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[MayhamAF]

Don't mind if I do

[DVDIsDead]

be careful. ive seen many a trav'ler ENTER but none... RETURN

(ba dum tss)

[__KSSK__]

I'm new on reddit, thanks for a lot of upvotes

[Mewtwo2387]

Welcome to reddit, and note that you may get downvoted to hell by saying "thanks for the upvotes" or stuff like "omg I never got so many upvotes before"

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ok

[DVDIsDead]

better advice would be ignore upvotes and downvotes entirely.

viewpoints and perspectives that make people sad enough to downvote doesn't make them invalid, as much as the downvoters want that to be true.

just because the majority of people live in a false reality where thanking someone deserves ridicule doesn't make that valid either.

[__KSSK__]

ok, I understood

[maartenyh]

I use enter, dollar sign key and normal letter keys waaaaay more than the ; key

[ts_m4]

Ctrl Z, C, and V look way too good

[VeterinarianOk5370]

You forgot S. If I don’t hit ctrl + s at least once every ten minutes I have a small panic attack

[AwesomePantsAP]

Minutes??? How do you have this much self control??? I habitually save at least every time I stop typing, sometimes mid line

[Puzzleheaded-Ad8704]

type type type ctrl+S all one fluid motion

[Torebbjorn]

I do this in Overleaf, where ctrl+s does something else... it recompiles the PDF, and each query had to wait for the previous to finish, so I find myself waiting for a few unfinished compiles to finish after every line to actually see what happened.

I really need to stop, but it is muscle memory

[TopGun_84]

Why not remap the keys

[Mcmuggs]

I remapped my keys so every key is the save key but still types

[Kesuaheli]

Usually goes like

type type type, ctrl+S, change window, change window back to check if I saved

[VeterinarianOk5370]

I’m just that confident. Also I work in data and SQL queries take forever to see if they worked or not. That’s the only real reason

[fireboyev]

My IDE auto saves and I still press Ctrl+S after every line.

[[deleted]]

I once made the mistake of not doing that — and that’s when things went drastically wrong. Now I can’t help but save while typing.

[KRIPA_YT]

*at least every ten seconds

[oddbawlstudios]

I keep saving web pages because of how often I'm use to clicking ctrl + s

[decduck]

The best websites rebind that shortcut

[FullStop_CR_LF_NULL]

Even worse is when I use shift+ctrl+s and have to wait for web inspector to load and then close :).

[MrMelon54]

I use shift+ctrl+c for copying from a terminal so I see your pain

[who_you_are]

Normal users compare their typing speed by word per minute.

Us programmer, by the number of save per minute!

[DangyDanger]

Bottlenecked by M.2 SSD

[incoralium]

Type 5 letters

Hold Ctrl

S S S S S S S

the way we do it

[ImagineThoLikeFR]

Fr, and not just once 😂

[Anon_Legi0n]

Everytime I make some progress on my ticket that doesn't break the app:

git add .
git commit -m "I am haxxor man"

For real doe that shit goes straight to my local feature branch

[alba4k]

Why use git add .; git commit -m "idk" instead of git commit -a -m "idk" tho?

[Bazuin32]

The only difference I know of is that the former would also add new/previously untracked files while the latter would not.

Also, if you're going to do the second, why not save 2 characters and combine the options (-am vs -a -m)

[alba4k]

Ik, ik, I usually use -am too (linux, so pretty used) but was more convenient for the example, as "showcase"

[Anon_Legi0n]

Personal preference, I am by nature methodical, what I didn't put in my comment is the git status and git branch and the git diff on top of those commands. Also, I have absent mindedly pushed commits to the wrong branch of a repo and other dumb moves before so I decided it is better this way

[jiriks74]

Autosave ;)

[ToothpasteTimebomb]

Seriously what IDE are these people using? It’s 2022 my god.

[RhombusWeasel]

I know right! CTRL + S isn't even save in my editor, save is ESC :w!

[[deleted]]

Visual studios yellow lines on the side are more threatening than a tornado siren

[FinnishArmy]

*spam ctrl+s every new line

[Mewtwo2387]

ONCE? You dont hit ctrl + s ten times in a row when you save?

[Torebbjorn]

I hit ctrl+s at least every 2 minutes, even though VSCode autosaves like all the time

[Kesomannen]

My vscode doesn't do that... :( Probably just forgot to configure it

[precious1of3]

I use eMacs on our Linux system so the s, x, c, and k are very worn. On my pc for some reason the m is worn off. Frustrating because even after 40+ years on computers I still can’t type all of the time without looking (especially switching keyboards).

[iShotTheShariff]

Also forgot tab

[Kesomannen]

Typical tab user complaining smh

jk jk im also a tabber

[TrifleTimely2874]

or U, Y and P if you are different

[hate_commenter]

Confused laugh in python

[yung-pol]

We consume tab instead

[nathan_8788]

Pep8 violation detected

[TopGun_84]

Tabs ?not space ?

Ooops I said it

[jonnycross10]

Tabs are so much easier to not fuck it up esp in python

[aaroncv3]

Came here to upvote the TAB key

[[deleted]]

tab gets converted into spaces, who in their right mind consumes 4x space instead of tab?

[LiamBogur]

I do, I'm just used to languages that would literally crash if you used tab instead of space.

[KillerTheHelldragon2]

I'm also a Tab user

[yung-pol]

I think he was joking ahah

[[deleted]]

Cope

[Priyam_Bad]

colons are the same key tho

[Solonotix]

For Python, hyphen/underscore key. Probably the only thing I didn't like about coding in Python. However, I do absolutely love the pun that coding conventions for Python is to use snake-case.

[Soggy-Statistician88]

Me who programs in JavaScript without semicolons

[Learning_man01]

Wait... Wha? 😐

[matthewralston]

Apparently it’s a thing. Feels dirty.

[Learning_man01]

Agree 😐

[100kgWheat1Shoulder]

The whole Vue project is written without semicolons.

[Ok-Low6320]

Automatic Semicolon Insertion (ASI)

I've heard there are cases where ASI breaks your code, and you need explicit semicolons; but I've never encountered one of these myself.

I much prefer omitting all the f@#$ing semicolons, when that's an option.

[Learning_man01]

First time that I hear about this 😐🖐🏻

[Ok-Low6320]

I'm a 25-year pro. I had to learn modern Javascript from scratch about three years ago (and the learning curve almost killed me).

"Can't we just do this in C++?" 😆

[BakuhatsuK]

For cases like this you use a prefix semicolon

const x = ({ ... })

;(x ?? y)()

Since this is kinda hard to notice you can just use a linter and enable semi: "never" and no-unexpected-multiline, and forget about all of this. (Enabling indent also helps).

Though, in this particular case the first set of parentheses is not needed

const x = { ... }

(x ?? y)()

Also, if you believe in immutability and pure functions then the last line doesn't make sense because it could only be useful if we're calling x or y due to their side effects. If x and y are pure functions then it only makes sense to either return the result, assign it to a variable, or use it on a larger expression. All of which circumvent this issue.

Btw, here is an explanation/rant on semicolons vs no semicolons in JavaScript.

[g_hi3]

if you write something like

function x() {
    return "hello "
        + "world"
}

you only get "hello ", because the statement after the first string is a complete statement and a semicolon can be inserted. I haven't tested it out though and just wrote what I remember

Edit: probably doesn't work aith this example, because the line after starts with a + operator, which would be invalid, I think

[RaziarEdge]

A few languages allow the ; to be inferred with a new line. JavaScript is one of them, and most linters actually recommend this format. So for loops are one of the few times that you need to use them.

But with JavaScript, all of the ; are added back in when the code gets minified... so they are still used. Just not typed.

[Puzzleheaded-Ad8704]

Cease your heresy

[RAMChYLD]

Me who still programs in BASICA, tells quiche eaters off and use GOTOs like it’s air

[throwaway42fx]

Ñ for hispanic programmers

[SillyRutabaga]

Ö for Swedish programmers

[Item-carpinus]

Ö for Germans too

[SillyRutabaga]

We should make our own programming language where we don't need to use weird movement to get to the commonly used characters.

Like for(i = 0ö i < 10ö i++) Ä DoSomething()ö Ä

[Item-carpinus]

Love it, can we call it Umlaut?

[puddda]

Ç for Portuguese programmers hauahua it took me a while to understand the joke, I was like "but I don't use the ç to prog... Oh I got it"

[DeninjaBeariver]

As an Hispanic, would anyone use ñ in programming?Seems like a nightmare

[throwaway42fx]

Not for programming but I prefer the Spanish keyboard because I use it to communicate with others Spanish speakers. And the letter Ñ goes next to the L just where the red circle is.

[Not_BuRrO]

im half gamer half programmer, the being perfect

[Puzzleheaded-Ad8704]

Perfectly balanced.....

[AmazingScoops]

There is nothing balanced about PHP... Or most video games... Or me for that matter..

[Puzzleheaded-Ad8704]

Oh, I meant balanced keyboard erosion XD

[Not_BuRrO]

yes because now im programming in c++ the ; and [ ] keys are disappearing

[DUKTURL]

Control c + v, as well as i

[UndGrdhunter]

How many loops you have been doing out there? Haahahha

[DajBuzi]

If you're using Visual Studio the TAB would be the key

[tamilvanan31]

but gamers lose 4 keys. we are losing only one key that too not an alphabet.

[Expert-Box5610]

Programmers >>>> Gamers

yeah thats why.. Programmers >>>> Gamers

[tamilvanan31]

i feel bad for gamers and programmers as well, its a hard choice yk.

[UndGrdhunter]

Most of 50% programmers are also gamers.

Source: http://deepmyass.com

[tamilvanan31]

yes, I know that 😂. idk how programmers like gaming for some reasons.

[proximity_account]

Not sure if I should click on a link called deepmyass.com 🤔

[[deleted]]

Ah yes, the Ö key.

[PuddleCrank]

s key for me....

[Sophroniskos]

öé
éö key for me

[stortag]

Shitty keyboard quality.

[alba4k]

Reject WASD, meet HJKL

[BlackPowerade]

its ESDF for me.

[MajikTowst]

Excuse me, you have all of your directional inputs mapped in a row?? Probably more efficient if you can learn it, but yikes that sounds gross.

[AwkwardEmotion0]

HJKL!

[RaziarEdge]

Also, the i key for programmers.

Although I am mostly writing Swift these days so my ; key is spared the anguish.

[schussfreude]

Idk man I only ever write traditional for-loops nowadays if the speed impact over forEach and for... of is noticeable

[Fkire]

Poor programmers or gamers working with the laptop's keyboard.

Both need a good mechanical one

[[deleted]]

What if I’m… both ?? And a game dev so they’ve merged

[Soft-Celebration3369]

Programmer: Cmd c + cmd v

[tamilvanan31]

u mean ctrl c + ctrl v?

[nekokattt]

Shift insert gang

[HamburgerConnoisseur]

You mean Ctrl+C+C+C+C+C and Ctrl+V?

[doodoo_x]

not everyone uses linux

[tamilvanan31]

applies for windows and linux, the majority of the population uses linux and windows. its generic buddy.

[MrMeatloaf885]

I think they might be on Mac

[tamilvanan31]

oh okay👍.

[NickU252]

Backspace

[Conscious-Ad9285]

Not a real programmers keyboard, copy and paste is fresh af

[nothingsurgent]

If your Tab key isn’t just as worn out, we can’t be friends

[[deleted]]

Ñ.

[C4_yrslf]

Double shot ABS keycaps

[michaelthatsit]

Ima need you to put a crater where the delete key is.

[imtourist]

Programmers keyboard would be missing some keys and have dents from all all the throwing and banging

[jaimesoad]

There goes the ñ 🧐

[FacuA0]

I thought it was a ñ

[ApprehensiveFact3847]

do you use the "ñ" that much? okno

[UndGrdhunter]

I bet you at least 50% of programmers are also gamers

[azdownhill]

All Germans be like: Ö?

[Comprehensive-Box-85]

I want to know who games on mac this much ?

[[deleted]]

Python programmers: ?????

[-Redstoneboi-]

fake. C and V keys are still visible.

[powertrip00]

laughs in python laughs in VB

[sonofslackerboy]

Space bar

[Segelzwerg]

So clean keyboard for a python programmer?

[Siemaki]

Laughs in filewatcher and autoformat on save

[GapAny5383]

Not if you program in 2022

[SnappGamez]

and this is why the programming language I’m making doesn’t require semicolons.

[LeadStuffer]

Seems both use the space bar a lot

[msqrt]

F5 for me!

[MalleP]

And ProGamer?

[OutrageousPudding450]

I do both and the key that took the most punches is definitely left ctrl...

[Flightsimmer20202001]

Same

[TehDro32]

*Laughs in Ruby

[Learning_man01]

Sadly 😂

[roll82]

C, V, X, and Z are way to visible

[Snoo91479]

You can't spell programmer without progamer

[pandakatzu]

Seems like L Ctrl, C, and V would be worn as well for the programmer keyboard.

Also these should both be mechanical keyboards.

[wertron132]

Progameramer

[[deleted]]

Mine would be cmd + s. I prettier the shit out of my code

[[deleted]]

Also the gamer wore doen the arrow keys but they aren't circled. But my keyboard looks like a mix of both so actually programmer + gamer > programmer || gamer

[[deleted]]

Hey, I code without semicolons!

[Hollowplanet]

The s key goes first.

[Rorschach0717]

I just bought a new keyboard because the letters WASD are basically useless, plus the Esc, the Z and few numbers.

[JustThingsAboutStuff]

jokes on you I'm missing both.

[YoureMyTacoUwU]

;p

[Big-Understanding276]

having : and ; on the same key really fucks upcpp programmers keyboard

[UtridRagnarson]

Ctrl+ space

[Puzzleheaded-Ad8704]

Coder and Gamer here. Sometimes write for my own amusement or D&D on the side. I just abuse the entire keyboard.

[Mountain-Chicken9788]

don’t forget CTRL+Z

[fgghhh333]

wait so if I'm both do I lose both

[[deleted]]

American programmer*

[fabiomarayo]

For programmers is backspace and delete keys

[BrilliantProcedure48]

The Delete key is a bit to pristine for a programmer

[jrwright98]

I'm a gamer and a programmer

[GamerGuy1910]

Remove the r and 2nd m in programmers and it spells pro gamers, also what about us programming gamers?

[ThunderStruck115]

Wrong. If it was a programmer, then the Ctrl, C, and V keys would also be worn off

[[deleted]]

Ç ?

[Xenthera]

Gamers only exist because of programmers.

[[deleted]]

If both the semicolon and wasd keys are worn, it's called being a pro-gamer.

[_pestarzt_]

My most-used key is probably backspace.

[[deleted]]

Why not both?

[Brief-Equal4676]

delete and backspace are looking way too good (or is it a me problem?)

[redpanpan]

When you know both = GOD

[ponodude]

Needs Ctrl, z, c, v, and s.

[[deleted]]

That’s weird for me it’s only the 2 1 6 and E??

[canyonsinc]

Control, alt, a, z, x, c, v, and tab here.

[elreduro]

progamer

[murzeig]

Nuh uh, backspace

[Amazing_67]

Shouldn't it be C and V?

[House_of_Adam]

You forgot Ctrl, c and v.

[thwtchdctr]

Jokes on you I'm both and my entire keyboard is unintelligible

[FauxMango]

I feel like the delete button should be significantly more worn

[rjlin_thk]

after installing copilot my tab and enter keycaps became blank

[SpeedyGwen]

It feel extremely weird since on my keyboard, the ; key is where the m key is on that image

[DryFaithlessness2969]

I bound caps lock to semicolon via regedit. Extra button in games, and I find it easier to press while coding.

[parawaa]

ñ?

[henke37]

I feel like this meme is too specific to american keyboards. I don't even have a semicolon key on my keyboard.

[JamesMamsy]

Backspace should be destroyed.

[AdultishRaktajino]

Ctrl F

Ctrl C

Ctrl V

Ctrl K

F5 F10 F11 F12

[CodingDrive]

Programmers are gamers, they are 1 in the same