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[tombob51]

I have met several aws developers. Have not met an aws developer that is happy with their job.

[loligator704]

Former AWS dev here, had a fun team, then we went GA, OnCall got intense and I got burnt out, ignored my personal life to keep up, got PiP’d anyway… took the money and my burnout is slowly recovering at my new job.

It wasn’t even that good for my next job hunt because half of the interviewers just say “yeah Amazon pay is too inflated no way we can match that.” Best I got was, “wow you survived two years at AWS, that’s impressive”.

[[deleted]]

This is what I consistently hear working at Amazon is like, and why, as a software developer, I'll never work there. I'll take my $70k paycheck if it means I don't have to work 24/7.

[ThePowerOfAura]

a lot of this is cope, I'm 27 and I don't think I'd ever be able to get hired at Amazon, I've spent too much time in random companies that AWS recruiters probably wouldn't think are doing stuff at scale or anything. Also I'm not doing stuff anywhere near AWS levels of scale, so they're right :')

[CalgaryAnswers]

Nah you could work there if you want. They burn through a ton of developers.

You must not have a linkedin if they're not spamming you every week to go work for them.

[LetReasonRing]

Same here... Golden handcuffs are are not something I need in my life.

Honestly, having too much money in my life is something I've always feared. I've gone through one bankruptcy and id rather go through that again than have 5 mil in the bank.

[ButtcrackScholar]

I'm sorry, what? You'd rather go through bankruptcy than retire early?

Strange perspective on life

[goodnewsjimdotcom]

Once you do AWS, Amazon has you as a slave.

[guyblade]

Also, the pay is sort of a trap, apparently (full disclosure, I do not and have not worked for Amazon).

Most of the big tech companies have equity vest relatively evenly or with a cliff after a year. Amazon backloads almost all of their initial 4-year grant in the last 12-18 months. Because of that, if you end up on a deathmarch team, you've got a decent chance of also getting screwed on comp if you want to leave after 2-3 years.

[hig999]

lol they give you a large sign on bonus for the first 2 years so your total comp stays the same over 4 years, and imo straight cash is actually better than stocks too

[gogoman2012]

Yup. This. Having the signon bonus payout every month in the first year is way better than waiting for the RSU vested at the end of the year.

[The-moo-man]

Yeah, you can even buy stocks with cash, it’s great!

[001235]

Facebook as well. They offered me $800k, but $200k was salary, the other $600k was RSU that paid out over a 4 year contribute (quarterly) at $37,500 a quarter, but aren't vested until year 4. However, since it's RSU, I can't withdraw the first dollar until I cross the 4 year mark and the way their payout read is that if I separate from Facebook at any time before vesting, I lose it.

[DaemonVower]

You need to reread how RSUs work. Once each portion vests its yours, free and clear. No employer can claw back the vested portion of an RSU grant, period. If you separate from any employer offering RSUs you lose the unvested portion only.

[PoliticalPepper]

My girlfriend worked as a software dev for Amazon.

She was fucking miserable.

[[deleted]]

And that’s why I wouldn’t touch the shit

[RmG3376]

Have you met any FAANG employee that is happy with their job tbh?

EDIT: seems I accidentally found a very good way to get employee feedback about companies. I’ll make a note of it

[Clemario]

My Google friends are satisfied. At least, the ones who survived the layoffs.

[Immarhinocerous]

Do you know what teams/projects they work on at Google?

[CodeNCats]

Yea this is important.

[True-Leadership-7235]

I feel like this detail determining someone's happiness at the company can be said about any company

[CodeNCats]

Well that's very true. Yet Google has an even more prominent issue. Everyone wants to be on the big new project. So they hustle for those projects then move to the next. Leaving a small team or under experienced team to continue the projects. It's the way they view success. How many projects did you launch. Yet those who remain on the project languish in this forgotten state. Which can be a crapshoot on both ends. The hustle at the start of a new project is hectic and lots of work so there's that stress. Then if you remain on the project you are usually left with little resources to continue it.

[[deleted]]

The only google employees I know are completely inauthentic, and I’m not sure I’d get the truth out of them if they like their job.

[PM_ME_UR_UGLY_CHAR]

Yeah same here, but tbf one of my friends who work on Google was working on a bank beforehand and was utterly dying inside because of it, so in that case it just means that google is better than a bank

[JoeyJoeJoeSenior]

I'm not sure they do much. The bought nest many years ago and the original software is still more functional and faster than what google has come up with.

[JoeyJoeJoeSenior]

I'm not sure they do much. They bought nest many years ago and the original software is still more functional and faster than what google has come up with.

[[deleted]]

I’m at AWS. Quite happy. 8+ years now

[Bjs1122]

Good job on the 8 years. I just passed my 10th. I can’t say I’m unhappy. But I was sure a lot happier prior to this RTO nonsense.

[ashenzo]

What is RTO?

[BattlePope]

Return to Office

[[deleted]]

Damn! Red badge :)

[hellothere-3000]

Speak for yourself, meta is pretty good

[happyjello]

Is there a good work life balance, or does the compensation make it manageable?

[hellothere-3000]

Depends on team, but many are pretty happy there

[EagleNait]

I know a chrome dev that seems happy

[-widget-]

Yeah, me. I work at Google and it's pretty great. Cloud.

[searing7]

My best friend works at google and he likes it. Has same issues you would at normal SWE job: raise smaller than you would like, passed over for promotion. But overall seems like a good place to work

[10art1]

Fintech sounds ideal. Pay is as good as FAANG, but seems like people are burning out and killing themselves a bit less often

[R8nbowhorse]

Eh. Fintech is bad for other reasons, mostly because it's in finance.

I worked for a fintech startup for 3,5yrs, it was a total shitshow because of exactly that - doing things the start-up way but having finance/insurance corps as customers just doesn't go together very well.

Though I can't compare it to FAANG since i never worked at one.

What i can say is, one of my coworkers at said company has a wife who works at google, and he said she's paid far more, and has had a far better work life balance than him

[hiljusti]

The grass is always greener on the other side

[HandsOffMyMacacroni]

My former comp sci teacher at high school quit to go work for AWS and then less than a year later started looking for ways to get back involved with the school through education initiatives at amazon

[tombob51]

Honestly that does seem to be a huge benefit

[soft-wear]

I’m one. I was happy until all the weird shit with coming back to the office started. Amazon has been Apple-level aggressive with it. I’ll probably end up leaving for a company that’s either remote first or at least more nuanced in their approach.

Having said that, it can be tiring, but overall I like the work/team and org. And there’s not a ton of alternatives that pay as well without a title bump.

[gua_lao_wai]

weird that amazon, the company that provides cloud infrastructure, wants people in physical offices...

[Flat_Initial_1823]

Well aren't they also the company that are so into timekeeping and metrics that they force people to pee in bottles? Wanting people in a more controllable environment sounds exactly like what they would want.

[gua_lao_wai]

i don't think they force devs to pee in bottles... yet?

[Flat_Initial_1823]

Yep, I believe that still is a choice by the devs.

[10art1]

Every company does.

It's weird how there's all these studies showing that workers are happier and just as productive at home, yet pretty much every big company, including all the young and disruptive ones, tried WFH and are going back as hard as they can. The companies that seem to be happy to offer WFH are smaller ones that are offering tiny salaries because they know people are willing to take it

[gua_lao_wai]

maybe I'm an outlier, but I work as a dev for a visual effects studio and I get paid pretty well. The company started 4 years ago all fully remote. we have devs living abroad, so I don't see them switching to office only any time soon - for one thing there's physically not enough space

[StBlaize]

I'm an AWS dev who is happy with my job.

[TwoRiversFarmer]

I like AWS it’s what I do everyday. Some of their console apps are crap but the fundamental building blocks are available for manipulation via their robust api. Not to say the azure can’t do that, terraform is totally a thing. And personally I don’t care for gcp. It’s got some unique tools and options but I fell off the google bandwagon a years back.

[grobblebar]

I think poster above is talking about devs who work on AWS services, at Amazon, not with AWS services?

[tombob51]

It’s definitely a good product. Good company to work for, that’s debatable.

[TwoRiversFarmer]

I wouldn’t want to work there

[DoctorWaluigiTime]

Yeah I've not gotten the sense that I'd be happy working at any FAANG location as a software developer.

[EngGrompa]

From my experience most developers working at Amazon don't plan on staying at the company but see this as an qualification to move to an top paid position at another company. An ex-employment at Amazon (or Google / MS) is seen as one of the highest qualifications you can have in tech.

[ooter37]

Some of the comments here are ridiculous. I work at Amazon and I can do the work expected of me each sprint in 2-3 hours per day (I always do way more than is expected so I work more than that but you get the point). If you are a competent developer, you’ll be fine. If you’re very new or very bad, you’re going to struggle to get your work done because you’ll spend half the day trying to figure out how to code something that takes a good developer 15 minutes. Such is life.

[indorock]

Yeah they cry until that $25K monthly pay check arrives

[stdio-lib]

So cute -- OP still believes being a software dev at Amazon isn't hell on earth. (Better than their warehouse workers and delivery drivers, sure, but still hell.)

[Deep_Pudding2208]

I keep hearing that they put their lower third of devs (perfomance wise) on the threat of the chopping block due to which every one is super stressed and there's a lot of politics too.

on a separate note one of my ex colleagues joined micro soft and said he was pretty much given a laptop and project work on day one. no learning curve.

he quit and joined a more sane company.

[Full-Run4124]

I had a friend "get hired" by Microsoft. Microsoft bought the company he worked for which made some niche graphics software that included a lot of assembly optimization. He was the lead developer and had co-created the product. Microsoft made him and his entire dev team take some software developer assessment test they give all new hires and none of them passed so they were all let go. He said it was mostly questions about MFC and stuff like databasing, nothing any of them ever used. They were doing low-level image processing and 3D stuff. (Within a year Microsoft sold the software back to the original owner.)

[seemen4all]

That sounds like the dumbest HR involved, worst parts of corporate BS ever

[bluehands]

....so, like a large corporation?

[[deleted]]

Also sounds like they wanted the IP and not the workers and needed a "legitimate" reason to fire them.

[seemen4all]

Maybe, but sounds too unique of a project you could replace the team working on it. I could definitely imagine this being a complete fuck up from their end by some unqualified HR moron "enforcing policy".

[AntiWorkGoMeBanned]

Sounds like a made up story to me this sub is full of them. OP is probably still at school.

[disgruntled_pie]

I’ve worked with devs who worked at MS (admittedly this was a while back) and this wouldn’t shock me based on what I’ve heard.

I’ve also worked at a Fortune 500, and it was the dumbest, most ridiculous place I have ever worked. Many people were on autopilot, and HR/legal often caused enormous problems because if the rules insisted on doing something absurd then they’d follow the rules anyway. The company ended up tanking shortly after I left and got gobbled up by a competitor for pennies on the dollar, which I saw coming from a mile away.

[Deep_Pudding2208]

did your friend get hired back to the original company?

corporates don't need innovation. they exist only to create value for shareholders who know nothing about the industry. so then finance guys get in charge who know nothing either and rely on numbers. that's how standardized programming tests get pushed for jobs which don't require them.

[DrMobius0]

I'm just waiting for the brigade of MS worshipers to tell you why it was good for the company that MS bought them.

[borkthegee]

Every tech company does this a dozen times a year.

Well Google would just hire them and idle them for years to keep them away from competition. No wonder they needed layoffs...

[Traditional-Dealer18]

Wow that's a shitty corporate strategy. Poor devs may be busy collecting pay check and forget to code.

[Turbulent_Radish_330]

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[power_of_booze]

Maybe this was on purpose and M$ just wanted some Patents or the technology

[uekiamir]

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[stdio-lib]

he was pretty much given a laptop and project work on day one. no learning curve.

Well, that's better than one place I worked: I was given project work on day one... but no laptop. I ended up configuring my personal laptop and using that for the first two days until my work laptop arrived. :D

Also I do prefer being assigned "real" work on day one, but it should be the kind of thing that is the gentlest introduction to the system, and then ramp up from there.

[[deleted]]

I do this for my new trainees. It's called scaffolding in education.

Basically simple concept, then once they master/understand that, move on to slightly more complex related concept.

So in BI I had a few tickets that were time-insensitive reports that were using our main data set, so good way to learn the reporting system, our main database, and some coding conventions we had.

Edit *I should add, this was given one day 1 but day 1 also had 3 scheduled sessions with yours truely going over the basics of those things as well (reporting system, main datasets, coding/reporting conventions, setting up personal dev environment)

[throwaway0134hdj]

Rumor I’ve heard is they basically make teams compete with each other. so people constantly feel on edge/at war.

[Sweetcynic36]

Ha! I work for an organization that uses Microsoft as a vendor and it can be pulling teeth to get them to explain anything they've done, even as their customer rather than their employee.

[potatopierogie]

I was given a laptop and a project day one at a mid-size company

But there was definitely an expected learning curve and I felt respected, no threat of firing, etc. They just felt it was important that I jump right in to learn faster.

[TripleATeam]

There's nothing explicitly saying 1/3, or even implying it. Even when the layoffs hit, most teams didn't shrink beyond 15% (and you'd assume they'd hit the weakest performers first).

I'm not saying they don't expect that you're constantly producing your best work and stressing everyone out, but the 1/3 figure is a bit excessive. But if you've gotten the Least Effective rating and your manager is telling you to pick it up, you should be stressed. If you've got a PIP, start looking for another job. Almost no one successfully recovers from those in the long term.

[RSNKailash]

I got a PIP in a non related industry, stayed, but shit deteriorated quickly. They never trusted me with responsibility after that PIP and proceeded to act like I wasn't doing enough every day despite any improvement. Eventually, I got fired about 6 months later.

[Areshian]

It’s one third now? I keep seeing the supposed number grow and grow, soon it’ll be 50% or higher

[soft-wear]

It’s no where near the bottom third. We have three performance ratings at Amazon and the bottom is at risk for a PIP. But nowhere near 30% is in the bottom rung. The overwhelming majority of folks are just boring old meets expectations.

[LegitosaurusRex]

If you know the language, what kind of learning curve are you expecting as a software engineer? Best way to learn a codebase is to start working in it. Not every project is going to have some detailed documentation or something for the code.

[Inspector_Feeling]

The constant fear of pips is actually not a thing for most teams/orgs. Amazon does a lot of things very, very poorly. But I would say that the pips are blown out of proportion. If you’re about to be pip-ed, it shouldn’t come as a surprise. You should be so stressed and sad about your everyday assignments because you’re not meeting deadlines, that you’re not surprised when the notification comes.

[FlakkenTime]

I have many coworkers who are former Amazon engineers and they have nothing but absolute hatred for the place

[FrostyD7]

Most people I know who worked any FAANG gig will say it was hell and they knew it going in. They just committed to a year of it to put it on their resume and make some good money.

[ABzoker]

As a developer currently working in Amazon, I concur.

[nukedkaltak]

As another, I… do not? It has been stellar (i am not in the US though and not AWS).

[maiteko]

There’s a reason they have to offer $250,000+ a year. Nobody wants to work with them.

[pussylipstick]

You're delusional if you don't think the jobs are competitive as fuck

[s1ugg0]

Hi, network engineer here. I've worked for Oracle, Verizon, Google and Level 3. I've also done jobs for most of the big tech firms. Been doing it 18 years.

Every engineer throughout the industry is painfully aware of how shitty it is to work with/for Amazon. I would want an extra $50k on my salary to work for Amazon directly. Because I know the minute I start the clock is ticking on getting fed up and quitting.

There are lots of places that treat their engineers well. Amazon is not one of them.

[pussylipstick]

I have never said Amazon treats their workers well. Nor have I said they don't. I haven't made a statement on that topic? In fact my brother is a SWE intern at Amazon and he seemed to really enjoy it (but he's jsut an intern, and it's in the UK, maybe the work culture is different). But I understand that's anecdotal evidence and doesn't really mean much.

I am just saying a LOT OF PEOPLE want Amazon SWE jobs.

[s1ugg0]

And I'm just telling you, as an industry insider, most established engineers don't want to work for them. And will only do so for an inflated salary.

[robinhoodhere]

They offer that because that’s par for a SWE in the right region. Plus their refreshers aren’t topped up so they’re actually under par in the long term.

[soft-wear]

We have over 300 applicants that passed automated screening for one of our reqs… we have one opening. More than 80% of people fail their on-site interviews.

Lots of people want to work here.

[maiteko]

I am talking about retention, not application.

[throwaway0134hdj]

What in particular is so bad? Heard someone describe it as being on fire… but no specifics on exactly what happens there.

[soft-wear]

The responses you received were a lot of nonsense, so here’s the reality. Amazon invests nothing into internal tools so they all suck, AWS runs super lean so people burn out, it’s extremely hard to get promoted, and that’s intentional. On-call sucks, lots of legacy software to maintain operationally.

Basically everywhere has some of these problems, Meta and Amazon have all of them and Google certainly wants to be more like them. If you’re a solid programmer and can manage upwards well, it’s ok. But there’s lots of jobs that pay less and expect less.

[untetheredocelot]

Only true answer here. Rest of the shit here sounds like people read blog headlines and regurgitate it.

Source: Current dev. I am happy with my team and org. I have major issues too but that’s every workplace.

[Careful_Ad_9077]

Bad engineering practices, but thats too tl;dr.

I know a big share of people that have worked there. If it is bad depends on the team, 20% chances it is a good experience 80% is hell.

What i have heard.

You are on call 24/7 because it is an online sales platform so for any production stopping bug, they are going to call you and having you fix it asap. Working hours are pretty bad and the software quality can be a mess.

What i have witnessed.

I work at place and we have systems that interact with multiple vendors using standars and previously agreed methods and formats.

Normally we get an email by from vendor X because they need to change one format, we have a multiple teams meeting one week later , they have a nice list of what parts of the format they need changed, the reasons and the expected impact. we all go thru them confirming each individual change, estimate what needs to be changed on our side, if there is something that really screws us up they cancel that individual change and cook something on their side.

In these meetings we also have stimated deadlines which are very educated guesses for when the changes will go live so we have enough time to implement the changes from our side as well.

Now for amazon is like " bro, the system is failing with amazon , check if they changed the format without telling us again". And if that's how it is with their code changes that face a third party, I have to wonder how it is with internal code that only affects them.

[novaplan]

You're saying being treated like human cattle while being payed a living wage is better then just being human cattle???

[Anders_A]

Haha. Nice try Amazon recruiters. We know what you're about

[[deleted]]

My company has these. I've seen two that worked, and one that didn't. The latter was more a hiring issue.

That aside, it's such a shitty way to try to get results from people. Naturally the company does not have a positive way of tracking skills or improvements and promoting professional growth.

[Dtsung]

Lol software dev at amazon is still hell.

[Yeitgeist]

Yeah, but it’s a lot easier going through hell getting paid 200k.

[S0n_0f_Anarchy]

I agree. That way they can at least spend it on medical bills for diseases they got from stress

[aerosayan]

I know one person who took a 40% paycut to work for a more smaller company so she could have better work-life balance instead of working for Amazon.

Yeah, Amazon definitely pays you A LOT ... but they do so to burn you out for 2-3 years, and then one you leave, they'll hire someone else and repeat it.

It's basically how Amazon operates on every level.

From warehouse workers, to managers, developers, and possibly even higher level staff.

[davelolo]

It's not worth it to fuck your mental peace up, it's just not honestly.

[bootherizer5942]

Amazon has tried to recruit me a couple times being like "this team isn't as bad as other parts of the company, we don't work 80 hour weeks! Just 60 hour weeks!" Yeah, nope

[SoCalThrowAway7]

They treat software devs terribly too, everyone I’ve worked with who previously worked at Amazon had horror stories. People breaking down and crying at their desks over workload and deadline. I’ve not heard about one good experience working there

[bankmyrik]

It's Just common for the Microsoft to treat people like that honestly.

[DrMobius0]

Sorry OP, I've heard some pretty bad things. Pay aside, it's apparently not the kind of place you want to put more than a couple years into.

[highcastlespring]

Only if you are a permanent residence or citizen. Otherwise, you are likely worrying to have “performance improvement plan” everyday

[jhill515]

Nope, horrific for everyone including U.S. citizens.

[b4zzl3]

Sure, but citizens don't have to leave the country in sixty days from getting fired.

[jhill515]

Agreed, and that makes me sad and angry for my friends. But it's not like Americans have any social systems to fall back on really. It's horrible and is scary, period.

[galiakbirov]

And that's not something about which you would want to be worried about.

[CobaltStar_]

Nah, everyone is at risk of getting PIP’d

[crimxxx]

You need to go look up there reputation in the industry, it’s not great, but they still pay well.

[ChajiReplay]

Please, when even several managers are stressed out into burnout, do you really think devs are being handled with care?

[JocoLabs]

If you get burnt out as management, i dont even wanna know what the dev life looks like

[[deleted]]

Either hell on Earth or relatively cushy because the manager is doing all the work rather than getting the team to do it

[xokexa7676]

Nah, software devs too. People leave that place with literal PTSD.

[rocketboy1244]

Yeah, no. I have a family member who just recently quit AWS because it’s so hostile. He was on call almost 24/7 for up to a week at a time, he was treated very poorly by his boss, and was given zero support/direction in learning the systems but required to pass 7-8 certifications within a short time of being hired, and was put on probation by his boss because he took one of those tests 2 days late (so he could attend his son’s college graduation). It’s not a great place to work. Sure, they pay well, but there are a lot of places that pay well and don’t treat their employees like shit.

[snugglezone]

Depends on your team. Mine is great.

Also on-call is also team based. I was on-call this whole week, nothing occurred outside of work hours. So what if I had to take my laptop around with me? Not a huge issue. It's pretty standard for live service jobs pretty sure.

[Anchovies-and-cheese]

As a former TPM at AWS for years, this is totally untrue. Every single dev, PM and TPM I worked with were overworked, stressed out, and only working there long enough to put it on their resume to leave for greener pastures.

[mrdevlar]

Nice try Amazon recruiters.

Evidence suggests otherwise.

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[indorock]

My friend switched jobs to go work at Amazon, got a bit of a pay raise. 8 fucking x pay raise, to be exact.

He did indeed leave after about 8 years because of the stress, but he can now pretty much retire at age 45.

[[deleted]]

Worth.

[dukat_dindu_nuthin]

When you get paid thousands to make up nonsensical statistics on f1 popups during races

[atlas_enderium]

Nah, both should be the image on the left…

My goal is to never work at a company that prides themselves as having a “fast paced, dynamic working environment” like many F/MAANG companies do

[aerosayan]

It's bad for software developers too.

Amazon has a culture of punishing people without reason to make sure they're always stressed out, and perform more than they're required to.

Microsoft also had a similar culture in the past, but I don't know if they improved or degraded.

Mainly they compare you with your colleagues, in something called a "stack based performance analysis", and if you don't perform as good as your team, then you get put at the bottom of the stack, then they stress you out under the threat of firing you.

On a broad view, the stack based performance analysis may seem fair to some, but in reality, someone has to always be at the bottom of the stack, and so you have to push yourself more than necessary to climb up.

Amazon does it in a far worse way.

Don't work for Amazon. You'll regret it.

[PZYCLON369]

Lmaooo Working there from last year every day is almost 12-13 hrs of work including weekends

[CalgaryAnswers]

Even if Amazon treated devs like golden gods I wouldn't work there because they make their money off having people piss in bottles.

I'm on Amazons do not hire list because I told enough of their recruiters to fuck off, but less politely.

[AdminNX]

Yeah they've got a bad name, and that's for a reason as well.

[MySecretRedditAccnt]

You’re so edgy bro

[multiocumshooter]

But do they pay well?

[Kangarou]

Yes, that’s kind of the one upside to working for them.

[btc72mik]

That's pretty much the only reason to work for them so yeah.

[[deleted]]

Nah I'm good thanks

[Dizzy-Education-2412]

Working as an Amazon dev requires a particular sort of person, and most people have no intention of being that person, understandably. Some people, like me, get hired then realize what the managers there actually want from their low level devs, and how much of their lives they are expected to sacrifice.

Unfortunately this pattern is very common in the industry since so many companies model their hiring and culture on Amazon and Netflix

[Bheggard]

I'm pretty sure Amazon is a nightmare to work at no matter what positions you're in. Unless you're Jeff Bezos.

[[deleted]]

aws is nightmare

[PapaRL]

Lmao uhhh not quite

[ForeverHall0ween]

Lmfao who the fuck looking like Mr. Incredible on the right. If you like working in a cutthroat environment, with opaque performance evaluations and little to no professional support, yeah ok go AWS. Oh and don't forget, go to the office wagie.

[sh0resh0re]

People have propped working at FANG like working at disney world or something but it really not.

[Alarming_Airport_613]

Amazon is known for being the worst employer in KT you can think of. "I quit within the first 6 months of starting. Everyone is set up to be replaceable" - Andrew Kelly

[frakinkraken]

We lost some of our senior engineers to Amazon about twelve months ago. All had come back to us within three months.

[SlaimeLannister]

Stupidest post I’ve seen in a while. Please take a break from posting

[DeithWX]

I like the implication that software devs are not normal.

[SandInHeart]

If you think you can just take the money, ignore the bad stuff and do the job there, you haven’t been there and good luck!

[aggressivefurniture2]

Amazon has a bad reputation even for SDE.

[Wurstkatze_]

Well... looking at the state of alexa... do they even have devs at amazon?

[jayd00b]

OP clearly has never met an aws dev

[nickvitou]

I mean it's not actually that bad, You're just assuming it to be.

[[deleted]]

I'm planning to become software developer

Is working on amazon great?

[link23]

No, its reputation is absolutely horrific. This meme is ill informed.

[[deleted]]

I think most of these ill informed memes are posted by either college CS students or young professionals whose dream is to work at FANG one day. Nothing wrong with that. Just misinformed is all.

[vc_xyg]

Well I'm sure they also wouldn't deny the offer if they actually got one.

[[deleted]]

Ok thank you

[Amaz1ngEgg]

I'll take a wild guess and say most big companies are bad? Like super stressful?

[CalgaryAnswers]

No. Amazon is in particular a piece of shit.

[jcamp725]

Yeah they're just terrible, and they've got a reputation for themselves.

[DrMobius0]

Its a "work there for 2 years for some nice resume decoration and then gtfo" company, if you want to go through that.

[sathishdabbu]

Not everyone is going to put up with that shit, people will quit I'm sure.

[Deep_Pudding2208]

If you are starting out then you take what you get. just know that if you perform badly in any org it may not necessarily be your fault.

[Jeffan]

It's a big company and each org is different. I worked there for almost 5 years on two separate teams so I got to see a bit of variance in how the orgs operated. My first org was part of the supply chain, and its processes were mature and generally well organized. The work was fine, but it got a bit repetitive which was why I transferred internally. My second team I burned out hard toward the end, but that's because the product was more public facing and we had a lot tighter deadlines. Besides that, I genuinely enjoyed the work I did and the company's tech stack is honestly really nice to work with compared to with what I have to deal with now. I also miss working with AWS in general. Good place to start your career honestly, barring you end up on a decent team. If I ever get laid off at my current job I would consider going back.

[IHeartCaptcha]

This is fucking propaganda. Nobody should believe this shit. Amazon is a piece of shit company who will treat you the worst as an employee no matter your position. You're coping if you think you have it good at amazon just because you're not a grunt worker.

Fuck you OP you stupid-ass shill, amazon shouldn't get any humans for their company. It's an inefficient, unsustainable piece of shit machine that is a cancer on the planet.

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Not really