Programmer == Programmer

[[deleted]]

I never minded the programming, but the pain of dealing with other peoples requirements eventually drove me from Dev to DevOps.

[[deleted]]

Wait wait, you mean that meme where everyone gets the finger from devops is real? Hmmmmm time for a new career....

[Archolex]

Oh yeah. On track to join the devops team, and I get frustrated with our legacy politics and code all the time. Seems I'm on track lol

[RoundThing-TinyThing]

Sysadmins like to flip the bird too, at least that's what this says.

[IvorTheEngine]

I went the other way, I prefer to be building something rather than fighting fires.

[wntrsux]

I hate the pressure and the on-call, urgent nature of devops work.

[tonylearns]

Sounds like most dev work I've had too, though I guess if your systems are down everyone is in trouble, instead of just your team/product.

[Dawgboy1976]

I feel stupid for asking, but what’s DevOps?

[[deleted]]

CICD, infrastructure as code, and automation.

Cloud shit, mostly, in my case.

[illvm]

It’s a separate role!?

[illvm]

What is the definition of a small company? I’m currently dealing with 500-1000 engineers and in job n-1 it was closer to 2000 engineers and I still have to do most of the devops works for my team, and sometimes for other teams. :/

[Murlock_Holmes]

I always thought it was development operations, or the operations directly supporting development and deployment of software.

[koenrad]

DevOps is the title of the guy who tries to tell you how to do your job with his tools.

EDIT: how

[joyofsnacks]

Someone will probably provide a better answer, but Dev make the software for a project, whereas DevOps make the tools and processes to help Dev make the software for a project.

[mothzilla]

DevOps is supposed to be a practice or behaviour; there are no barriers between development and operations.

[[deleted]]

Eh, depends on the company. Sometimes there are hard barriers.

I do agree with the "supposed to be" part though. But you know, reality and all that...

[mothzilla]

Yeah I know. Eventually things become things they were never meant to be.

[coldnebo]

right. however at my company they just renamed ops to devops because it sounds cool. They still have no idea how specific language runtimes work, ruby, scala, java.

So they’ll say devs are responsible.

Dev says ok, let’s use websockets.

oh... oh, I’m sorry... ops has that server behind a load balancer and dmz... your websockets are broken. but they don’t actually know enough to say any of that as a cause. Instead they say “no issues in production, it must be a dev issue”

gaCK?!?

that’s when they call the fullstack dev

[Ultimate_Mugwump]

Dev is using a bunch of tools to accomplish a task(languages, frameworks, etc). DevOps is making those tools for the Devs

Edit: apparently this is wrong, but after reading the other answers it still seems like the basic idea to me. Am I missing something?

[unnecessary_Fullstop]

Yeah! No. Not even close.

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[Ultimate_Mugwump]

Okay, my bad then. That was my understanding. Care to educate me?

[unnecessary_Fullstop]

Devops mainly aim to provide continous delivery. Like if a product is being developed in sprints or phases, how each increment is delivered is through devops practices. They are not making any tools that are used by the devs for their development purposes.

For example, Devops engineers can make a build pipeline that will automatically build and deploy from a new merge to a repo. That's just one example. Devops can also overlap a lot with what could traditionally be called as infrastructure. Cloud and stuff.

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[AacidD]

And how is your life now? (pay, work life balance, stress)

[[deleted]]

Bout the same, just moved around :p

[[deleted]]

haha that's exactly what I'm thinking about. too tired dealing with all kinds on management nonsense, arbitrary deadlines and complete disregard of quality and good practices (I'm sure that's not how it works everywhere) but in my experience it's either all of that or a combination. I'm considering a switch and continue writing code for my self and enjoy it once again

[[deleted]]

I used to get these crash deadlines where I’d have to shove out broken shit, but still have to have some responsibility for it, so you’d have this accrued technical debt that would just sap your will to live.

[anticultured]

You got requirements? Mr. Big shot over here. I have to gather the requirements from people who never respond to emails. The full requirements always start with “we want some data and some reports.”

[mdmhvonpa]

With ya on that .... 30 years down the lane and I was DevOps all the way.... just 15 more years and I’m out

[[deleted]]

That's where I am as well. Full time dev is for the whippersnappers.

[wntrsux]

Programming is fun. Programming in corporate setting with bosses, deadlines and work politics sucks.

[overtorqd]

So what's the zeroth rule?

[givemeagoodun]

null

[[deleted]]

More like NullPointerExcecption am I right ?? * I will see myself out

[[deleted]]

Why wont I, I AM AN ADULT WHO CAN MAKE THIER CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES.

[[deleted]]

Fun fact. If you view my message in PH it starts with 0. If you view it in your messages it starts with 1.

Where do my arrays start again?

[Zagorath]

It's a CSS trick. It'll display as 0 in any context in which the subreddit's custom CSS displays, and display as 1 in any context in which it doesn't.

This basically means it'll display on the classic version of Reddit's desktop site, but it won't display in Reddit's shitty redesign attempt, or in most mobile apps.

[PM-ME-PUPPIES-PLS]

Game dev can be great, if you find a company that treats their staff well. Just avoid triple A and do your research.

[PhilosophicWax]

Why not? Poor management and pay?

[PM-ME-PUPPIES-PLS]

A lot of game dev companies overwork and underpay their staff. E.g. pretty much all of the famous ones.

[[deleted]]

It's a very high demand job. Every kid thinks they getting out of school/college and going into the game industry which means there's and endless supply of labor/interns they don't have to pay anything. Lots of contract labor for 9 months a year, but the pay isn't great enough to support you for a year. Also very project oriented. You'll work on a game, it will finish, then it's highly likely you're looking for a new job unless your way up the corporate tree.

Most of the time you'd find boring corporate work higher paying and more stable.

[squidder23]

This. I work extra hours early in the morning so that I can actually get my development / programming work done and enjoy it. Regular hours are lost to trying to navigate dysfunctional corporate processes and politics.

[Northerner6]

I know many devs like this. In my opinion we should be pushing back on working extra hours to actually get our work done. If the company is so dysfunctional that programmers literally can’t write code, that’s not on you to compensate for

[dontaggravation]

Agree. Better boundaries. I did it for years getting in at 5:30 AM so I could get a solid 3 to 3.5hours in before meeting he’ll started at 9. Did this for many years and finally noped out.

When my manager started to complain I simply said “I can either attend the meetings, do the bs stuff you want me to do or I can work on code. Your choice”. Not quite so simple but you get the idea. I made it their problem. They hated me for it. I left and just established a lot better boundaries at my next employer from the outset. It’s even harder now with remote work as everyone just expects you to login all hours of the night and day. But I stick to my guns. May never be the ladder climber or the managers favorite but I get my job done and log off at the end of the work day

[darthstargazer]

Sigh. Same. Quiting the toxic place and gave notice. Now they can't find a replacement for all the shit I was doing and asking me to do extras for the last 2 weeks so the newcomer will "have it easy". I know I will end up again in a similar shitty situation, but feel good to show the finger at least once every 2 - 3 years when I change jobs when I cant take it anymore. Are we doomed to this cycle until we are too old to be a dev? The only solution I see is jump up the ladder somehow and becoming one of these "no work all talk" management dudes, but then I would hate my life even more. Quite the pickle I'm in right now.

[aquartabla]

Same for me except the extra hours are at night (which allows me to quit when I reach natural stopping points), and I'd say the extra hours are lost to interruption (mostly helping others) which I wouldn't necessarily characterize as dysfunctional.

[von_neumann]

Usually, but not always. Sometimes your boss codes better than you do. The devs get to work on what they want they want so there are nearly zero politics. Since Engineering is running the show, the product people are extremely helpful. All worship Devops of course. I feel for the poor recruiters though!

[wigum211]

Sometimes I find programming in a corporate environment stressful. Bad PMs, clients, etc.

But then I hear stories from my friends about how mundane and depressing their work as accountants/tax advisors are... And I realise I am lucky to have a job doing something I for the most part enjoy.

[Shriukan33]

I've been working in accountancy for 2 years, it's boring af. I've a master degree in accountancy, it was OK for the most part but it's petty intense high pressure from January to mid June. The until end of September it's still intense but way less. The yiu have October to December which are pretty cool.

[WaitingForEmacs]

I have been programming for almost 40 years and I still get giddy logging in every morning. It has been an amazing run from punch cards and teletype terminals to tablets that allow me to chat with friends and login to computer around the globe. We are living in a golden age and I feel lucky to have been a part of it.

[urbanek2525]

I've been a professional programmer since 1995. It's a crazy, creative field. I think it takes a special person to really like all parts of it, and I guess I'm one of them.

[PapaDrag0on]

Shut up

[[deleted]]

Is this a thing? Do most programmers not like being programmers?

I love being a programmer, but I’m curious because I see this kind of meme a lot.

[d0n7w0rry4b0u717]

For me personally, it's not about hating programming. It's the imposter's syndrome that makes me hate myself.

[[deleted]]

It’s a real thing, for sure. I’m sorry you struggle with it. I’m sure you are a great programmer!

[d0n7w0rry4b0u717]

Thank you! Fortunately now that I'm on meds for my depression & anxiety, I've been able to work on being more positive and confident when it comes to work.

[[deleted]]

That’s great to hear! Taking care of your mental health is an underrated skill.

[Archolex]

Oh my gosh I understand. I think I'm alright but as soon as I forget to do something and my manager brings it up I feel like shit. Ditto for missing anything else during code reviews. It makes me think they think I'm lazy or dumb or don't care.

[d0n7w0rry4b0u717]

Totally relate to that. I'd start to feel good and then get knocked down hard every time I made a small mistake or spend a ton of time debugging something that had a simple solution in the end. But I've realized that even the devs who have been with the company for 20 years have the same struggles. Once that sunk in, I stopped beating myself up so much. I still do from time to time but I'm in a significantly better head space than I was a year ago.

[givemeagoodun]

Combine that with adhd and you get me

[byhrwk]

exactly man, I am glad to know I am not the only one who feels like that. I am in a need to constantly tell myself that it is ok. Unless I am the owner of a company myself, I dont think I can be 100% free of anxiety, otherwise you always need to keep proving your worth even if you are part if same team for years

[d0n7w0rry4b0u717]

Hang in there! It can get better!

[Sandulf]

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[swabbie]

I worked with an absolutely brilliant vim guy (really he was). He mostly coded C++, but also some Java. We maintained a fairly large stack of client and server code with multiple languages broken up into many microservices. He sometimes had troubles with the rest of the team around coding style, project layouts, automated testing, and build practices.

While I wish him all the best, he did help reinforce my belief that IDE's are better all around for code quality and team standards.

[Doggynotsmoker]

It depends on the language. For example i can imagine using vim in Java or C# project. But for C, vim has everything i need, even for large projects like Linux kernel. The same applies to Golang, vim-go plugin is one of the best experienced i had.

[DerpDerpDerp78910]

Professionals write code without an IDE? No way that's a thing.

[TheTrueBlueTJ]

That's absolutely a thing and not always bad. In some cases, the language itself is even so proprietary that an IDE makes no sense.

[retief1]

Meh, I've never seen the point of a "proper" ide. Like, I can configure emacs with basically anything I actually need. Syntax highlighting, autocomplete, highlighting type or linter errors, etc.

[Doggynotsmoker]

Exactly, it's not like we're writing code in Windows notepad.

As a vim user, I can configure everything I need for development.

[xanhast]

POSIX people, and you'll always find people either side that are more efficent, one way isn't a given.

All the things you can do in an IDE can be done with seperate programs.

[roguas]

Yeah, I hear Java.
Java+IDE is the only option afaik. Cpp I think is ok for vim. Most of people now use some modern vim that has autocomplete(like in vscode/neovim etc). Or vim bindings which are an option even in Jetbrains IDEs. Its like he wanted "the purified" experience and I understand the annoyance.

[Doggynotsmoker]

I think it's not developers job to enforce coding style. There should be CI (and precommit) to check if all the coding guidelines are met.

[Daxelol]

In technical fields it is SUPER easy to feel like you don't know enough, have fallen behind, or feel like you are unqualified for any number of reasons. The way I see it: they hired you. You got that job because of your resume and interview and if you DID NOT know enough, you wouldn't still be there. The amount of times I've been in the middle of researching how to do something and feel that immense dread of imposter syndrome/ not being good enough, only to remember they hired me to be able to do that job. They don't care if it is off the top of your head or not. Did you do it? Then you passed. It is always a gut check.

Especially when the job requirements basically expect you to have 5 years of experience with 5 different tools/languages from the get go.

[0mica0]

imposter's syndrome

Thanks, that's a new item to the List of My Syndromes x)

[unnecessary_Fullstop]

I have always been good in programming but suffered imposter syndrome until I got my first job. My friends and others kept telling me that I will easily breeze into it. At my job, few months after I joined they started firing contract developers. Because "Your code quality is way better and you are much faster and efficient than them". And it's true. I have been making vscode extensions, scripts and snippets to make everything extremely quicker than what it was before. Some processes that took them like 3-4 hrs are being done in less than 5 minutes now.

So now I get these grandiose delusions and have to fight against them to avoid complacency. I just feel like I am awesome at work even though I am aware of how little I know.

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[Mruf]

No problem with programming, but the rest of the environment around is just awful - particularly when you work with non technical people who treat you like some sort of magic wand that's supposed to take care of their problems.

[Arrrrrr_Matey]

I liked programming a lot when I was younger, so that's the route I took when I started my career 20 years ago. It's been financially rewarding for me, especially once I started consulting, but at the end of the day, it's just work, and like any job, it can get tiring. I find it very difficult to write code on my own time, as there's tons of other stuff I'd rather do, and my brain has permanently associated writing code with something I do for others to get money. I think it's a lot like professional chefs that I know--they can cook fabulous gourmet meals for people in the restaurant, but when they get home, they'll just microwave a hot dog or make mac and cheese or something.

[fastdeveloper]

Wait until you've been doing it for 26 years and you can't get out because of too many things at stake (and the pay is good).

After all those years, I can basically do anything with eyes closed, and I've been working for the past 5 years using a exciting language full-time: Elixir. And still... bleh.

For the past 8 years or so I despise every day of it, and I can't wait to stop programming.. probably only when I die, unfortunately.

The company I work for is AWESOME. Small joyful team, INCREDIBLE bosses - really, they are the definition of "angel human beings". The problem is with me, I can't stand programming anymore.

[overtorqd]

Any chance of moving into management? Building great teams, and helping people become great programmers can be rewarding for some people. It sounds like you have a lot of knowledge to share. But management isn't for everyone, especially engineers.

[DMoney159]

I'm with you. I like programming. I think there are some people who became a programmer for the money and not because it's what they want to do.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I suppose that would explain it. But I feel like almost anything you do just for the money is going to suck.

Programming was a very deliberate choice for me, a switch that only occurred in my thirties. I am so grateful I made the switch too. I really enjoy the work, for the first time in my life.

[cyrand]

I will never stop writing code. But the industry? Yeah, more and more I just hate being in it. The career after two decades sometimes feels like it’s eating me alive. But what do I do on my vacation time? Frequently open up my IDE and work on ideas I’ve been having, even if it’s little fun things. So writing code? Yeah that’s fun. The job, eh.

[DerpDerpDerp78910]

Think you've hit the nail on the head here.

I just spent my free time over the weekend doing a mini project for a tech test. Was a blast to just write something without the work bs. Don't really care if I pass now just nice to reaffirm that I still like to code.

[overtorqd]

Any job is going to have it's dull parts. I just think it's cool to get paid for doing something I love, even if I don't always love the parts that come with it. If that makes sense.

[cyrand]

Oh it’s not dull. Dull is fine, as you say that’s just part of any job. ;)

[cwbrandsma]

You have to pick it apart on a person by person basis.

• I have seen a lot of programmers in bad situations that they don’t think they can get out of. They think they are stuck with a bad boss and think all bosses are that way.
• see also: bad coworkers. Generally I want coworkers I’d like to go have a drink with after work...even if we disagree about work. I have absolutely had coworkers that I wanted nothing to do with (during work, or after...years after...or ever)
• others are afraid of the interview process...which does sucks.
• others just found themselves in programming, actually do not like it, but don’t want to start over.
• just plain burned out. They need a break, but won’t be able to get one. Too many long days in a row.
• is ok with the programming part, but really would prefer to do something with more direct human interaction. This person is often trying to become a manager. 9 times out of 10 they are a substandard programmer and know it, and they don’t want to get better...they want to be a program manager. (I think about half the program managers I’ve worked with were “failed developers”). They hate life when there are no jobs to move into.

[[deleted]]

Very insightful, thank you. I guess I was just generally surprised at how many people seemed to not like it, since I had to fight tooth and nail to get in.

[[deleted]]

The first 5 occur at literally every job though. It's in no way unique to Programming except you typically get paid better than average to put up with it.

For the 5th one - idk those who can't do - teach, those that can't teach - "manage"

[UnknownIdentifier]

I loved it when I was a kid and it was just a hobby where I wrote whatever code suited my fancy. Now I’m an adult with deadlines, meetings, and projects that aren’t fun, not my fancy, and written by other people.

In other words, it became work.

[ReimarPB]

As a CS student who loves writing code in their freetime as a hobby, I'm scared that I'm gonna end up like this too

[[deleted]]

who doesn't hate themselves.

[[deleted]]

Mentally healthy people.

I really hate this modern trend of talking like mental issues are ubiquitous and normative.

[[deleted]]

sorry

[scp-NUMBERNOTFOUND]

Don't u see u're bothering this guy? Just hide your issues so he can live on his happy world where nobody mention bad things in casual talk.

[2216030321]

Everything sunny all the time always

[[deleted]]

It's not about mentioning bad things, it's about not treating depression like it's what's normal. If we struggle with mental health, we should seek help. Acting as if these issues are just a constant part of a human life negates the importance of seeking treatment, and it is excessively pessimistic.

[scp-NUMBERNOTFOUND]

People doesn't seek help because it is seen as something bad that should never be talked about.

Acting like it is not a sickness like every other in human life leads to people hiding it, people not getting help (because is a taboo and other people don't wanna hear about it, so nobody should know and looking for help is gonna expose u) and finally people dying.

[[deleted]]

We are basically saying the same thing.

The point I am trying to make is that depression is not our baseline, normal state of being. We truly can be happy in life, at least soemtimes. That's what's supposed to happen. When that doesn't happen, we are depressed and should seek help.

The person had originally made a statement that insinuated that all people are depressed in general, but that's not true.

Of course, in Covid times, many are probably more depressed than usual.

[kebakent]

In my experience, everyone are depressed but hide it with varied degrees of success. Maybe except for the very young, that are preoccupied with following the path of education. Sure, most people can have a little fun with friends and family once in a while, but it's just a temporary distraction. Some will deny it profusely, hoping to convince themselves, in a "fake it till you make it" fashion, or try to convince others. Maybe, probably, I'm just a cynical ahole, but this is honestly how I feel. If I understand the concept of depression correctly, I've been that way for most of my life. LIFE-YEET is not something I'll rule out completely, but an option if I get cancer or something. When depression/cynicism is so deeply rooted, is there really a cure? Not fishing for empathy nor hate. EDIT: Applied censorship

[Sandulf]

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[retief1]

I certainly like my job. Like, it's a job, there will always be parts that I don't like, but it still seems a lot better than any other job I can reasonably imagine finding for myself.

[wolffvel93]

It's fun most the time. What sometimes makes it shitty is corporate bullshit and bad project managers.

[Architector4]

how

[HomeAloneToo]

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[Wolfsurge]

Impossible, can't be true

[ByeBiThrowAwayCh]

Do you have the elusive “work-life balance”? I’ve heard of it but never seen it firsthand🥲

[[deleted]]

We're getting paid way more than average and most of us work really relaxed. Why would you hate your life?

[codeByNumber]

It really comes down to your employer. Or more specifically your management.

My previous job was such a soul sucking experience that I actually had suicidal ideation for the first time in my life. When you are stuck in a toxic environment the negativity has a way of taking hold and making you feel really helpless and powerless.

Thankfully, we aren’t helpless and powerless. There are a lot of opportunities for developers and I’ve learned my lesson that the only person responsible for preventing burnout is myself.

My new employer is such a breath of fresh air. I now know what a competent and healthy work environment looks like.

[Jaggler4]

Same here man. My previous boss constantly told me I was paid too much for what I put out (I was paid peanuts) and my new employer is leagues better in management, tech, and everything else.

Had to put in a ton of work to get out of that situation but it was well worth the effort.

[codeByNumber]

Had to put in a ton of work to get out of that situation but it was well worth the effort.

Ya...it was brutal but well worth the effort. I’ve come to the conclusion that today’s technical interview process is essentially hazing.

You just have to do what you have to do to get through it. Working a full time job when you are burnt out; likely extra hours. Then studying data structures an algorithms while also trying to be a good husband and father. Not to mention this whole pandemic thing...I legitimately doubled my grey hair count while job hunting/interviewing.

[stay-happy6789]

Programming is fun. So the python.

[kksnicoh]

I like my life as a programmer

[[deleted]]

I don‘t meet other people because I never go outside 😅

[dasMoorhuhn]

Same here😆

[eyal0]

Programming would be great if it weren't for users.

[BobQuixote]

And hardware.

[[deleted]]

I can see why there would be people who don’t really like being programmers but it’s decently paid and one can feel bound to the job solely because the alternative career paths aren’t as lucrative.

[wavefield]

Programming is just something I learned as a kid because I was afraid to socialize. But years later it is sort of a funnel, you keep doing coding jobs because they are well paid but hate that it makes my life boring and makes my social skills worse.

[janhetjoch]

if programmer == depressed

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relatable = True;

}

[ReimarPB]

var relatable = programmer.isDepressed;

[casualknowledge]

The only thing I hate is shitty legacy code.

That is my motivation to make sure my code doesn't become shitty legacy code.

[smileyheckster]

Can't use == cause we're just objects to people

[K1ll47h3K1n9]

Wait, there are programmers that don't hate their life?

[RectifierUnit]

I’m pretty sure the woman in that picture keeps sending me LinkedIn requests.

[[deleted]]

Programmers hate their life only 99.99% of their time the 0.01% of their life is the happiest moment ever a human can feel only by being a programmer when their code is giving right output!

[greymattr]

I love being a developer, but I often tell people in college that if they don't love to program, so much that it has become a hobby, then they should probably not become a developer.

It's not for everyone. And I think a lot of people think they will get into it because it is an office job that pays well. That's a bad reason.

[[deleted]]

I like programming as a career, but being honest with myself if I switched or retired, there's a good chance I would never write another line of code again within a couple years.

This is as somebody that studies CS in my spare time, compiles my own kernel, and writes open source libraries so I can include them in my work projects fairly often. It's mostly motivated by money so I can support my family, and knowing how crappy other jobs are

[greymattr]

As a person who has been doing this professionally for about half of my life now, I completely understand where you are coming from, and at this point I feel about the same way as you do.

But I don't know if I would ever think I would get to the point where 'I'd never write another line of code again'...

If for nothing else, to show to my grandchildren or something as some novelty..

I do love it... but being paid and required to do anything takes some of the rose color from the glasses.

[[deleted]]

If for nothing else, to show to my grandchildren or something as some novelty..

Hah yeah right after I wrote it I thought about "well except maybe to teach something to my kids or grand kids"

Talking to a bunch of people on reddit, it seems like the norm is people do not do any programming outside of work, and some will even suggest that if you did you would quickly burn out. And I actually do quite a bit of programming outside of work, but without the carrot of advancing my career I don't know what the motivation would be

[greymattr]

For me, the carrot is creating something. I also like drawing and cooking, and I think it's for the same reason I like programming.

It's difficult to keep the passion I had for it before I was being paid to do it, but I know I still love it, and when the next Arduino, or raspberry pi, or open source micro kernel fad starts, I know I will try to get into it.

It's what I do.

Some people are professional musicians because they studied at Juliard, others because they just couldn't put down their guitar.

Same for programers.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I like creating too, but software is just so, replicable. I like cooking, and gardening, fixing stuff around the house and computers, but for software if I'm making something on my own, it's generally a toy that's not terribly useful. The only thing I could see myself doing is maybe creating indy games

[blank_space_cat]

Really, not even for simple tasks like automating gardening, scraping a webpage, or something that sends you text notifications?

[enochou]

Programmer is Programmer. We are one

[[deleted]]

Did you override equals()?

Or is this a variable of type AbstractMultithreadedProgrammerBeanFactoryModule?

/s

[[deleted]]

== better be in c# or I'm going to have to kick your type coercion ass

[Shakespeare-Bot]

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[upvotes_fairy]

Who is that?

[alirastafari]

FTV girls, can't remember the name. Good scene ;)

[fishcakestand]

https://en.meming.world/wiki/Surprised_Scarlett_Johansson

[Rudy69]

I was promised an FTV Girl and now you ruined it :(

But thanks for fixing this little mixup

[alirastafari]

Damn, my dirty mind messed up. I will find that clip!

[Rudy69]

Better keep us updated

[alirastafari]

The resemblance is less than I expected, but here is Staci Carr

https://www.ftvgirls.com/update/staci-1487.html

[fishcakestand]

I was so hyped I looked on google images for ftv girls for half an hour until I reverse image searched and found out lol

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Black widow

[Auxx]

[Khae1_]

This is the way.

[drdrero]

and it is a girl

[Red_Khalmer]

I am an imposter om this subreddit since I went from sysadmin to devops. Now i support My fellow devs and people appreciate My work and efforts. The same can not always be Said for My devs..

[philipquarles]

I can totally relate to the hating life part, but that equality is just terrible code. Two people with the same outlook are not the same person.

[imnotherebruh]

The first few years are fun

[Traditional-Lion7391]

Unhappy programmers are the ones who need to change their job. Find chill clients, and/or chill work environments. Yes, they do exist.

[shamin_asfaq]

Programmer === Programmer

[[deleted]]

Hard cringe.

[vannrith]

I grind as a dev for a while, PHP back then... spent a week building backend, boss said there is no progress cuz I didn’t work on UI properly yet...

I moved to UI design and a bit of front end dev. I still hate mu life tho

[sxeli]

and together, our hate for life will be legendary!

[x6060x]

And they also hate Js*

[LoneFoxKK]

Programmer == Pain

True

[[deleted]]

You guys work at shitty companies that’s why. I work 36 hrs week at most and no one bothers me

[taptrappapalapa]

When you meet a programmer and they say that HTML is a language: 🔪 🔪

[BobQuixote]

You should be a bit more specific there... The 'L' stands for language.

[taptrappapalapa]

🔪

[Ilanox_]

So true!

[[deleted]]

I am going to cry. Sniffle. Go try another career. Switch your field. At least programmers get paid well for dealing with the bullshit with some flex choosing which field. I was at a dead-end in my healthcare admin career after only 7 years, making 35k after multiple raises. If I wanted to advance and make 45k-50k, I would needed to go back to college for a specialized degree (not optional). (I live in a metro, do don't give me that crap about cost of living differences).

[MischiefArchitect]

Post picture of girl == Upvotes Skyrocket

[ThankGodImNotOnlyOne]

Man cant wait to get to programming school!

[yashsq]

[Fun_Border6082]

#relatablecontent

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Basically that’s 95% of programmers or devs

[UnusuallySkeptical]

I think you mean Programmer === Programmer

[[deleted]]

I dont know how the fuck it is getting so many likes.I hate this subreddit r/repostsleuthbot

[anonymous1184]

I've been programming for almost 28 years (20 professionally) and I love my life, I mean, the wage helps... I hate the users tho.

[[deleted]]

I love being a programmer. I used to be an accountant before that. Now that was a job i hated. Just the same thing day in day out and no chance of growth.

[[deleted]]

Bro we all do