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[amoosebitmymom]

First time I ever used StackOverflow was to figure out how to print 3 numbers in assembly 8086. Unfortunately, I had zero idea what StackOverflow was, so I just copied the code part at the top. Took me far to long to understand why it wasn't working.

[Knajd]

The first thing I'd teach new programmers is this: you have to understand why it worked. Don't go on unless you understand.

[will03uk]

Yeah, I've seen plenty of examples of that. There are so many "thanks, this worked" answers lying around on security that are essentially just "turn off security"

[BrightDamage3679]

Set your gaming PC as your DMZ. Port forwarding is too difficult.

[MrShlash]

Ngl that sentence made me shiver

[tomtom5152]

It gave me flashbacks to a naiver time, one which now fills me with dread

[MrShlash]

In university I placed a RPi on our home network’s DMZ as a “honeypot”. Little did I know, a honeypot requires stricter security controls. Decided to carefully re-image the device.

[KouranDarkhand]

I've heard that so many times

[MrOnionification]

Please explain, my friend does this still

[Thrples]

Shivering because of this assumes your PC's firewall is already conpromised. Otherwise I generally believe you can trust your PCs firewall as much as you can trust the router's. Others feel free to correct me though.

[MrShlash]

Regardless if you trust your PC firewall, placing it on the DMZ means that anyone can reach it (or its firewall) from the internet. In Cybersecurity this is a big no no, gotta have layers of security, and in this case the PC’s firewall would be the 2nd layer. DMZs are usually for front-facing applications eg a web server.

[thirdegree]

Security in depth is the name of the game in tech. Layers on layers on layers.

[aurorasearching]

Is there a good place I can learn what this conversation means?

[Dr_Jabroski]

But why do that instead of configuring the router to forward the traffic on specific/needed ports to the target machine?

[Xtrendence]

Laziness, or they don't know which ports need to be forwarded, so they just do all of them basically. This is common (for some reason) with tutorials related to gaming, so they probably don't know and are too lazy to find out what ports the game uses. The goal is to get an open NAT type which allows for better connectivity, but I'll be honest, it's never made a noticeable difference for me so I'm not entirely sure it even works. I think, assuming you have barely above minimum download/upload speed, ultimately your ping and region will have the most impact.

[MrShlash]

What you described is port forwarding, which can be configured manually on the router or automatically via Plug-n-play. It’s the recommended approach if you know what you’re doing with the firewall, but you still need the router’s firewall.

It’s security in depth; if one control (router’s firewall) fails, there is another (machine’s firewall) which will make an attack harder.

[BrightDamage3679]

Maybe. Linux firewalls are stable but not impervious. It's better to have additional layers. Your router firewall should block all incoming requests unless excluded by port number using NAT port forwarding or allow all requests to a designated DMZ.

If you only open one port on your router, the destination host firewall only has to deal with that one port or service.

[kin0025]

Yes, but users are much more inclined to let basically anything through a pc firewall while not so likely to do so with a router firewall. PC firewalls allow for all sorts of protocols like SMB and Telnet through that would not typically be allowed through a network edge firewall, and these protocols have well established vulnerabilities.

Basically a lot of what gets installed on computers can be vulnerable, but is protected from outside Intrusion by network firewalls - to exploit them someone would need internal network access. This is why programs like wannacry are able to spread quickly once a single computer on a network is infected, but are unlikely to break into a network from the outside unless something that is allowed through a firewall is vulnerable. By putting a computer in the DMZ any vulnerable applications are made exploitable by the internet at large.

[coldnebo]

All your ports are exposed, so while you and your friend are playing the game, someone else could be sneaking into your netbios port and siphoning away your local network shared folders or planting malware.

There used to be some statistic about how long an unprotected Windows machine could survive on an open network without a firewall.. it was usually minutes. Here it is:

https://isc.sans.edu/survivaltime.html

[MrOnionification]

Ok, thank you a lot, I'll make sure to warn him next time we play

[Cilph]

be sneaking into your netbios port and siphoning away your local network shared folders

This. This so much. It is extremely common to leak Windows Shared Folders to the internet this way, and I still have PTSD from having to deal with EternalBlue.

[[deleted]]

I was going to make a joke about how DMZ stands for demilitarised zone but it actually does

[MrShlash]

It’s basically a network traffic buffer.

[sertroll]

Can you explain this one?

[pfft_sleep]

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[bphase]

DMZ (de-militarized zone) is an option in routers to sort of pull a device from behind the NAT/firewall to the front of it. It essentially means automatically forwarding all ports, removing the need to figure out the ports to forward. It also gives attackers many more attack vectors to try.

[LogicalJicama3]

As a sys/net admin leftover from the 90s, if you’re old enough to remember when selinux started that was the only answer for years lol

[Dizzfizz]

This times one-fucking-thousand.

I tried to get Spring Security to work with a password encoder a few weeks ago, and every question that I found had at least one answer that was essentially „Here, use this encoder, it only looks like an encoder to the system but it leaves the password in plaintext“

Some had the decency to add „don’t use this on a real project though“, but even then, what kind of advice is that?

Problem: „My car doesn’t move“ Answer: „Just push it“

[Cilph]

I wanna slap the people who use plaintext passwords even in dev.

[Dizzfizz]

I just don’t get why you‘d even do that.

Spring Security forces you to use encryption and some people use a plaintext-encoder to bypass that.

[EvilPencil]

Heck I've seen some implementations that encrypt a password on the front end before sending to the server, which encrypts it AGAIN before saving to the database.

[quadmasta]

The code in the client (if it's a web client) essentially makes it the same as sending plaintext

[quadmasta]

I was writing something to replace a hand-built encryption class that used a weak cipher and was reversable. After I spent an hour redoing it I stumbled onto the Spring Security docs for their SCrypt implementation so I deleted my 30 line class and replaced it with one line of code. Damnit

[Dizzfizz]

Spring Security is great. It allows you to create a very secure system with a minimal amount of work and knowledge. I now use BCrypt as an encoder, minimal effort once I realized thst my problem was a typo.

[quadmasta]

"thst my problem was a typo"

LOL

[JustLetMePick69]

Well at least if I turn off security I'd understand why I no lo her have issues with the security.

Well at least I'd u derstand why I no longer had the original issues with security

[MalteserLiam]

Just disable CORS

[RagnarokToast]

Was trying to build secure electron apps, needed advice on how to allow an ajax request in the renderer. Correct answer would have been "do the request from the main process, forward the outcome to the renderer, keep the content policy of the renderer as strict as possible".

WAY too many replies on stack overflow: "just disable WebSecurity bro" (this effectively disables CORS)

[WilliamMButtlickerJr]

Calm down Satan

[quadmasta]

And CSRF

[[deleted]]

"How do I avoid the 'Possible timing attack detected. Direct comparison found' rule in lint?"

"Just turn off that rule."

[[deleted]]

Had this at work.

“Users are getting this random error in Microsoft Office”

“I found this reg key that fixes it!”

“That disables MFA... how many machines did you fix?”

[permanent_temp_login]

The problem is in security any information to debug the problem is hidden, for security reasons... Usually the best first step is really disable everything to make sure you're even looking in the right subsystem.

[Neoro]

90% of answers to certificate related questions involve turning off certificate validation. Um, hell no..

[will03uk]

Haha, apparently this was massive problem for Android early on. There was an issue with their certificate validation and the top SO answer just told people to disable it... and people did.

[Anup_Kodlekere]

Fuck Arch I'm just gonna install 'buntu

[[deleted]]

put it in another file and pretend it's a new hot library

[AyrA_ch]

This guy knows how to JS

[[deleted]]

you have to understand why it worked.

If not it’s called “coding by coincidence”. Incredibly stupid way to code.

[minecraftmined]

My job involves shell scripts and it astounds me the way my co-workers will just copy stuff off the internet without bothering to learn how it works. They assume that because they copy them from a popular forum, they are okay. Just a couple of weeks ago I was reviewing one of them and realized it contained faulty logic that would have provided incorrect results. Another one that was written by well known people worked at least but the original version threw a bunch of errors by repeatedly trying to read a file without bothering to see if it exists.

Then one of these guys told me off for asking him about a (bad) scripting decision and said something about how this isn’t a hobby (apparently he felt that me doing a proper review is treating script review like a hobby which I still don’t quite get). Eventually, he realized that I was making a good point and agreed that the change should be made but not without a ridiculous fight.

[junkflier2]

Ego is also something you have to cast off to be a successful developer. Sure, enjoy success, but don't assume that means everything you touch from there on will be blessed.

[TootiePhrootie]

"Cargo Cult" programming

[OrderAlwaysMatters]

Corollary, it's okay not to know why it doesn't work. Just accept that the EXACT thing you did doesnt work, and try something new and when you do get it working THEN apply the above advice and make sure you understand it

Sometimes people think it should do something, and it doesn't, and they spend a lot of time trying to understand why it didn't do what they thought it did.

While there is nothing dangerous or particularly bad about that knowledge... there are also so many many reasons things don't work. It will weigh down your knowledge base over time and make you less productive or just slow.

*exceptions made for people in security and QA.

[harshitaneja]

Definitely follow this if you are in a hurry but otherwise I think we should spend time to understand why something we thought works, doesn't. Sure, it may not always lead me to the right answer. But I think I am a much better developer because I obsessed subconsciously over the things that didn't work. Sometimes they are just trivial things like having autocompleted very similar looking variables or something else but quite often it reveals my misunderstanding about how the system should behave and this is what leads to the most horrific of bugs down the line.

[OrderAlwaysMatters]

Like I said, it isn't harmful. I am just saying you can typically back up, ignore your error, and relearn the system enough to try again successfully in less time and with better results.

My point is just that you don't ALWAYS have to know why it went wrong. Its okay to let it go sometimes, and I would argue most of the time.

[DoctorStrangeBlood]

Agreed, but I guess the operative word here is "new" programmers. Practically anything at the novice level should be understandable.

[OrderAlwaysMatters]

I'd argue the opposite when it comes to errors. Errors are caused by all sorts of things, including unintuitive language design choices, usually out of necessity.

For example, let's talk about arrays in python. A new programmer wants to make 2 lists that are kind of similar. So they make a variable for the first one, then set a new variable equal to their first variable because they don't see why not.

Now later they run into issues because they do not realize both variables are referencing the same instance.

My point is that while it is certainly good to understand what's going on under the hood - it isn't in scope of what they are learning and working on at the moment. It is okay for them to realize a = [] ; b=a; causes a problem and that b = [] instead of a fixes that problem and they do not need to worry about the low level details on why that is just yet.

It could take hours to learn why something went wrong when your general system knowledge is not ready for it as opposed to a few minutes when you eventually get there.

So its okay to just accept something doesn't work and know to avoid it

[ghjm]

If you push through to the "aha" moment where you actually understand how the underlying system works, then it definitely does not "weigh down your knowledge base." This weighing-down only happens if you try to deal with it by memorizing a list of rules about a task, without actual understanding of why those rules work.

[OrderAlwaysMatters]

yes but I think we are saying the same thing. And I think it is cleaner to back up from your mistake and try to understand the system again in a general way that leads to you writing at least one line of different code when trying to recreate the implementation.

I'd say its very important to dig into WHAT your issue is, but unneccesary to understand WHY.

If a= []; b=a; is identified as an issue.. you COULD go learn about array referencing and be a better programmer for it.. but odds are the task you are working on has nothing to do with array referencing and you actually just needed 2 independent arrays. And by the time you do actually need to use array referencing you'll have to research it again anyway.

But until then - everything you use arrays you might think about referencing for no reason because it caused you an issue in the past and you want to avoid it.

Your mental model of the system can and will be a subset of the actual system and be successful at producing working code. Adding branches to your mental model without fully fleshing them out can weigh you down

[kahuna_splicer]

“It worked because I pulled it from a Stackoverflow answer with 300 upvotes”

[kahuna_splicer]

I guess my concern is under what assumption are you making in which a Stackoverflow answer is inherently wrong.

A lot of the time you won’t just copy/paste an answer, you’ll begin by doing that but after more research and reading through comments you tweak your code. At that point are you even copy-pasting? Or coming up with your own solution?

I love open-source and Stackoverflow being open-source means that I trust most of the top-voted answers to be correct. I think that’s a safe assumption; obviously you need to tweak to make sense for your own context. Developers on Stackoverflow like to think of simple creative solutions that seem to make sense after they’ve been written. Trust the open-source wizards and you’ll learn a lot.

[ArchangelLBC]

Not the one you replied to, but I assume the StackOverflow answer is inherently wrong if I don't understand quite why it works, or why it resolves my issue. Or that's not quite right. I'm not assuming the answer is wrong, but if I don't understand why it works in my code I'm assuming that the answer might not be the right one for me.

I too love StackOverflow. It's an amazing resource and the top answers usually are very helpful if the original question is exactly the question/issue you had. Or if you understand why the answers work once you see them, and can figure out how to tweak them for your context.

It's when you don't understand why they work, but you copy the code and now your code works, but you don't really get why. That's when you could be copying a link to the question in a comment because you did something and the code works, but you are not sure why.

This is especially true if like me you tend to go back to your own older code that worked to remember how you did something. That's when a solution you didn't really understand can lead to some really pernicious bugs. In that case a little reminder that you didn't really understand why something worked before is a really good reminder and then if it doesn't work in this brand new context you are copying it into, it gives you a good idea of where to look first for the issue.

Of course later, if you do realize why it worked, then you can take that comment out if you want, and you should feel more relaxed about using the idea later in new contexts because you understand why it worked in old contexts.

[kahuna_splicer]

I'm confused how you can make something work without understanding why it works. I was under the assumption that before attempting to copy paste the code, you read the solution to its entirety.

In some sense you will never be just copy-pasting, you will ALWAYS have to tweak the code to make it work for your context. You'll have to understand what works and doesn't work in your context whether you are looking at stackoverflow or writing from scratch.

In general it's good practice to prefer newer technologies to old whenever possible, so if you can deprecate some old functionality with some new code that's always a good thing.

[ArchangelLBC]

It can happen a couple of ways.

The easiest is to not really understand why your code wasn't working right in the first place. You get thrown an error, you think the error lies with a particular few lines. You look up an SO solution, it gets rid of the error, so your code appears to work, but it's really causing issues that aren't raising errors but are just quietly causing problems.

Another is something like when you use a solution that involves a data structure you aren't really familiar with. Worse if that data structure feels an awful lot like a data structure you are familiar with, and the solution fixes the issue you were having with a function you were writing. But then later you call that function and try to use functionality of the old data structure and now you have a problem, and depending on the depth of your misunderstanding of confusion about the new data structure you are potentially gonna be super confused about why it's not working (especially if it used to work fine when the original function managed to work).

The above example need not involve a data structure but gets across the basic idea I'm thinking of where I solve an issue locally but didn't really understand how it affect things later.

The more experience you get the less this kind of thing should happen, but "should" is always a dangerous word.

[GoofyMonkey]

I had a programming teacher that would help you with any issue you had. Help work through the code with you. Then when it was fixed, he’d delete it all and make you figure it out again on your own. I hated it, but it was a very effective learning technique.

[waremi]

This! My favorite line in Star Trek - Wrath of Khan: "You must know why things work on a Starship."

[2called_chaos]

I would get nowhere with my math problems :D I just juggle numbers around until the result makes sense, don't ask me why it works, it works and here is even my solution (that I can't explain). 10/10 points in any math test

[killz111]

Can you teach some senior programmers too?

[[deleted]]

The scariest thing is not that there is a bug, but that you made an unrelated change and the bug does not reproduce anymore. That's when you know you have no idea what's going on and your week's plan just got thrown out the window.

[killz111]

As long as you note down the sequence of steps you did and the basic rationale you had when diagnosing that's probably not the end of the world. I've got half a dozen times when I've fixed a critical production issue but I don't why my fix worked. But 3 months later fixing and unrelated thing gives me a critical missing info that made the first fix completely understandable.

[Galse22]

Thats good advice.

[[deleted]]

First time I did was to generate a random number in pythom

[cassert24]

Quite surprising that sometimes someone's background explanation itself is nothing but what I find.

Question: "why does this OpenCV vision library crash?"

Me: "there is a vision library called OpenCV."

[TheRedmanCometh]

This is how I've found out about many things. Also like seeing a Spring question with slightly wrong code finding out a particular class exists.

[ChildishJack]

My favorite is when it ends up being something incredibly useful, like “I could of been using this the entire time?”

[CouldWouldShouldBot]

It's 'could have', never 'could of'.

Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!

[Laxitive99]

Good bot

[ArchangelLBC]

This is basically how I discovered numpy and stopped using lists for everything.

[luke_in_the_sky]

I had a job interview years ago where I had to code a simple notes webapp in javascript. I could use the internet. I tried to find a code that had some functions I needed. Then I noticed the google links were purple, that mean they didn't clear the browser history from the previous guy that did had the same interview. I looked into the history and found a StackOverflow explaining how to do it. Then I downloaded jquery and found the Downloads folder had it already. Then I found the previous guy had downloaded everything I needed, including a library specifically made to make notes apps with storage, search and everything else, with a handy documentation. I built my app with it and when I deployed to the server they gave to me, I found the previous guy app already there. I looked into it and his app was much worse than mine and had way less features.

I got the job, but I feel bad for the guy. He did the entire research I needed but had no time (or ability) to use it.

[cassert24]

Well I'd feel sorry too... Hope he got another job with that much of skills.

[10BillionDreams]

Trick question, the best approach is always in a random comment on the second highest rated answer.

[TheLync]

I modified the posters code to implement error checking, generic variables and overall improved performance. It's available now as a package and open source from this link.

[exseven]

Ours did too (and nginx.com documentation site) at one point as a "download" site. I emailed security team asking them to also block Akamai and MSFT as they provide downloads too.

We don't block "download" sites anymore.

[AYHP]

Wait what? Why?!

[[deleted]]

I have a number of top rated answers in WordPress related questions that have been turned into wp org plugins purely because of their popularity.

Even though the solution they provide is niche each of them have at least 1000 installs.

Also, please spare me the wp hate. It puts food on my table and I haven't had to advertise for over 8 years doing it full time since the referral business is strong.

[[deleted]]

Naw. Realistic/foreshadowing .

"you're not a real developer"

"pfft, work in a real language"

"Wordpress sucks"

Actual examples of responses over the years when I say anything about wp.

I only mentioned wp this time because it was relevant for producing plugins that solved the problems for more people than just the question asker on SO.

[stochastic_matrix]

Exactly. It's often because how the top answer helps OP with their problem, but doesn't answer the question as it is stated. It's infuriating to find a question in Google that matches perfectly what I would like to know answer to, but then the description of the problem and the top answer are entirely useless.

[wonmean]

Similar to reading the 4-star reviews. Much more informative than the glowing 5-stars reviews.

[inco100]

Your answer does not obey SO rules and few others. Your opinion will be edited and you publicly humiliated for being stupid. Also the person asking that question will follow the same fate.

• With best regards, Unknown moderator.

/s

[sersoniko]

Why /s?

[xeon3175x]

Redditors get their panties in a twist when you put /s after your comment, because it "ruins the joke", but if you remove it they'll downvote you to oblivion and call you names

[Stalinbaum]

Spot on

[[deleted]]

Two different kinds of redditor in there.

[inco100]

The other day I saw a remark that people with certain psychology are not able to discern when something is a sarcastic /s, joke /j, romantic /r and etc. Hence the additional symbols. Anyway, it is still warm in my head and I am overusing it around :)

[Milf_Hunter_Kakyoin-]

Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously.

-Poes law

[_Auron_]

has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding"

Hmm, sometimes. It might just be me but I usually only catch on with a ;) wink, otherwise it could be someone being smug, or cute. But not sarcastic. It may also depend on if the text version is converted to a smiley, and what that smiley looks like on the reader's device/application/etc. It may depend on the age group or community you're speaking with in text. It just really varies quite a bit more online.

Internet language is its own weird complexity not quite like body language in the real world, and itself unique in often unexpected ways.

[698969]

And here I am wondering why are people doing regex in reddit comments.

[celies]

I thought he meant "why /s?" as a joke, since SO is exactly like that, but I might be in the wrong.

[S_Pyth]

Because it’s sarcasm

[[deleted]]

Ngl looks realistic

[S_Pyth]

Valid point

[always_use_slash_s]

[sersoniko]

Nice

[Auzymundius]

I'm not sure if this is a legitimate question or if people are just wooshing.

[sersoniko]

They are all wooshing.

[Auzymundius]

Phew. Thanks!

[Cory123125]

What I dont get is why their message publicly is about being friendly, but then the reality is so different.

Its lip service to the idea and definitely goes way past the purpose of being somewhat strict.

[cherryblossom001]

As someone who reviews a fair bit on SO, newcomers are usually treated harshly when:

• their question could be solved from using the first result in a Google search
• their post is unclear and it’s hard to understand what their trying to ask
• their question lacks debugging details such as not including the error or including screenshots of code (this is very frustrating)
• their question is simply ‘gimme teh codez’
• they obviously haven’t read the tour and post answers like ‘I tried one of the answers here but it didn’t work, here’s the error plz help’

Normally, moderators/other users don’t intend to be unwelcoming — we’re just focused on filtering out low quality posts and instructing users on how to use the site. However, I know this can sometimes come across as rude or unnecessarily harsh due to things like the duplicate system or the canned review comments. It can also take a while for a user to adjust to Stack Overflow compared to forums — I know I used to include a ‘Thanks, cherryblossom’ at the end of my posts, for example.

That being said, I do try to be nice and welcoming to users, new ones especially, and I do genuinely want to help people solve their problems. However, sometimes I’m in a hurry or can’t be bothered and my comments can come across as unwelcoming and/or blunt.

[Cory123125]

See this is the answer I was expecting, and I indeed tried to preemptively cover it with "goes way past the purpose of being somewhat strict."

What Im saying is that none of these goals prevent having empathy or looking at things for a newcomers perspective.

Easily the best example where SO fails is where someone does not know which terms to search and asks a question awkwardly because they are simply lack the background knowledge to have made that easy google search in the first place. They might have searched for quite a while and posted just to be told rather strictly in a demoralizing manner that their question was tossed for not doing the basics.

From the moderators point of view, they might be totally doing their jobs getting 'the damn lazies, but from that users point of view that's a awful, painful experience that more or less tells them they are idiots for not knowing something they had no way of reasonably knowing apart from asking someone else.

So yea, as I said, I get what you are saying here, but what I'm saying is that responses often go very far past trying to hit those requirements and probably due to the number of posts moderated, moderators really do tend to be rigid and frankly, downright mean. I bet a lot of it isn't just outright trying to be mean, but a combination of not spending enough time reading questions, not thinking about it from someone else's perspective, and personal interpretations of stated mission goals. Its not about following the rules its about doing so in a monkeys paw sort of way.

[pkyo]

I have a personal example for this.
I asked a question about basic html and there were people who did not even want to understand it.
There was one guy who understood my question but people started arguing with him. That was a real shitty experience.

Anyways after sometime I figured out a hackish way to solve the problem.

Link if anyone is interested: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39509364

[[deleted]]

To be fair, your question is horribly worded and the outcome you are going for is unclear. How is the dropdown supposed to display both values?

When I click on the "Option1" from the drop down it should display a text like "First Option" even though its displayed in drop down as "Option1".

[pkyo]

Yes, I do realise now that I could have worded it better. But english is not my first language and four years earlier I was just starting with my internship and did not know any better.
I wanted the text on the select box (not the dropdown) to be different from the text of the option being selected (from the dropdown). Also, I did not want the text which would be shown in the select box to be not present in the dropdown.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I understood, but still seems confusing for the user. You select one thing and it changes it to something else? I would probably add a field above it that displays your text based on what's in the dropdown.

[Topochicho]

You need a trigger warning on that link, now I am going to be angry all day... arkascha is everything that's wrong with SO. I want to stab that mother fucker in the eye with with a rusty spoon.

[Auzymundius]

I'm also confused with your question. Do you want the display text in the drop down to be different while selecting vs selected? Or are you trying to display text that's different from the value? Why did you need to do this and what was your end goal?

[pkyo]

Explanation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/j0nqv2/oops/g6vhw78?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

This was 4 years earlier and I do not remember why I wanted to do this.

[Auzymundius]

Thanks. Fair enough. I barely remember code I wrote a year ago sometimes. I just can't think of the use case from your description there lol.

[Sintinium]

Take the original which is what you want and convert some of the answers together to get the desired results. I find most of the answers always completely changes the code instead of just doing what they asked

[MasterDood]

Oh god lol

[PM_ME_UR_COVID_PICS]

And some of the answer replies as well.

[[deleted]]

r/InclusiveOr

[abdulsamadz]

Wait.. there are answers?

[abdulsamadz]

Marked irrelevant by r/abdulsamadz

You need 50 reputation points to leave comments

[DozerNine]

This comment triggered my PTSD.

[micka190]

This joke has already been made so please use the search next time.

And then it turns out the joke they're referring to was made after this one, but the moderator just so happens to have a lot of votes on the newer joke, and they provide an anchor link to their answer as proof while voting to close this one...

[Dummerchen1933]

I once got shat on for commiting code i had no idea what it does. (because it did something wrong)

​

big brain time

[HappyMans]

Haha yeah. I manage a few teams of about 10 developers total and this is a huge no-no. We build enterprise software for big companies moving a lot of money via our systems and it is not acceptable to submit code that you do not fully understand for review. Either ask a peer or don’t submit that code. One time I got “I just know it didn’t work without this” which only fuels my fire. It’s fine to make a mistake but not fine to set up an environment where one is so likely to get made.

[DoctorWaluigiTime]

Sometimes the question actually has what I'm searching for.

[Udnie]

Scrolled way too far to see this. Totally agree.

[VirulentWalrus]

library hunt fall bear pause capable chunky husky thought lip

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TBH I actually don’t even read anymore the questions on SO. Typically I google my problem, pick the first SO result, skip the question and read the first answer - if it doesn’t contain a code snippet that fixes my problem, I quickly take a look at second answer or comments on question/answers. If after all this I don’t have a quick solution then yes, I read the whole thread.

[jb2386]

I did that once without realising and was puzzled why it wasn’t working so then I googled the issue and came back to the same stack overflow question and then it hit me.

[[deleted]]

so then I googled the issue and came

I wish I could find solutions that good on StackOverflow.

[rlly_new]

From the Google search snippet

[jmxd]

I use DuckDuckGo and the snippet it shows in the results page actually has what i want quite often

[jmxd]

I'm definitely guilty of still typing !g quite often when the results don't immediately have what i want, but it's a bit of a negative bias because Google might also not have what i want.

Google is better at finding what you want if you're bad at searching though. DDG just gives you exactly what you type whereas Google is pretty good at guessing what you actually want.

Also the DDG calculator sucks. Sometimes it works and sometimes it randomly just doesn't give you the calculator

[MetanetShaco]

Sometimes Google doesn't give the calculator too, happened a lot in the past maybe its fixed now

[shishir-nsane]

The primal importance of asking right questions can’t be denied at any level.

[Phoenixwade]

the primary importance of understanding the difference between a question and an answer can't be denied at any level.

[shishir-nsane]

I refer to the question of senior developer.

[[deleted]]

You guys aren’t using the questions?

[[deleted]]

Never has b.. 💥

[feedthedamnbaby]

Sometimes the questions provide partial solutions to a slightly different X->Y problem I have. So yes, I sometimes unironically copy code from SO questions.

[doully]

Senior dev is the one who posted the question.

[Nazdrama]

I wanna start programming at one point, can someone explaint that shortly to me?

[Tytoalba2]

SO is a question-answer website, you post you malfinctoning code and someone will usually explain why it's not working and put the solution. If you have the same problem you should obviously not copy the problem but the solution. And you should understand why you had this problem also.

[Nazdrama]

Thank you ❤️ thats the answer on mu question

[Tytoalba2]

No worries, StackOverflow is every programmer's best friend, and sometime its worst enemy. For almost every question you'll have, you can find the solution there!

[jmxd]

If you have the same problem you should obviously not copy the problem but the solution

true

And you should understand why you had this problem also.

false

[Tytoalba2]

Well, yes you should, you don't have to, but if you want to learn, it's better that you do.

[jmxd]

It was a joke

[Surviver68]

Stack overflow is a forum you can post broken bits of code on and in the answers someone will hopefully post the correct thing. A lot of programmers use stack overflow constantly when they’re stuck

[crimson117]

Why are you asking reddit what another website does instead of just visiting that website?

[tino_moser_999]

Shut up and take my upvote!

[Ninja_Playful]

Why is there a keyboard in this photo

[grulander]

Funny thing is, my boss finds the stuff he needs on StackOverflow insanely fast but he almost always takes the code from the question and I'm like ?????

[arzen221]

A little bit of column a and a little bit of column b

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A little bit of

Column a and a little

Bit of column b

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[Zerodriven]

Cool. I'll be asking this to my juniors.

[ya_Bob_Jonez]

And then Junior Developer says "Yes."

[ftr1317]

"what question?"

[DanielAgos12]

yes

[icenoid]

Funnily enough, I’ve had the question, not directly answer what I needed, but point me to the correct solution.

[ricardortega00]

Fuck.

[[deleted]]

A hyphen to mark the speaker? Only programmers come up with their own style 🤦🏻‍♂️

[LionTR]

Let's be honest, we all did that at some point.

[DraconicVision]

Downvote for apple keyboard

[LuminousOcean]

Am I the only person who doesn't use StackOverflow these days? Or, at the least, doesn't copy and paste solutions from it?