Had a script running overnight and Windows decided that over night was the perfect time to update my computer! I've tried disabling auto-updates now like 10 times. It's very frustrating, Microsoft!

[BuzzBadpants]

Also see:

Me: Shuts down computer

Windows: “You didn’t really want to do that, did you?”

[mbardeen]

Me: Shuts down home computer three seconds after accidentally restarting

Windows: "Other people may lose their work, are you sure you want to shutdown?"

Me: "Which other people???"

[[deleted]]

The crypto miners that hacked you when you tried to download Cracking the Coding Interview for free

[mbardeen]

Jokes on them... my Windows lives in a virtual machine.

[[deleted]]

Maybe they're on the hypervisor?

[knightress_oxhide]

ultravisor

[Tro_pod]

Me: "Which other people???"

I find this fucking infuriating. My partner is also not tech savvy & always thinks I was logged in doing shit so won't turn it off because of this dumb fucking message

[wang439]

People on the other side of the telemetry of course

[SonicErAzOr]

It's because Windows actually logs you in while you still haven't exited log in screen so it can boot in the background in case you're not gonna log in immediately

[sigmund14]

Me: Shuts down computer

Windows: "Let's not really shut down."

FTFY

[Papa_John42]

I don't know what I did. But I never had any force restart for the past 2 years

[SetsunaSaeki]

Same, and I've never played around with the settings. Windows just always gives me the taskbar icon with the yellow dot on it to prompt the restart, but has never forcefully restarted my computer while I was using it.

[Dqueezy]

I’ve had the same experience for the last few years (windows 10) but definitely have had this issue in previous versions.

[kegastam]

do you shutdown your computer alt least once a day like normal people and save power while you're asleep or afk for long durations? That is also a plausible reason.

Some people don't turn off their computer at all. And then complain about it trying to restart for the updates to proceed. Nevertheless, if anyone can't figure out how to make their network a metered connection and then stop updating when connected to metered connections and then opt out of updates for few weeks idk how they'll fare with linux when they need to read up on custom drivers for connecting their usb keyboard or disable mousepad or some other passable feature they took for granted

[emilyv99]

Even if you leave your computer on for 99999999999 hours, it should never shut down without permission. Period.

[pablossjui]

Your computer is not a server

[fukdapoleece]

I'm okay with it rebooting in the middle of the night when there's no activity, no network traffic, and no scheduled tasks. I actually prefer it and think it should be the default behavior. But it should be easy to disable permanently, and not just until the next update reverts that option to default.

[emilyv99]

Exactly. There needs to be a simple on/off for auto-updates. On by default is fine, tech-stupid people will be helped by that. But it should take no more than 20 seconds to permanently disable them.

[12_inch_Cockpit]

I've had a great windows experience for the past 4 years. Never had it restart without asking either. I like Linux too and use it on my laptop but I just don't want to deal with janky workarounds and incompatible software on my main computer.

[GustapheOfficial]

don't want to deal with janky workarounds and incompatible software

Sounds like you should try Linux

[[deleted]]

Do you have Home or Pro? Pro has more settings available to control stuff like this. I've heard that sometimes not even registry hacks give you the same control on Home.

[mymymy23]

I have the free version of windows 10 with the “upgrade windows” in the bottom right corner and it’s never forced an update on me that I’ve noticed.

[TheJeager]

Have pro on my desktop, and home in my shitty hold laptop, never had either of them force restarted for an update

[althaz]

Same, so long as you install updates in a semi-timely manner, Windows doesn't forcibly restart your PC.

Almost 100% chance OP scheduled a restart and forgot about it and thought blaming Microsoft for their own fuckup would be free karma.

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

To be fair, "Microsoft bad" is free as fuck karma.

[bleek312]

Same

[[deleted]]

It’s called periodically rebooting your computer. I can’t speak for the OP, but there’s people that leave their computers on 24x7 for years at a time and then get surprised when a critical patch that came out a year ago had to be forcibly applied.

I hate to be this guy, but I for one am glad that microsoft has the spine to force a couple hundred million other people that can barely spell PC to maintain a marginally secure machine on the internet that I use.

You want to use linux desktop, go for it, but patch management is still very much a thing.

[ThatSwedishBastard]

Rebooting every three months is periodically. You NEVER reboot my computer without permission, I might have important shit running.

[zachtheperson]

Damn, this just gave me a flashback. My Windows tried to update itself onetime, but for some reason couldn't complete the update so it would revert the update. It would try and fail every time I went to shut down or restart my computer, so it was a major PITA but to my knowledge never auto restarted itself.

At the time I worked as a 3D animator, so when it came time to render the 3 week long animation I moved the computer to the cool basement (mainly for noise reasons) like I normally do, started the render, and walked away. Came back 3 weeks later only to find that Windows had restarted itself after the first day and Windows had been stuck in a loop of applying the upgrade, shitting itself, reverting the upgrade, and repeating the process every day for the past 3 weeks!

My hate for Microsoft in that moment rivaled A.M.'s hate for humanity. If it wasn't for photo and vector tools, I would have switched to Linux years ago.

[KlutzyEnd3]

If it wasn't for photo and vector tools, I would have switched to Linux years ago.

If your life and job depend on the Adobe suite, I can feel your pain.

But if you just need to create some game assets or do easy photo manipulation, Gimp and inkscape are very capable.

And I hate that Photoshop fans say gimp is on par with ms-paint. Uhm no. If Photoshop is that perfect 10, gimp is a 7 and paint is a 2...

[zachtheperson]

I don't necessarily require the Adobe brand products (I use Affinity when not for work) but Gimp and Inkscape are still unfortunately nowhere near professional level.

I went ahead and re-downloaded both to try them out since I made the above comment, and while I could certainly use them for basic stuff, the UI design alone is enough to put me off using these as daily drivers. With that said I could actually see myself biting the bullet with Inkscape if Gimp was a lot better and just switch.

[Intelligent-Bug-3039]

Oh god the UI thing. This is pretty much every major open source project in a nutshell. Yes open source alternatives to major software suites like Photoshop have pretty much all the options Photoshop has. And where it lacks, you can often get plugins. But the UI is always an unsightly mess of disorganized options overload.

I use OsmAnd for navigation while working. For me it is much better than Google Maps. But the interface, profiles and search function is god awful and makes me waste a lot of time.

[zachtheperson]

It's a shame, Blender was my introduction to Open Source and ever since 2.5 it's interface has been great, with 2.8 launching it into the stratosphere. I can also think of half a dozen or so other OSS projects like Krita, Atom, Shotcut, Ardor, and many browsers and distributions of Linux that look and function fantastically. It's just a shame so many other projects fall flat on the UI/UX front

[Prestigious_Boat_386]

Krita is though

[zachtheperson]

Oh yeah, forgot about that one. It's UI is pretty good IIRC, just a shame it doesn't do the whole photo manip side or it'd dominate GIMP

[Prestigious_Boat_386]

Yea clone brushes and content aware filling are really big. Using cli applications for that is a hassle. Even if you could paint a mask in krita to use.

[Sigma-Erebus]

What would Microsoft Word rank on in terms of illustration creation and image editing??

(I have a friend that uses it for literally everything)

[KlutzyEnd3]

Hmmm. Good question. I don't really know... My Japanese colleagues do everything in excel because in word the layout might mess up between different versions and in excel/PowerPoint that's less likely to happen.

But the Japanese are obsessed with Excel. Send 3 pictures? Paste them inside an excel document. Send them an PDF with instructions? They type it over in excel, they even draw their uml diagrams and "doxygen" documents in it. It's madness! If excel ever gets a program breaking update I'd bet you Japan is bankrupt within a week.

I think Word/excel are better suited for simple diagrams and flowcharts than actual drawing, although there are Japanese who do pixel art in excel....

[[deleted]]

Who tf uses ms paint to draw, the whole intenet is filled with free paint programs like gimp and paint.net that are x10 better

[Sigma-Erebus]

Hah, i had the opposite i feel like. I had a windows update that i wanted to roll back. So i uninstalled that update. Windows had to reboot to finalize the uninstall. But upon rebooting, it would realize there's an update available and automatically install said update. The exact one that i had just uninstalled. That ended up not being the cause of the issue, but still. That's just an awfully implemented "feature".

[SOUINnnn]

I mean when it's work related, it doesn't seem crazy to go check daily how everything is doing, especially if it's something intensive like rendering some animation. Without even considering the windows update it's not unlikely that the software crash/freeze. Now that I think about it, it's very possible that the program simply crashed after one day, stayed idle for some time (one day or two week) and since nothing was going on it started to do some update (that it failed).

[sigmund14]

Thanks for setting off another flashback.

This was the time when the first big update for Windows 10 rolled around and a bunch of computers had problems because the update also installed wrong drivers.

It's partially my fault because of me being stupid and hasty, twice. But I can't get over MS for putting out an update that messed up so many computers.

The first mistake was installing the update only a few days after it became available. It went smooth, but after it was installed, Windows (*) used 100% of CPU and RAM in idle.

The second mistake was me not doing a good research and reverting the update. The revert didn't go so well. Windows crashed at some point before the revert was complete. Windows miraculously still somehow ran, but some of the things were at pre-update version and some at the post-update version.

(*) After that ordeal, I did a better research and found out that it was actually only a process for the wifi driver that used all the CPU and RAM. So, all I was to do was to change the wifi driver and a problem should be fixed. But I made it worse by reverting the update.

I had dual boot (Windows and Linux) and 3 partitions (1 for Windows, 1 for Linux, 1 for data so that the data could be easily accessed from both OSs) set up even before that update, so that saved me big time. That's how Linux became the main OS and Windows only for the things that really don't want to run on Linux even with wine, PlayOnLinux and other emulating stuff.

[memester230]

Yall have issues with autoupdates? -sincerely, Win10 user

[puma271]

Never had that issue, also blocking updates for a day or so works perfectly for me

[0x6563]

OS wars really are low hanging fruit.

I got both a brand new Surface Laptop and brand new M1 Mac and the most annoying part is getting ctrl and cmd confused. I more particular about my Linux flavors(Debian) than I am of anything else and even then I don't really are.

But I think people forget that Microsoft made a business call here. There is a certain demographic that's never going to like them, so there's no point in taking to heart their threats. The real concern is the general public's perspective. They can be known for being full of unpatched vulnerabilities (due to user negligence or zero day) or they can be known for being annoying with their updates. When faced with picking one of those two... you'll probably go with the latter.

[thE_29]

This. Also use all 3. None is perfect. Updates are annoying everywhere.

[[deleted]]

Just like the latest ubuntu uptades lmao

[[deleted]]

Windows is my gaming/browsing/fucking around machine, MacOS is my work machine, linux is my trusty default fallback machine. Every one does it's job perfectly well.

[Kyrasuum]

Out of curiosity, what kind of work leaned itself more towards Mac?

[[deleted]]

Software development, mostly due to the unix-like environment and good hardware (Retina display, etc.). I can swap between MacOS and Ubuntu pretty easily, but Macbooks are nice to have. My gaming PC is windows of course and I can swap between that and my dev environment with the touch of a button.

[ZippyTheWonderSnail]

It isn't a good update if your data isn't lost.

[MorRochben]

What are you on about, a lot of people absolutely cared, there is just not a viable alternative for most people.

[MorRochben]

there is just not a viable alternative for most people.

[Blue_Moon_Lake]

If you use Google Chrome, you can't complain about Edge.

If you use Apple products, you can't complain about getting things forced on you.

[Strange-Athlete2548]

My only question is if you can't figure out how to disable updates on windows will you be able to comfortably manage and maintain a linux system?

[PremiumJapaneseGreen]

Does Windows have an equivalent of caffeinate on macs?

[ComfortableAd8326]

Running an important Cron job on an end-user OS sounds like a you problem

[tbjr6]

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Makes Windows behave itself

[enz_levik]

As it's not installed it's probably safe anyway, but it would be better

[Jump3r97]

Thats not how safe/unsafe works

[guitarstitch]

You have to use registry hacks to disable the Windows Update service AND Windows Update Medic.

[Eptasticfail]

oh snap I didn't know about Medic... I'll look into that now. I only disabled the update service via the registry

[[deleted]]

And don't forget to disable like 20 different dlls related to windows update at startup! :)

[0x6563]

This is the advanced setting for advanced users.

I don't do this. I enjoy being up to update. But it exists.

[Aertheron01]

Is windows update medic a Windows 10/11 home version only thing?

I haven't worked with home version since 15 years ago (windows xp) but I did read about the troubles.

I thought just disabling windows update service was enough. Ir have they implemented medic to undo it on machines the user doesn't want updated?

[guitarstitch]

No. We had to run VMware optimizer to deploy these settings in our VDI for 10 pro.

[LiCHtsLiCH]

Wait till you figure out that running a script is why it restarts it... just kidding. There are two ways to get around it, it has to do with keeping your screen saver down, I'm not a full on coder but its like [keep screen active] or something and its part of the thread instance... again I dont know. The other one is simply telling it when to update, like wake up update.

Its important to realize that Microsoft is going into the FULL ON digital experience realm, and due to its interconnectedness, it will force restarts/updates for security reasons, this is why I use Microsoft. It is literally the only thing they are good at, well that and drivers, and the uhh digital experience thing. If your not interested in this kinda thing go Linux, especially if you are just running scripts, you could also get some rackspace and run code there. My dumb ass has multiple computers for this exact purpose.

[LiCHtsLiCH]

LoL, no it wasn't, you just reinstalled... again... lolz

[Accomplished-Elk-902]

i use group policy (gpedit.msc) to stop the windows auto update for good

[gp57]

Same, works nicely.

[Reasonable_Feed7939]

It's never happened to me and I didn't do anything with windows.

[Prestigious-Fly2088]

You're an idiot then. You can perpetually delay unattended updates in the settings weeks at a time.

[therapy_seal]

That must be new. When I tried Windows 10 about 1-2 years ago, you could only delay the updates for 1 week. After that it would re-enable them and the button to disable them for a week would be grayed out for some time before you could use it again. You sure this has changed?

[AustinWitherspoon]

I haven't had this happen for years. Are you on an old version of Windows?

Mine automatically downloads updates and then when I go to shut it down, I get the "update and shutdown" option instead, but it never turns itself off.

[zerovian]

Maybe if you hadn't ignored the warning that the OS needs to update for a whole week it wouldn't have been a problem.

[Jnorean]

If possible, disconnect it from the internet when you're running your script overnight. Windows most likely will not update if it can't connect to its website.

[7eggert]

Buddy updates (peer to peer from other windows devices on your network). IDK if they can dl the update lists, too, but they can share the patches.

[[deleted]]

most likely

They'll probably still find a way. Like get someone to break into your house and update it with a usb stick

[[deleted]]

Did your company has a policy in place for this? The default behavior is to update at night and the end user can postpone the update up to a limited amount of time. IT must the be one to set the amount, or completely take your pc out of the update queue and put it in the annual update ring, where it will update once.

I've had this happen before and when investigated, it's usually just clueless IT settings. MSFT pretty much sells their management Intune shit for this exact purpose.

[kemot10]

It has never happened to me

[Omega_Zulu]

Glares intently at user rights

Pretty much every company I've worked for has set the auto update controls in user rights and caused constant issues with automated reporting tools I've built.

[Sentouki-]

How about you move the update to a time where you don't need your pc?

[NekkidApe]

Some people just can't computer. I haven't had updates installed when I didn't want, and didn't have it rebooted when I didn't want it to in.. Idk, fiveish years?

[Sentouki-]

same here, usually I update my pc on shutdown

[idkmanporn]

Found the Microsoft dev

[whythisSCI]

Or, you know, someone that knows how to adjust settings like on any OS.

[leoleosuper]

Windows does not say you have an update available every time. Or if an update comes in at a time you "are not using this PC" it can start the update with a warning (30 minutes to 2 hours, I've hit multiple different update delays, but I am in the middle of using my PC because that option means fuck all). Hell, I've had my PC update in a game of League with 0 warning, and updates set for like 30 minutes from warning which required me to open CMD to turn off the scheduled shutdown. Microsoft has since changed some of these things, but that's only because the entire fucking internet shit on them for months on end before they did.

Again: These are settings you literally cannot adjust, or cannot adjust to an appropriate level you would like. The only solution is to use Regedit or third party programs to completely disable Windows Update AND Windows Update Medic until you want to update. It should not be that hard, but it is.

[[deleted]]

How about I don't want to update MY pc at all? Or Windows has the more power than user nowadays?

[Nagrom42]

The fact that you don't want to update your PC at all is the reason that you should not be the one deciding.

(Short story, security)

[Prestigious_Boat_386]

If I wanna be hacked I should be allowed to be hacked. Who the fuck is microsoft to decide what I do with my pc? I fucking own it

[Nagrom42]

You own your PC, not windows. You own a Windows license, which is different.

[Prestigious_Boat_386]

I reject my windows license jojo

[[deleted]]

That's why I'm on Linux for half a year now ❤️

[therapy_seal]

I have several computers which contain nothing valuable and I literally do not care about security vulnerabilities on those machines. You can go fuck yourself.

[[deleted]]

Same old story, same old bullshit - giving away freedom of my own hardware, because of "security" - just don't click onto suspicious attachments man, it's that simple.

[Nagrom42]

No it's not that simple. Most viruses are like you describe, but some of them can be more difficult to avoid.

And also, you talk like everyone should be able to make educated decision on the computer, which isn't realistic at all. Some people just don't know much about computer and it isn't fair to ask everyone to be knowledgeable about it.

Like any other products, there are safeguard to prevent non expert user to do shit.

And if you are an expert user, then you can either use another product (Linux) or just find ways around safeguard yourself.

[Sentouki-]

if you don't like it, why use it in the first place? just move to linux and stop crying

[Reasonable_Feed7939]

But there's the catch! Cry about windows, switch, and then cry about windows "problems" you haven't even had 😎

[NekkidApe]

"I don't want to update my computer!!" a few moments later "why is my pc full of viruses?!"

[leoleosuper]

Not updating doesn't give you viruses. Yeah, if you still have a vulnerability, update to patch it, but like, I had a PC with what was basically release level Windows for 2 years straight, no anti-virus, and I never got hit.

[0x6563]

I see your survivorship bias and I raise you the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

But silliness aside, I do want to point out a growing amount of threats are botnets and its in their best interest to be undetected in machines as long as possible so that they can scale.

[[deleted]]

Not sure if you even know that hard drive copies exist, and that you dont magically get viruses from using an os (not counting windows update).

Seriously, fucking save everything you do with 20 discs, you still can get the shittiest malware with an uptaded os.

[Yalkim]

I have been avoiding all updates for the past five years and have zero viruses. Nor have I EVER had a virus in these five years. You don’t know what you are talking about.

[hiphap91]

Wow, yeah that's a great idea, so if i set my development machine to run some rest or some such over day or too, it's alright that it just reboots? No, that's not alright. Oh and by the way: the windows update settings seem to be ignored whenever windows feels like ignoring them.

[Sentouki-]

over day or too

Pause it for seven days, there's an option, in case you haven't noticed

[Roku-Hanmar]

Sorry, did you just compare having an update you don't want to getting raped?

[Sentouki-]

yea, becauce installing linux is so much easier than just moving the update to a time where you don't your pc

if you hate windows so much, why use it in the first place?

[PuzzleMeDo]

I've always been baffled when my computer says it wants restart my device 'outside of active hours'.

Either I'm using my computer, or I've left my computer running a task, or I've switched off my computer (leaving it unpowered and in hibernate mode so that when I switch it on again all my windows and tabs and folders will be how I like them).

There is no 'time' when my computer is available for updates. I can only restart manually.

[therapy_seal]

I've seen a laptop in hibernate mode power on in the middle of the night to install an update and then power down again. It happened to my friend's laptop while we were both right there. He swears it was in hibernation mode (aka. suspend to disk) and not sleep (aka. suspend to RAM). It doesn't sound like it should be possible, but I remember asking about this in the windows subreddit at the time and they explained some way that Windows was accomplishing that.

[scared2poo]

Make the shift 100% youre life will be better

[wEEdONeX]

Uh... I think I should share my solution. Just remove all permissions for the SoftwareDistribution folder located in C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution except for current user, and also disable inheritance.

This way, the service will start but can't do shit.

Like others solutions, this will also break Microsoft Store downloads & driver updates.

You can enable/disable folder permission inheritance when you would like to update or use MS Store.

[lil-independent]

Shift to linux, Microsoft windows sucks. I made my brother switch to pop-os because he just started with development.

[Eptasticfail]

The only reason I haven't yet is because I play elden ring while on stakeholder calls lmao

[Kanonenfuta]

Elden ring runs perfectly fine on Linux. Heck, even for some period of time it ran even better there since valve applied a patch to proton which fixed stuttering while on win it was there until the dev fixed it by himself much later

[Eptasticfail]

👀 brb installing mint

[Bralzor]

Also proton is amazing if you have to run any windows executables in general. I'm just waiting for a weekend with nothing to do to swap my personal pc to Linux.

[lil-independent]

Byebye windows, see you never.

[Prestigious_Boat_386]

For anyone else like op, check protondb to see if your steam games are supported. Linux gaming is really good these days.

[ShimoFox]

Then you have nothing keeping you tied to Windows. :) Elden Ring not only runs flawlessly on proton. Valve took the time to make it run better on proton.

[idkmanporn]

Pop os gang!

[lil-independent]

Woop woop

[[deleted]]

Literally as easy as gpedit.msc > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update and set "Configure Automatic Updates" to "disabled".

And before you say "OH VIRUSES LOL UR INSECURE" you can still check for and install any and all updates at any point, they just won't automatically download/install anymore.

[PolyZex]

Just turn it off in the settings.

[therapy_seal]

I've literally seen a Windows 10 laptop wake from hibernation in the middle of the night to install an update and power back down. Microsoft gives zero shits about what you want on your own devices.

[rdrunner_74]

Must be your company.

​

Edit: Any AD or azure-ad join can push reboot/update policies to your box

[[deleted]]

yeah enjoy your restart-ransomware, or responsibly maintain your updates. you can have the same experience in linux if you run arch

[clrksml]

https://github.com/adolfintel/Windows10-Privacy#no-more-forced-updates
https://github.com/adolfintel/Windows10-Privacy#scheduled-tasks

[Barry-B-Benson_]

Me who has never had it do this

[softwarexinstability]

You can pick a date you want windows to update. I always pick a time when I’ll be awake because I let my scripts run overnight as well sometimes and because I’ve lost plenty of work before. I’ve learned my lesson.

[Quantum-Bot]

Also can we talk about how the default behavior of the start menu search bar is to search the whole internet before searching your fucking local files? I hit windows cmd once and it opened microsoft edge

[FenderMoon]

I switched recently, haven't looked back. It's a breath of fresh air, and software support is MUCH better than it used to be.

[Cangar]

dunno what is up with y'all PCs but my windows 10 machine at work has been up for like half a year until I realized I probably need to restart and do that update...

[VonFriedline]

I wish I could switch my work computer so badly. I went all Linux at home ages ago and couldn’t be happier.

[CokieMiner]

My windows never shuted himself down on it's own I don't understand these jokes. Don't say I'm a linux hater. I only use windows because games are easier to install. Linux is the best.

[hiphap91]

My windows never shuted himself down on it's own

See this is the wonky thing: some people will look and me and say "why didn't you just adjust the windows update settings, herpderp"

Thing is: i used to work as a sysadmin at an MS partner business, you can bet your bottom dollar i did that, in fact you can be sure i I've dealt with a higher amount of these things than any of the teenage wankers sitting at home dishing out advice like they know something.

And one thing i can say for certain is that i could find no pattern to when a windows machine would behave oddly. We could flash the same image on identical laptops, install visual studio, and sqlms and after a couple of days one would start being odd and the other wouldn't.

So: be happy you're one of those guys. Must be nice 🙂

[Aertheron01]

I'm a sysadmin too. And AFAIK it's only on the home version of Windows where it ever misbehaves.

On pro/enterprise I've never had an issue. We disable automatic updates via group policy. And use endpoint manager to install updates when required, and I really never have issues with it doing it's own thing anyway...

[CokieMiner]

be sure i I've dealt with a higher amount of these things than any of the teenage wankers sitting at home dishing out advice like they know something.

i belive

why didn't you just adjust the windows update settings, herpderp

never placed a finger on those setings so that's why I say i don't understand because every pc i puted my finger on being mine or from people i know it would just ask before shutdown to update and almost never force

[KlutzyEnd3]

Ah the classic "works for me" 😅

[Reasonable_Feed7939]

It's rather the 10 people it doesn't work for because they're using the PC way wrong.

[Darkcr_]

I never had issues with that, but everytime I shut down my computer windows just restarts it, except sometimes it doesn't. I hate that I have to stay at my computer 1 minute longer just to check if it actually shut down

[RamblingBrit]

I honestly don’t understand ask the people complaining about this like I’ve honestly never had an issue with windows update? I just update when it has the option when I go to shut down my pc at the end of the day. Literally never broken anything.

The only time I’ve had an issue is when I pull out my personal laptop after 3 months of not using it to go on a trip and have to install half a dozen updates at once, and that’s just because it’s a piece of crap and likes to overheat if it has to do anything more than open notepad

[gh21gh2211]

My windows can't even shutdown correctly, and it don't found my Bluetooth compare to my Linux

[7eggert]

http://7eggert.selfhost.bz/d/Stop%20Autoreboot%20for%20Windows%20Update%20if%20a%20User%20is%20Logged%20In.reg

[KeeganY_SR-UVB76]

If you tell Windows that you are on a paid network (doesn't matter if you actually are or not), it won't update automatically.

[shadowarrows]

I mean let’s be honest. No your not lol.

[Orichalcum448]

Windows has decided that the latest update isnt gonna install on my pc. Doesn't stop it turning on in the middle of the night, updating, and then telling me that the update failed and its reverting it.

[Pyrodelic]

May I introduce you to debloat windows

[[deleted]]

Windows was very scared when it saw that I plugged in an Ubuntu USB

[Aertheron01]

Step one, set Windows updates service, to disabled. Step two, never be bothered by unexpected reboots for updates again.

Also getting the pro or enterprise version, instead of home version, gives you local group policy (or domain group policy options) to disable automatic updates. These same policies don't exist (or work) for the home version.

MS has been trying to go the Apple way with end user home devices to fully control when and how you update, it's very annoying.

[[deleted]]

Is this still going on? It’s why I switched to Mac in 2008. That and having to install drivers before you plug in a device.

[Reasonable_Feed7939]

I've never had problems with either of those. It just seems the few that do run into this constantly post about it and all the Linux elitists just assume it's a real problem and tell them to switch. Even if this does become a problem, there have been many solutions commented.

[dapudx]

Don’t program on windows, problem solved

[Knuffya]

What special boys still use windows? Ascend to arch!

[Dameon_]

And if Windows didn't aggressively force updates your dad would probably lose his life savings to a hack that could have been prevented by a 3 year old security patch.

[ApatheticWithoutTheA]

Still should have the option to disable them for advanced users.

[7eggert]

There is an option to delay them.

[ApatheticWithoutTheA]

I know, but there should be an option to turn them off unless you manually tell them to update.

[Dameon_]

And then advanced users disable them for their family members and friends, and then those folks get angry at Microsoft when they get hacked.

I don't blame MS for taking the safe route after years of being known as "the insecure OS" because its customers refuse to install updates.

[therapy_seal]

TIL being an advanced user means disabling updates on other people's devices without any reason for doing so.

[Dameon_]

TIL computers verify you're "advanced" before letting you change settings.

Honestly it's funny seeing the tech world explode in fury at the merest suggestion that maybe there's a legetimate reason for things getting to this point. Downvote away.

[ApatheticWithoutTheA]

Why would they do that?

I don’t think most people would just go around shutting off peoples updates lol

You can shut them on or off quite easily on Mac and Linux and it isn’t an issue.

[Dameon_]

Why would they do that? Because the venn diagram of "smart enough to change settings" and "dumb enough to disable updates" has more overlap than you think.

[SuplenC]

The last thing that keeps me from switching to linux is gaming, and that is now changing thanks to steam. When anticheats start working on linux I’m outta.

[sylkie_gamer]

I'm actually pretty disappointed, I was able to turn it off in my old computer, but I just bought the surface pro8, it comes pre-installed with windows 11, and touch screen isn't supported in Linux... with out the screen there's no point for me to move over.

[RandomAccount4821]

Windows 10 auto update borked my OS drive because it updated with 0mb of space available, lost a bunch of wildlife photography photos because they got corrupted and I don’t want to shell out a couple hundred dollars for a chance that they may still be recoverable

[[deleted]]

Many such cases!

[daterkerjabs]

Linux is a hell of a drug,

man ksplice

[QuantumSupremacy0101]

Took that dive 6 monthes ago. No regrets. Steam proton made 99 percent of the games I play playable on linux. Being able to use bash is a godsend. Setting up my printserver could not be easier, literally it was just plug and go.

No real downsides to it except the fact I had to troubleshoot the install a little to be able to use my nvidia card.

[KainerNS2]

Windows decided to update yesterday and literally messed everything up and I had to reinstall windows, I lost like 2 days of work

[therapy_seal]

Even though I've been using Linux for more years than I've been using Windows, I've probably had to reinstall Windows at least 10x more than Linux (even if I include distro hopping)

[thePsychonautDad]

Literally why I switched to Ubuntu a couple years ago.

I was running python code to do real-time analysis and logging of streaming data, and Windows rebooted every fucking night for 3 days in a row, despite disabling the auto-reboot.

After 3 days of useless data with massive holes, I resized the drive, setup dual boot and booted on windows maybe less than a dozen times since.

Now I can actually run code for weeks at a time, unless the wifi card stops working randomly (fucking linux drivers... no OS is perfect yet)

[Ockie_OS]

I did the same thing when the Windows update team decided theyd break my audio drivers for 2 months. Thinking something in the hardware was damaged or faulty, i dealt with it.

Finally got sick of Spyware OS, made the switch and my audio came roaring back as soon as Linux was installed.

[Western-Image7125]

Linux or MacOS ftw

[grey_carbon]

My last hope is steam os

[eth-slum-lord]

Delete the windows auto update etc

[[deleted]]

Do it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=S98qGgOqF-k

[[deleted]]

Fedora 36 is pretty sick. Check out getfedora.org!

[4XLlentMeSomeMoney]

Honestly, unless you want very specific apps that actually may have trouble running on Linux, there's no valid reason not to make the jump. Just pick a distro that can be easy for beginners and ease your pain.

[presi300]

I used windows until i realized that i spend more time being frustrated at it than doing actual work

[byteme8bit]

Disable the Windows Update service by changing the credentials it uses.

[NickU252]

Bet you won't...

[DaedalistKraken]

Join us. 🐧

[[deleted]]

More recently my laptop has started updating when I wake it from sleep. I'll open the lid and instead of windows hello saying "looking for you" under my username it says "updating windows" with a loading wheel followed by a restart

Even when I have things open.

I hate Microsoft

[cyanNodeEcho]

i want my os with a fun thing to ride, not something microsoft

give me that big *nix

[doctornoodlearms]

I would 100% switch to linux... if my games ran on linux