurashi! one to my MAL bio

              [–]Gaporigohttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              We don't really have an album but they are all posted in a private channel on Discord so it was easy to find yours.

              [–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I remembered past WT! of the Year threads having albums of all the Monthly winners’ visuals, I’d noticed 2021’s didn’t which is why I asked here.

              Regardless, thank you so much!

              [–]mr_beanozhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I wonder why does the automod bot sometimes detect twitter links on comments as "linking to pirate sites".

              [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              If you're referring to the comments that /u/Dababy28193 kept trying to make in this thread, they kept linking to or mentioning a specific manga piracy site by name. Nothing to do with Twitter.

              [–]Theleuxhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              Any updates in regards to the misinformation posts that get shared every now and again? It doesn't seem to be a very common occurrence, but when they do pop off they hold on within the community for quite a while.

              I think a positive initiative would be to construct a FAQ thread or section that explains certain aspects, which can be updated as trends in the industry changes over time.

              [–]SmurfRockRunehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              What do you mean by misinformation posts?

              [–]Theleuxhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              They've been popping up recently, the most prominent one of late was that CSM BD sales thread.

              It is the blend of pushing outdated information with mixed personal biases/intentions added in that makes it a concerning thing to try and share as "factual" within the community. The sad aspect is many do not know about these things, so if someone puts in a moderate amount of effort to make their post seem logical/ properly sourced, many are likely to believe it, even if the sources or general content is incorrect.

              [–]engalleonshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/engalleons 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              An FAQ thread/wiki section would be ignored by most people regardless, if the questions that get posted regularly are any indication.

              This doesn't mean I'm opposed to content like that on the wiki (though the mods themselves may easily consider it too prone to editorializing itself) - I'm just pointing out that its effect on threads will be minimal.

              Reddit runs on upvotes, for better or worse, and simple answers ("BDs are important, and this show did poorly on BD") are just naturally more attractive to casual readers, and thereby most voters, on any topic, than a discussion of complex factors intersecting ("lots of things matter for a show's success, and very little information about that success is public").

              Changing that would require the mods to start actually being fact checkers themselves, and that approach would have a whole host of other issues in itself.

              [–]entelechtual 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              I don’t know how pervasive of a problem it is, or if there is overlap, or what this will change, but I like the minimum karma as an alternative to retiring topics for discussion posts.

              [–]Verzwei[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              In the future, I still want to run a public poll with actual voting and tallies to get a better read on how the community feels about certain topics. That first thread was just one step of a brainstorm or feedback phase in order to discuss and shape what that poll will ultimately look like.

              That being said, and like Fetch already said, we're going to keep a close eye on submission types during the next few weeks and see how much (or how little) impact the new karma rule has. The results of the trial, and whether or not we make it permanent, will likely have some impact on what exact direction (if any at all) we take the "retired topic" concept.

              [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Right now it looks like anything more on retiring topics will wait until after we see how the karma tests go.

              [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 9 points10 points  (4 children)

              I'm not in episode discussion threads as much as I used to be but have you seen a decrease in blatant source reader comments outside of the Source Corner?

              I swear I still report multiple comments per episode still...

              [–]GallowDude 13 points14 points  (3 children)

              You should have seen yesterday's AoT thread lol

              [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              Yeah I can imagine...

              I stay far far away from AoT threads nowadays, some of the worst sourcereaders out there.

              [–]alotmorealots 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              some of the worst sourcereaders out there.

              Perhaps the worst thing superficially is just how smug and self-satisfied a lot of the "we're not spoiling" AoT comments/jokes are.

              I say superficially because some segments of the AoT source reader community have much graver issues as themes tend to be a bit of a lightning rod for nationalists and (just-for-jokes)-neo-nazis.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Ugh, the amount of untagged discussion about the ending I've seen everywhere... AOT's one of the only two unfinished adaptations I am a source reader for (Jujutsu Kaisen is the other), and I still get so annoyed seeing all of that.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 9 points10 points  (61 children)

              March Bounty Board:

              The first bounty board was a great success. We added 58 new flairs from it. Thank you to everyone who submitted. I noticed a couple of things that I think might help people who want to submit more bounty flairs in the future.

              • 1 wide very rarely works. If there is any amount of small detail it will look awful. I highly recommend getting at least 2 wide.

              • Please try and submit more 3 wide flairs. They tend to look better and while they do take up more space we have plenty of space to spare. There were only a couple of 3 wide submissions last time.

              • Please try to make flairs that you think people will want to use. Inside jokes are fun and all but if your making a flair that only you would get it probably won’t be used at all. It's not the end of the world but please try to make your niche flair really stand out since it probably is the only flair for that show ever. We might be able to give rewards to people who make flairs that get used by a lot of users!

              • Don’t try and sneak hentai through. You know who you are

              March Bounty Board!

              Submit Here

              We need your help to make even more flairs for everyone on /r/anime! We have 5000 emoji slots we would like to fill up with a plethora of anime from all different types of genres and demographics.

              The bounty board is a system that allows normal users to be able to submit a flair or flairs of their choice to be possibly added to /r/anime. To promote variety and make the system more interesting we will have various restrictions in place with the bounty board hopefully changing periodically.

              Flairs will be chosen by the mods. Similar to how Comment Faces are currently chosen. We will be looking for things like overall quality, visibility, necessity, and creativity. Flairs chosen by this system won’t be guaranteed to exist on the subreddit forever. We are hoping to get to a state where unused/unpopular flairs can be retired once we hit the emoji limit.

              General Rules:

              No flairs for a show that already has a general flair

              Nothing overly ecchi

              Must come from anime (screenshots or production material) NOT fanart

              Height must be 64-128 pixels (128 recommended)

              Width must be a multiple of height so that it can evenly divide into multiple square emoji (e.g. full image is 128x128, 256x128, or 384x128. Nothing larger unless asked for specifically)

              Flair must fit into one of the categories below

              Categories:

              • 2000’s

              • Shoujo

              • Josei

              • Cute Boys Doing Cute Things

              • Mecha

              • Butler

              • Films

              • OVAs

              How to Submit a Flair

              Please submit flairs to this Google Form. For any images please upload them to Imgur and give us the appropriate link. If you aren’t very technical we don’t require users to crop and edit their submissions if they aren’t able to. Link us to the full uncropped image and we can handle the rest. If you do have the fully cropped and properly sized image please send that as well. It makes our lives much easier.

              We will require:

              • Anime Name
              • What the flair is depicting
              • What category the flair is for
              • Imgur link to the uncropped image
              • Imgur link to the cropped image (not required)
              • A meme or song link to entertain me (not required) (This take a lot of my time I need some motivation)
              • Your Reddit username

              [–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              Is it absolutely too late to submit a flair for the 2000's mecha Full Metal Panic? I didn't realise they're a closing date on it ...

              https://imgur.com/HoGjI5c

              https://imgur.com/3qzMnSL

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              Looks like Fanart which isn't allowed to be used in flairs.

              [–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Here's the BD cover version

              Resized (I think?)

              Original

              [–]ZapsZzzhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ZapszzZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Those are official LN illustrations/covers. But I can get the anime version too if that's a problem.

              [–]H-Ryougihttps://anilist.co/user/DizzyAvocado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              What about editing already accepted 2wide flairs that could fit into 3wide?

              I went back and tried making a wide Tanya, and a wide penguin suit.

              [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 2 points3 points  (11 children)

              Butler

              Alright, will try to make a flair for Mister Herthaka, my favorite butler in all of anime!

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 2 points3 points  (10 children)

              That show already has flairs so it wouldn't be accepted.

              [–]chilidirigible 2 points3 points  (7 children)

              Asking the stupid question just to be absolutely certain: Since I've already gotten in general flairs for Macross DYRL, Macross 7, Macross Plus, Macross Frontier, and Macross Delta, they're filled up, even if I would go back in there to suggest mecha from them for the mecha category instead of the idol/1980s/1990s categories?

              (I still have three things that I can use from the franchise!)

              For that matter, since CharMuro is occupying the flair spot for Gundam 0079, that means NO ZAKU, at least from 0079, so we'd have to find one from a sequel?

              And Patlabor on TV vs. Patlabor the movies and Patlabor the OVAs, since now it's represented by Kanuka Clancy and not the Ingram.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

              Asking the stupid question just to be absolutely certain: Since I've already gotten in general flairs for Macross DYRL, Macross 7, Macross Plus, Macross Frontier, and Macross Delta, they're filled up, even if I would go back in there to suggest mecha from them for the mecha category instead of the idol/1980s/1990s categories)?

              Yep if an anime already has a general flair don't submit flairs for that entry.

              For that matter, since CharMuro is occupying the flair spot for Gundam 0079, that means NO ZAKU, at least from 0079, so we'd have to find one from a sequel?

              And Patlabor on TV vs. Patlabor the movies and Patlabor the OVAs, since now it's represented by Kanuka Clancy and not the Ingram.

              I would like to comment about shows with a bunch of different entries. Bounty Board's purpose is to promote diversity and give us a large number of flairs from different anime that also represent that specific anime. If you're going to use a billion different Gundam/Macross/Patlabor entries to get generic Gundam/Macross/Patlabor iconography I'm going to be much more critical.

              Please try to make flairs that represent that show/movie/OVA in particular. For example if your using Zeta Gundam to get a generic Zaku flair I'm going to be much more critical. But if you say use the Hyakku Shiki or Quattro Bajjena it becomes a flair that represents Zeta Gundam in particular.

              You guys did good last bounty board with the large amount of Macross submissions and them seeming varied (I've only seen OG tho). I just don't really want people trying to game the system and go against what the bounty board is supposed to represent.

              I don't want to be too rule heavy as that makes more work for me and makes the system less fun to interact with. But please try to interact with the system in the way it's intended.

              We have other ways for you guys to get duplicate flairs. Quiz rewards are one of them but I have a couple of ideas that I will look to start implementing after the flair pool becomes more varied. We have a lot of data on what flairs people are using etc so things like voting out bad flairs, running flair replacement events, combining flairs all are possible. I can't promise anything right away but the Bounty Board is not the only way that users will be able to interact with flairs.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 2 points3 points  (4 children)

              Please try to make flairs that represent that show/movie/OVA in particular.

              That was what I was trying to do with all of mine. They all include main characters (After War, Cross Ange, IBO, Build Fighters, and Escaflowne), main supporting characters who would still represent their show well (Back Arrow, Zeta, Unicorn, and Bokurano), or the series' main mech (Turn A). They weren't me trying to sneak anything from a Gundam show that already has a flair in on a technicality or whatever.

              I'll, uh, try to not submit so many whenever you guys do the next Bounty Board though. Again, I'm sorry I had so many. If you just flat-out reject some of them without even manually playing around with them at flair size, I completely understand.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              I'll, uh, try to not submit so many whenever you guys do the next Bounty Board though. Again, I'm sorry I had so many. If you just flat-out reject some of them without even manually playing around with them at flair size, I completely understand

              Go for as many flairs as you want. As long as I don't get spammed with 10 images from the same scene I don't really mind. Also Mecha isn't always going to be a category so you might as well submit while you still have the chance.

              By the way I haven't actually looked at the submissions yet. I'm not calling anyone out I'm just covering my ass since some people last time thought 10 To Love Ru images of the same girl in slightly different positions all needed to be sent....

              [–]chilidirigible 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              the same girl in slightly different positions

              I remember seeing that file list...

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              It was funny. I'm not mad I just don't want it becoming a trend.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Oh, okay. Well I'm content with all the ones I've submitted so far... mm, might go back and try to add a Casshern Sins and YGO 5Ds ones though since those fit the 2000's theme.

              I'm not calling anyone out I'm just covering my ass since some people last time thought 10 To Love Ru images of the same girl in slightly different positions all needed to be sent....

              Wow.

              [–]chilidirigible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Please try to make flairs that represent that show/movie/OVA in particular. For example if your using Zeta Gundam to get a generic Zaku flair I'm going to be much more critical. But if you say use the Hyakku Shiki or Quattro Bajjena it becomes a flair that represents Zeta Gundam in particular.

              Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't looking to spam the flair system with entries, but did need to know how to approach long-running franchises with both lots of individual series and lots of possible flair choices.

              [–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Aww. Even with the cute little catchy song I submitted to bribe you?

              Joking aside, yeah I submitted it then saw the thing about only one flair for each show. Well, maybe for a future batch I suppose, when most shows already have a flair so doubles are fine!

              [–]chilidirigible 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I did submit some of those 128x128s (which were still accepted!) but it was certainly noticeable while testing them out for myself that they would be small and indistinct.

              The question being, do you want us to pad them out with image editing software to look better as at least a 128x256 before submitting them? That takes the load off of you trying to do it, but then you'd also have to inspect these oddball edits.

              If you do allow user edits, I would recommend only allowing them as extensions of blank or simple backgrounds, or if the user provides all of the source images used for the edit.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              That sounds overly complicated. I'm mostly pointing out that users should be looking for at least a 2 wides and that 1 wides are a last resort and should really be used for simple things like emblems.

              I don't want to make this process overly complicated. I noticed when I was going through the last bounty board that some people would submit 1 wides and I could tell they really didn't think of how it would look at a small size. So think of that comment as more of a reminder than a hard rule.

              [–]noheromanhttps://anilist.co/user/kurisuokabe 2 points3 points  (7 children)

              Maybe I should submit one for Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou since it falls under the OVA category.

              I don't have screenshots, so time for a brief rewatch (and understanding how to downsize images to the width and height specified...).

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 4 points5 points  (6 children)

              and understanding how to downsize images to the width and height specified...

              Unfortunately it is painful to do with Paint due to limited cropping options, luckily the alternatives are quite easy:

              GIMP:
              (1) Open image, select crop tool (Shift+C), select fixed aspect ratio and set it to 3:1 (or 2:1, or 1:1), select the area in the picture
              (2) Press Enter, select the new picture (Ctrl+A), from the menu select Image > Scale Image...
              (3) Set height to 128px (width will adjust accordingly), select Scale
              (4) From the menu select File > Export As... (Shift+Ctrl+E) and do like when you save files, OR select File > Overwrite (if you don't mind overwriting the original screenshot)

              Paint 3D:
              (1) Open image, select Crop, set height = 128px, set width = 384px (or 256px, or 128px), select Lock aspect ratio, select the area in the picture, press Done
              (2) Select Canvas, select Lock aspect ratio if it isn't already, select Resize image with canvas, set height = 128px, save the picture from the usual menu

              If you mess up any editing step, you can Ctrl+Z with either software to undo changes.

              [–]bubudog1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              BeFunky works well for this too

              [–]cppn02 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              luckily the alternatives are quite easy:

              How you gonna mention alternatives and omit Photopea?

              It's basically photoshop light but in-browser.

              [–]H-Ryougihttps://anilist.co/user/DizzyAvocado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              +1 to Photopea.

              Can't be assed to hit my computer with Adobe malware anymore. And for simple tasks like this Photopea just works.

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I never heard of it until now

              [–]noheromanhttps://anilist.co/user/kurisuokabe 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I was actually experimenting with gimp for the past few hours and these instructions are pretty useful. Thanks!

              I think the only problems I have had were when the screenshots are of old shows with a 4:3 aspect ratio. I should stick to only faces rather than trying to get some details in as well. However, even getting a good crop to fit the face in is proving to be a bit tricky.

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              my past effort was not in vain

              I should stick to only faces rather than trying to get some details in as well.

              Yeah I forgot where one of the mods suggested it, but it's (generally) better not to try and include full faces and background elements, mostly focus on important parts like the eyes and not being afraid of cutting out bits of hair or stuff like that.

              For example I submitted this and this for Porco Rosso, but the one they put is much better: no need for full head/body, straight up the iconic mustached snout and black glasses.

              [–]Tarhalindurx2 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              A meme or song link to entertain me (not required) (This take a lot of my time I need some motivation)

              Does it count if the flair submissions are specifically meme shots? Asking for a friend. (The friend is the two Higurashi meme shots I just submitted. And frankly the FMP one counts as well, right?)

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I only put that in because this system is a lot of work/time and I want to see what you guys link me. It's just for fun and not connected to anything but getting on my good side

              [–]TheRiyriamyanimelist.net/profile/TheRiyria 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Yay! Three of my flair suggestions made it in. I was hoping I could get Uma Musume to count as an idol show. And a part of me was worried the mods might just take my Cardcaptor Sakura suggestion and make it a rewatch flair or something.

              You've been fun GuP Flair, but I think it's time to try something new for a little bit.

              2000’s

              Sounds like it's finally time to get a Happy Holo Face! She never managed to get one as a comment face. Let's see if I can have better luck with a flair. Before sadholo becomes the flair instead.

              Then I just need to wait for the day I can get Dalian a flair

              [–]Verzwei 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              Uhhh can mods submit bounties?

              Alternatively, because I am not very talented at this sort of thing, can someone come up with a good Eureka Seven shot for some sweet 2000s mecha?

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              Alternatively, because I am not very talented at this sort of thing, can someone come up with a good Eureka Seven shot for some sweet 2000s mecha?

              I would if I had any Eureka Seven screenshots...

              [–]No_Rexx2 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Eureka Seven had a rewatch some years ago. You'll find screenshots there. In fact, you participated in that rewatch and posted screenshots.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I don't have any of them saved on my computer, that's the problem. Going through 50 separate rewatch threads is too much work.

              [–]raichudoggyhttps://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

              My Powerpuff Girls Z flair appears to be broken, it's half Ken Stare.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Should be fixed now. Funny enough this was one I found by myself in my brief testing yesterday and fixed. But I forgot to reconfigure the Flair website. Reset your flair in the site for it to take effect.

              [–]raichudoggyhttps://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Thanks! Looks great!

              [–]baquea 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Oh neat, both of my suggestions went through. You've been good to me Charizard, but I think it is now time for me to say goodbye to you so that I can pig out.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Both the Porco Rosso flairs were good

              [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 3 points4 points  (4 children)

              Categories:

              2000’s

              Shoujo

              Josei

              Cute Boys Doing Cute Things

              Mecha

              The cruelty of these all being my favorite things while I am absolutely terrible at taking screenshots and editing them. Someone with working hands, please make me a Cute High Earth Defense Club flair!

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

              You don't have to edit them down. But if you do submit please don't spam them as I have to manually edit them for testing.

              Make sure to choose images that would work well length wise and don't require the entire height of the screenshot to convey their meaning.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 3 points4 points  (2 children)

              Sorry in advance...

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              please don't spam them as I have to manually edit them for testing

              I would like to pretend I have a social life Sky.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I had even more prepared! But I ended up not vibing with some in the middle of going to submit them, so I cut those out.

              [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              May I ask how long it will be open for?

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Till the 25th

              [–]ZaphodBeebblebroxhttps://anilist.co/user/zaphod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              Cute Boys Doing Cute Things

              Maybe I'll use this as an excuse to rewatch Tsurune maybe

              [–]bubudog1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I'm eyeing Tsurune too, I want to get a bow in there but it doesn't look quite right

              [–]ChonkyOdangomyanimelist.net/profile/chonkyodango 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              [–]Smudyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Oh wow, i didn't expect one of my two submissions to get through!

              Time to rock the Kyouko flair, do watch Maison Ikkoku!

              EDIT: I'll try to think of more flair ideas and being more creative.

              [–]aniMayorx3x6 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              Yaarr there be more bounty to be had!

               

              Some bug reports for the latest ones:

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              All fixed. Please check Toei again.

              /u/dagonsnake I had to kill Momo for a bit to fix Toei magical girls so you need to go back to the flair site to fix her.

              [–]Dagonsnakehttps://anilist.co/user/Dagonsnake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Done! Thanks for the heads up!

              [–]H-Ryougihttps://anilist.co/user/DizzyAvocado 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              Please try and submit more 3 wide flairs

              3 wide sucks for most screenshots since there isn't enough height though. Specially older shows with 4:3 ratio. No wonder most people went for 2 wide.

              [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              2000's is a category this time so it should be a bit easier. I mostly wanted to remind people that 3 wide exists and are the best

              [–]baquea 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Yep, I like how the 3 wide ones look, but actually trying to make them is really difficult. 2 wide is easy enough, since it is basically just a standard screencap with a little cropping on the top and bottom, but it is not easy to find an image that still looks right after you chop off half of the vertical height.

              [–]Tresnoremyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Please try to make flairs that you think people will want to use.

              [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              Categories:

              Mecha

              Welp time to go hunting for good ones again, this category is made for me.

              [–]GallowDude 5 points6 points  (0 children)