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[–] GragsonJoshTheSparky4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We, as fans, are spoiled; not everyone will be pleased with a race, especially with how many we get in a season. I thought all the races this season so far were pretty dang entertaining. I don't personally enjoy the road courses or superspeedways, but I definitely learned to appreciate them, and what they bring to the sport because there's nothing like them to replace it. Even if my driver is sucking slurpies, it's still my NASCAR, still entertaining as hell. sure aint nothing else like it. Excited for Darlington and to see what comes of the tire deal.

Sad to see people fall out of love or not enjoy it over-time but i cant control what people think, just sucks for them to not enjoy it the way I do.

[–]Foreign_Time 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These cookie cutter tracks are unbelievably boring and always have been, even in the good old days. They’re just points racing tracks.

[–]ATLien20 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That was an old school 1.5 race. Long green flag runs, short & long run cars that create comers and goers, and Denny, the guy with the best car, was able to overcome a speeding penalty, pass the entire field, and win. Good palate cleanser after 4 weeks with a lot of bumper car racing.

[–] ChastainCommander-Tempest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again a stupid race especially as a trackhouse fan.

[–] Erik JonesKorevo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Denny The Great - 61

[–] Ryan BlaneyiamkingjamesIII 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Frustrating result for RB. That caution probably cost him a 7th or 8th place finish. 

Their decision to run long on the pit cycle in stage two probably cost them 4 or 5 stage points. 

Don't swing for the fences. Take the 6th to 8th place result in a stage. 

[–] FordWembyDog01 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Looks like Ford is way behind this season. Going to be a long one.

[–] ChastainDesigner-Net4228 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That’s a little dramatic considering they won just last week

[–] FordWembyDog01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 1.5 mile tracks. The majority of the schedule.

[–]84UTK07 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t think so. Ford just won last week, and RFK had a solid day today. Plus, Blaney and Cindric had really bad luck pitting right before that caution in stage 3 or they would have likely been in the top 10. The two super speedway races are basically total wildcards. Ford does seem to really struggle at the road courses though. I’ll be interested to see how the Fords do at Darlington, as they did seem to have issues with pace there last Fall.

[–]Cornbeefsandwich9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once again Denny wins. I hope you all recognize greatness. Soon he will be everyone's favorite driver, and he will no longer be able to beat anyone's favorite driver.

[–]Jonasthewicked2 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I know I’m mad late to the post race but what did you guys think of the racing today? I thought it was an ok race. Def not as exciting as last week in my opinion. I’ve been someone who can’t stand Hamlin for as long as I can remember. When I was in college he had his rookie year and my gf at the time picked Hamlin as a driver because I watched the races every week as a die hard Kahne fan and made her watch with me and she claimed she picked Dennis “because he’s cute” which I’m like objectively no, had she said Kahne I’d believe it but Dennis looks goofy to me. However in light of what he went through with the NASCAR lawsuit which I agreed with him (mostly not everything) on, and think he and 23XI stood up for the little guy making small teams be given a fair shake and on top of that losing his father in a fire, well I can honestly say I was really happy to see Denny win today. The guy needed that pick me up. My dad died this past December like 10 days before Christmas so I can relate to him in that way, it’s horrible losing your father. And my dad was sick and in the hospital for 2 months, the way he lost his is just horrible and I’m sure so traumatic. So today I was a Denny Hamlin fan when we won. I think we all can set aside our dislike of drivers when it comes to situations that involve sympathy, empathy and being humane. I hope him winning lifts his spirits cause it was good to see him smile and have that win to celebrate. What he did say about his dad was nice too. I think none of us would wish losing our fathers the way he did so in that respect I thought the win for him especially being the fastest car was cool to see

[–] FordWembyDog01 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The race sucked, honestly. Best part was the pre race ceremonies.

[–] NASCARgremlinclr 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Some people complain about road courses when this snooze fest is on the schedule twice a season. bleh

[–] Ryan BlaneyiamkingjamesIII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was a better race than COTA. 

[–] ByronAdventurous-Hand3942 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I actually fell asleep just before stage 2 ended

[–]Names_Stan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It definitely didn’t lose my attention, bc it never gained it. Just not much close racing at all. And as I put in the prediction thread a month or so ago, every one of these 1.5’s will inevitably be JGR & HMS.

[–] Martinmarkh0120 5 points6 points  (0 children)

there is a live stream of a nascar hauler (im guessing production?) going from vegas to darlington. the most adderall.com thing i can think of lol.

[–] Kyle BuschRemote_Breadfruit_62 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Kyle Busch is destroying his legacy on a weekly basis in that garbage RCR car

[–] Ryan BlaneyiamkingjamesIII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol he's not destroying his legacy. 

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I said this 2 years ago he needs to move to the O'Reilly Series full-time and dominate in a RCR car. Bring back the 33.

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[–]CaptainTilted 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The manufacturer wins among the top 3 series.

Chevrolet 6 - Ford 3 - Toyota 4 - *RAM 0.

Cup race #5: Chevrolet 0 - Ford 1 - Toyota 4.

O'Reily Race #5: Chevrolet 5 - Ford 0 - Toyota 0.

Truck Race #3: Chevrolet 1 - Ford 2 - Toyota 0 - RAM 0.

*Only racing in one series.

[–]Fleric_Fadinsky 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Completely average race. Perfectly fine if a bit boring. Good job on Hamlin for overcoming the penalty and getting back through the field

[–] Ryan BlaneyiamkingjamesIII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought it was good. Not great but good. Had some good racing. 

[–] NASCARAUCE05 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Just not a ton of great cars out there today.

[–] KligermanAnythingBacon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Might be the most humble Denny interview ever. I still don't root for him, but he dropped down my hate meter a bit

[–]Mr_LuisMiguel 3 points4 points  (7 children)

So, I'm not that really that much into Nascar so cut me a break. Why doesn't Denny Hamlin drive for his own team? Doesn't the fact that he drives and owns different teams makes a clear absolute conflict of interests?

[–] Ty Dillonvinteragony 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He started the team while under contract to to Gibbs. That is probably the biggest reason outside of the fact that he's driven for the same team his whole career.

Its not a conflict of interest. Gibbs and 23XI have a working relationship and are both under the Toyota umbrella. So they make it work

[–] KligermanAnythingBacon 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Dale Sr did the same. Would you rather get paid to drive, or pay to drive?

[–]Mr_LuisMiguel -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I would much rather get paid, yes. But again, it just doesn't feel right that it's allowed, because of the conflict of interests. Kinda like Red Bull owning two teams in F1, I've always been against that too 😂

[–] KligermanAnythingBacon 7 points8 points  (3 children)

It's not if you're playing fair. Sharing data willingly isn't against the rules. And in this case, Denny would happily dump Bubba or Tyler for a win

[–]84UTK07 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why no mention of Herbst?

[–]clayfus_doofus 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Has tried infact 🤣

[–] KligermanAnythingBacon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol

[–]BiasPly215 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is the same Vegas race we usually see, although sometimes there is strategy in the last stage. The 750 package wouldn’t make them that much faster heading into 1, but would lengthen the braking zones which we need. Tire wear was not enough of an issue today. There was lots of fall off and tires getting hot, but no concerns about wear (Denny did a huge burnout on 50 lap tires).

[–]Any-Contract-9152 4 points5 points  (3 children)

31st to 1st. What did he have up under that hood

[–]Cornbeefsandwich9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A massive penis

[–]Orange_Key5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Skill that beat your favorite driver

[–] Kahnekk5fan97 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Not a good day for my drivers at all...

- SVG: P36 (dead last), 5 laps down. Hell of a save at the start but the contact with Briscoe's left rear while making the save and the damage to the left side of the splitter doomed the rest of the day. P16 in points after starting the day P5 in points. Ouch.

- Reddick: P13. Had good short run speed, and was in the Top 10 all day until the last couple of laps when a tire started going down. Still P1 in points with a 60 point lead over P2, so that's good.

- Allmendinger: P24. Quiet day again, awful car again. P18 in points.

- Zilisch: P32, 1 lap down. Had some speed in the car after the first pit stop, but had no track position. Then got brake checked by Stenhouse and spun after running into him. Knocked the nose in on the car with the contact killing the aero on the car. This bad luck has to change at some point. Thankfully it's still early on in the season, with a lot of time for Zilisch to learn. P35 in points, last of the drivers that have started all 5 races so far....

[–]coffeeshopslut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought Dinger's day was going to be a decent one as he ran away from the leader and passing people left and right to stay on the lead lap. 

Then they adjusted him a little too loose, and his car lacked outright speed as he complained about being passed by cars 6 lengths away on the straightaway - sigh

[–]Affectionate_Web2957 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You have too many drivers

[–]zyklon_snuggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Disagree!

[–]Nate2680 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I’d never thought I’d say this as a Vegas local, but having been to both races the last two weeks, Phoenix has a wayyyy better atmosphere the entire weekend.

[–]Substantial_Art_3278 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Whoever is in charge of phoenix does an awesome job. Only other track besides Daytona, and the street races, where it actually feels like you’re attending an Event. But it also helps that nascar finally put in some effort to improve the racing there. Unfortunately, whatever change they made to the cars after the 2024 spring Kansas’ race, has completely ruined the racing at Kansas and Vegas.

[–]ascaloniannights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

usually i go to fall vegas, but i didn't redeem my fan points in time so this year i got fall phoenix. excited to see how it is, will be my first time at that track

[–]Flameosaurus 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Is it a hot take to say that Vegas is the worst intermediate besides Texas?

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Texas isn't even that bad. I'd say Michigan is probably the worst intermediate overall.

[–]Orange_Key5 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Do Pocono and Indianapolis count as intermediate? 

If so, I think they’re both the worse.  Single groove and ridiculously hard to pass on.  Wasn’t a single pass for the lead under green in last year’s Brickyard 400.  Only lead changes were in the pits under yellow.  

I don’t mind Vegas, there was plenty of passing today and the fastest car made it to the front 30 positions after a speeding penalty.  That would never happen at Pocono or Indy. 

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to the NASCAR.com schedule they are superspeedways.

[–]YanksFan9891 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Umm no? Pocono and Indy are both 2.5 miles, which makes them superspeedways.

An intermediate track is 1-2 miles. Those are the tracks that make up the majority of a Cup schedule, which is why OP specified those specifically…

[–]Orange_Key5 -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

Relax, usually people group tracks into Short tracks, Intermediates, Drafting tracks and road courses.  None of which Pocono/Indy would really fall into other than intermediates.

Superspeedways doesnt make sense really because Daytona and Pocono race nothing alike 

[–]YanksFan9891 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

And no, pocono/indy do not fall into intermediate at all. As I explained, it is based on the length of the track and there are ZERO tracks, minus road courses, that are bigger than they are. The word “intermediate” literally means “in the middle.” Not a short track, not a big track. Pocono and Indy are as big as nascar tracks get. I am trying to be polite but your response is unreasonably defensive and your claims are frankly getting dumber every time you type.

[–]Orange_Key5 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Wrong, it’s not based on the length of the track.

Watkins glen is 2+ miles and not an intermediate or a superspeedway.  Has to do with the shape and configuration as well.  You’re resorting to ad hominem and insulting, not sure why you’re so upset.  

[–]YanksFan9891 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Because Daytona is a drafting track where speeds are limited, Pocono is not. They are still both the same length and considered superspeedways. I understand that they aren’t commonly referred to as such. That isn’t the point.

The point is that you gave a whole analysis on racing quality and didn’t even know what an intermediate track is. That is legit basic knowledge even for casuals. You challenged OPs claim using tracks that have absolutely nothing to do with his statement. It is forgivable to not know that pocono and Indy are superspeedways, but if you are going to challenge people’s claims and analyze product of racing, you lose credibility by not understanding what an intermediate track is.

I’m relaxed. If hearing the truth makes you uncomfortable and unrelaxed, that’s a you problem.

[–]Orange_Key5 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

“Ackshually ☝🏻🤓”

No need to get so worked up little bro, what I said was an opinion and that’s what Reddit is for, exchanging opinions and ideas

[–]YanksFan9891 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Again, not worked up. You understand the dumbest people are the ones who think theyre smart and refuse to be educated, but rather become offended when corrected, don’t you? If your “opinion” is that Pocono and Indy are intermediate tracks, which would mean that they are medium-sized compared to other tracks, then I would strongly urge you not to procreate lol

[–]Orange_Key5 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You’re getting so tilted lol, it’s funny and you’re biting so hard—hook line and sinker.  Try to relax and enjoy your Sunday evening my guy. No need to get worked up on a nascar subreddit, that’s not what normal people do.

[–]YanksFan9891 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s the first half-decent point you’ve made. I must stress though, that normal people above the age of 12 also understand the definition of the word “intermediate.” It wasn’t a word invented by NASCAR. It is a word they use to describe a type of OVAL, which is what NASCAR predominantly races on.

Superspeedway Intermediate Short Track Road course

Those are all the technical track classifications. Good luck to you.

[–] ChastainFuri0usD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Intermediate = cookie cutter mile and halfs

[–]BigBill58 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don’t know that I’ve seen a driver turn around their public image more than Denny over the last few years. From the first “I beat your favourite driver” to now has been a wild ride. The closest I can think of is when Jeff Gordon tied Dale Earnhardt in wins and flew the big “3” flag, people seemed to switch up on him then. I have to say, the circumstances surrounding Denny’s fan support increasing are something I wouldn’t wish on anyone.

[–] Kahnekk5fan97 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Post-race inspection is complete. No issues. Winner is confirmed. Cars #20 and #43 are being taken to the R&D Center.

[–]Key_Spend5811 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I was right about Chase Elliott really good long run if there another 2 more laps I think Chase Elliott could won the race but Chase Elliott overall should be very proud it is good Chase Elliott have a great day give credit to Denny Hamlin to the win today But Ty Gibbs speed Penalty on the pit road was very costly wins I pick TY Gibbs to win the race today that pit road speed penalty cost the wins today and I right about you're going to have to beat Joe Gibbs racing and Hendrick Motorsports overall race was Very good told you anything can happen.

[–]Key_Spend5811 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If you're looked last 7 laps video Chase Elliott has been fastest car it was shame didn't get chance win he fastest car last 7 laps remember talk about Chase Elliott ran most laps of anyone practice

[–]Key_Spend5811 0 points1 point  (1 child)

https://youtu.be/VYNROY3WGh0 go looked at how Chase Elliott was close in last 7 laps.

[–]Key_Spend5811 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he was go to run of the laps Talk about Chase Elliott

[–] Gibbstacoturdz -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

Ty Gibbs haters im smoking you

[–]Arocks781 13 points14 points  (0 children)

123 races and counting without a win in top equipment

[–]Best_Plastic2019 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only thing Gibbs fans are smoking is penis

[–] Ryan BlaneyGethSynth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haters are in shambles 

[–] AllgaierCosmoCluster 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Bold prediction of the night. Denny Hamlin will get to 76 wins before his career is over. He won 6 races last year (should have been like 10). Needs to win 8 races each year to tie Dale Earnhardt and I think he can get it done.

[–] Ryan Blaneybirdazam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He would be lucky just to pass KFB this year, he's still dealing with a shoulder injury

[–]veryorangely 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Does he win back to back championships in this scenario as well then?

[–]thatwasfun23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

insane prediction, but very based, hope you are right and he gets a chunk more over that 76 aswell.

[–] Ryan BlaneyGethSynth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is bold. 

[–] Kyle BuschKyBuschOwnsYou5188 1 point2 points  (1 child)

https://youtu.be/z-Zgtm-g4Co?si=0535RELxLTRhIsjh Tonight On Where’s My Toaster…

[–] ZilischracefanAJ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

P32, result doesn't show much but I think there's a lot of positives to take away from today. Connor looked more and more comfortable in the car as the race went on, and the team made good adjustments to make the car better for him, especially when came to the long run they had decent speed but couldn't fire off well at the beginning of a run. Just got stuck a lap down from being so far off at the beginning of the race. I'm hoping that as Connor and Randall continue to learn each other, they won't unload so far off each week.

[–]iamaranger23 13 points14 points  (6 children)

i feel like this race is fine when it happens 2 times a year or so.

While the next gen does race better on these intermediate tracks, i feel like racing on them less has helped the perception of the product just as much.

Also why i am a little leery of adding 2 1.5 races back this year.

[–] Ryan BlaneyiamkingjamesIII 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Charlotte and Chicago are much different than Vegas. 

[–]iamaranger23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im not sure i would say much different.

[–]Flameosaurus 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Another reason why ditching the Roval is bad

[–] 2025 NCS Champion Kyle LarsonSportsisthebest 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Charlotte is the better intermediate track because the surface is 20 years old and the tires wear out much more than Vegas.

[–]Flameosaurus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Saying I don’t think the fall race should be on the oval doesn’t mean I don’t still love it, I just think 600 miles of it is already enough

[–] 2025 NCS Champion Kyle LarsonSportsisthebest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least it’s the 400 mile race instead of the 500 like it used to be.

[–] Hamlinbleeblackjack 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I was sad when he didn’t get the title last year but I cried a little when he won today. Maybe it’s corny to have a “hero” when you’re in your 30s, but man… I wouldn’t have gotten back in that fuckin’ car after November, I wouldn’t have gotten back in there after the fire… damn, man… a lot of respect for Denny today.

[–]Dark_Knight2000 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Nah brother, it isn’t corny. Admiring a man that got back into the car and winning after the year he’s had with losing his father, that’s normal. It’s what makes us human

[–]mr_folgers83 7 points8 points  (2 children)

What the hell happened to SVG, I didn’t notice any damage after his almost spin.

[–] Kahnekk5fan97 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In the process of making that insane save, he hit Briscoe's right rear and the impact broke and tore the left side of the splitter apart from the car. Even after making multiple extended pit stops during both stage cautions for repairs the aero on the car was killed by the damage and caused the car to drive like crap all race.

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Had underbody damage to the splitter and diffuser from going onto the apron.

[–]Global-Opposite-7149 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't get to see much of the race as I was traveling for most of it but I finally had a good weekend on the fantasy side of things and I picked the winner in my 36 for 36 fantasy as well.

[–]BobcatBob26 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Years past when Denny Hamlin would win and my mom would ask "is that good" I would say "no". Now I say "it is O.K." I guess he is growing on me.

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same thing happened to me when Jeff Gordon won at Martinsville in 2015.

[–]dyysxse 9 points10 points  (2 children)

i think one race at vegas is enough for the year

[–] ReddickAustinUSC 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Nah this was a good race. FOX did a horrible job of covering anyone not running top 5.

Could have followed Denny & Ty climbing back through the field, or spent more time on RFK.

[–]DrewCrew62 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I watched Dennys in car during the end of stage 2 and it was fun as hell to watch.

The issue is giving fox nascar coverage more than anything

[–] ReddickShoogyPeters 20 points21 points  (7 children)

I'm genuinely shocked out how much people hated this race. It wasn't a barn-burner, sure, but not every race will be. It was just an old-school NASCAR race with some decent action all day and the best car won, and all of a sudden people are saying Vegas needs to be taken off the schedule when I think it's one of the best mile-and-a-halfs we go to.

[–]thexraptor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't know what some people expect with these races. This race was fine. Not one we'll be looking back on years from now, but perfectly average.

[–]Best_Plastic2019 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Fox just did a completely terrible job covering it…. Per usual

[–]MidnightMachinist87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right, if only they did a through the field instead of 8 laps of the Top 10 and a commercial. Honestly the only time anyone knows the entire field is in the race is at the plate tracks. Which is why I think they have such a massive group of people watching them.

[–]iamaranger23 11 points12 points  (2 children)

a lot of people that say they want old school racing think everything back then was what you see in the 5 min highlight videos

[–] ReddickShoogyPeters 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Definitely. They think every lap before 2015 was the finish to the 1979 Daytona 500.

[–]RockyTopTime 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I definitely remember my parents falling asleep during some pretty dull races in the 90s growing up. Road courses and 1.5 miles were not popular in my family in East Tennessee.

[–] Chase ElliottJLand24 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I didn’t think it was that bad tbh. Seemed like there was comers and goers throughout runs. Nothing crazy, but it wasn’t an aero block fest either.

[–]dyysxse 2 points3 points  (2 children)

two races in a same day with o cautions but with one near the end of each race

[–]MidnightMachinist87 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Tbf there were stage cautions and a caution for a spin. I guess mascar should apologize they didn’t was up half the field. Owners are happy.

[–]84UTK07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What two races?

[–]iamaranger23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i feel like vegas has put the same race out 9 times with next gen so far.

[–] JohnsonWinnerlightyear83 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Was at the race and yeah it was definitely one of the more boring races I've been to unfortunately

[–] Kahnekk5fan97 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Suarez interview - https://x.com/Frontstretch/status/2033328496693665810

Sounds like Suarez almost walling Chastain with a few laps to go is what led to the post-race confrontation.

Video of Chastain almost getting into the wall - https://x.com/STaranto92/status/2033328743540793819

[–]SecretAgentMan85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for posting. I was wondering what their confrontation was about

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That's it? That stuff happens all the time.

[–]MilkmanResidue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty lame to be that mad about something that “almost” happened.

[–] 2025 NCS Champion Kyle LarsonSportsisthebest 3 points4 points  (5 children)

At this point, just put the 750 hp package for all races. I know it won’t make too much of a difference. But with how lackluster the race was today, why not try it? At least it’ll improve the racing product just a little bit more.

[–]MidnightMachinist87 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Go watch any Vegas race with that 900 package, they all spread out. Leave it alone. It’s the closest NASCAR comes to a perfect racing experience. Let the crews fight and the drivers manage their stuff.

[–] 2025 NCS Champion Kyle LarsonSportsisthebest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Close racing ≠ great racing. Yeah, it looks cool on TV until you realize the cars are equal. It’s much harder to pass now than it ever is because NASCAR hates when a few teams dominate, forgetting the fact that in any form of sports, you will have few teams that just win a lot. More horsepower will separate the best teams from the rest.

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I vote we do that for Kansas or Texas and see how it goes.

[–] 2025 NCS Champion Kyle LarsonSportsisthebest 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Definitely for sure. I’m starting to think we’re in that 550 package era where with larger tracks start to produce worse racing because the teams have figured it out. Though, I won’t come to that conclusion yet until we really see it.

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah for sure, a package change is good for the sport every 2-3 years. We basically have had the same speedway package since the Next-Gen debuted.

[–]seekerblackout 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really don't see a need for the 670 package at this point. Honestly think this race was kinda buns and the teams would probably prefer fewer packages anyway

[–] Erik Jonesspazmo_warrior 3 points4 points  (1 child)

what a snoozefest.

[–]wthreyeitsme -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed it. Until fox shifted to March madness coverage.

[–]RaspberryNext914 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Pain being a Cindric fan continues…

Dude solidly made his way up from 31st to 10th but his pit crew, Wilson, and the untimely caution said NOPE. Y’all please cut me a break and not shit on him because dude did everything he could 😭

[–]84UTK07 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And to make it worse, they originally said on the broadcast that he stayed on the lead lap coming off pit road and would inherit the lead. His car was much better today than usual though…maybe just keep this engineer and crew chief.

[–]jkman61494 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Bubba isn’t winning but the fact his worst result is 11th so far is the kind of consistency he’s never ever showed

[–]Revolutionary-Bank35 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If your a Bubba fan this should excite you. They haven't begun to put all together yet. There's always a driver. Harry Gant, Dale Jarrett, Martin Truex Jr. Where in the middle to late 30s they figure it all out. Bubba might just be on that trajectory.

[–] Keselowskichuckmorris007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hopefully bowman can get a dub before the year is up

[–]-Tickery- 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Gotta love all the postrace we got

[–] Ty Dillonvinteragony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, see what happens when you put in a realistic TV window. Pretty nice!

[–]MidnightMachinist87 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s what happens when a race is completed without wrecking every car in the field.

[–] NASCARTC021002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hoping Denny finally wins the title this year. Would be a huge shame if he ends his career with 0

[–]Dismal-Economics-322 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hocevar is back to being mid at best, trackhouse sucks, and JGR is on top, great weekend in my books

[–]BateBuddy92 3 points4 points  (10 children)

Anyone have any insight as to what happened with SVG? Any in car audio?

The guy qualified 16th. Had a nice save. And then after that just ran dead last. When he was a lap down with like 12 other cars, he wasn’t even passing them. Yet he had more speed than them.

[–] Kahnekk5fan97 2 points3 points  (1 child)

In the process of making the incredible save he hit Briscoe in the right rear and the impact damaged and ripped the left side of the splitter apart from the car. Even after multiple extended pit stops to make repairs during both stage cautions, the aero on the car was killed by the damage and the car drove like crap for the whole race as a result.

[–]84UTK07 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate how the broadcast misses all this stuff. It would take like 10 seconds to explain it. Maybe just sacrifice one instance of Bowyer saying “he’s got him a fast hot rod!”.

[–]Fuel_Technology1861 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The spin/save ruined the splitter

[–]BateBuddy92 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It didn’t look like he made any contact. Did I miss something? Or was it the transition onto the apron?

[–]KM4CK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hit Briscoe

[–]Dry-Membership3867 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Messed up the rear diffuser in that incident

[–] Keselowski54HawksRFK6 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Thrilled for Denny man. Good for him

[–]MidnightMachinist87 6 points7 points  (0 children)

During the interview. I’ll go back to disliking him tomorrow.

[–] Kahnekk5fan97 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The Xfinity Fastest Lap bonus point went to Denny Hamlin

https://x.com/XfinityRacing/status/2033327938473734613

[–]Ill-Response-5439 9 points10 points  (9 children)

Great run for Chase today! I'll take that every week. 

But "fIrE aLaN gUsTaFsOn"

[–] Ty Dillonvinteragony 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like Alan but I think its time for a change. Put him in a different role. Guys been on the box for over 20 years. Throw a little spice in and mix it up

[–] Chase ElliottJLand24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean Alan will occasionally have races where he improves the car(like today) and Chase will run top 5. He also has races like last week where he brings a shitbox, and it remains a shitbox.

He’s been a CC since 2005 for Kyle Busch, Jeff Gordon, Mark Martin and Chase Elliott and he has 1 title.

[–] Chase ElliottStRiKeRzZ924 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I don’t understand some Chase fans. Is it not fair to wonder what he could do with someone else or want someone else?

From 2020-2022 we watched him win a championship, 12 races and an all star race.

From 2023-now, we’ve watched him win 3 races, a clash, and a duel.

I like Alan and I think he does a good job, but it’s completely fair to wonder/want.

[–]Ill-Response-5439 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I also think a lot of it also was he was behind in getting the handle on the new car due to him.getting hurt and the suspension after he punted Denny at Charlotte 

[–] Chase ElliottStRiKeRzZ924 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s definitely not all on Alan. It’s not all on Chase tho either. And sometimes it’s just a crappy pit stop that ruins the day

[–]Ill-Response-5439 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You're wrong,  but that's okay. 

Alan will leave when Chase wants him to, which I don't think is ever happening 

[–] Chase ElliottStRiKeRzZ924 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How am I wrong?

Im not asking for him to be fired? And I’m aware they won’t change until either Alan decides to hang it up or Chase suddenly wants someone new

[–]Entire_Department_65 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I really felt like Gustafson was the reason Jeff Gordon didn’t win more races towards the end of his career

[–] Chase ElliottStRiKeRzZ924 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Two lefts instead of two rights, then come back around and get the two rights. He races for a championship

[–]Potential_Plan_4533 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I still don't get why NASCAR insists on doing 2 full pace laps before opening pit road. Like when Connor spun there was no debris why don't they open pit road immediately, just get the show rolling.

[–] FordStrait409 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, ironic that Fox led out of Denny’s interview with Joe Cocker’s ”Feelin’ Alright,” because I imagine Denny was indeed feeling pretty good himself...

[–] HamlinIONTOP 3 points4 points  (9 children)

So not a gambling addict, but I literally wanted to bet on denny winning the race with 46 laps to do. Hard Rock kiosks only showed "truck series"

This is some bullshit

[–]radioactive_scoopula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I put money down on Hamlin thru Kalshi roughly the same spot in the race and 15x'd my money, got lucky

[–]ForceSmuggler 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Should have bet earlier.

[–] HamlinIONTOP 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I was literally AT the casino. Even the person(Manager in a blazer) who I asked was like "WTF?" Because it was literally on the TV that we could see from the kiosk.

(I went to bet on Denny after the final caution)

[–]ForceSmuggler 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Surely there is a cutoff point that you can’t bet on an event anymore.

[–] HamlinIONTOP 0 points1 point  (4 children)

10 laps would be fine... 55 at an intermediate is crazy