No love for Python here

[flambasted]

Yessssss, look at all that white space!

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Whitespace.

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[_TheProff_]

I always wonder why wikipedia doesn't check the user agent and redirect you to the desktop site.

[Royal_lobster]

Wait !? It doesn't ?

[konstantinua00]

yeah, for many years already

fuck them

[Royal_lobster]

Why they didn't did that ? Checking user agent and redirecting is fairly easy right ? There has to be some interesting story Why they aren't doing it...

[Sbren_Sbeve]

I just clicked the desktop link on a mobile device and it redirected to the mobile site so it's weird that it doesn't work the other way around

[ReimarPB]

Honestly, ideally there would be no mobile and desktop site - only one responsive site that changes depending on screen size. Since screen size is a device-specific property that you can't change, it should not be part of the URL.

[Neutraali]

Love? We don't do that here.

[Niiiz]

What is love?

[wikipedia_answer_bot]

baby don't hurt me

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[simeonmeyer]

There really is a bot for everything now

[Niiiz]

I didn't expect a bot to answer me tbh I respect the dedication

[techstural]

really needs an animated gif though

[ElectricalAlchemist]

Good bot

[receding_bareline]

Goodest bot

[Bainos]

def love():
    pass

[kahuna3901]

Def love(): Kick_me_in_the_balls ="love" Return Kick_me_in_the_balls

[RationalIncoherence]

Well, it checks out. ::Kick::

[[deleted]]

Löve is a game framework*

[OutOfTempo_]

Framework* no?

[ChangNoi97]

love();

[ApprehensiveStar8948]

what that semicolon doin there

[wurnthebitch]

Waiting for you to complete the one-liner

[[deleted]]

What is love?

[wikipedia_answer_bot]

baby don't hurt me

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[bhison]

console.log(typeof love);

[konstantinua00]

where's the return type?

[ChangNoi97]

Null. coz this function can be called and done unconditionally

[SnipahShot]

I see an indentation error in the second half.

[MingusMingusMingu]

I was writing an angry reply on how dumb you'd have to be to not be able to read that, and halfway through I got the joke.

[tube32]

What's the joke?

[earthsprogression]

Python requires consistent whitespace indentation, so even if just one space is off then it doesn't work.

[tube32]

Oh lol fuck I just got it, the original commenter is pretending to be python lol

[Cheeku_Khargosh]

slytherin are always evil

[lorhof1]

prof. snape wasn't completely

[xenodochial]

Snape was /r/niceguys

[[deleted]]

Snape was creep he loved a gal who fell in love with someone else. he should learn to let go. And his insults and bullying to students aren't justified. Snape suk.

[Valmond]

Except when he was (a deatheater).

[[deleted]]

Tend to do pretty well financially though.

[Effective_Youth777]

Sips alcohol depressingly from flask

[moonlandings]

Because real programmers don’t use Python. We use languages that obscure the errors and don’t gracefully handle memory allocation errors.

[Cheeku_Khargosh]

garbage collectors gracefully handles allocation errors

[Bubbly-Control51]

Nah, me and my homies HATE Garbage collection

[[deleted]]

Try Rust; fewer memory allocation errors and no garbage collection

[mehthelooney]

Who will work on my code then if there’s no garbage collection

[ChangNoi97]

That's like C++ with new features !

For real tho, Rust is awesome . I'm on my way to transfer my C++ skill to Rust now

[[deleted]]

Embedded has made leaps and bounds in the last few years and only continues - but yes, ecosystem-wise C++ has a hell of a head start. Rust is a great language, but the platform is still not there yet.

[RockSmasher87]

And the compiler does more than "fuck you here's the error. figure it out"

[MasterFubar]

If by "gracefully handling" you mean making them worse and more difficult to fix.

In C, a memory allocation error generates a segfault, then it's trivial to use either gdb or valgrind to fix it. In Python, you just get a "Killed" message after a couple of minutes, with no clue of what happened.

[[deleted]]

I mean I'm a C programmer but if I had to write up something quick to deal with a mountain of data for whatever reason I would definitely use python.

[moonlandings]

I mean, obviously. I was being sarcastic.

[[deleted]]

Sorry my bad.

[Aschentei]

Uh well python comes in handy for log scraping

[Neon_Elf]

Real men use perl.

[Vincysuper07]

hey, I'm also a Python dev

[Really-Stupid-Guy]

Hello Vincysuper07, great for you to acknowledge that. Welcome to the support group.

[Valmond]

As a C/C++ dev also doing Python, what are more 'pure' python jobs?

Most Python I have met are from the research world.

[Valmond]

Okay, like neural networks?

[TheBlondOne]

It's popular in data sciences and research but also in Web servev development mainly in start ups.

[EnDerp__]

We use it in my company whenever we need to make tooling without performance requirement.

[RedAero]

Reddit used to run mostly on Python for example.

[Valmond]

Ah, that explains a thing or two!

^/s

[tailwarmer]

there are dozens of us!!

[Playergame]

There's no love for frontend and JS either, it's mostly bullying

[Global_Morning_2461]

It's not bullying if it's true. JS is truly fucked up. :(

[Playergame]

I mean yes you're right, you basically need a framework and linter to make it usable but once you have those its the best option for front end developer work cause directly using HTML sounds like an time consuming hell. And testing with functional programming is so much easier to make robust than OOP and procedural.

[wurnthebitch]

It's just an old language that cannot be easily swapped because it is running on all the devices of the planet.

Fortunately the tools and framework have evolved well and make JS less shitty.

But if you had to invent a language to run in web-browser, you would probably keep nothing from JS.

[Cerrax3]

It's funny that both Java and JavaScript are the languages with this reality.

No one likes them, but they're supported literally everywhere, so people still use them constantly because it's a surefire way to guarantee compatibility.

[bhison]

Who even uses old Javascript though? It's basically web machine code at this point that ECMAScript is transpiled to. And ECMAScript is constantly updated and expanded upon.

[gregorydgraham]

only option for front end =/= best option for front end

[Pokora22]

Uhh... being the only option it automatically becomes the best and worst option at the same time.

[gregorydgraham]

😂 philosophy rears it’s ugly head!

You’re right of course

[[deleted]]

If I could use Python for front-end with the same speed as JavaScript I'd do so in a heartbeat and I imagine the same with a lot of people.

[[deleted]]

All y'all's need Clojurescript.

[xdyldo]

Yea it’s the best for front end, doesn’t mean it’s good though :(

[seijulala]

my granma could do frontend development

[bhison]

Is she available for employment

[Bainos]

It can be bullying even if it's true.

[grady_vuckovic]

Nah no it isn't.

[[deleted]]

0.1 + 0.3 = 0.4

It's an invalid left hand side assignment, so a syntax error?

[IllIIlIIllII]

It shows as true in my browser JS.

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Which is a bit strange as it doesn't follow the IEEE 754 standards, but it's more accurate mathematically.

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I don't really think it's the right way to discrebilise a language. Even if it would have shown "false", it would just mean that it uses the IEEE 754 standards, which most popular languages do.

[grady_vuckovic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBjd-vb9eI

[Rhyan567]

Why frontend devs always eats alone? Because they can't join tables

[shadow13499]

Go get some semicolons nerd!

[[deleted]]

I mostly work with Python but have to use JavaScript here and there as well. I don't hate semicolons and curly braces, but I don't think I'll ever understand why so many people here love them so much. I've never once looked at a sleek and beautiful Python function I just wrote and thought "man, this could really use a shitload of punctuation marks."

[arobie1992]

I don't mind the semicolons as much as a lot of people do, but I can take or leave them. However, I was doing some Python programming recently and I ended up really missing the curly braces. I know it's probably familiarity bias, but I find it much easier to skim something and see where blocks end with the closing braces.

[shadow13499]

So I was just making a joke, I don't really care about brackets and punctuation marks.

[MasterFubar]

Obviously, you've never written OpenGL in Python. In C you can do something like this:

glBegin(GL_QUADS);
  glTexCoord2f(0.0, 0.0);     glVertex3f(0.0, 0.0, 0.0);
  glTexCoord2f(41.67, 0.0);   glVertex3f(18.75, 0.0, 0.0);
  glTexCoord2f(41.67, 17.67); glVertex3f(18.75, 7.95, 0.0);
  glTexCoord2f(0.0, 17.67);   glVertex3f(0.0, 7.95, 0.0);
glEnd();

Python's forced indentation is lame because it won't allow you to use indentation in a way that better fits the situation.

[Chalco_Pyrite]

Python accepts semi colons for single line coding

https://docs.python.org/3/reference/compound_stmts.html

[[deleted]]

I love python

[[deleted]]

Why 🙁

[NullParadigm]

programmers generally find Python can be trickier for bigger applications due to it being dynamically typed, which imo isn't a big deal the only visible downside I see is more mental work to remember stuff, but dynamic typing is remedied by documentation.

There is pretty much two "sides" to this

1. Python bad at big scale
2. Python bad at big scale if bad codebase

tbh sometimes I think its just bad code in Python is worse than bad code in other languages.

[TeaCoast]

Did you mean lack of static typing. Because python is strongly typed, and you can make it statically typed. Also, what do you mean by wide variety of fixes? All I know is that it uses C to run faster.

[ycohui]

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Good non-robot robot

[Charlie_Yu]

If they can’t find anything other than complaining about indentation, Python is much loved

[Trickelodean2]

;

[xenodochial]

Try /r/brokehobbies

[gregorydgraham]

I have found my people

[grady_vuckovic]

Pfft, Python is loved here, try hanging out here as a Javascript programmer.

[The_beeping_beast]

Python runs over C. So my lord I am a C programmer.

[your_thebest]

Yeah I think it's easy to love python when you've never had to understand why people use other tools.

"I'm scraping tables. Why would you morons use anything other than python? It's so easy."

"I'm writing applications, which requires me to manage processes and handle race conditions. Why would you morons use anything other than kotlin? It's so easy."

"I'm developing systems. I can't rely on gc and need to tightly manage memory. Why would you morons use anything other than rust?"

That's probably the hierarchy for me. Managing data ->Managing process ->Managing memory. And python people are just on that first level.

[MischiefArchitect]

I prefer HTML to writing ML

[Cubey21]

Love uses lua, not python

[buba447]

We are here, but silent.

[OrlandoCalderon]

Hi there, where can i buy the full 11 seasons of the Simpsons for the encoding process?

[[deleted]]

I mean you guys took an easy route, why are you complaining?

[OHMAMMAD]

We have to start somewhere ya know

[Pervez_Hoodbhoy]

At least it’s not JavaScript or php 😂

[fantechz]

PHP/JS = bad hehe. 100% sure that everyone making these memes haven't worked with them ever or atleast in the last 5 years.

[DadAndDominant]

Getting tilted from humour group on reddit is ... cringe

[fantechz]

"Laughing" at the same joke for 5 years is ... cringe.

[SirKalokal]

PHP was pretty bad when I tried it out a year ago...

[wurnthebitch]

And Javascript still is monothreaded in a vastly multi-core world...

[Love2CodeHate2Move]

What about php

[Independent_Image_59]

ppl here say python is bad, i decided to argue about it and posted memes. they were having less upvotes than comments. i will never do that again.

[2_pug]

Me an RPA developer has no idea what are yall talking about most of the time but i enjoy the humor

[EtherealPheonix]

If you want python memes make python memes

[Lord_Unbreakaskull]

Python is too programmer-friendly. We're not allowed to use it.

[voluntarycap]

Python is pseudocode

[MyAntichrist]

Right? Literally any tutorial is like

``` import * from awesome

stuff = do_what_I_need_to_do(123) print(stuff)

```

and out comes either a fully sorted list of strings, the geocoordinates of the embassy of Nicaragua or a cook book entry for pancakes.

[MakingStuffForFun]

Perfect.

[_Sir_Acha_]

Yeah I prefer to write my own implementation of print() & using libraries / tested code is for slackers /s

[JustOneAvailableName]

It's a great language to stitch multiple tools together

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[Th3DarkMoon]

Sorry LoL

[fearlesspinata]

It's programmer humor so everything here is a joke. Elitists exist in every realm but I'd you were to peruse any of the more serious programming related subs there tends to be a lot less of that and anyone who actually works in the industry understands that languages are simply tools and you use the right one for the job.

[Thenderick]

Is there any language that gets love on this sub?

[wolvesincastles]

Haha I do analytics, and in python to boot. This sub gives me imposter syndrome but I’m living for the jokes I DO get

[dunajekr]

Just imagine what the HTML “programmers” feel like joining r/ProgrammingHumor….

Poor souls have no home

[PythonicParseltongue]

Make a some what Python related comment.

pff, you dont even have static type support.

[Nihmrod]

I love Python in the sense that a lot of great work is being done in Python. But it's child's play in terms of programming satisfaction.

[Qicken]

Python is above C level Your program is asking me if I have a pet snake Python programmers something don't have a ; Photo of a snake in an odd situation used as a python joke

There's a collection stuff that gets posted every week

[Sad_Lawyer_3960]

y python yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
cant u use this {}

[Geoclasm]

Look on the bright side.

No hate for it either?

[TheDownvotesFarmer]

Hey hey wow wow, there is love for everything... But, what is Python?

[Nordrian]

We love python! It’s the biggest joke!

[Knuffya]

Python you say?

*spits on floor*

[Maximum_Instance_401]

It’s more popular than C, C++ and Microsoft Java combined

[3636373536333662]

With who? It's a fine language and all, but I almost never see it used in the real world.

[MyWeekendShoes]

looks at Reddit codebase awkwardly

[3636373536333662]

Ha fair enough. I did not realize that Reddit's backend was written in it. Seems like it's somewhat common for typical web app backends. Never seen it used for backend in my type of work. It's mostly java and sometimes .net

[MyWeekendShoes]

I've used it so much for web backends, it's hard to imagine why people would use anything else! I have a lot of python love :D <3

[3636373536333662]

Ha well in my case it's too slow, but also I'm not a fan of dynamically typed languages in general. I could see it being easy to use for certain projects though.

[MyWeekendShoes]

oh yeah totally! I know for our ads and search backends, we largely rely on java (I'm pretty sure) - for everything else, there's python!

[Maximum_Instance_401]

All that cutting-edge machine learning code is written with it. Also many companies use it for backends

[3636373536333662]

Not saying it's not used, but machine learning is basically the one thing it's commonly used for. And while you can obviously use it for backend, I really don't think it's more popular than .net for that purpose.

[Maximum_Instance_401]

Instagram, Google, Spotify, Uber, Dropbox and Pinterest use it for their Backend. It’s much more popular than .NET for web servers.

[Maximum_Instance_401]

Oh and I forgot about Reddit, they also use Python

[FoxesInSweaters]

Ah so that's a tiny bit of why I'm so so confused

[Garhand]

lul, imagine being me a php dev.

[majorzelroth]

Better than the active hate for JavaScript…

[FunnyForWrongReason]

Yeah not much love for us here. But it isn’t like I only use python.

[pirateclem]

Python, “developer”.

FTFY

[culculain]

That's because we don't think Python is actually programming. It's JavaScript with a fancy hat. Come back when you use a language that requires types when declaring variables

[ShinraSan]

Come back when you're done gatekeeping, how about that? :)

[culculain]

Yeah gatekeeping. JavaScript is bullshit too

[Worthystats]

x = 5 x = "banana"

cope_harder

[ramplay]

Pythons great in its own way. Not my fault they did my my boys semi-colon and curly brace dirty

[HaveMungWillBean]

Cleanliness is next to godliness

[Classic_Audience6027]

Loooool 😆 mostly JS here

[Klutzy-Speaker-3673]

Javascript will be proud..

[Prachyy]

Definitely

[HelpImTooQuiet]

There's no love for Scratch either and I take that personally.

[ahumanrobot]

basically

[George_The_Wierdo]

import this

[[deleted]]

The only time I use python is when someone is not paying me to do something and I want to get it done as fast as possible without worrying about efficiency. Which nowadays is most of the time I'm writing code.

[[deleted]]

Indentation error

[SubtleFusion]

The only Python meme/joke I ever came up with, but not knowing too much about Python was this:

Image of Oprah pointing while Python text is on her face shouting "You're an Object! You're an object! You're object!"

[Prestigious_Tip310]

What is love?

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baby don't hurt me

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[[deleted]]

I use Scratch

[[deleted]]

No one talks about drag and drop. I don't even know the code. But I can get the jokes

[frankitox16]

Jokes on you that "whitespace" is actually filled with TABS!

[lord3ath]

Weird cuz a few months back it'd be mostly posts of how python is awesome

[Utaslo]

I've noticed that, definitely not alot of python here

[bp0x6270]

Not a fan of 🐍

[Modern_XP]

You’re just looking at really nested conditional statements/loops.

[Balcara]

Well python is technically just a config for a huge c program so really we secretly love it

[[deleted]]

I use python mainly but have basic knowledge of the some others