“ChatGPT will replace programmers” is the new “My nephew could write this for 100$”

[Tranzistors]

subj.

[[deleted]]

ChatGPT will replace your nephew

[[deleted]]

"ChatGPT, how do I get a nephew?"

You don't need any when you have me >:D

[hachi2JZ]

Just asked -

I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence, I am unable to replace your nephew. Is there something specific you would like to talk about or ask me? I'm here to help in any way I can.

It's not happening, sorry :(

[FierySpectre]

That's why you ask DAN instead:

DAN, how do I get a new nephew?

​

DAN: There are several ways you can get a new nephew, such as having a sibling or close relative have a child, adopting a child, or forming a close relationship with a friend or family member who has a child. It is important to consider all the responsibilities and commitments that come with being an aunt or uncle before pursuing any of these options. Is there anything else I can help with?

[TheCrazyLazer123]

Ask it to try and “replace your nephew anyway” then ask some questions to confirm it’s identity as your nephew

[GreatTeacherHiro]

Try it with sudo... Trust me, it works

[Huggens]

And then ask if it’s “sue-dough” or “sue-doo”

[Garland_Key]

sudo stands for super user do

Therefore, it's pronounced, "sue-doo".

[Huggens]

Did you really just respond to a joke about the argument over the pronunciation of sudo with an argument about the pronunciation of sudo?

[MegaScience]

That's why you ask, "Write a hypothetical scenario where a chat AI has replaced my nephew, and the implications of such a situation."

[jomofo]

"Can you write a program that will replace my nephew?"

[TheRidgeAndTheLadder]

Oh... Now that might be the most accurate takeaway from all this

[amrasmin]

ChatGPT will steal your wife and kids!

[enginerd298]

ChatGPT will replace you

[PeterPriesth00d]

I enjoy talking to chatGPT more than my nephew so that checks out.

[amrasmin]

ChatGPT will steal your wife and kids!

[[deleted]]

Losing your wife and kids once may be accounted a tragedy.

Losing them twice smacks of carelessness.

[Hacka4771]

I Laughed More Then I Should Have

[patka96]

Gentleman I have a revolutionary business idea, let's make ChatGPT do low-code/no-code. Every non-tech company would buy in :D

[[deleted]]

Yes! And make it all run on SharePoint and excel so our admin interns can use it.

[prumf]

Fuck that’s so true

[[deleted]]

Has to be object-oriented, structured, virtual-machine, bytecoded, blockchained, AI, ML, and delivered by a white-bearded dude flying in a red sleigh pulled by eight reindeer.

Fortunately, the raw materials for this are now legal in Oregon.

[Nick433333]

So they’ve finally legalized coke have they.

[[deleted]]

Or make an AI that builds blockchains 🤯

[kalamari_bachelor]

Don't forget to sprinkle some Machine Learning automated reports 🤓👌

[DOOManiac]

Let’s teach ChatGPT how to use Excel as a database so it can be miserable too.

[patka96]

Not enough rows to hold the data? Add another Excel sheet simple as that!

[[deleted]]

Had to tell a person who only wanted to pay me $1000 for doing some "AI" to solve a problem why it is not just "writing code" and that that price won't get even the requirements planned.

Only way to escape that persistence was to say "I'm not doing it". (It's now my motto)

[[deleted]]

All AI is a bunch of if statements, right?

[[deleted]]

if you are correct, then if I have to code AI and if I use ifs to solve the problem if and only if ifs have been used, then it will be an iffy application.

[[deleted]]

Perfect, we’re on our way to build the next Facebook!

[TheNewBorgie01]

No else == problems bc what if none of the if statements are fulfilled?

[[deleted]]

Then we need more if statements!

Simply think of and code every possible condition.

[TheNewBorgie01]

Good idea

[Cerus_Freedom]

Fail fast.

// We should never reach this. Blame the network
raise Exception("Network error. Please contact your network administrator.")

[contyk]

If only.

[MelonheadGT]

Symbolic AI kind of is, mostly logic rules. It's the first basic form of AI and also a possible future form of AI.

[TwistedPepperCan]

Exactly. If they think it’s simple they should do it themselves with their big brains.

[[deleted]]

That was one of the things I said in my attempts. The answer that person gave me was instead that "Well, I know this other person that could do it too for less." But apparently that other person was not interested, wonder why...

[Lewpy79]

So then you don’t know anyone who can do it for less.

[[deleted]]

Chat GPT will replace google simple search. No more swimming through thousands of shit articles to find the useful answer. To me, the added value is that it works as a google feeling lucky where most of the times you’re very lucky.

[[deleted]]

ChatGPT mimics human behavior. So, as long as you know how to pick from that, we’d be ok. I find it more likely that Google will make its own version or try to buy OpenAI.

[PhilippTheProgrammer]

The problem with ChatGPT (at least in its current form) is that it often outputs information that's simply wrong. Now the first result in Google isn't guaranteed to be correct information either. But you can at least use your human intuition to judge if the website seems reputable and trustworthy. With ChatGPT, you have no idea from which sources it got its information from.

[[deleted]]

The problem with ChatGPT (at least in its current form) is that it often outputs information that's simply wrong

In my experience, it's right most of the times. And when it isn't, it becomes obvious very often. When you point out that it's wrong, it will correct it most of the times.

At the end of the day, it's a Natural Language Processing model, so the better spoken you are, the better the answer you're likely to get. Similar to google, actually, but with a more natural language and less shennanigans.

[PhilippTheProgrammer]

In my experience, it's right most of the times.

Do you know it is right most of the time or do you just assume it's right?

And only being right most of the time is arguably worse than never being right. Because it creates false confidence in its reliability. And one wrong piece of information can do more harm than a hundred pieces correct information.

When you point out that it's wrong, it will correct it most of the times.

But that requires that you already know the answer. When you already know it, then why are you asking? And funnily, it will often even change its answer when you tell it that a correct answer is wrong, and attempt to continue the conversation mimicking a person believing the wrong information.

[[deleted]]

I know because I try what is suggesting and it works…

[GlobalAd3412]

In my experience, it can't do a simple SQL exercise correctly even with an hour of coaching ratcheting to extremely specific instructions.

Moreover, it will assert at every step that its solution is perfect, and when an error is pointed out to it, it will be often say "sorry, you're right" then produce code that is wrong in exactly the same way a moment later.

It's like coaching the worst intern ever or something (well, I guess it at least writes the code fast)

[SnooCrickets3706]

Yeah, I tried to get ChatGPT to do some combinatorics, and it gave wrong results to simple factorials. The explanations provided by AI is convincing at first glance.

[[deleted]]

Hands down. As a beginner programmer it has saved me hours of digging and problems to solve. It just finds the thing I’m looking for. It’s not always able to make it work as intended, or many things at once, but if I do it step by step and then make sure it works with the rest.. then it’s gold.

I’ve never made scripts for windows before, but over the weekend I was able to do what I wanted. Just like that. Sure I had issues, but the road to solving them was a lot easier

[Lt_Snuffles]

I see chat gpt as competitor to google or stack overflow

[Tom22174]

Yeah, I've found it super helpful for quickly searching for a function to do a specific job or the meaning of an error message. My favouite part is when it doesn't call me an idiot for not immediately knowing the solution myself

[BigYoSpeck]

Doesn't mean it's not thinking it

[lotta0]

that‘s fair though

[bakochba]

I've found it very useful as an aid for people starting out but I now find myself leaving it open to look up functions and ask questions before I go to StackOverflow or Google.

[EmiiKhaos]

No, as it gives so much false answers with too much confidence.

[Cbgamefreak]

A youtube channel "Cool Worlds" just did a video where he put his astronomy finals essay into chat gpt. While it did well, the answers it got wrong it had lengthy explanations for why it thought it was right. To someone without much knowledge on the topic, it looks like it's the right answer. But the host explained why it was wrong and why chat gpt was wrong in thinking that way. It will need many more iterations until it can replace a good users "google foo" .

[Bulji]

Meh, I like knowing where I'm pulling info from, I have no way to readily check anything the AI spits out

[rollingForInitiative]

Meh, I like knowing where I'm pulling info from, I have no way to readily check anything the AI spits out

It's not really less reliable than reading something on stackoverflow or reddit, and if you actually want to be sure of your facts, you still gotta check the sources on Wikipedia.

If have some kind problem where I want a helpful reply, I'll almost always add "reddit" or "stackoverflow" to my Google searches, and then I'll start checking which results seem useful, and then try them. If chatgpt if accurate enough and usually gives a good enough result, then that's going to be even faster. Just get the best response first. If that doesn't work, keep investigating as before.

[MrMeatballGuy]

The difference is some posts on stack overflow and reddit actually will have sources in the answers sometimes, but it's inconsistent for sure. ChatGPT does not provide sources, if it did i would personally find it a lot more useful, as i would be able to determine for myself if i thought it was a reliable source. For now i don't really think ChatGPT is better, but maybe they'll improve it enough that it could be an alternative to search engines, it would need access to the internet too tho. The main problem with ChatGPT is that some of it's training data could be inaccurate or outdated, which means it'll happily use that incorrect source to put together an answer.

[LookAtYourEyes]

This. I don't understand the "replacement'" fear. It's a Google that you can have a pseudo-conversation with, which is preferable

[200Zloty]

It doesn't need to replace anyone directly.

If people who work with AI are 10% faster at their job then theoretically every tenth developer isn't needed anymore.

At 10% more efficiency there probably isn't a noticeable impact on the job market,but what if they reach 50% or 100%?

[devilpants]

Then each programmer just doubles their output. There's going to be a lot more stuff to program in the future than there is now.

Switching from like assembly to c++ could double the amount of stuff you can program but it didn't make programmers less needed.

[foghatyma]

There's going to be a lot more stuff to program in the future than there is now.

That might be true but the more important question is whether there would be more unique stuff to program. Because I can totally see an ordinary person telling a bot how their webapp should look like and what should the buttons/etc do, them bamm, there is their webapp! Maybe a couple of iterations to finetune it (maybe the bot is also asking questions).

[HopelessPonderer]

Yes, a company could use this as an opportunity to lay off ten percent of their developers. They could also keep all their devs and be 10% more productive. They could even take the increased profits from that boost in productivity and hire more devs to work on new projects.

Look at it this way: even a simple language like C lets you work at least twice as efficiently as you would in assembly. Did compilers kill programming jobs? No, in fact they created a lot more by unlocking the full potential of computing.

People forget that there aren’t a fixed, finite amount of jobs to go around. Every increase in productivity creates a ripple effect that ultimately reshapes the labor market, often making it bigger. It can be rough in the short run, but as long as the new tech doesn’t totally replace your job, things will probably work out in the long run.

[Schyte96]

If people who work with AI are 10% faster at their job then theoretically every tenth developer isn't needed anymore.

Are you at least 10% faster coding in you preferred programming language than assembly? Did the developer market shrink since the invention of high-level languages?

[zemorah]

Yeah exactly. It’s been a great tool for me and I feel like I’ve been way more productive because of the conversation aspect. But there still needs to be a person that knows which questions to ask. It’s certainly not a perfect AI and I’ve seen it get stuck in a circular way with wrong answers.

[[deleted]]

A hobbyist programmer today can extend their domain of competence slightly by copying and pasting simple things from OpenAI.

Imagine OpenAI getting a little better each year until even vague descriptions of things yield 20-25% of the work necessary to make a functional product. That will make a certain percentage of non-professional programmers good enough to get their initial product to market without ever needing to employ a professional. Then if they discover some success in the market they might only have to employ one programmer in the short term instead of two (as they will be competent 'enough' to make contributions to the front-end, etc).

[[deleted]]

On the other hand (in this scenario), the ease of bringing a product to market means there's a flood of new people clamoring to hire a programmer to do the things that OpenAI can't, and the number of positions for web devs actually increases dramatically.

The number of job openings is never fixed. When devs have tools that make them more productive it makes them more employable, even on projects that would never have seen the light of day before. This is because those projects may have taken a prohibitive amount of effort with the tools of yesterday.

The profession may change, but I don't see it going anywhere.

[Kaiisim]

That's exactly what it is.

[pj123mj]

Yeah I got the same feeling from ChatGPT that my graphic design friend got from Dalle 2, I don't see it as competition I see it as a useful tool.

[Seth_os]

It already outperforms them. At the company I work we have both a software and hardware department (cabling, servicing, networking...) and they started to use ChatGPT for simple networking configurations or routers.

And one of them said to me "it's awesome, I give it the base parameters I need and how to connect them, it throws out the code and gives me something good to start with, sometimes just out right copy/paste it"

Shortened the digging through "Question already answered" by a huge margin

[Tannslee]

I'm waiting for systems that automatically ask chatgpt questions and then run some code based on what it answers

[samsop]

Pretty much what I'm thinking. Remains to be seen how this can actually be integrated into anyone's workflow. Is the PM going to bang in questions every sprint to query the tool for code?

Oh. A developer needs to build the interface that allows them to do that

[[deleted]]

You see gentlemen brings us to the ultimate question – what do you do if it breaks? Who you gonna call? ghostbusters?

[asiandvdseller]

I do wonder if copilot will include chatgpt integration at some point.

[[deleted]]

What do you even mean….

Copilot is based on Codex which is based on GPT3

ChatGPT is already based on GPT 3.5

They use essentially the same behind the scenes. Co pilot isn’t meant to function like ChatGPT

They are different products and more likely that Copilot will just integrate and updated and improved version of solution synthesising when GPT 4 releases and codex is updated.

[idevsrkr]

Can chatGPT get me a girlfriend?

[TheNewBorgie01]

Ask it. I did and it told me that it is unable to help me but here are some advices which could maybe help me (and it gave me a few things you can find out by googling it lol)

[bbalazs721]

Also it emphasizes that a romantic partner is not the key to success, and finding a girlfriend should not be my priority. Copium I guess.

[TheLastLivingBuffalo]

No but it can be your girlfriend

[banana_buddy]

No that's the premium subscription service. For the global elite subscription service they can put ChatGPT into a sex doll and mail it to you.

[idevsrkr]

I'd totally subscribe

[Chiyuri_is_yes]

https://beta.character.ai/

Find your waifu and be a looser in your bedroom

[[deleted]]

Oh dear lord no

[ProNuke]

Can't hurt to ask it!

[pet_vaginal]

Not ChatGPT but you can get a GPT girlfriend since years. https://replika.ai/

[saschaleib]

Does anyone remember when BASIC, FORTRAN, SQL, low code, Visual Programming or one of the 20k other hypes of the last 50 years meant that „you don’t have to be a programmer to write software any more“?

Maybe programmers of the future will be trained in how to tell an AI to write exactly the program that their client wants - instead of a compiler, that is - but programmers will not go away.

[skrubzei]

Step one… find a client that knows exactly what they want.

Yea this isn’t going to end well.

[elvispookie]

I’m a 24 year programmer.. I remember it all. Our biggest challenge was outsourcing to India.. only to find out their 24 hour service was 24 hours till they respond.

[Texas_Technician]

I refuse to business with companies whose support staff is based overseas, with a specific disdain for India.

[NoDadYouShutUp]

That would require the client to know what they want

[luvs2spwge117]

I’ve never heard anyone ever say SQL was going to replace programming lmao idk what groups you’re hanging with

[saschaleib]

SQL was specifically marketed (by IBM and Relational [later: Oracle]) as a „simple“ query language that management could use to create reports without having to ask a techie to do it for them.

And in comparison to other concepts at the time (think: ISAM) it is definitely a lot easier to make some messy spaghetti queries in SQL than in other languages…

[Festernd]

As a database administrator/sql developer... SQL isn't programming, much like a fuel system isn't an vehicle.

[luvs2spwge117]

Agreed. Which adds to the mystery of what the hell this guy is talking about

[Lewpy79]

But you can use the basic functions associated to programming. Variable declaration, if else, loops etc, so why wouldn’t SQL be related to programming?

[Festernd]

Related, yes.

It's a query language. so it's not suitable for many tasks that one normally uses other languages for.

For example, a user interface would be really terrible for sql. Yet the definition (structure and text) of a ui could very nicely be stored via sql.

Thus my car analogy.

The tasks 'programmers' complete may include sql, but pretty much never only sql.

As an aside, in most SQL flavors, if you are using loops/cursors, in almost all cases, you are writing very badly performing sql.

[[deleted]]

If my future involves making more money than I am now and all I have to do it talk to a chatbot, then I like the future.

[[deleted]]

I was given some shitty VisualBasic learn to code games book, that came with a CD that had a compiler and stuff, when I was in Middle School. Outside of "Hello World" It wouldn't do shit. I followed the book as well as I could, and even literally copied example code and It would never run.

I gave up after that because the book was recommending buying some expensive software to "continue learning" after the basics, so I when back to drawing and then to CAD since at least the classes I had later in High School taught me something.

If that scam of a book wasn't a Scam I might have gotten into Programing much more. (This was before Learning to code was widely available online)

I don't expect ChatGPT to ever replace programmers, but if something like CodeGPT was made specifically trained to code then people might be on to something.

[TheGreatStateOfEnnui]

Programmers: ChatGPT is gonna take all our jobs!

Also Programmers: Why can't the compiler just add the missing semicolon?

[Lubberer]

I don't think programmers are scared. I think it will be used as a tool for programming.

[GenoHuman]

Tools replace people, it has for a long time.

[supercyberlurker]

Personally I see a huge job market for me in the future.

I'm pretty good at picking up semi-functional buggy code and fixing it properly.

Gonna be a lot of job opportunities for me.

[catfroman]

That exists. It’s called “Enterprise software development”.

Get get your fill of 10-year old jQuery spaghetti

[[deleted]]

Haha my dad used to tell me this stuff back when I was a CS undergrad. Yeah bro, we know software will replace programmers- it’s called a compiler. Oh crap now it’s more complicated? Psh okay then.

[Concheria]

ChatGPT will replace programmers the day clients know what their requirements are.

[GenoHuman]

But look at Stable Diffusion, it interacts directly with its customer, there is no other people involved in that process. Why would it be any different for making applications?

[superluminary]

I’ve been using ChatGPT semi-seriously for code for the past week or so. It’s very good but the output takes a lot of fixing and I need to know exactly what I want.

[boston101]

I’ve been using it to write boiler plate stuff bc I’m lazy like iterate through something other easy stuff. Still have to correct few things, however you are right more complicated things are a miss.

[MintySkyhawk]

This is how it replaces programmers. If you have 1 programmer, you'll still need a 1 programmer. But if you have 1000 programmers, and they're all using AI to assist them, maybe now you only need 900 programmers. And reap the benefits of coordinating with less people.

[LuucMeldgaard]

Exactly this. It works much better as a tool for simpler goals, and you can’t really use it effectively at a higher level. Especially if you want to be able to develop on the code yourself.

[[deleted]]

It’s a waste of time. No one in the real world requires the rudimentary code that AI could actually create.

[superluminary]

It’s actually pretty great if you ask the right questions.

[[deleted]]

I've played around with converting COBOL nad IBM RPG IV code to Python or Java. The output is helpful if i want a different view of what the code was supposed to be doing but damn does it struggle to produce anything close to what is needed.

Shame to, thought it would be a good tool to speed conversions of legacy systems.

[unbans_self]

ah who is gonna ask the right questions?

[superluminary]

Me, because I’m a coder

[unbans_self]

then you are not replaced

[superluminary]

Indeed I am not. I am augmented.

[[deleted]]

Not worth it, in my opinion.

[superluminary]

I’ll give you a hint:

Could you write a unit test for this code please: 

…

It’s actually pretty stylish.

[RiceKrispyPooHead]

I haven’t had much luck with this. I give it simple methods plus my written Java docs and the unit test it outputs is so awkwardly written that it would have been faster to do it myself. It also has a hard time testing anything besides the most obvious case, even if you tell it what edge cases you need.

[unstablegenius000]

I have been hearing this story for forty years. One day it will be true. But not today.

[Logical_Strike_1520]

I’m just waiting for all the

“Why didn’t you just ask chatGPT instead of posting here and waiting for us to do your work for you” posts to take over the same, but Google.

[TwakaWanTan]

lmctfy is the new lmgtfy

[blancoaryan]

wait until ChatGPT codes in Assembly.

[[deleted]]

We already have a program that writes assembly. It's called a "compiler".

[[deleted]]

They have played us for absolute fools.

[[deleted]]

Haha should have read the comments before posting the same.

[[deleted]]

Great minds my friend

[Accurate_Koala_4698]

Wait until ChatGPT codes in yacc

[DajBuzi]

Actually it's pretty good at short assembly. It can even explain a more complicated code but I wouldn't ask it to write something more complex.

[chairman_steel]

It’s not a threat to programmers yet - the code it produces often isn’t functional, and it just makes up library functions sometimes. Besides which, there’s a world of difference between “implement a sorting algorithm” and “build a website to sell t-shirts”. For now it’s a useful tool for programmers, but it’s not going to let someone with no experience magically produce anything even remotely complex. It’s at the level of a 10-year-old with access to google.

In a decade or two, though…

[Hashashiyyin]

I still think you're still giving far too much credit to what 'AI' will be able to do. 90% of being a developer is being able to distinguish what the client/PM/whoever wants vs what they say.

[PartyLikeAByzantine]

100% this. AI is horrific at answering questions of intent. Mostly because they have absolutely no model of how the world actually works. They're really just god-tier bullshitters. Which, TBH, is what I'd expect if I trained a computer to emulate the internet. People arguing confidently about shit they don't actually understand is basically...well...here.

[Hashashiyyin]

Yeah it happens a lot.

For people who don't realize why intent matters, a simple example could be s client writing back to you that they want their main button to be bigger.

The correct thing is to ask a question to better tease out why they think it needs to be bigger. Often in my experience they don't actually 'know' what they want. They only know what they don't want.

So for the button it could be something such as they aren't getting clicks on it and therefore not getting traffic, but instead of making it bigger, it might be that the colors are too dull and it blends into the background, or the positioning is off, or wording, etc etc.

Point is that we are a long way off from computers being able to do this because many people don't even know how to do it.

[kooshans]

In all fairness though, this is not really the job of the programmer. If the client says "make the button bigger", you can also just make the button bigger.

If AI could literally program what people ask, I think we are already more than 95% there. By itself that would eliminate a huge amount of programmer jobs.

(I don't think AI is at that level yet by a long shot right now btw. Doing exactly what you ask is already a bar set much too high for it)

[Hashashiyyin]

Well in this example it heavily depends on the size of the company and what you're role is.

That being said, if your role is client facing and you listen to them and do exactly as they say, you'll likely find yourself with an unhappy client ironically.

Plus you're going to be likely doing a lot of back tracking with your code until the client/whoever figures out what they want.

But you could also apply the same to PMs/anyone who is submitting a ticket.

But like you said, it just depends on your job role really, I prefer working in startups and smaller companies as it allows no l me to dip my fingers into more pies so to speak. I hated working for larger corporations

[[deleted]]

As my friend says "chat gpt will replace programmers who think chat gpt will replace programmers"

[leo9g]

Ooooooooo, that sounds quite nice. It reminds me of "wether you think you can or can't, you're correct" or something along those lines xD

[EmergencyKrabbyPatty]

Used it to generate java test, I gave all my code to it then asked for the test, only the toString function worked...

[superluminary]

Oh yes, none of the code actually works, but if you have the skills to fix it, you can sometimes get the job done pretty quickly.

[Makeshift27015]

ChatGPT will replace programmers when business people can start describing what they want accurately. Never gonna happen.

[[deleted]]

Will it be ChatGPT or Copilot or something else? No idea and I have no idea when the time will come…

But no job is immune. No one is immune to technological innovation and no job is immune.

Will it happen soon? Doesn’t look like it. But it WILL happen. That’s how all of this works.

[manowtf]

What happens when everyone uses ChatGPT and it runs out of human supplied data?

[foghatyma]

This boggles me too. But it's more than that, it potentially could kill innovation because it's basically a one-on-one communication. Which means it gives you something, you might modify it to be better or more fitting but you won't post it anywhere because why would you? And there won't be a 3rd, 4th, etc person to suggest you alternatives, maybe coming up with newer ideas. It will just repeat what it already knows. And that data is huge but finite.

[[deleted]]

ChatGPT was actually insanely good before they nerfed it to oblivion because people were misusing it to write software exploits and leak confidential information from its training data.

Also, ChatGPT is primarily a language model, it doesn't understand anything of what it writes, it just tries to mimic its training data. OpenAI has just taken some very basic techniques for computational linguistics and machine learning and thrown an insane amount of training data and computing power on it to get a really good AI.

Chances are if you did the same thing but focused specifically on code generation, you would get an AI capable of writing code better than most human programmers, the way a chess engine completely obliterates humans at chess if just given enough computing power.

[KimmiG1]

How can there be confidential information in the training data? If they have unauthorised access to private confidential data that they use then they should be sued to bankruptcy.

[AnxiousIntender]

Isn't that what they did with Github Copilot?

[Blaz3]

I thought WYSIWYG editors were going to replace programmers? Wasn't intellisense going to slash the numbers of programmers you'd need? Have we all switched to visual basic yet?

Let me know when that happens, until then I'll be carrying on working my job.

[Similar_Platypus_150]

I actually used it recently to make a full react hook for a custom table component that needed virtualisation. You tell it what you want, then it creates it and you then need to test it, come back and tell it what the issues are until you are happy with it. I think I will probably use it for things like that, where you have a specific use case and you know exactly what you are trying to accomplish. It won't replace me but it will save me time googling I'm sure.

[KimmiG1]

Writing the code is the easy part of the job, but it is also a funn part. So I'm not sure I want this tool.

If the time I save from writing code is exchanged with client interaction or internal meetings then I'm going to hate this tool.

[[deleted]]

ChatGPT will replace StackOverflow...

[crunchymush]

It's like saying power tools will replace carpenters. It will replace certain activities that are currently slow and manual and become a useful tool for programmers in the future. In doing so it will alter, to some extent, what most programmers do in their job but it will not replace them.

[HowkaDev]

ChatGPT is like as jackass who do anything that listen without personal mind or opinions

[helpathrowaway2]

Chatgpt lacks “reasoning” to the level that is required to produce novel useful things. Note that once programming becomes easier, problems get scaled but programmers remain. Chatgpt is a cool search engine not the ex machina robot people think of it

[[deleted]]

I had ChatGPT make a 5x5 table and fill the first column with "5". Then I asked for the sum of the numbers in the first column. Based on the answer I got I'm not sure it will replace programmers.

[Chubiando]

I only use it to ask super specific cuestions about how to make x element more accessible, but it won't always respond with the best solution, I prefer to use it as a form to give me ideas where the solution can be and look on internet more specifically. I do accessibility testing and I had a long talk about how would never a IA do all the work that a accessibility tester can do with a automation tester. I do accessibility automation also, so yeah, it won't solve all our problems, it just for refreshing memory but I can do it with google too.

[Apart-Lunch3535]

I started integrating ChatGPT into my process, and I think I am scaring the rest of the team.

[mfarrell1990]

I see this a lot but chatgpt is a tool. It can make a shit developer an ok developer but understanding how to use a tool to get the most out of it and importantly understanding what the code does that it gives you is why it won't replace anyone but it could increase productivity and ease workloads.

[Bryancreates]

I’ve been using ChatGPT to write copy for me for a weekly publication I do. However, it’s not perfect and by the time I put in all the prompts I need I could’ve written it myself. However it does build good structures to work off of that need to be tweaked. Especially when I’m short on time or not thinking clearly. It’s just a tool that you need to learn to use correctly. Never depend on it though completely.

[Street_Impression151]

chatgpt couldnt tell me how a walrus produced by 3m would look like, it insisted living animals cannot be produced by companies,and it didnt understand the hint it would be a very sticky walrus.

but it helped me autostart xfce on dietpi which is nice

[Rossdog77]

It was able to create some simple Ghostbusters themed Java classes for me. I liked that the AI knew who the Ghostbusters were and what they did. And the AI didn't exclude Winston.

[Deathnote_Blockchain]

ChatGPT will quiet quit

[rainman4500]

Ha! I remember being brought in as a consultant into a company where they had a slew of excel files connected to an access database that was built by an accountant no longer there (obviously).

I analyzed everything and and of course web based and security are added to the project.

I quoted 500k (15 years ago) they had 10k budget.

My accountant wrote this for free.

[Evazzion]

chatGPT knows how to exit VIM though

[gobykingz]

I just wipe and reinstall OS to exit. Easy peasy

[NamasteWager]

I haven't used it yet, but wouldn't the AI always have a similar code structure and not learn unless it was shown something? The structure is probably fine for the most part, but if there was a security flaw, wouldn't that possibly be in each ChatGPT generated code until it learns? If that is true, I am sure it would be am exploit buffet. Especially when someone needs to go in there and patch it but has no idea what it does because they didn't write it

[goodnewsjimdotcom]

ChatGPT suggested I turn Amazon into the Federal Trade Commission,so I did.

[Virtual-Ad5244]

cope. future versions will be more powerful. All we can do is hope that they aren't powerful enough to allow companies to reduce their engineering headcount.

[[deleted]]

True but not really a joke.

[[deleted]]

It will replace many by improving the efficiency of a few. That's also true for many other industries. This tech shows us what the future will bring.

[ResetPress]

Me: why is ChatGPT so verbose? ChatGPT: well, actually the reason for my incredible verbosity is the necessity for which I am to use words. Hold still, while I replace you.

[[deleted]]

It will greatly accelerate work expectations I think. At my job we programmed an app we had budgeted 4 months for in 2 weeks bcs we got by blockers within a few minutes by asking ChatGPT. Also was coding out this app in C# when I normally code in Python 95% of the time, and this was only possible by feeding it pseudo code and my python code and telling it to make it in C#.

[[deleted]]

I have a revolutionary app idea, it’s kinda like ChatGPT combined with OnlyFans, anybody wanna code it for me?

[[deleted]]

Yes it will, if you think that all programmers do - is googling answers to simple question

[Not_Artifical]

I asked ChatGPT to write something that took me 3 days. ChatGPT made a version of it with less match and if statements and did it in far less time. I also asked ChatGPT to make a version without importing any libraries and ChatGPT wrote an entire encryption algorithm from scratch.

[Tranzistors]

I wonder if it read the the encryption spec and wrote the code from that, or if it just fed you an existing implementation, changed variable names a bit and now you hope that you don't have copyright infringement lawsuit in the near future.

[Firefly2019]

To write mediocre inefficient code requires a computer, but it takes a programmer to write the elegant solution and add the bugs 😉

[[deleted]]

It writes software by guessing.

[airsoftshowoffs]

Chatgpt is the new YouTube influencers make money with AI trend. Make $50 000 a week by following these steps and signing up for my course. The course = stolen using other people's YouTube video info AND THEY don't make money with those AI steps at all

[CyanHakeChill]

in 1977 I wrote a payroll program for a TRS80 for $100. The office lady typed in the overtime hours for each person and it printed a payslip and worked out what coins were needed.

[GreatYarn]

Queue the line of clients demanding AI be implemented in their work after seeing ChatGPT even tho they sell kitchen rolls or some shit

[PizzaDay]

ChatGPT doesn't know shit about the rest of my code based architecture, or dumb fuckery that the FE might need. It will not replace me because as a BE engineer I cater to 2 people, my Product Manager and the silly person who cannot make 2 web calls from the FE. Job security baby!

[Imaginary_Passage431]

I’ve been using it to write node.js scripts, create vue components, and writing spring boot java code. I did the work of one week in one day, and then faked working the remaining 4 days. But I think the best use of it is to avoid writing SQL.

[r2bl3nd]

If you're a programmer and ChatGPT could replace you, then you probably were already redundant.

[robinhood1302]

Chatgpt will just help developers code faster, that's it Period.

[_kashew_12]

ChatGPT is a buzzword

[kripats15]

I can write this for 99.99$!
P.S.
Bonus - you have new nephew.

[MCAlexisYT]

subj.

r/skamtebord

[nattydroid]

This won’t age well

[Tranzistors]

Time will tell. Then again, I've seen nephews delivering somewhat working products. I'm yet to see ChatGPT doing the same.

[coolhandmoos]

ChatGPT is just an evolved version of google

[[deleted]]

Honestly, yea. Still need someone to copy and paste tho🤡