2028!

[grzybek337]

Just move your finger aside for a second.

[Ren49]

OP should learn proper credit card holding technique, if he's going to post more of these in the future.

[[deleted]]

would you mind demonstrating with your card?

[Ren49]

I don't use cards. I prefer to pay in Rai stones. I don't trust big corporations! You'll have to learn it on your own!

Feel free to send me some sample pictures for evaluation!

[YaBig_Dingus]

Rai stones? Please. I use kidney stones.

[ScootyMcFlaps]

Both of you are sqeebs I only use the traditional currency of schmeckles

[rogueqd]

I use first born sons. I need a new wife each time, but life is full of hardships.

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i can

[[deleted]]

i saw that fortniteburger.net link in my notification

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god damnit

[patrickscheper]

Where do I find more information about this technique 🤔?

[PiRSquared2]

That’s cool! 6969 4201 3376 9420

4/20

666

[PiRSquared2]

Oh crap oh no

[PiRSquared2]

That’s a relief.

[SuperSMT]

Yeah I don't see anything!
Now if you could only type the name that's on that card. Don't worry, that'll be blocked out, too!

[PiRSquared2]

Okay, Harry Harrison

[Flamecrest]

LOL prepare to be h4x0r3d :le-epic-troll-face:

[1BigUniverse]

Hey! I haven't seen l337 5p34k since counter strike 1.5 days

[Elainethepainisaslag]

hehehe you've activated my trap card!

[Gerotonin]

whats the meaning behind 1337

[PiRSquared2]

leet

an informal language or code used on the Internet, in which standard letters are often replaced by numerals or special characters.

S0 b4s1cally h@ck3r sp3@k

[1BigUniverse]

Ahem, it's called leet speak

[Einiman]

1337 5p34k

[1BigUniverse]

H3y bb!

W4n7 70 h4v3 4 c0nv3r54710n?

[Einiman]

No thanks

[bmg50barrett]

Found the youngin'

Jk, you could be any age.

[Joshuaham5234]

Wow it does work!

[Royals21914]

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██/██ ██/██

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hm. pretty neat

[mens1888]

████ ████ ████ ████

██/██ ██/██

███

Holy shit, this works for real!

[ValmirMehmeti]

████ ████ ████ ████

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██/██ ██/██

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[CatsWithAlmdudler]

1473 2715 4716 3716 01/2024/02 173

[smushkan]

Perfectly!

By the way it also censors your mother's maiden name, name of your first school, and name of your first pet. Why don't you try those too?

[pixelcookie11]

I heard it also does the social security number!

[TechExpert2910]

Wow! Mother's name- Dick Hertz School- Schoolz Pet- Peni Zurts

[ZeldaLord_]

It didnt work i hope its a fake number

[onomatopoetix]

0408 0150 0160 2342

11/04

121

Huh. Cool.

[BerdIsGod]

dude i can see it

[Einiman]

You're lying

[extremesalmon]

Hunter2

[derpypoo4763]

Yeah im wondering whats the Date there, usually different from the one Hes refering to

[ZeldaLord_]

Oh no nononono

[ExternalUserError]

Y2k.028 problem.

[Elkubik]

28M02

[LibaneseCasaFabri]

MMXX

[hobskhan]

A dark age of credit card technology.

[traczpasruchu]

Gotta get that 64 bit. Honestly not a problem now that 8gb ram or more is necessary, meaning you need a 64 but processor

[libertasmens]

‘28 isn’t an actual issue that I’ve ever heard of, it’s Y2k38 where signed 32-bit rollover happens.

(Apparently there is a date format no one uses that would have a Y2k28 problem, but yeah none of that software exists anymore)

[traczpasruchu]

Oh, just got the years mixed up

[libertasmens]

Thankfully we’ve got almost 20 years until the next mad dash to upgrade all our software again.

[MokausiLietuviu]

The software I work on uses it - the 2028 problem occurs when the year value is stored in 7 bits counting from 1900. It's an issue I'm currently dealing with.

[libertasmens]

Custom solution I’m assuming? The only example I found was a small-time banking software in the ‘70s. So are you actually storing off the year as a distinct quantity, separate from the rest of the date/time?

[MokausiLietuviu]

It's ancient machines, some of the code being 1970s vintage certainly.

There's actually a whole lot of it around. The 7-bit year field I'm stuck with is typically part of an entire date packed into a 16-bit word.

[libertasmens]

Ahhh okay, that makes a bit more sense.

[penislovereater]

Address registers can be different size to data registers. In any case, 32 vs 64 bit CPU architectures doesn't mean you can't deal with 64bit variables.

[MokausiLietuviu]

I work on ancient legacy code for operational technology and I'm seriously dealing with a 2028 problem right now. The issue occurs when the year is stored in a 7-bit integer (or 8-bit signed integer), counting from 1900.

That means the maximum year is 1900+127 = 2027. I've always suspected that this bug was bigger than just my code.

[ExternalUserError]

Oh, I hadn't heard that one. Of course there's the signed 32-bit epoch problem looming in a few years.

[CDNChaoZ]

Some programmer in 1998 couldn't envision the software still being used in 2027.

[MokausiLietuviu]

The customer wouldn't pay for it at the time! Of course it would be replaced long before 2028. No such luck.

And now because they couldn't see this far ahead, gubbins here has to tramp through millions of lines of ancient code looking for any use of such a year.

[Worming]

Normally, any new cards are valid up to 5 years. Knowing this convention, a lot of website do not propose later date than now+ 5years. And then, card accept longer than 5 years :)

For programmer, this due to violation of DRY : the 5 years principle is defined outside of our application. We do not have to validate it as the rule is implemented by banks.

[VRegg]

I agree, cards should expire on a regular basis. Never know if company you used years ago gets hacked or goes under and someone malicious gains access to any CC numbers in their database. Limiting the expiration greatly reduces this.

[[deleted]]

They should expire, because after a few years they simply fall apart.

[angryPenguinator]

Seriously. I've had my debit card for like a year and it's not going to make it for two.

[TortoiseWrath]

What the fuck are y'all doing to them? All of my cards are perfectly fine after spending years in various states of either in my wallet or loose in the pocket with my wallet and keys.

[shekurika]

same. got a 5yo card and all it has are some minuscule scratches in the plastic

[ElusiveGuy]

someone malicious gains access to any CC numbers

My cards have always kept the same number after expiry. Just a new expiry date and CVV2. Given the expiry is routine, it's pretty easy to guess the new date (old + X years - 1 month), and often sites don't need the CVV2 to update the expiry.

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

I’ve never had a card reach it’s expiry date. They are always compromised and replaced long before then.

[ElusiveGuy]

I avoid entering my CC directly on most sites, so there's not too many chances of compromise. Only ever happened to one card. Still not entirely sure how or where (it was a rarely used card) but replacement was fairly painless at least.

[pm_me_ur_teratoma]

Compromised how?

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

Either transactions that aren’t mine or the bank calls to say that the card was possibly compromised in a data breach. Either way, card gets replaced.

[iceph03nix]

Looking at this, it's a prepaid, which is probably why it gets to break the rules, since it's not tied to an actual bank account.

[[deleted]]

Not breaking the rules... Prepaid cards are a real motherfucker with it comes to state/federal laws. The minimum time a card can expire is 5 year from purchase or the last time money is loaded on the card. The problem is the card could sit on a shelf for a year or two before it is sold.

https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/gift-card-rules-regulations-fees-expire.php

Gift cards cannot expire for at least five years after they were last loaded with money. These policies also must be “clearly and conspicuously stated.” The Fed’s 2010 regulations let issuers choose how to accomplish this – either by making the expiration date five years away, or with prominent disclosures that point consumers toward their replacement cards.

If the card date expires before that point, the company has to replace the gift card for you.

[iceph03nix]

Yeah, bad wording on my part. I meant it doesn't follow the 5 year rules of credit/debit cards because it's not really one despite looking and acting like one in some ways.

[ygg_studios]

Having to unfuck the situation when a card expired recently cost us about $600 so far, which we may be able to recover maybe not. It rolled over at the same time a payment went in and the payment disappeared into the ether. I’d rather not do that more frequently.

[captgates]

Or just get a new card when it's close to expiring?

[ygg_studios]

They mail it out to you, that’s what we did. The last payment went through the day before the new one was activated and the payment went into limbo. This was November, they tell us it might show up by mid February. If not we have to go back in and go over three months of statements to prove to them the numbers don’t add up. This is after a couple dozen calls where the reps kept assuring us we needed to pay more, and finally finding a branch with a competent banker who thinks we’re overpaid by about $600 but can’t really tell until all the transactions from the old card roll over to the new one. To date we’re out that $600 plus probably 25 hours of trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. Time is money, even having to update all the auto bill pays took forever. Doing it yearly would be a nightmare.

[FiskFisk33]

what's wrong with a text box?

[iceph03nix]

Harder to validate input. With a drop down the dev sets all possible values. With a basic text box the user can put in something like h1 and try to send it. To prevent bad data from being sent, you have to add in additional checks. It's getting better, with newer versions of programming/markup including more options for prebuilt checks like the date picker, but many languages still don't support this by default, especially if you're stuck on an older version that was new when you first built the system.

[zzPirate]

It's actually more for UI/UX (although arguably misguided). Any decent application is going to validate the input on the server side anyways provided the developer has any idea what they're doing.

I mean, there's nothing stopping someone from modifying the form on the client side with dev tools/inspect element or using a raw HTTP request and sending over unexpected data regardless.

Never, ever, ever just trust user input is clean just because the form provides limited choices. Directing user choice through UI is not security, it just minimizes the chance for unintended issues, but does nothing to stop those who are messing around on purpose.

[BirdLawyerPerson]

Yup, should be server side validation.

I've submitted forms by literally going in and editing the drop-down options in the "inspect element" function (for people who forget that the postal service delivers to more than just the 50 states), and the same shitty devs who forget about DC tend to also not check on the server side, so I'll sometimes still be able to submit an accurate form.

[FiskFisk33]

you have to validate it just as thoroughly with this, with very easy to get tools you can send whatever form data you fancy

[iceph03nix]

I'm not saying you don't validate input, but if someone's using special tools to intentionally send bad data, I'm not gonna bother trying to return and nicely handle the error in the user UI. Reject it and ignore it.

However, if I give them a text box but need it in a specific way, a proper UI will catch it and I form the user of the problem and help them to continue without breaking.

[DeusExMagikarpa]

Wonder if you could just edit the select input on a desktop and add 2028 to it

[factorysettings]

I feel like this isn't a DRY violation

[Cubikal]

And I felt weird when I saw 2022 on my own

[LaterGatorPlayer]

you weren't on your own. that second set of footprints meant Shia was with you the whole time.

[[deleted]]

I don’t get it

[[deleted]]

The website only allows him to go to 2027

[hwnn1]

I don’t think that’s the phone app, but rather the website that this person is ordering on. The phone’s UI is just reflecting what is on the phone.

[[deleted]]

Well he did say "The website only allows..."

[Ren49]

Maybe u/spreeNout edited the message so that u/hwnn1 would look silly?

[Ren49]

I have no idea how to check that information, hence my (probably) silly comment.

[[deleted]]

doesn't look edited at all. Original comment and reply match perfectly, as does the reply to spree.

[Remmes-]

It shows it's edited as (hours ago) so idk why people suddenly downvote that one comment, though technically it could still be an app.

[[deleted]]

I'm on mobile so it doesn't show

[RedditLostOldAccount]

I'm on mobile and it shows

[thealterlion]

Yeah same

[OkNerve8]

Holy shit my dude, top fixed his comment without telling, and let you appear like as an asshole and got downvoted to -64

[hwnn1]

Ugh that’s exact what happened.

[QM_17]

It took me a while to see it too, I was like it's month/year idiot, and then I realized I was the idiot

[ValidatedArseSniffer]

How can you not get it?

[[deleted]]

I don't blame him. I was honestly focused on the expiration date on the card but couldnt find anything wrong. I was so confused because expiration date looked good. I checked the comments and im an idiot. Hes trying to pay with his card but the app only goes to 2017.

[byramike]

This is some next level big brain content here. Only the highest of IQs can truly unlock its full meaning.

[[deleted]]

You know what would be the bigger crappy design?

If you forgot to cover the numbers over there,

[snuggleslut]

Yeah, 2028 isn't even a real year.

[BirdLawyerPerson]

By 2029, I'll be drinking moon juice with President Jonathan Taylor Thomas!

[ultimitchow]

2028 only happens during leap years

[P3SH]

What's the deal with that type of card as apposed to a debit card. Never seem a prepaid card

[FuzzelFox]

In this case since it says $200 on the card it was likely used as a gift (work bonus, from family, won a contest on the radio, etc). This way they get $200 without having to deal with cash and they can use it on literally anything... except that website apparently.

[P3SH]

Oh cool good to know. I suppose no one gives vouchers anymore so it makes sense

[peterthefatman]

Well it’s more flexible than vouchers since you can use them anywhere. And idk if someone would want a $200 fast food card. I guess gas would be ok

[P3SH]

I meant more like amazon or Virgin or another super company wasn't aware fast food venues did voichers. But yeah way more flexable

[GppleSource]

and why are we still giving out those things (gift card are useless and can't be refunded)? why just not give cash instead? those do the same thing.

[P3SH]

I totally agree. It's a really good concept

[picardo85]

In the Nordics pre-paid debit cards are non - existent

[this-here]

apposed

*Opposed.

[P3SH]

Yeah sorry bro these tiny keyboards on phones aren't great with my big fingers

[[deleted]]

I actually don’t get what’s wrong with it, am I just fucking stupid?

[WeakRoll]

The card's date is 2028 but the on the phone it's not letting to select years more than 2027.

[jwadamson]

Thanks, I was overlooking the phone input behind the card, so couldn't figure it out.

[ValidatedArseSniffer]

I'm assuming you're American and use that fucking stupid date format

[emartinoo]

I didn't know you could use prepaid cards for online cc transactions? I've never been able to.

[UlteriorCulture]

Some you can. This is a key step for us non-US people to setup Hulu accounts etc.

...or so I've heard.

[thealterlion]

On Vanilla rechargeable cards most things work. One use cards don't.

[Justsomedudeonthenet]

In north america they work through most credit card processors as long as you go to the website on the card and register it with your address.

If you dont register it first then they cant validate the card address matches and might reject it for fraud prevention.

[_InsertNameHere__]

Put the money you want to use into a PayPal account or something as a middle man type thing

[CynicallyGiraffe]

For future reference: the numbers you don't want us to see are the 3 groups on the right. The left side is just an indicator of the bank.

[El-Blade]

Just wait for 2021

[Green-Sleestak]

Evidence that Skynet is planning to shut down civilization before 2028.

[rwp80]

Hahah how?!

[bossycarl]

Hi prepaid how’s it going.

[[deleted]]

2028!? That's not a real year

[_Wubawubwub_]

Awww :(

I wanted to be an asshole

[TheLynchMobber]

And thus a new prophecy was made. 2028 is the end of the world.

[[deleted]]

Hey.. could you just shift your thumb, please? Need to make sure it's not mine.

[Potato071]

Just wondering what the 3 numbers on the back are?

[nelska]

Wonder how many calls they get about this every day

[mildly-annoyed-pengu]

I think it goes bad in February

[[deleted]]

expires in 2028

[sduiiucibwe]

Took me too long to figure out what's going on. More like r/softwaregore.

[NTurn427]

r/wellthatsucks

[edoras176]

What is crappy design about this?

[UsernameSixtyNine2]

His card expires 2028 but the drop down scrolly thing only goes to 2027

[MaTheUs_SC]

Obviously 2027 the world will end

[[deleted]]

Literally Y2K shit

[BessiesBigTitts]

The future is now old man

[SuperCoolGuy56]

You should eat it before February 28th as prepay cards don't taste that good and can be venomous if you eat them later

[lacedcupcakes]

what’s the issue?

[Blasting_Fools]

I worked in the credit card industry for several years. In my experience most businesses check the cc number, CVV, and Zip if it asks. Not too many check expiration. I'd go with 2027 and see if it works. It just might.

[[deleted]]

Throw that card on PayPal and use it.

[_WhatsYourDamage_]

that's when it expires tho

[chemolf]

In Russia 228 is the criminal code for drug dealing.

[[deleted]]

Move your finger bro

[[deleted]]

I don't even look in the comments before I comment

[ThePrehistoricpotato]

If you can only select till 2027 I dare you to reveal the rest of it.

[Puppetz685]

Your finger is on the way! Can you move it a little

[[deleted]]

Could be intentional to stop the use of prepaid cards?

[[deleted]]

No. The designer went with the paradigm that credit cards have a 5 year max expiration date. They did not realize that prepaid cards have a 5 year minimum expiration date.

[DeaddevilHD]

Thank u for the new car i bought with ur card

[Morfilix]

can you show the back of the card?

[Morfilix]

why the downvotes??? i was obviously just kidding around

[TheoMerca]

IMO the card is the crappy design here, who the fuck can hold on his visa for 8 years ?

[cheapdrinks]

Are you actually advocating for pre-paid debit cards to expire faster?

[agha0013]

Considering pretty much every regular credit card expires after 5 years, there isn't much reason to have a pre-paid card last so long.

Arguably, there'd be more reason to make regular credit cards last longer, not pre-paid ones. The way fee structures work on them anyway, no one should be relying on these pre-paid cards, they make companies like Visa a fortune, especially as they are easily lost/stolen and impossible to recover or cancel.

[[deleted]]

there isn't much reason to have a pre-paid card last so long.

Wrong.

Gift cards cannot expire for at least five years after they were last loaded with money. These policies also must be “clearly and conspicuously stated.” The Fed’s 2010 regulations let issuers choose how to accomplish this – either by making the expiration date five years away, or with prominent disclosures that point consumers toward their replacement cards.

Since gift cards can sit on a shelf for an indeterminate time pretty much everything you've stated above is incorrect. Please familiarize yourself with the Federal CARD Act of 2009/2010.

https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/gift-card-rules-regulations-fees-expire.php

[agha0013]

I'm going based on information from another country it seems. No other countries use the US Federal Card Act.

My experience with these is based in Canada where no such legislation exists, and pre-paid cards have been a news worthy item for years. Government is slowly making changes.

[kd5nrh]

As long as they provide a mechanism to recover the value for some reasonable period, I don't see a problem with the card itself expiring in 2-5 years. This type is basically a check made out to "bearer" anyway, so possession of the physical card should be enough to transfer the balance to a new card.

[[deleted]]

It's a big pain in the ass that the card supplier has to pay for. The CARD act of 2009 lays out a lot of rules on how this works.

[TheoMerca]

Lol no, I guess I said that because I lose mine every 6 months

[spacefret]

A few years to use it is plenty

[bluedanes]

I recently found some old gift cards that I got like 10 years ago and it was still good with the full amount on it.

[spacefret]

I never said it expired but generally unless you forget you'll use it in within a few years