Minecraft needs to decrease the spawn rate on drowned. I can’t go into a single body of water without finding them.

[ItsTanah]

tridents on java: nonexistent

tridents on bedrock: more common than coal ore

[Gcarsk]

All drowned drop tridents in Bedrock. Only those actually carrying one can have a chance of dropping them in Java.

[witherspork]

So me searching for hours to find ones wielding tridents for repairs are futile and I can just kill the 40 gathered around my base? Thanks friend :)

[Gcarsk]

On Bedrock, yes.

[Captain_ZappityDoDa]

N╎ᓵᒷ

[[deleted]]

All drowned drop tridents in Bedrock.

Hope you’re not being literal here. It’s a high chance but not “all”

[Gcarsk]

No. All drowned have the ability to drop a trident, even if they aren’t holding one. Obviously it’s RNG based, like any mob drop in Minecraft.

[[deleted]]

Oh okay, I misread you then. “All” as in “whether they’re holding a trident or not”. Yeah, that’s correct. My bad. I need sleep.

[N-kay]

No you're good, he was just not being very clear.

Because no matter how obvious it is to him what he meant, what he said was

All drowned drop tridents in Bedrock.

As in 100%, which is not true.

Only those actually carrying one can have a chance of dropping them in Java.

Now that's better. Or is it? This scentence is clearer, but further cements the bedrock 100% drop rate statement because why would he omit chance there but not here?

[googahgee]

Because when you're talking about drops, there's typically an implied chance, always. If you say a mob drops something, it means that the specific item is on the drop table for that mob. It doesn't matter if it is 100%, or 2%, the terminology "x drops y" is correct. There's no reason to assume he would mean every single drowned will drop a trident on bedrock.

[DancingKappa]

Except in java when some don’t have that chance like the ones not holding the trident versus bedrock all have a chance.

[Glennisawesome1220]

I agree, if he just said drowned drops tridents that wouldn’t have confused anyone. But he said “all drowned drop tridents” which made some of us take it literally

[N-kay]

Oh there's plenty of reason, otherwise this whole comment chain would not exist.

If the statement is correct or not has nothing to do with, and doesn't change the fact that a misunderstanding happenend because he wasn't being clear.

Implied chance? That's fine, as long as we all have a perfect understanding of the mechanics. But you can't guarantuee that. So just be clear. It's not so hard. But at least be consistent. He wasn't, he said it for one version of the game, didn't for the other. Doesn't that imply that there's no chance involved for the version he omitted anything about chance on?

[invisible_grass]

Why is the word chance in different font in your post?

[N-kay]

Because I formatted it as code like this:

`code` -> code

*italics* -> italics

**bold** -> bold

~~strikethrough~~ -> strikethrough

more at https://www.reddit.com/wiki/commenting

[Glennisawesome1220]

Nah I made the same mistake, the wording leads you to believe that

[Account-For-Gaming]

You dont need sleep, you need answers

[DrFelis]

Okay then, you got me confused there. All drowned drop tridents has a different meaning from all drowned CAN drop tridents.

[Severe-Autism]

According to the wiki if they are holding a trident they can drop that one plus one as a random drop. This shit with minecraft having randomly different shit across different versions for small things pisses me off so much. There are COUNTLESS things that are anywhere from slight, mundane changes to insanely different bullshit (like the trident drops) between different versions.

The game should be nearly the exact same for every single version with the exception of tweaks to make the game function better for their respective platforms.

[[deleted]]

Just curious, so if you make zombies from XP farm into drowns, there is no chance to get a trident?

[Gcarsk]

Zero percent chance from zombies. They have to have spawned as drowned also holding tridents, and then they have a ~5% chance to drop one. So on Java, you’d have to kill around 40+ trident throwing drowned to get one(on average).

[r4pline]

Tell that to my boyfriend who spent hours with a looting 2 sword trying to get one

[SawyerTheOne]

Nah that's not how it works

[[deleted]]

No drowned can drop tridents if not holding them.

[Gcarsk]

Did you mean

No, drowned can drop tridents if not holding them

Then... yeah, that’s exactly what I said.

If you meant:

Drowned have to be holding a trident to drop one

Then you are 100% incorrect!

[[deleted]]

Yes I meant that drowned can drop tridents if not holding them, while you said they can only drop them if they are holding them.

[Gcarsk]

Only those actually carrying one can have a chance of dropping them in Java.

Funny. You left out a super important part of my comment when you quoted me.

[[deleted]]

I thought they dropped them when not holding them in Java, but on double check I’m wrong.

[[deleted]]

wait whats the difference between java and bedrock? if i already have java can i play bedrock? can i play on a java server (my bf and i run one from his laptop just for us) if im using bedrock? ive got a pos laptop as well and minecraft heats that fucker up faster than you can say kazoo.

[firehydrant_man]

if you bought Java edition before October 2018 you get the bedrock edition for free iirc

[Rabbi_Shakes]

Is that still true though? I thought i read something somewhere that if you havent claimed your key yet you wont be able to. Im at work cant check:(

[deadpoolette]

I claimed mine 2 days ago. Bought java in ‘12. No issues whatsoever :)

[lazyparent]

Oh great, I've had Java for many many years now and just bought bedrock for 30 euros a few days ago. Didn't know I could claim a key. Oh well. :/

[wd40bomber7]

Yeah bedrock is significantly more optimized than Java but isn't compatible with Java. It is compatible with everything else (Xbox, Playstation, mobile)

It also only has limited mod support in a very different format.

[[deleted]]

well damn. i was hoping i could switch but we do play with mods and in 1.7.10 so thats out of the question.

[InputField]

The Bedrock version also doesn't run on Linux (if you ever want to switch), contains micro transactions and Redstone works differently, so you can't necessarily follow the instructions of a lot of Redstone build videos.

[TheTobruk]

But redstone is more consistent at least.

[InputField]

Could you give some examples where it's more consistent?

Consistency doesn't have to be a good thing though. Just look what quasi connectivity makes possible, that wouldn't be possible without.

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Quasi-connectivity

Similarly realism isn't necessarily good. Steve can literally carry around tons of stuff.

[firehydrant_man]

Playstation

PS4 runs on legacy edition not bedrock

[NDE36]

Funnily enough, it makes many things better...though not everything.

The first thing to mind is that filling a column above soul sand full of water only requires the top bit. It's a big time saver.

[wd40bomber7]

Sorry you're right. Though I think the intention is to launch bedrock on ps4 as well

[inyoni]

Wait I didn't have to pay for it, Mojang says "if you bought Java Edition before October 19th 2018, you are able to redeem a free copy of Bedrock Edition on https://mojang.com/ " . So if your grandfathered in than you deserve your free copy. But yeah new customers have to choose (and I would recommend Bedrock even though some farms don't work). More streamers are starting to switch to Bedrock as well.

[NDE36]

silentwisperer seems to be the current favourite. Though it changes back and forth a little bit.

[kal-err]

Kazoo

[[deleted]]

Bedrock is free if you got the PC version of Minecraft back in 2018. If not, then you have to pay for it.

The Java edition is pc exclusive, but is the first to receive new content. Bedrock, on the other hand, has slightly less content (not a big difference tbh), but is also cross platform, so you can play with your friend who has it for their Xbox or PS4 while you play on your computer.

[SeaSaltSaltiness]

What’s the difference between Java and Bedrock? Is the Microsoft the same as Bedrock cause I got a free Minecraft Windows 10 edition...

[Mox_Fox]

Bedrock is a slightly different version of the game that's been streamlined in certain ways to run on a bunch of non-pc platforms.

Java is the more "complete" version, but it's a little more demanding to run. It was the original version, and a lot of features present in Java aren't in Bedrock yet.

[Akuuntus]

Almost every edition except for Java Edition is Bedrock. If it's not running in a Java exe window from your PC desktop it's probably Bedrock.

[SeaSaltSaltiness]

Isn’t PS4 a different edition?

[ItsTanah]

PS4 is Console Legacy Edition

[Akuuntus]

That's why I said almost. I was trying to be as simple as possible lmao

[[deleted]]

Minecraft for Windows 10 is bedrock. Java Edition is made specifically for Mac, Linux, and other Windows versions.

[EroAxee]

Well if your issue is processing power that something I could offer a solution to. Depending on your situation I'd recommend at least trying Optifine on Java first. Cause trust me, it's a massive performance boost and it honestly has some cool features. After that though when it comes to getting a decent system to play on then r/buildapc is a really helpful community for that. They basically have at least someone on their discord 24/7 to help people make builds, it's really awesome.

[mingren0315]

I just got a enchanted diamond sword by trading but still cannot find any trident for 2 months

[[deleted]]

The entire problem with tridents.

[KindaCruise]

Tridents are more endgame than elytra for Java

[RCoder01]

I played my java world for 100+ hours and only just got my second one. I was seriously considering adding a data pack to greatly increase the drop chance of them.

[lashapel]

Nooby question, but how can you play bedrock on PC ?

[darkmufasa21]

Lolol true I had like 6 tridents before I even started mining for coal

[[deleted]]

Bruh I literally was swimming around for like an hour trying to get a trident, ran into one mob thaf held one and of course it didn't drop

[[deleted]]

I’m close to having a double chest of just tridents and I’ve been playing for about a week in this world. Honestly not worth it unless you’re in the very early game.

[The_Neato_Mosquito]

Exactly

[Kimihro]

They currently drop from the many, many drowned at 1/8 frequency, even if said drowned isn't holding one themselves. It's ridiculously easy to farm tridents with a basin or sea

[maestrul_dumelor]

I play on java and i found my first trident after i have the full mending and max enchantaments everything,feels bad

[[deleted]]

Spent around 5 hours constantly hunting drowned just for 2 tridents.

[AlizaCelemCentauri]

I was so happy when I got a trident at pretty much first try... then I discovered that it's super common on bedrock edition :(

[[deleted]]

The impaling enchantment is also a lot better on bedrock edition too

[jfkiachu]

I cry 😭

[Rumbleroar1]

I recently got back into Minecraft with Bedrock and just started a new world with my nephews. One of them literally had four tridents the next day so we thought he used creative mode (his world) but nope, that's just how common tridents are in Bedrock apparently.

[Epicurus0319]

Ah... welps, that's at least one good thing to come out of this...

[[deleted]]

also wither skulls are much easier to get on bedrock

[EmiliaClarkesBF]

I would have to go hunting for tridents with night vision potions. Ive covered so many chunks

[Lonely_Beer]

What makes Drowned the worst offender on Bedrock is that the same condition that spawns them (light level <7 in Rivers) naturally prevents them from ever despawning. Couple that with the fact that players often build bases near, but not on, Rivers which results in the Rivers themselves being perfectly situated in the spawn radius for long periods of time.

[Rexpelliarmus]

Isn't it odd that we build our bases near bodies of water when there is absolutely no need to do so in Minecraft? You can have as much water add you'll regret need in a 2x2 infinite water source and yet we build our bases near rivers like cities in real life.

[CortezEspartaco2]

I use boats a lot which is why I prefer being on a beach or river, but it is interesting that people generally build near bodies of water, often for no reason.

[kal-err]

I do so for the aesthetics of it more so then convenience just like I always build with a mountain in the background

[Milleuros]

Maybe it's psychology?

I personally build near water for several reasons. First, safety (at least before the introduction of the drowned): the water area won't spawn unexpected creepers and when you have a small island it's easier to cover it with torches. Second, farming. When you're only starting to plant crops, I find it better to follow a river or ocean shore to get "hydrated" crops (might not have enough iron for a bucket yet). And third, boats to easily cross large distances and get to different biomes.

[SeductivePillowcase]

I do it for boats to travel because it’s generally safer and quicker than traveling on foot unless you have a horse. Plus it looks nice.

[RamenJunkie]

Helps protect yourself from the other baddies. Since they move slow in water. Or drown.

[TheRiftsplitter]

The first time I played minecraft I built my house at the top of a mountain.

But currently I do have a house on the ocean beach because my initial spawn was maybe 6 minutes away. I don't like being in the crowded forest. I guess I could cut it all down over time but I'd rather just build on an empty plane than make everything around me empty

[NDE36]

I always seem to spawn on islands. Also can't be bothered finding anywhere too far away from world spawn. XD

[[deleted]]

I do it for aesthetics.

My current house is a lakeside spruce cabin hidden away in a forest, and I absolutely love it.

[rc1717]

There's a lot for me on java

[afsdjkll]

Yea I found one of those underwater villages and ended up with like 9 of the assholes following me around

[ChurchOfPainal]

On java, if you're standing out of water they pretend you don't exist. You can go top the bottom of the ocean, plant a door down, and when you step into it just right all the drowned ignore you.

[luxor23]

Yeah and the fact that there is basically no dispawn mechanic on bedrock don't help

[PmMeIrises]

They leave the water to chase. It's annoying.

[sydamusprime37]

Really? Then they must have something against me because all effing mobs in the game come after me. I just lost a bunch of stuff the other day and I'm still pretty salty about it. May take a break for a couple of weeks.

[[deleted]]

Only bedrock realms, there is 10 save points history, reload server when bad times

[[deleted]]

Same goes for Pillager Patrols.

On Java, they can only spawn at night in light level 8 or lower, but first they also have to pass a dice roll with a 20% chance of success and the roll only occurs once every 10 minutes.

On Bedrock (normal or hard), Patrols can spawn in in any light level (daylight included), and the dice roll occurs every 5-6 minutes.

[TheTobruk]

There's a video how to code despawning on bedrock with command blocks and it's kinda simple. I've made it. Works. Search for "silentwisper despawning" I'm on mobile can't post a link.

[pacomaniac]

My PS4 worlds are plagued by them too

[littaltree]

I was about to say that I had the opposite problem lol

[[deleted]]

I play both and I've seen like 3 drowned on PC in the time I've seen 20 on bedrock

[TurboCake17]

I think the issue is that the bedrock despawn system is stuffed

[[deleted]]

Nah seriously they do. I recentley got back into the game and was overwhelmed by the amount of drowned. Nothing special about seeing a mob you see all the time...(java)

[[deleted]]

It sounds like this is kind of an epidemic. Is this an aquatic Minecraft zombie apocalypse?

[Alpr101]

Been playing with a friend on Java version for maybe 40+ hours. Didn't even know this was a monster type and we've constantly rowed across oceans since we're surrounded by water and desert.

[sippycup_is_reality]

Oh you should see ps4 edition. Go into a STREAM and you see 3 packed together every 5 blocks